Does anyone know if there are species of rattan that will grow in alpine or
semi-arid climates like Denver Colorado? I heard some bamboo does but am not
sure about rattan.

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Does anyone know if there are species of rattan that will grow in
alpine or semi-arid climates like Denver Colorado? I heard some bamboo
does but am not sure about rattan.


rattan... plants of the genera Calamus, Daemonorops, and Korthalsia
climbing palms of tropical Asia, belonging to the family Palmae (palm
family). Rattan leaves, unlike ...
www.slider.com/enc/44000/rattan.htm

Backward-pointing emergences of an Australian rattanThe backward-pointing
hooks (emergences) on this species of rattan (Family Arecaceae) from
Queensland, Australia, are useful for this climbing palm to grapple ...
www.botgard.ucla.edu/html/botanytextbooks/
lifeforms/climbingplants/a0657tx.html

RAINFOREST GIFTS Rattan: a climbing palm... palms are found in South
America, all the 600 species of rattan are found ... Rattans belong to
the family Calamoideae, which also includes the important sago palm ...
www.szgdocent.org/ff/f-rattan.htm -

The Making of the ASEAN's 100 Most Precious Plant
.... The remaining Rattan genera, Daemonorops , Ceratolobus , Korthalsia ,
Plectocomia
, Plectocomiopsis , Myrialepis , Calospatha , Pogonotium and Retispatha
are ...
http://www.arcbc.org/arcbcweb/climbi...ms/default.htm -

https://www.vedamsbooks.com/no8877.htm
Palms of British India and Ceylon/Ethelbert Blatter, S.I. Reprint. 1994,
600 p., plates, 49 figures
III. Lepidocaryinae: 4. Mauritieae. 5. Metroxyleae: Sub-tribe: 1.
Raphieae: Raphia. 2. Calameae: Metroxylon, Zalacca, Korthalsia,
Plectocomia, Plectocomiopsis, Calamus, Daemonorops

http://www.xs4all.nl/~pilinut/bamboo_and_rattan.htm
Rattan is a climbing palm with numerous thorns or spines, hairs and
brittle scattered all over the plant. Some rattans have cirrus, leaves
with an extension of the midrib. Others have the flagellum which is also
whip-like, that arises from the axil of the leaf sheath. The cirri and
flagella enable the palm to climb adjacent tress for support. Rattans are
found from near sea level up to more than 2,000 m. They usually grow at
low to medium elevations in virgin and second-growth forests but never in
the open fields. The most widely distributed species specially in the
Philippines is ditaan (Daemonorops mollis), tandulang (Calamus usitatus)
and palasan.

Rattan is widely used in the furniture industry. The Philippines is the
second largest exporter of rattan furniture in the world, nest only to
Italy. In 1990, the country supplied 13% of the total world demand for
rattan and bamboo furniture.


http://www.inbar.int/images/species/rattan.jpg
nepal, unknown elevation

and inland (westward) southern china unknown elevation

east coast up to Kowloon/Hong Kong.
http://www.worldinformation.com/Worl...e.asp?country=
852
Hong Kong is subtropical and monsoonal. Summer (from May to mid-
September) is hot and humid with a risk of typhoons. July and August can
be very hot. Autumn (September to December) is generally sunny, but
drier, and the most pleasant time of year. Winter (December to February)
is dry, but can get uncomfortably cold, with an average temperature of 15
degrees Celsius (C).
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15 degrees Celsius is nowhere near as low as:

http://www.cityrating.com/citytemper...sp?City=Denver
Average Temperature by Month (ºF) 29.7 [approx -1 C]

http://www.inbar.int/publication/txt...eport_No15.htm
3.0 Eastern Himalaya

Botanically, this part of Himalaya is one of the richest of all the
varied vegetation. The forests have species typical of tropical wet
evergreen, semi-evergreen, tropical moist deciduous, dry/moist/
deciduous/mixed temperate, sub-alpine and alpine types. The area is
drained by mostly north to south flowing rivers viz. Tista, Brahmaputra
and the tributaries of the latter. For distribution and density of
bamboos in Eastern and N.E. India, humidity or precipitation is one of
the main factors governing the enormous genetic diversity, growth and
distribution of bamboo brakes in N.E. India, and also the development of
complex and varied ecosystems. The present climax condition of different
ecosystems of the region support the fragile ecological balance which is
upset by various biotic factors.

Tropical forests comprise moist and dry deciduous, evergreen and semi-
evergreen type of vegetation. These types may be categorized into sub-
Himalayan tropical, semi-evergreen, eastern Himalayan sal forests and
moist mixed deciduous forest types. The main bamboos in this bioclimatic
zone are Dendrocalamus bamiltonii, Bambtrsa balcooa, B. tulda, B.
pallida, Melocanna baccifera and Scbizostacbyum dullooa. It is observed
that where a great deal of the area has been affected by shifting
cultivation it has degenerated into bamboo brakes with species of
Melocanna, Bambusa balcooa, Scbizostacbyum polymorphum and S. dullooa.

The semi-evergreen and evergreen forests contain the species of Amoora,
Canarium, Castanopsis, Chukrasia,Cinnamomum,Dysoxylum, Micbelia,
Dipterocalpus, Garcinia, Sborea assamica, Lagerstroemia speciosa,
orchids, palms etc. The open areas in this type of forest particularly in
precipitous and swampy situations provide perfect habitats for several
rattans (Calamus tenuis, C. leptospadix etc.), Salix tetrasperma,
Biscbofia javanica, Trewia nudiflora and Barringtonia species.

The montane sub-tropical forests experience 1,2002,500 mm of rainfall.
Broadly, the forests fall under sub-tropical broad-leaved hill forests of
Sikkim, North Bengal and Arunachal Pradesh. The dominant tree species are
Engelhardtia, Quercus, Castanopsis and Betula. Among the NTFPs yielding
species of this type are Terminalia, Emblica (Amla), Elaeocalpus,
bamboos, rattans and medicinal plants (Rauuolfia selpentina, Dioscorea
spp., Costus spp. etc.). Among the bamboos,
Dendrocalamushookeri,D.sikkimensis,Chimonobambusas pp. Scbizostachyum
dullooa, S. poymorphum, S. capitata, S. juschianum, S. griffithii,
Thmnocalamus spp. and Phyllostachys species are common. Rattans are
represented by Calamus acanthospathus, C. erectus, C. flagellum, C.
floribundus, C. latifolius and C. leptospadix.

Temperate forests range between the elevations of 1,700 and 3,000 m.
These forests may be further classified into Lauraceous, high level Oak-
Hemlock (Tsuga),Coniferous and Birch-Rhododendron forests.Darjeeling
montane temperate forests of N. Bengal Himalaya enjoy rainfall of ca
3,000mm.Oak forests, laurel forests, Oak-Hemlock forest, TsugaAbies and
AbiesRhododendron associations are represented by the species of
Lauraceae (Persea, Litsaea), Betula utilis, Querczds lamellosa, Q.
lineata, Alnus nepalensis, Acer spp., Magnoliaceae (Magnolia, Michelia,
Talauma), Castanopsis spp. and Rhododendron spp. Coniferous forests with
potential of gumresin are represented by Pinus wallichiana, Pinus kesiya
(cultivated), Abies pindrou,A. densa, Junipers, Larix griffithiana and
Picea spp.Among the bamboos common species belong to Arundinaria,
Chimonobambusa, Thamnocalamus and Semiarundinaria. Absence of rattans is
quite conspicuous. Ecological degradation in this part is due to heavy
lopping for fodder, sliding snow on steep to precipitous slopes and other
biotic factors.

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4.0 N.E. India

N.E. India covering Himalayan flanks can be referred to as a centre of
genetic diversity for the genus Calamus (25 spp.), Arundinaria sensu
stricto (5 spp.), Bambusa (25 spp.), Dinochloa (5 spp.), Dendrocalamus
(12 spp.), Scbizostachyum (11 spp.) and Drepanostachyum (7 spp.).
Traditionally old cultivation of several bamboos such as Bambusa
vulgaris, B. wamin, B. balcooa,
Dendrocalamusbookerivar.parishii,D.sikkimensis, Pseudoxytenantbera spp.
and Oxytenanthera spp. are cultivated in this region. In several parts of
N.E. and N.W. India seems to have reduced the flowering incidence.
Studies being carried out reveal morphological infraspecific variants can
be distinguished with regards to the branching patterns, culm-sheath,
rhizome and young shoots.

The potential resource of Himalayan rattans has been depleted due to
indiscriminate extraction of immature canes, destruction of their natural
habitats and insufficient knowledge on the biology and phenology of
species. Since the genetic diversity of rattans has not been measured
thoroughly. Calamus acanthospathus, C. inermi s C. latifolius occur in E.
Himalaya as an admixture, and systematic taxonomic and genetic evaluation
are needed.

In the N.E., most of the Calamus species occur between 1,000 and 200 m.
Daemororop and Pletocornia species are represented also. Most of the
rattan gene pool is under severe threat due to intense environmental
interference.

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It looks doubtful that Colorado is anywhere close to warm enough in
winter.


Searches done:

Rattan Climate
Rattan Temperate
Nepal rattan elevation
Rattan "Minimum Temperature" |"Minimum Temperatures"

Searches didn't try:
Rattan "Frost Tolerance"
Rattan "Cold Tolerance"

didn't try above with:
Calameae: , , , , , ,
Metroxylon Sago
Zalacca photo, looks regular tree palm
Korthalsia
Plectocomia Himalaya Rattan Palm ,,,,
Plectocomiopsis
Calamus
Daemonorops


you could repeat the same search terms with each genus name:
Climate
Temperate
"Minimum Temperature" |"Minimum Temperatures"
"Frost Tolerance"
"Cold Tolerance"

also
"Climbing Palms" | "Climbing Palm"
"Vine Palms"

now I'm curious if any 'subtropical' rattans are decently rattan-like and
might grow in central California.

Rattan California
Calameae California
Korthalsia California
Plectocomia California maybe
http://www.angelfire.com/bc/eucalypt...almphotos.html
Plectocomia himalayana seedling in a private garden in Olympia, WA
[unprotected?]

Plectocomiopsis California
Calamus California -Acorus rattan | palm maybe, this is
interesting
http://www.google.com/search?q=Calam...corus+rattan+%
7C+palm+&hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1



DaemonoropsCalifornia



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MMPND- Sorting Palm names - English index - part2... Rattan palm -
Calamus spp. Rattan palm - Daemonorops spp. ... Sainte-Luce palm -
Dypsis saintelucei Beentje. Salak palm - Salacca zalacca (Gaertn.) Voss.
....
gmr.landfood.unimelb.edu.au/Plantnames/
Sorting/Palms_English_index_part2.html - 73k - Cached - Similar pages


MMPND - Sorting Calamus names... Salacca zalacca (Gaertn.) Voss;
Calamus zollingeri Becc. Calamus albus Pers. ... ENGLISH : Bluish-grey
rattan palm, Golden cane rattan, Rattan palm. ...
gmr.landfood.unimelb.edu.au/Plantnames/ Sorting/Calamus.html

Checklist of Climbing Palms in Southeast Asia
.... Daemonorops virescens, PHL. Korthalsia scaphigera, Cane durable but
of poor appearance.
IDN, MYS, SGP, THA. Korthalsia angustifolia Blume, BRN, IDN, MYS. ...
www.arcbc.org/arcbcweb/climbing_palms/ climbing_palmspage7.htm

Checklist of Climbing Palms in Southeast Asia
.... Plectocomia sumatrana Miq. IDN. Plectocomiopsis corneri Furtado, none
known,
IDN, MYS. ... BRN, IDN, LAO, MYS, THA , VNM. Plectocomiopsis mira J.
Dransf. ...
www.arcbc.org/arcbcweb/climbing_palms/ climbing_palmspage7.htm

Checklist of Climbing Palms in Southeast Asia
.... BRN, IDN, MYS, SGP, THA. Daemonorops acamptostachys Becc. Fishing
baskets
from petiole skin. IDN, MYS. Daemonorops acanthobola Becc. IDN, MYS. ...
www.arcbc.org/arcbcweb/climbing_palms/ climbing_palmspage5.htm - 19k -
Cached - Similar pages
[ More results from www.arcbc.org ]

Daemonorops mollis - Filipino rattan palm
Daemonorops mollis - Filipino rattan palm Origin: Philipines
On the edge of a mango orchard. in Northern Thailand. ...
http://www.thaipalms.com/encyclopedi...opsmollis.html



I bookmarked a bunch of these. maybe i'll look further someday.