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Mark Anderson 29-07-2004 05:33 AM

When to pick jalapeno peppers
 
This year I grew a jalapeno pepper plant for the first time. The peppers
are starting to get big but I'm confused as to how one goes about
determining when to pick them. My Chili peppers are easy in that they
turn red when ready to pick but the jalapenos will just stay green. Does
anyone have a system for this?


Bill 29-07-2004 07:14 AM

When to pick jalapeno peppers
 
In article ,
says...
This year I grew a jalapeno pepper plant for the first time. The peppers
are starting to get big but I'm confused as to how one goes about
determining when to pick them. My Chili peppers are easy in that they
turn red when ready to pick but the jalapenos will just stay green. Does
anyone have a system for this?



Green jalapenos I pick at a couple of inches long or bigger.
They'll turn red if you leave them on long enough, which is when I usually
pick them.

Bill

Bill 29-07-2004 07:14 AM

When to pick jalapeno peppers
 
In article ,
says...
This year I grew a jalapeno pepper plant for the first time. The peppers
are starting to get big but I'm confused as to how one goes about
determining when to pick them. My Chili peppers are easy in that they
turn red when ready to pick but the jalapenos will just stay green. Does
anyone have a system for this?



Green jalapenos I pick at a couple of inches long or bigger.
They'll turn red if you leave them on long enough, which is when I usually
pick them.

Bill

DigitalVinyl 29-07-2004 06:32 PM

When to pick jalapeno peppers
 
Mark Anderson wrote:

This year I grew a jalapeno pepper plant for the first time. The peppers
are starting to get big but I'm confused as to how one goes about
determining when to pick them. My Chili peppers are easy in that they
turn red when ready to pick but the jalapenos will just stay green. Does
anyone have a system for this?


I think they are definitely ready--maybe over ready when they scar.
They tend to get lots of stem to end scarring/cracks on them. I recall
reading that this was a definite sign of maturity.

My jalapeno rarely turn red. I just found one 1/2" long
jalapeno--red. Had a problem with minature fruits at the start of the
season. The only ones that turned red were at the very end of summer
into fall last year. They usually don't last on the plant long enough
to turn red. :-) Also if they are red then the seeds should be mature
and the chance of the plant shutting down increases.


DiGiTAL ViNYL (no email)
Zone 6b/7, Westchester Co, NY, 1 mile off L.I.Sound
2nd year gardener
http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/royalfrazier/

DigitalVinyl 29-07-2004 06:32 PM

When to pick jalapeno peppers
 
Mark Anderson wrote:

This year I grew a jalapeno pepper plant for the first time. The peppers
are starting to get big but I'm confused as to how one goes about
determining when to pick them. My Chili peppers are easy in that they
turn red when ready to pick but the jalapenos will just stay green. Does
anyone have a system for this?


I think they are definitely ready--maybe over ready when they scar.
They tend to get lots of stem to end scarring/cracks on them. I recall
reading that this was a definite sign of maturity.

My jalapeno rarely turn red. I just found one 1/2" long
jalapeno--red. Had a problem with minature fruits at the start of the
season. The only ones that turned red were at the very end of summer
into fall last year. They usually don't last on the plant long enough
to turn red. :-) Also if they are red then the seeds should be mature
and the chance of the plant shutting down increases.


DiGiTAL ViNYL (no email)
Zone 6b/7, Westchester Co, NY, 1 mile off L.I.Sound
2nd year gardener
http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/royalfrazier/

Gary 29-07-2004 11:35 PM

Jalapenos not hot
 
My jalapeno peppers are not very hot this year. Our summer weather
has been about the same as usual - maybe slightly cooler on the whole.
Can't think of any other variable that might have changed. Same
soil, same water, same fertilizing schedule, same location. The
peppers have the charactaristic shape, color and size for a jalapeno,
so I don't think the plant I bought was mislabled at the nursery.
Anyone have an idea why peppers might be mild this season?
Thx
Gary

Beecrofter 30-07-2004 04:18 AM

Jalapenos not hot
 
(Gary) wrote in message . com...
My jalapeno peppers are not very hot this year. Our summer weather
has been about the same as usual - maybe slightly cooler on the whole.
Can't think of any other variable that might have changed. Same
soil, same water, same fertilizing schedule, same location. The
peppers have the charactaristic shape, color and size for a jalapeno,
so I don't think the plant I bought was mislabled at the nursery.
Anyone have an idea why peppers might be mild this season?
Thx
Gary


Some morons in the plant science industry have taken it upon
themselves to breed jalepeno peppers to be mild. You might want to try
Serrano next time as they still have some zip.

Joyce 30-07-2004 02:26 PM

Jalapenos not hot
 
I say that if it isn't hot, then it isn't a real jalapeno!!



(Beecrofter) wrote in message . com...
(Gary) wrote in message . com...
My jalapeno peppers are not very hot this year. Our summer weather
has been about the same as usual - maybe slightly cooler on the whole.
Can't think of any other variable that might have changed. Same
soil, same water, same fertilizing schedule, same location. The
peppers have the charactaristic shape, color and size for a jalapeno,
so I don't think the plant I bought was mislabled at the nursery.
Anyone have an idea why peppers might be mild this season?
Thx
Gary


Some morons in the plant science industry have taken it upon
themselves to breed jalepeno peppers to be mild. You might want to try
Serrano next time as they still have some zip.


Jim Carlock 30-07-2004 03:31 PM

Jalapenos not hot
 
Is it true that Jalapeno's can cross breed with belle peppers?

--
Jim Carlock
Post replies to the newsgroup.

"Joyce" wrote:
I say that if it isn't hot, then it isn't a real jalapeno!!

(Beecrofter) wrote:

Some morons in the plant science industry have taken it upon
themselves to breed jalepeno peppers to be mild. You might
want to try Serrano next time as they still have some zip.




Jim Carlock 30-07-2004 03:31 PM

Jalapenos not hot
 
Is it true that Jalapeno's can cross breed with belle peppers?

--
Jim Carlock
Post replies to the newsgroup.

"Joyce" wrote:
I say that if it isn't hot, then it isn't a real jalapeno!!

(Beecrofter) wrote:

Some morons in the plant science industry have taken it upon
themselves to breed jalepeno peppers to be mild. You might
want to try Serrano next time as they still have some zip.




Gary 31-07-2004 11:45 PM

Jalapenos not hot
 
"Jim Carlock" wrote in message om...
Is it true that Jalapeno's can cross breed with belle peppers?

--
Jim Carlock


I would think that if they did cross-polinate, the results would be
seen in the next generation, i.e. in next year's crop that comes from
the seeds from this year's peppers. I'm a far cry from a botanist, so
don't quote me on this.
Gary

Gary 31-07-2004 11:45 PM

Jalapenos not hot
 
"Jim Carlock" wrote in message om...
Is it true that Jalapeno's can cross breed with belle peppers?

--
Jim Carlock


I would think that if they did cross-polinate, the results would be
seen in the next generation, i.e. in next year's crop that comes from
the seeds from this year's peppers. I'm a far cry from a botanist, so
don't quote me on this.
Gary

Beecrofter 01-08-2004 02:30 AM

Jalapenos not hot
 
"Jim Carlock" wrote in message om...
Is it true that Jalapeno's can cross breed with belle peppers?

So what if they did?
It would only matter if you were saving seed to plant next year.

Beecrofter 01-08-2004 02:30 AM

Jalapenos not hot
 
"Jim Carlock" wrote in message om...
Is it true that Jalapeno's can cross breed with belle peppers?

So what if they did?
It would only matter if you were saving seed to plant next year.

Christopher Green 01-08-2004 03:49 AM

Jalapenos not hot
 
(Gary) wrote in message . com...
"Jim Carlock" wrote in message om...
Is it true that Jalapeno's can cross breed with belle peppers?

--
Jim Carlock


I would think that if they did cross-polinate, the results would be
seen in the next generation, i.e. in next year's crop that comes from
the seeds from this year's peppers. I'm a far cry from a botanist, so
don't quote me on this.
Gary


That's right, and this is well known to pepper growers. Of the five
commercial species of Capsicum, all but C. pubescens (Andean "apple
chiles") will cross-pollinate, and all of the many varieties of C.
annuum and C.chinense will cross-pollinate especially easily.

If you want seed that will come true in the next crop, you need to
resort to measures such as bagging.

--
Chris Green

Jim Carlock 01-08-2004 05:17 AM

Jalapenos not hot
 
I bought some D.M. Ferry's Jalapeno M (Hot Flavor) seeds.
The package is stating plant them hot and sweet peppers in
separate areas to prevent cross polination... I wasn't sure
if sweet peppers meant belle peppers or perhaps a sweet
variety of jalapeno.

Thanks for the information.

--
Jim Carlock
Post replies to the newsgroup.


"Christopher Green" wrote:
(Gary) wrote:
"Jim Carlock" wrote:
Is it true that Jalapeno's can cross breed with belle peppers?

--
Jim Carlock


I would think that if they did cross-polinate, the results would be
seen in the next generation, i.e. in next year's crop that comes from
the seeds from this year's peppers. I'm a far cry from a botanist, so
don't quote me on this.
Gary


That's right, and this is well known to pepper growers. Of the five
commercial species of Capsicum, all but C. pubescens (Andean "apple
chiles") will cross-pollinate, and all of the many varieties of C.
annuum and C.chinense will cross-pollinate especially easily.

If you want seed that will come true in the next crop, you need to
resort to measures such as bagging.

--
Chris Green



DigitalVinyl 01-08-2004 04:55 PM

Jalapenos not hot
 
"Jim Carlock" wrote:

I bought some D.M. Ferry's Jalapeno M (Hot Flavor) seeds.
The package is stating plant them hot and sweet peppers in
separate areas to prevent cross polination... I wasn't sure
if sweet peppers meant belle peppers or perhaps a sweet
variety of jalapeno.


But cross-pollination should only affect the children--the seeds are
the children--not the fruits and veggies. The seeds are what grow up
to be the next generation of plants. This topics always seems
confusing because you do read different information all over the
place. I can tell you that I have had cayennes, jalapenos, anaheims
and bells growing right next to eachother--so that they grow into
eachother and each has very different fiery-ness. No cross over in
flavors.

This confused me cause corn is talked about very differently. Corn
cross pollinates and many sources say this season's corn will be
different due to cross polination. However I then realized WE EAT THE
SEEDS! Tomatoes, peppers, melons, oranges--we eat the flesh of the
seed container of these. We even avoid the seeds on some. Corn, peas,
beans--we eat ONLY the seeds. So cross polination affects the part we
care about.


Thanks for the information.

--
Jim Carlock
Post replies to the newsgroup.


"Christopher Green" wrote:
(Gary) wrote:
"Jim Carlock" wrote:
Is it true that Jalapeno's can cross breed with belle peppers?

--
Jim Carlock


I would think that if they did cross-polinate, the results would be
seen in the next generation, i.e. in next year's crop that comes from
the seeds from this year's peppers. I'm a far cry from a botanist, so
don't quote me on this.
Gary


That's right, and this is well known to pepper growers. Of the five
commercial species of Capsicum, all but C. pubescens (Andean "apple
chiles") will cross-pollinate, and all of the many varieties of C.
annuum and C.chinense will cross-pollinate especially easily.

If you want seed that will come true in the next crop, you need to
resort to measures such as bagging.


DiGiTAL ViNYL (no email)
Zone 6b/7, Westchester Co, NY, 1 mile off L.I.Sound
2nd year gardener
http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/royalfrazier/

DigitalVinyl 01-08-2004 04:55 PM

Jalapenos not hot
 
"Jim Carlock" wrote:

I bought some D.M. Ferry's Jalapeno M (Hot Flavor) seeds.
The package is stating plant them hot and sweet peppers in
separate areas to prevent cross polination... I wasn't sure
if sweet peppers meant belle peppers or perhaps a sweet
variety of jalapeno.


But cross-pollination should only affect the children--the seeds are
the children--not the fruits and veggies. The seeds are what grow up
to be the next generation of plants. This topics always seems
confusing because you do read different information all over the
place. I can tell you that I have had cayennes, jalapenos, anaheims
and bells growing right next to eachother--so that they grow into
eachother and each has very different fiery-ness. No cross over in
flavors.

This confused me cause corn is talked about very differently. Corn
cross pollinates and many sources say this season's corn will be
different due to cross polination. However I then realized WE EAT THE
SEEDS! Tomatoes, peppers, melons, oranges--we eat the flesh of the
seed container of these. We even avoid the seeds on some. Corn, peas,
beans--we eat ONLY the seeds. So cross polination affects the part we
care about.


Thanks for the information.

--
Jim Carlock
Post replies to the newsgroup.


"Christopher Green" wrote:
(Gary) wrote:
"Jim Carlock" wrote:
Is it true that Jalapeno's can cross breed with belle peppers?

--
Jim Carlock


I would think that if they did cross-polinate, the results would be
seen in the next generation, i.e. in next year's crop that comes from
the seeds from this year's peppers. I'm a far cry from a botanist, so
don't quote me on this.
Gary


That's right, and this is well known to pepper growers. Of the five
commercial species of Capsicum, all but C. pubescens (Andean "apple
chiles") will cross-pollinate, and all of the many varieties of C.
annuum and C.chinense will cross-pollinate especially easily.

If you want seed that will come true in the next crop, you need to
resort to measures such as bagging.


DiGiTAL ViNYL (no email)
Zone 6b/7, Westchester Co, NY, 1 mile off L.I.Sound
2nd year gardener
http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/royalfrazier/

Gary 01-08-2004 10:41 PM

Jalapenos not hot
 
(Beecrofter) wrote in message . com...
"Jim Carlock" wrote in message om...
Is it true that Jalapeno's can cross breed with belle peppers?

So what if they did?
It would only matter if you were saving seed to plant next year.


Yes, I agree - so what!

Gary 01-08-2004 10:41 PM

Jalapenos not hot
 
(Beecrofter) wrote in message . com...
"Jim Carlock" wrote in message om...
Is it true that Jalapeno's can cross breed with belle peppers?

So what if they did?
It would only matter if you were saving seed to plant next year.


Yes, I agree - so what!


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