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Rob 12-09-2004 09:38 PM

yellow jacket nest, cant reach
 
somewhere under the eaves of my house on the first floor is a nest. the
yellow jackets swarm all over the area and are starting to chase me and my
wife when we come in and out of the house (its a duplex, we're on the second
floor). they are also starting to get into the neighbors house on the first
floor. i cant see the nest, ive sprayed a couple of cans of raid into the
hole in the wood they are flying in and out of, but no luck. i cant plug up
the hole or they'll all just use the exit into our neighbors house. what do
i need to kill them? thanks!



Cereus-validus 12-09-2004 10:08 PM

Call a professional exterminator.


"Rob" wrote in message news:2t21d.1877$yJ3.1752@trndny08...
somewhere under the eaves of my house on the first floor is a nest. the
yellow jackets swarm all over the area and are starting to chase me and my
wife when we come in and out of the house (its a duplex, we're on the

second
floor). they are also starting to get into the neighbors house on the

first
floor. i cant see the nest, ive sprayed a couple of cans of raid into the
hole in the wood they are flying in and out of, but no luck. i cant plug

up
the hole or they'll all just use the exit into our neighbors house. what

do
i need to kill them? thanks!





Rob 13-09-2004 02:51 AM

yes, yes, i like to learn to do things myself though if it's reasonable to
do so before just picking up a phone and writing a check.

"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
om...
Call a professional exterminator.


"Rob" wrote in message
news:2t21d.1877$yJ3.1752@trndny08...
somewhere under the eaves of my house on the first floor is a nest. the
yellow jackets swarm all over the area and are starting to chase me and
my
wife when we come in and out of the house (its a duplex, we're on the

second
floor). they are also starting to get into the neighbors house on the

first
floor. i cant see the nest, ive sprayed a couple of cans of raid into
the
hole in the wood they are flying in and out of, but no luck. i cant plug

up
the hole or they'll all just use the exit into our neighbors house. what

do
i need to kill them? thanks!







zxcvbob 13-09-2004 03:01 AM

Rob wrote:

yes, yes, i like to learn to do things myself though if it's reasonable to
do so before just picking up a phone and writing a check.



If you really gotta kill 'em, use just about any insecticide dust or
powder (not granules), and toss a goodly pinch in the hole. (best to do
it in the evening) Sevin dust ought to work well, but it's not always a
good choice because it stains.


Bob

Rob 13-09-2004 02:42 PM


"zxcvbob" wrote in message
...
Rob wrote:

yes, yes, i like to learn to do things myself though if it's reasonable
to do so before just picking up a phone and writing a check.



If you really gotta kill 'em, use just about any insecticide dust or
powder (not granules), and toss a goodly pinch in the hole. (best to do it
in the evening) Sevin dust ought to work well, but it's not always a good
choice because it stains.


Bob


thanks, i have no choice, they are chasing me and my pregnant wife whenever
we come in
and out of the house and have already stung the downstairs neighbor. i've
called a bunch
of exterminators and they're all quoting me $175-$250 since the nest isn't
visable (who the
heck would call for a visable nest when Raid is $5 a can). I'll see if I
can find a place with
Sevin dust and give it a shot myself.



zxcvbob 13-09-2004 04:05 PM

Rob wrote:
"zxcvbob" wrote in message
...

Rob wrote:


yes, yes, i like to learn to do things myself though if it's reasonable
to do so before just picking up a phone and writing a check.



If you really gotta kill 'em, use just about any insecticide dust or
powder (not granules), and toss a goodly pinch in the hole. (best to do it
in the evening) Sevin dust ought to work well, but it's not always a good
choice because it stains.


Bob



thanks, i have no choice, they are chasing me and my pregnant wife whenever
we come in
and out of the house and have already stung the downstairs neighbor. i've
called a bunch
of exterminators and they're all quoting me $175-$250 since the nest isn't
visable (who the
heck would call for a visable nest when Raid is $5 a can). I'll see if I
can find a place with
Sevin dust and give it a shot myself.




You don't need much poison at all, but you do need to get it all over
the place up there so if you miss the nest (and you probably will) the
wasps will walk through the powder on their way in and out and get it on
thier feet. You want something that doesn't act too fast; the YJ's will
track it into the nest and poison the whole hive when grooming.

Good luck, and best regards,
Bob

SVTKate 13-09-2004 08:51 PM

Call your landlord, and have them call an exterminator.
That's why they get paid the big bucks :)

Kate

"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
om...
| Call a professional exterminator.
|
|
| "Rob" wrote in message
news:2t21d.1877$yJ3.1752@trndny08...
| somewhere under the eaves of my house on the first floor is a nest. the
| yellow jackets swarm all over the area and are starting to chase me and
my
| wife when we come in and out of the house (its a duplex, we're on the
| second
| floor). they are also starting to get into the neighbors house on the
| first
| floor. i cant see the nest, ive sprayed a couple of cans of raid into
the
| hole in the wood they are flying in and out of, but no luck. i cant
plug
| up
| the hole or they'll all just use the exit into our neighbors house.
what
| do
| i need to kill them? thanks!
|
|
|
|



Rob 13-09-2004 10:08 PM

the landlord wanted to send her son to fix it. her son wanted to block up
the opening, disregarding the fact that the bees were coming out another
opening somewhere into the downstairs apartment. thankfully the son
apparently forgot to "fix" things. we told the landlord we'd call an
exterminator, but no way she'll pay $175-$250, so screw it, i'll do it
myself. i have the sevin now and the duster. just waiting for dark. cost
about $40 for the two.

"SVTKate" wrote in message
k.net...
Call your landlord, and have them call an exterminator.
That's why they get paid the big bucks :)

Kate

"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
om...
| Call a professional exterminator.
|
|
| "Rob" wrote in message
news:2t21d.1877$yJ3.1752@trndny08...
| somewhere under the eaves of my house on the first floor is a nest.
the
| yellow jackets swarm all over the area and are starting to chase me
and
my
| wife when we come in and out of the house (its a duplex, we're on the
| second
| floor). they are also starting to get into the neighbors house on the
| first
| floor. i cant see the nest, ive sprayed a couple of cans of raid into
the
| hole in the wood they are flying in and out of, but no luck. i cant
plug
| up
| the hole or they'll all just use the exit into our neighbors house.
what
| do
| i need to kill them? thanks!
|
|
|
|





Pat Jordan 13-09-2004 10:22 PM

Yellow jackets won't swarm after the sun goes down. The best way to destroy
a nest is pour gasoline in the hole and light it. I know you can't do that
where your nest is located, so I guess your other alternative is to have
your landlord bring in an exterminator.




zxcvbob 13-09-2004 11:45 PM

Rob wrote:
the landlord wanted to send her son to fix it. her son wanted to block up
the opening, disregarding the fact that the bees were coming out another
opening somewhere into the downstairs apartment. thankfully the son
apparently forgot to "fix" things. we told the landlord we'd call an
exterminator, but no way she'll pay $175-$250, so screw it, i'll do it
myself. i have the sevin now and the duster. just waiting for dark. cost
about $40 for the two.



$40? It should have only cost a few dollars for the sevin, and 99¢ for
a turkey baster. (I usually don't bother with the turkey baster and
just throw a pinch of insecticide powder down the YJ hole with my fingers.)

I killed a huge nest of them that way a couple of years ago. They were
under the neighbor's sidewalk (I don't know how they just appeared there
suddenly) and they were stinging passers-by. The neighbor tried burning
them out with gasoline and was lucky he didn't set himself on fire. It
just ****ed off the YJ's, and *maybe* killed a couple of them. I waited
until almost dark and threw about a teaspoon of methoxychlor dust (a
general purpose farm insecicide sometimes used on cattle) in the crack
where they were going in and out. The next day, there were no more wasps.

I'm sure the $30-something duster you bought will do a good job too...

Bob

Rob 14-09-2004 01:36 AM


"zxcvbob" wrote in message
...
Rob wrote:
the landlord wanted to send her son to fix it. her son wanted to block
up the opening, disregarding the fact that the bees were coming out
another opening somewhere into the downstairs apartment. thankfully the
son apparently forgot to "fix" things. we told the landlord we'd call an
exterminator, but no way she'll pay $175-$250, so screw it, i'll do it
myself. i have the sevin now and the duster. just waiting for dark.
cost about $40 for the two.



$40? It should have only cost a few dollars for the sevin, and 99¢ for a
turkey baster. (I usually don't bother with the turkey baster and just
throw a pinch of insecticide powder down the YJ hole with my fingers.)

I killed a huge nest of them that way a couple of years ago. They were
under the neighbor's sidewalk (I don't know how they just appeared there
suddenly) and they were stinging passers-by. The neighbor tried burning
them out with gasoline and was lucky he didn't set himself on fire. It
just ****ed off the YJ's, and *maybe* killed a couple of them. I waited
until almost dark and threw about a teaspoon of methoxychlor dust (a
general purpose farm insecicide sometimes used on cattle) in the crack
where they were going in and out. The next day, there were no more wasps.

I'm sure the $30-something duster you bought will do a good job too...

Bob


i wasnt getting any closer than i had to, no way i could get up there with a
turkey baster (i thought of that) without a ladder. besides, im sending
the bill to the landlord anyway, she's paying for the $35 duster. the way i
look at it, i just saved her around $200.



Rob 14-09-2004 01:37 AM


"Pat Jordan" wrote in message
...
Yellow jackets won't swarm after the sun goes down. The best way to
destroy
a nest is pour gasoline in the hole and light it. I know you can't do
that
where your nest is located, so I guess your other alternative is to have
your landlord bring in an exterminator.



mr. fire inspector, i was just trying to kill the bees, not torch the house.
no, really, i'm not an arsonist!!! :)



Cereus-validus 14-09-2004 01:59 AM

Have you been video taping all your antics trying to save money trying to do
this? You'd be a shoe-in to win the jackpot on America's Funniest Videos!!!
That's providing you don't kill yourself or cause your pregnant wife to have
a miscarriage in the process. This is starting to sound wackier that a
Laurel & Hardy movie!!!!


"Rob" wrote in message news:x2r1d.8241$sX2.1639@trndny09...

"zxcvbob" wrote in message
...
Rob wrote:
the landlord wanted to send her son to fix it. her son wanted to block
up the opening, disregarding the fact that the bees were coming out
another opening somewhere into the downstairs apartment. thankfully

the
son apparently forgot to "fix" things. we told the landlord we'd call

an
exterminator, but no way she'll pay $175-$250, so screw it, i'll do it
myself. i have the sevin now and the duster. just waiting for dark.
cost about $40 for the two.



$40? It should have only cost a few dollars for the sevin, and 99¢ for

a
turkey baster. (I usually don't bother with the turkey baster and just
throw a pinch of insecticide powder down the YJ hole with my fingers.)

I killed a huge nest of them that way a couple of years ago. They were
under the neighbor's sidewalk (I don't know how they just appeared there
suddenly) and they were stinging passers-by. The neighbor tried burning
them out with gasoline and was lucky he didn't set himself on fire. It
just ****ed off the YJ's, and *maybe* killed a couple of them. I waited
until almost dark and threw about a teaspoon of methoxychlor dust (a
general purpose farm insecicide sometimes used on cattle) in the crack
where they were going in and out. The next day, there were no more

wasps.

I'm sure the $30-something duster you bought will do a good job too...

Bob


i wasnt getting any closer than i had to, no way i could get up there with

a
turkey baster (i thought of that) without a ladder. besides, im sending
the bill to the landlord anyway, she's paying for the $35 duster. the way

i
look at it, i just saved her around $200.





Hound Dog 14-09-2004 08:44 AM


"Rob" wrote in message news:Xsh1d.7852$sX2.6348@trndny09...

"zxcvbob" wrote in message
...
Rob wrote:

yes, yes, i like to learn to do things myself though if it's reasonable
to do so before just picking up a phone and writing a check.



If you really gotta kill 'em, use just about any insecticide dust or
powder (not granules), and toss a goodly pinch in the hole. (best to do
it in the evening) Sevin dust ought to work well, but it's not always a
good choice because it stains.


Bob


thanks, i have no choice, they are chasing me and my pregnant wife
whenever we come in
and out of the house and have already stung the downstairs neighbor. i've
called a bunch
of exterminators and they're all quoting me $175-$250 since the nest isn't
visable (who the
heck would call for a visable nest when Raid is $5 a can). I'll see if I
can find a place with
Sevin dust and give it a shot myself.


Why do you have to come up with all the money and do the work by yourself?
Your down stair neighbor should split the cost and the work with you, or go
in half on the cost of having the work done professionally.

I think the guy that advised you to get a professional exterminator gave you
the right advice. You are about to take on a job that you really are not
qualified to do. Subjecting a pregnant wife to chemicals is also a very dumb
thing to do.

If I were you I would get several bids, call in the cheapest one, have the
work done then submit the bill to your landlord and neighbor.






Rob 14-09-2004 05:28 PM


"Rob" wrote in message news:x2r1d.8241$sX2.1639@trndny09...

"zxcvbob" wrote in message
...
Rob wrote:
the landlord wanted to send her son to fix it. her son wanted to block
up the opening, disregarding the fact that the bees were coming out
another opening somewhere into the downstairs apartment. thankfully the
son apparently forgot to "fix" things. we told the landlord we'd call
an exterminator, but no way she'll pay $175-$250, so screw it, i'll do
it myself. i have the sevin now and the duster. just waiting for dark.
cost about $40 for the two.



$40? It should have only cost a few dollars for the sevin, and 99¢ for a
turkey baster. (I usually don't bother with the turkey baster and just
throw a pinch of insecticide powder down the YJ hole with my fingers.)

I killed a huge nest of them that way a couple of years ago. They were
under the neighbor's sidewalk (I don't know how they just appeared there
suddenly) and they were stinging passers-by. The neighbor tried burning
them out with gasoline and was lucky he didn't set himself on fire. It
just ****ed off the YJ's, and *maybe* killed a couple of them. I waited
until almost dark and threw about a teaspoon of methoxychlor dust (a
general purpose farm insecicide sometimes used on cattle) in the crack
where they were going in and out. The next day, there were no more
wasps.

I'm sure the $30-something duster you bought will do a good job too...

Bob


i wasnt getting any closer than i had to, no way i could get up there with
a turkey baster (i thought of that) without a ladder. besides, im sending
the bill to the landlord anyway, she's paying for the $35 duster. the way
i look at it, i just saved her around $200.


thanks much, no bees anywhere in sight today :).



[email protected] 15-09-2004 12:16 AM

On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 20:38:22 GMT, "Rob" wrote:

somewhere under the eaves of my house on the first floor is a nest. the
yellow jackets swarm all over the area and are starting to chase me and my
wife when we come in and out of the house (its a duplex, we're on the second
floor). they are also starting to get into the neighbors house on the first
floor. i cant see the nest, ive sprayed a couple of cans of raid into the
hole in the wood they are flying in and out of, but no luck. i cant plug up
the hole or they'll all just use the exit into our neighbors house. what do
i need to kill them? thanks!

Just stick a broomstick in there and swirl it all around.

Sorry, I couldn't resist:)

A couple of years ago I was walking past one of my shrubs, right next
to the sidewalk leading to the back of my house, when I saw a bees
nest inside it larger then my head. Shows how observant I am since I
walk by there all the time and I didn't notice it till it got that
big. It was weird. The hairs on the back of my neck raised up seeing
a bees nest that large, though I'm not normally bothered by flying
stinging critters.

I decided to leave it alone till the middle of winter, when during a
freezing cold day, I went out and whacked it good with a stick and
tossed the remnants into some faraway shrubs. I half expected to see
cold, sleepy, but angry bees shake themselves awake and come after me.

Course that won't help you with your hole. I'd either toss a bug bomb
of some sorts in there, or get a pro, leaning towards the later.

Swyck

FarmerDill 15-09-2004 03:08 PM

Are you sure that you are dealing with yellow jackets? Thery are usually ground
nesters.

[email protected] 15-09-2004 03:28 PM

call local ag center I am sure there are bee keepers will come and get a nest that
size. bees use their honey all winter, they keep their wings going to heat up the
hive and on the inside they are still busy.
http://www.wcfarms.com/honey_bees.html
Ingrid

A couple of years ago I was walking past one of my shrubs, right next
to the sidewalk leading to the back of my house, when I saw a bees
nest inside it larger then my head.


I half expected to see
cold, sleepy, but angry bees shake themselves awake and come after me.




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Happybattles 18-09-2004 07:35 PM

Sevin Dust is probably not the best thing to use. Greenlight is
pretty good. The 0.05% concentration of Deltamethrin has a very low
toxicity to humans.

If you can go three weeks without seeing any yellowjackets, PLUG THE
HOLE THEY USED TO GET IN! If you don't, six months from now, when
most of the Sevin has blown away, a new colony will move in, attracted
by the smell of the old ones.

I have to kill wasps, bees and yellowjackets in soffits several times
a year (professional exterminator). I usually go there when it's
convienent for the homeowner or resident, which is usually about 9am.

Needless to say, I wear a bee-suit. In treating bees I use Wasp
Freeze, Delta Dust, Diatomacious Earth, Lesco Flushing Agent and if
it's a commercial building I may use Drione.

If you ever get bees, you MUST have the honeycomb removed within two
weeks! If you don't, it'll melt, ruining your walls, carpet and
friendship with your neighbor. Then come the ants... millions of
them. Then come lots of stray bees who can smell the honey...

Always best to let a professional do it and take responsiblity for it.

Try alt.consumers.pest-control for more information.

Rose 26-09-2004 02:50 AM


A couple of years ago I was walking past one of my shrubs, right next
to the sidewalk leading to the back of my house, when I saw a bees
nest inside it larger then my head. Shows how observant I am since I
walk by there all the time and I didn't notice it till it got that
big. It was weird. The hairs on the back of my neck raised up seeing
a bees nest that large, though I'm not normally bothered by flying
stinging critters.

I decided to leave it alone till the middle of winter, when during a
freezing cold day, I went out and whacked it good with a stick and
tossed the remnants into some faraway shrubs. I half expected to see
cold, sleepy, but angry bees shake themselves awake and come after me.

Course that won't help you with your hole. I'd either toss a bug bomb
of some sorts in there, or get a pro, leaning towards the later.

Swyck

Actually that was the same thing that I was thinking of doing. The bees have
somehow managed to get into one of the cushions of the porch furniture. Now I
went thru that "Laurel and Hardy" moment when I covered myself up and tried to
get the cushions off the furniture frame so that I could somehow dump it with
the trash but it is going to take some effort - so I decided to wait until it
get cold (and I do mean COLD!) before I get rid of the cushion.



Rose
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"How did I ever get talked into this?"

Beecrofter 26-09-2004 07:03 PM

I have always felt that the folks who can't tell a bee from a wasp
grew up to be the hunters who couldn't tell a cow from a buck.


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