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David Fawthrop 04-06-2004 09:02 PM

Amazing fact #138
 
Robert Heinbaugh of Plainsville, Ohio, has the distinction of being
the first person in the world to be shot by a lawn mower... As he cut
the grass one evening, he ran over a live bullet which went off and
shot him in the foot.

Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip 04-06-2004 10:02 PM

Amazing fact #138
 
Be still and pray homage to David Fawthrop who posted this on 04 Jun
2004...

Robert Heinbaugh of Plainsville, Ohio, has the distinction of being
the first person in the world to be shot by a lawn mower... As he cut
the grass one evening, he ran over a live bullet which went off and
shot him in the foot.


Did he die?

--
The Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip
VISIT ME ONLINE AT: http://peterparsnip.blogspot.com/

"Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with
the rod, he shall not die." -- Proverbs 23:13 (AV)

Vox Humana 04-06-2004 11:03 PM

Amazing fact #138
 

"David Fawthrop" wrote in message
...
Robert Heinbaugh of Plainsville, Ohio, has the distinction of being
the first person in the world to be shot by a lawn mower... As he cut
the grass one evening, he ran over a live bullet which went off and
shot him in the foot.


It was probably the most exciting thing that ever happed in Painesville.



Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip 04-06-2004 11:03 PM

Amazing fact #138
 
Be still and pray homage to Vox Humana who posted this on 04 Jun 2004...


"David Fawthrop" wrote in message
...
Robert Heinbaugh of Plainsville, Ohio, has the distinction of being
the first person in the world to be shot by a lawn mower... As he cut
the grass one evening, he ran over a live bullet which went off and
shot him in the foot.


It was probably the most exciting thing that ever happed in Painesville.


It's boring there, I agree.

--
The Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip
VISIT ME ONLINE AT: http://peterparsnip.blogspot.com/

"Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with
the rod, he shall not die." -- Proverbs 23:13 (AV)

Illogic Bomb 05-06-2004 12:02 AM

Amazing fact #138
 
David Fawthrop wrote in
:

Robert Heinbaugh of Plainsville, Ohio, has the distinction of being
the first person in the world to be shot by a lawn mower... As he cut
the grass one evening, he ran over a live bullet which went off and
shot him in the foot.


So he wasn't really shot by a lawnmower.

--
Phil Kyle, Interweb Leg end

http://philkyle2003.reachme.at/

"Can we put the recent unpleasantness behind us?"

- Craig "Fatboi" Oldfield





Illogic Bomb 05-06-2004 12:02 AM

Amazing fact #138
 
go@fish (Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip) wrote in
-vegetables:

Be still and pray homage to David Fawthrop who posted this on 04 Jun
2004...

Robert Heinbaugh of Plainsville, Ohio, has the distinction of being
the first person in the world to be shot by a lawn mower... As he cut
the grass one evening, he ran over a live bullet which went off and
shot him in the foot.


Did he die?


Not unless his brain was in his foot or something.

--
Phil Kyle, Interweb Leg end

http://philkyle2003.reachme.at/

"Can we put the recent unpleasantness behind us?"

- Craig "Fatboi" Oldfield





Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip 05-06-2004 12:04 AM

Amazing fact #138
 
Be still and pray homage to Illogic Bomb who posted this on 04 Jun 2004...

go@fish (Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip) wrote in
-vegetables:

Be still and pray homage to David Fawthrop who posted this on 04 Jun
2004...

Robert Heinbaugh of Plainsville, Ohio, has the distinction of being
the first person in the world to be shot by a lawn mower... As he cut
the grass one evening, he ran over a live bullet which went off and
shot him in the foot.


Did he die?


Not unless his brain was in his foot or something.


He could have bled to death.

--
The Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip
VISIT ME ONLINE AT: http://peterparsnip.blogspot.com/

"Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with
the rod, he shall not die." -- Proverbs 23:13 (AV)

Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip 05-06-2004 12:06 AM

Amazing fact #138
 
Be still and pray homage to Illogic Bomb who posted this on 04 Jun 2004...

David Fawthrop wrote in
:

Robert Heinbaugh of Plainsville, Ohio, has the distinction of being
the first person in the world to be shot by a lawn mower... As he cut
the grass one evening, he ran over a live bullet which went off and
shot him in the foot.


So he wasn't really shot by a lawnmower.


Shit post.

--
The Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip
VISIT ME ONLINE AT: http://peterparsnip.blogspot.com/

"Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with
the rod, he shall not die." -- Proverbs 23:13 (AV)

milo 05-06-2004 12:10 AM

Amazing fact #138
 

"Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip" go@fish wrote in message
-vegetables...
Be still and pray homage to Illogic Bomb who posted this on 04 Jun

2004...

David Fawthrop wrote in
:

Robert Heinbaugh of Plainsville, Ohio, has the distinction of being
the first person in the world to be shot by a lawn mower... As he cut
the grass one evening, he ran over a live bullet which went off and
shot him in the foot.


So he wasn't really shot by a lawnmower.


Shit post.


Pot, meet kettle.

And please keep boring shite like this out of the Ohio State ng. "Ohio
State" is a rather large university with a rather important football team,
and this group sticks mainly to topics involving one or both of those. I
realize that our cousins across the pond might not know that, but we don't
go to the Man U. group just because some ****** at a restaurant called
Manchesters choked on a chip.

Thanks, and rah rah coalition of the willing.



Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip 05-06-2004 01:02 AM

Amazing fact #138
 
Be still and pray homage to milo who posted this on 04 Jun 2004...


"Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip" go@fish wrote in message
-vegetables...
Be still and pray homage to Illogic Bomb who posted this on 04 Jun
2004...

David Fawthrop wrote in
:

Robert Heinbaugh of Plainsville, Ohio, has the distinction of being
the first person in the world to be shot by a lawn mower... As he
cut the grass one evening, he ran over a live bullet which went off
and shot him in the foot.

So he wasn't really shot by a lawnmower.


Shit post.


Pot, meet kettle.

And please keep boring shite like this out of the Ohio State ng. "Ohio
State" is a rather large university with a rather important football
team, and this group sticks mainly to topics involving one or both of
those. I realize that our cousins across the pond might not know that,
but we don't go to the Man U. group just because some ****** at a
restaurant called Manchesters choked on a chip.

Thanks, and rah rah coalition of the willing.


Coalition!

--
The Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip
VISIT ME ONLINE AT: http://peterparsnip.blogspot.com/

"Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with
the rod, he shall not die." -- Proverbs 23:13 (AV)

TOM KAN PA 05-06-2004 02:06 AM

Amazing fact #138
 
There's gotta be a punchline coming sooner or later!



eclectic 05-06-2004 08:03 AM

Amazing fact #138
 

"TOM KAN PA" wrote in message
...
There's gotta be a punchline coming sooner or later!

You must be psychic. From:
http://members.fortunecity.com/melosh/true.html

"Robert Heinbaugh of Plainsville Ohio gained the dubious distinction of being
the first man ever to be shot by a LAWNMOWER! As he cut his grass one summer
evening he ran over a live bullet hidden in the grass which went off and shot
him in the foot. Luckily his wife saw the funny side of it, and mowed the rest
of the lawn herself!"



Cereus-validus 05-06-2004 04:02 PM

Amazing fact #138
 
Best excuse yet for getting the old lady to cut the grass!!!


"eclectic" wrote in message
. ..

"TOM KAN PA" wrote in message
...
There's gotta be a punchline coming sooner or later!

You must be psychic. From:
http://members.fortunecity.com/melosh/true.html

"Robert Heinbaugh of Plainsville Ohio gained the dubious distinction of

being
the first man ever to be shot by a LAWNMOWER! As he cut his grass one

summer
evening he ran over a live bullet hidden in the grass which went off and

shot
him in the foot. Luckily his wife saw the funny side of it, and mowed the

rest
of the lawn herself!"





Arthur 05-06-2004 11:04 PM

Amazing fact #138
 
He might be a contortionist that contorts while he mows.

Arthur

"Illogic Bomb" wrote in message
s.com...
go@fish (Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip) wrote in
-vegetables:

Be still and pray homage to David Fawthrop who posted this on 04 Jun
2004...

Robert Heinbaugh of Plainsville, Ohio, has the distinction of being
the first person in the world to be shot by a lawn mower... As he cut
the grass one evening, he ran over a live bullet which went off and
shot him in the foot.


Did he die?


Not unless his brain was in his foot or something.

--
Phil Kyle, Interweb Leg end

http://philkyle2003.reachme.at/

"Can we put the recent unpleasantness behind us?"

- Craig "Fatboi" Oldfield







Ian Stirling 06-06-2004 06:03 AM

Amazing fact #138
 
In uk.d-i-y Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip go@fish wrote:
Be still and pray homage to Illogic Bomb who posted this on 04 Jun 2004...

go@fish (Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip) wrote in
-vegetables:

Be still and pray homage to David Fawthrop who posted this on 04 Jun
2004...

Robert Heinbaugh of Plainsville, Ohio, has the distinction of being
the first person in the world to be shot by a lawn mower... As he cut
the grass one evening, he ran over a live bullet which went off and
shot him in the foot.

Did he die?


Not unless his brain was in his foot or something.


He could have bled to death.


Unlikely.
When you set off a cartridge that's not inside a gun, if it's unrestrained
the brass simply shoots off the bullet (which is heavier) at a relatively
low velocity, due to the very low pressure.
If it is restrained, it bursts the cartridge, again at a very low pressure,
and with a very short 'barrel', little speed is reached by the bullet.

RWL 08-06-2004 03:34 PM

Amazing fact #138
 


Robert Heinbaugh of Plainsville, Ohio, has the distinction of being
the first person in the world to be shot by a lawn mower... As he cut
the grass one evening, he ran over a live bullet which went off and
shot him in the foot.


It made for a good newspaper headline, but it's far fetched. If the
slug lodged in his foot, it was probably flung there by the mower
blade. When a bullet is "fired" outside a firearm, the bullet, being
heavier doesn't go very far. The shell case, being lighter flys
farther and at a higher speed. I don't have the reference handy at
the moment, but my recollection was that the experiments documenting
this were done by the miilitary using 30-06 ammunition.

RWL



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Paul Mc Cann 08-06-2004 03:41 PM

Amazing fact #138
 
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In article ,
says...
In uk.d-i-y Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip go@fish wrote:
Be still and pray homage to Illogic Bomb who posted this on 04 Jun 2004...

go@fish (Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip) wrote in
-vegetables:

Be still and pray homage to David Fawthrop who posted this on 04 Jun
2004...

Robert Heinbaugh of Plainsville, Ohio, has the distinction of being
the first person in the world to be shot by a lawn mower... As he cut
the grass one evening, he ran over a live bullet which went off and
shot him in the foot.

Did he die?


Not unless his brain was in his foot or something.


He could have bled to death.


Unlikely.
When you set off a cartridge that's not inside a gun, if it's unrestrained
the brass simply shoots off the bullet (which is heavier) at a relatively
low velocity, due to the very low pressure.
If it is restrained, it bursts the cartridge, again at a very low pressure,
and with a very short 'barrel', little speed is reached by the bullet.

I wouldn't be an expert but I was present when a 22 round went off after
being struck with a nail (don't ask) and it scared the s***t out of me
as it definitely attained some velocity


Paul Mc Cann

Dave Fawthrop 08-06-2004 03:45 PM

Amazing fact #138
 
On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 20:40:42 +0100, David Fawthrop wrote:

| Robert Heinbaugh of Plainsville, Ohio, has the distinction of being
| the first person in the world to be shot by a lawn mower... As he cut
| the grass one evening, he ran over a live bullet which went off and
| shot him in the foot.

Guess why they hate me

--
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Killfile and Anti Troll FAQs at
http://www.hyphenologist.co.uk/killfile.


J. Del Col 08-06-2004 03:45 PM

Amazing fact #138
 
David Fawthrop wrote in message . ..
Robert Heinbaugh of Plainsville, Ohio, has the distinction of being
the first person in the world to be shot by a lawn mower... As he cut
the grass one evening, he ran over a live bullet which went off and
shot him in the foot.


This is nonsense.

When a cartridge detonates outside a gun's chamber, the bullet barely
moves. The cartridge case may split and the primer may go flying, but
the bullet travels only a short distance at low velocity. An
unconfined bullet can't develop the pressure necessary to hit with any
force. This has been confirmed by repeated tests. .


If the bullet or case was struck by the blade and sent flying, that's
a different story.


J. Del Col

dps 08-06-2004 03:50 PM

Amazing fact #138
 
J. Del Col wrote:
...When a cartridge detonates outside a gun's chamber, the bullet barely
moves. The cartridge case may split and the primer may go flying, but
the bullet travels only a short distance at low velocity. An
unconfined bullet can't develop the pressure necessary to hit with any
force. This has been confirmed by repeated tests...




When I was a kid and didn't know any better, we made a gun from a cap
pistol, the kind that used the circular array of 6 caps. We drilled out
the cylinder to fit a .22 caliber bullet and filed down the hammer to
hit at the edge of the shell. The barrel was clear and about 1/2"
diameter. Having done all this, we went out to the field and fired it at
a bottle. After firing 20 or 30 rounds and apparently not hitting the
bottle, we put the muzzle right into the neck of the bottle and fired.

The slug bounced around in the bottom of the intact bottle.

The cylinder must have fit the shell fairly well, because the brass came
out easily (no flaring of the end), but there was nothing past the
cylinder, so the gas from the powder burning just blew by the slug and
it got no appreciable velocity.



This sounds very much like the equally unlikely story of the redneck who
blew a fuse in his truck and replaced it with a .22 cartridge, which
then heated up and exploded, shooting him in the leg or somewhere.

Bill Oliver 08-06-2004 03:59 PM

Amazing fact #138
 
In article ,
RWL wrote:


Robert Heinbaugh of Plainsville, Ohio, has the distinction of being
the first person in the world to be shot by a lawn mower... As he cut
the grass one evening, he ran over a live bullet which went off and
shot him in the foot.


It made for a good newspaper headline, but it's far fetched. If the
slug lodged in his foot, it was probably flung there by the mower
blade. When a bullet is "fired" outside a firearm, the bullet, being
heavier doesn't go very far. The shell case, being lighter flys
farther and at a higher speed. I don't have the reference handy at
the moment, but my recollection was that the experiments documenting
this were done by the miilitary using 30-06 ammunition.

RWL


You are absolutely correct. As noted by Vince DiMaio in "Gunshot Wounds:
Practical Aspects of Firearms, Ballistics, and Forensic Techniques":

None of these missiles, however, is dangerous to life under ordinary
circumstances. The bullet in fact is probably the most harmless of
all these missiles because with its relatively great mass it will
have little velocity. Fragments of brass and primer are the only
components of an exploding round that have sufficient velocity to
cause injury. These fragments can penetrate the skin or eye if the
individual is very close to the exploding cartridge. With the
exception of the eye, however, no serious injury should occur, and
certainly no mortal wound...

Note that small probabilities mean odd things will happen on rare
occasion. I have seen a case of a teenager who was, as I remember,
hitting .22 cal rimfire cartridges with a hammer. A small sliver of
brass penetrated his neck and made a small laceration in the external
carotid artery. He probably would have lived had he sought help, but
instead simply covered up the wound with a Band-Aid and went to bed...


billo

RWL 08-06-2004 06:36 PM

Amazing fact #138
 


Robert Heinbaugh of Plainsville, Ohio, has the distinction of being
the first person in the world to be shot by a lawn mower... As he cut
the grass one evening, he ran over a live bullet which went off and
shot him in the foot.


It made for a good newspaper headline, but it's far fetched. If the
slug lodged in his foot, it was probably flung there by the mower
blade. When a bullet is "fired" outside a firearm, the bullet, being
heavier doesn't go very far. The shell case, being lighter flys
farther and at a higher speed. I don't have the reference handy at
the moment, but my recollection was that the experiments documenting
this were done by the miilitary using 30-06 ammunition.

RWL



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Paul Mc Cann 08-06-2004 06:42 PM

Amazing fact #138
 
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In article ,
says...
In uk.d-i-y Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip go@fish wrote:
Be still and pray homage to Illogic Bomb who posted this on 04 Jun 2004...

go@fish (Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip) wrote in
-vegetables:

Be still and pray homage to David Fawthrop who posted this on 04 Jun
2004...

Robert Heinbaugh of Plainsville, Ohio, has the distinction of being
the first person in the world to be shot by a lawn mower... As he cut
the grass one evening, he ran over a live bullet which went off and
shot him in the foot.

Did he die?


Not unless his brain was in his foot or something.


He could have bled to death.


Unlikely.
When you set off a cartridge that's not inside a gun, if it's unrestrained
the brass simply shoots off the bullet (which is heavier) at a relatively
low velocity, due to the very low pressure.
If it is restrained, it bursts the cartridge, again at a very low pressure,
and with a very short 'barrel', little speed is reached by the bullet.

I wouldn't be an expert but I was present when a 22 round went off after
being struck with a nail (don't ask) and it scared the s***t out of me
as it definitely attained some velocity


Paul Mc Cann

Dave Fawthrop 08-06-2004 06:46 PM

Amazing fact #138
 
On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 20:40:42 +0100, David Fawthrop wrote:

| Robert Heinbaugh of Plainsville, Ohio, has the distinction of being
| the first person in the world to be shot by a lawn mower... As he cut
| the grass one evening, he ran over a live bullet which went off and
| shot him in the foot.

Guess why they hate me

--
Dave Fawthrop dave hyphenologist co uk
Killfile and Anti Troll FAQs at
http://www.hyphenologist.co.uk/killfile.


J. Del Col 08-06-2004 06:46 PM

Amazing fact #138
 
David Fawthrop wrote in message . ..
Robert Heinbaugh of Plainsville, Ohio, has the distinction of being
the first person in the world to be shot by a lawn mower... As he cut
the grass one evening, he ran over a live bullet which went off and
shot him in the foot.


This is nonsense.

When a cartridge detonates outside a gun's chamber, the bullet barely
moves. The cartridge case may split and the primer may go flying, but
the bullet travels only a short distance at low velocity. An
unconfined bullet can't develop the pressure necessary to hit with any
force. This has been confirmed by repeated tests. .


If the bullet or case was struck by the blade and sent flying, that's
a different story.


J. Del Col

dps 08-06-2004 06:51 PM

Amazing fact #138
 
J. Del Col wrote:
...When a cartridge detonates outside a gun's chamber, the bullet barely
moves. The cartridge case may split and the primer may go flying, but
the bullet travels only a short distance at low velocity. An
unconfined bullet can't develop the pressure necessary to hit with any
force. This has been confirmed by repeated tests...




When I was a kid and didn't know any better, we made a gun from a cap
pistol, the kind that used the circular array of 6 caps. We drilled out
the cylinder to fit a .22 caliber bullet and filed down the hammer to
hit at the edge of the shell. The barrel was clear and about 1/2"
diameter. Having done all this, we went out to the field and fired it at
a bottle. After firing 20 or 30 rounds and apparently not hitting the
bottle, we put the muzzle right into the neck of the bottle and fired.

The slug bounced around in the bottom of the intact bottle.

The cylinder must have fit the shell fairly well, because the brass came
out easily (no flaring of the end), but there was nothing past the
cylinder, so the gas from the powder burning just blew by the slug and
it got no appreciable velocity.



This sounds very much like the equally unlikely story of the redneck who
blew a fuse in his truck and replaced it with a .22 cartridge, which
then heated up and exploded, shooting him in the leg or somewhere.

Bill Oliver 08-06-2004 07:00 PM

Amazing fact #138
 
In article ,
RWL wrote:


Robert Heinbaugh of Plainsville, Ohio, has the distinction of being
the first person in the world to be shot by a lawn mower... As he cut
the grass one evening, he ran over a live bullet which went off and
shot him in the foot.


It made for a good newspaper headline, but it's far fetched. If the
slug lodged in his foot, it was probably flung there by the mower
blade. When a bullet is "fired" outside a firearm, the bullet, being
heavier doesn't go very far. The shell case, being lighter flys
farther and at a higher speed. I don't have the reference handy at
the moment, but my recollection was that the experiments documenting
this were done by the miilitary using 30-06 ammunition.

RWL


You are absolutely correct. As noted by Vince DiMaio in "Gunshot Wounds:
Practical Aspects of Firearms, Ballistics, and Forensic Techniques":

None of these missiles, however, is dangerous to life under ordinary
circumstances. The bullet in fact is probably the most harmless of
all these missiles because with its relatively great mass it will
have little velocity. Fragments of brass and primer are the only
components of an exploding round that have sufficient velocity to
cause injury. These fragments can penetrate the skin or eye if the
individual is very close to the exploding cartridge. With the
exception of the eye, however, no serious injury should occur, and
certainly no mortal wound...

Note that small probabilities mean odd things will happen on rare
occasion. I have seen a case of a teenager who was, as I remember,
hitting .22 cal rimfire cartridges with a hammer. A small sliver of
brass penetrated his neck and made a small laceration in the external
carotid artery. He probably would have lived had he sought help, but
instead simply covered up the wound with a Band-Aid and went to bed...


billo

RWL 08-06-2004 07:48 PM

Amazing fact #138
 


Robert Heinbaugh of Plainsville, Ohio, has the distinction of being
the first person in the world to be shot by a lawn mower... As he cut
the grass one evening, he ran over a live bullet which went off and
shot him in the foot.


It made for a good newspaper headline, but it's far fetched. If the
slug lodged in his foot, it was probably flung there by the mower
blade. When a bullet is "fired" outside a firearm, the bullet, being
heavier doesn't go very far. The shell case, being lighter flys
farther and at a higher speed. I don't have the reference handy at
the moment, but my recollection was that the experiments documenting
this were done by the miilitary using 30-06 ammunition.

RWL



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Paul Mc Cann 08-06-2004 07:54 PM

Amazing fact #138
 
Xref: kermit uk.misc:647286 uk.local.yorkshi289843 alt.sports.college.ohio-state:16440 uk.rec.gardening:208723 rec.gardens:281780 demon.local:349460 uk.d-i-y:381302

In article ,
says...
In uk.d-i-y Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip go@fish wrote:
Be still and pray homage to Illogic Bomb who posted this on 04 Jun 2004...

go@fish (Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip) wrote in
-vegetables:

Be still and pray homage to David Fawthrop who posted this on 04 Jun
2004...

Robert Heinbaugh of Plainsville, Ohio, has the distinction of being
the first person in the world to be shot by a lawn mower... As he cut
the grass one evening, he ran over a live bullet which went off and
shot him in the foot.

Did he die?


Not unless his brain was in his foot or something.


He could have bled to death.


Unlikely.
When you set off a cartridge that's not inside a gun, if it's unrestrained
the brass simply shoots off the bullet (which is heavier) at a relatively
low velocity, due to the very low pressure.
If it is restrained, it bursts the cartridge, again at a very low pressure,
and with a very short 'barrel', little speed is reached by the bullet.

I wouldn't be an expert but I was present when a 22 round went off after
being struck with a nail (don't ask) and it scared the s***t out of me
as it definitely attained some velocity


Paul Mc Cann

Dave Fawthrop 08-06-2004 07:57 PM

Amazing fact #138
 
On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 20:40:42 +0100, David Fawthrop wrote:

| Robert Heinbaugh of Plainsville, Ohio, has the distinction of being
| the first person in the world to be shot by a lawn mower... As he cut
| the grass one evening, he ran over a live bullet which went off and
| shot him in the foot.

Guess why they hate me

--
Dave Fawthrop dave hyphenologist co uk
Killfile and Anti Troll FAQs at
http://www.hyphenologist.co.uk/killfile.


J. Del Col 08-06-2004 07:58 PM

Amazing fact #138
 
David Fawthrop wrote in message . ..
Robert Heinbaugh of Plainsville, Ohio, has the distinction of being
the first person in the world to be shot by a lawn mower... As he cut
the grass one evening, he ran over a live bullet which went off and
shot him in the foot.


This is nonsense.

When a cartridge detonates outside a gun's chamber, the bullet barely
moves. The cartridge case may split and the primer may go flying, but
the bullet travels only a short distance at low velocity. An
unconfined bullet can't develop the pressure necessary to hit with any
force. This has been confirmed by repeated tests. .


If the bullet or case was struck by the blade and sent flying, that's
a different story.


J. Del Col

dps 08-06-2004 08:08 PM

Amazing fact #138
 
J. Del Col wrote:
...When a cartridge detonates outside a gun's chamber, the bullet barely
moves. The cartridge case may split and the primer may go flying, but
the bullet travels only a short distance at low velocity. An
unconfined bullet can't develop the pressure necessary to hit with any
force. This has been confirmed by repeated tests...




When I was a kid and didn't know any better, we made a gun from a cap
pistol, the kind that used the circular array of 6 caps. We drilled out
the cylinder to fit a .22 caliber bullet and filed down the hammer to
hit at the edge of the shell. The barrel was clear and about 1/2"
diameter. Having done all this, we went out to the field and fired it at
a bottle. After firing 20 or 30 rounds and apparently not hitting the
bottle, we put the muzzle right into the neck of the bottle and fired.

The slug bounced around in the bottom of the intact bottle.

The cylinder must have fit the shell fairly well, because the brass came
out easily (no flaring of the end), but there was nothing past the
cylinder, so the gas from the powder burning just blew by the slug and
it got no appreciable velocity.



This sounds very much like the equally unlikely story of the redneck who
blew a fuse in his truck and replaced it with a .22 cartridge, which
then heated up and exploded, shooting him in the leg or somewhere.

RWL 08-06-2004 08:35 PM

Amazing fact #138
 


Robert Heinbaugh of Plainsville, Ohio, has the distinction of being
the first person in the world to be shot by a lawn mower... As he cut
the grass one evening, he ran over a live bullet which went off and
shot him in the foot.


It made for a good newspaper headline, but it's far fetched. If the
slug lodged in his foot, it was probably flung there by the mower
blade. When a bullet is "fired" outside a firearm, the bullet, being
heavier doesn't go very far. The shell case, being lighter flys
farther and at a higher speed. I don't have the reference handy at
the moment, but my recollection was that the experiments documenting
this were done by the miilitary using 30-06 ammunition.

RWL



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Paul Mc Cann 08-06-2004 08:41 PM

Amazing fact #138
 
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In article ,
says...
In uk.d-i-y Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip go@fish wrote:
Be still and pray homage to Illogic Bomb who posted this on 04 Jun 2004...

go@fish (Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip) wrote in
-vegetables:

Be still and pray homage to David Fawthrop who posted this on 04 Jun
2004...

Robert Heinbaugh of Plainsville, Ohio, has the distinction of being
the first person in the world to be shot by a lawn mower... As he cut
the grass one evening, he ran over a live bullet which went off and
shot him in the foot.

Did he die?


Not unless his brain was in his foot or something.


He could have bled to death.


Unlikely.
When you set off a cartridge that's not inside a gun, if it's unrestrained
the brass simply shoots off the bullet (which is heavier) at a relatively
low velocity, due to the very low pressure.
If it is restrained, it bursts the cartridge, again at a very low pressure,
and with a very short 'barrel', little speed is reached by the bullet.

I wouldn't be an expert but I was present when a 22 round went off after
being struck with a nail (don't ask) and it scared the s***t out of me
as it definitely attained some velocity


Paul Mc Cann

Dave Fawthrop 08-06-2004 08:45 PM

Amazing fact #138
 
On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 20:40:42 +0100, David Fawthrop wrote:

| Robert Heinbaugh of Plainsville, Ohio, has the distinction of being
| the first person in the world to be shot by a lawn mower... As he cut
| the grass one evening, he ran over a live bullet which went off and
| shot him in the foot.

Guess why they hate me

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J. Del Col 08-06-2004 08:45 PM

Amazing fact #138
 
David Fawthrop wrote in message . ..
Robert Heinbaugh of Plainsville, Ohio, has the distinction of being
the first person in the world to be shot by a lawn mower... As he cut
the grass one evening, he ran over a live bullet which went off and
shot him in the foot.


This is nonsense.

When a cartridge detonates outside a gun's chamber, the bullet barely
moves. The cartridge case may split and the primer may go flying, but
the bullet travels only a short distance at low velocity. An
unconfined bullet can't develop the pressure necessary to hit with any
force. This has been confirmed by repeated tests. .


If the bullet or case was struck by the blade and sent flying, that's
a different story.


J. Del Col

dps 08-06-2004 08:51 PM

Amazing fact #138
 
J. Del Col wrote:
...When a cartridge detonates outside a gun's chamber, the bullet barely
moves. The cartridge case may split and the primer may go flying, but
the bullet travels only a short distance at low velocity. An
unconfined bullet can't develop the pressure necessary to hit with any
force. This has been confirmed by repeated tests...




When I was a kid and didn't know any better, we made a gun from a cap
pistol, the kind that used the circular array of 6 caps. We drilled out
the cylinder to fit a .22 caliber bullet and filed down the hammer to
hit at the edge of the shell. The barrel was clear and about 1/2"
diameter. Having done all this, we went out to the field and fired it at
a bottle. After firing 20 or 30 rounds and apparently not hitting the
bottle, we put the muzzle right into the neck of the bottle and fired.

The slug bounced around in the bottom of the intact bottle.

The cylinder must have fit the shell fairly well, because the brass came
out easily (no flaring of the end), but there was nothing past the
cylinder, so the gas from the powder burning just blew by the slug and
it got no appreciable velocity.



This sounds very much like the equally unlikely story of the redneck who
blew a fuse in his truck and replaced it with a .22 cartridge, which
then heated up and exploded, shooting him in the leg or somewhere.

Bill Oliver 08-06-2004 09:00 PM

Amazing fact #138
 
In article ,
RWL wrote:


Robert Heinbaugh of Plainsville, Ohio, has the distinction of being
the first person in the world to be shot by a lawn mower... As he cut
the grass one evening, he ran over a live bullet which went off and
shot him in the foot.


It made for a good newspaper headline, but it's far fetched. If the
slug lodged in his foot, it was probably flung there by the mower
blade. When a bullet is "fired" outside a firearm, the bullet, being
heavier doesn't go very far. The shell case, being lighter flys
farther and at a higher speed. I don't have the reference handy at
the moment, but my recollection was that the experiments documenting
this were done by the miilitary using 30-06 ammunition.

RWL


You are absolutely correct. As noted by Vince DiMaio in "Gunshot Wounds:
Practical Aspects of Firearms, Ballistics, and Forensic Techniques":

None of these missiles, however, is dangerous to life under ordinary
circumstances. The bullet in fact is probably the most harmless of
all these missiles because with its relatively great mass it will
have little velocity. Fragments of brass and primer are the only
components of an exploding round that have sufficient velocity to
cause injury. These fragments can penetrate the skin or eye if the
individual is very close to the exploding cartridge. With the
exception of the eye, however, no serious injury should occur, and
certainly no mortal wound...

Note that small probabilities mean odd things will happen on rare
occasion. I have seen a case of a teenager who was, as I remember,
hitting .22 cal rimfire cartridges with a hammer. A small sliver of
brass penetrated his neck and made a small laceration in the external
carotid artery. He probably would have lived had he sought help, but
instead simply covered up the wound with a Band-Aid and went to bed...


billo

RWL 08-06-2004 10:32 PM

Amazing fact #138
 


Robert Heinbaugh of Plainsville, Ohio, has the distinction of being
the first person in the world to be shot by a lawn mower... As he cut
the grass one evening, he ran over a live bullet which went off and
shot him in the foot.


It made for a good newspaper headline, but it's far fetched. If the
slug lodged in his foot, it was probably flung there by the mower
blade. When a bullet is "fired" outside a firearm, the bullet, being
heavier doesn't go very far. The shell case, being lighter flys
farther and at a higher speed. I don't have the reference handy at
the moment, but my recollection was that the experiments documenting
this were done by the miilitary using 30-06 ammunition.

RWL



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Paul Mc Cann 08-06-2004 10:38 PM

Amazing fact #138
 
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In article ,
says...
In uk.d-i-y Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip go@fish wrote:
Be still and pray homage to Illogic Bomb who posted this on 04 Jun 2004...

go@fish (Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip) wrote in
-vegetables:

Be still and pray homage to David Fawthrop who posted this on 04 Jun
2004...

Robert Heinbaugh of Plainsville, Ohio, has the distinction of being
the first person in the world to be shot by a lawn mower... As he cut
the grass one evening, he ran over a live bullet which went off and
shot him in the foot.

Did he die?


Not unless his brain was in his foot or something.


He could have bled to death.


Unlikely.
When you set off a cartridge that's not inside a gun, if it's unrestrained
the brass simply shoots off the bullet (which is heavier) at a relatively
low velocity, due to the very low pressure.
If it is restrained, it bursts the cartridge, again at a very low pressure,
and with a very short 'barrel', little speed is reached by the bullet.

I wouldn't be an expert but I was present when a 22 round went off after
being struck with a nail (don't ask) and it scared the s***t out of me
as it definitely attained some velocity


Paul Mc Cann


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