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IntarsiaCo 08-11-2004 11:35 AM

Rove speaks to Granny and Ratgurl during victory lap on NBC
 
MR. RUSSERT: Towards the end of the campaign, the president reaffirmed his
opposition to gay marriage, but said he was open to civil unions. Would he
support federal legislation to honor and respect civil unions with gay couples?

MR. ROVE: Well, my understanding is is that he was referring to civil
relationships defined at a state level. He clearly believes that states have
the right to define such things as the right to visitation in the hospital or
inheritance rights or benefit rights. Those ought to be up to states. But he
does believe very fervently that 5,000 years of human history should not be
overthrown by the acts of a few liberal judges or by the acts of a few local
elected officials. Marriage is and should be defined as being between one man
and one woman.

MR. RUSSERT: But no federal law for civil unions?

MR. ROVE: He believes that the definition of relationships ought to be left up
to the states and that proper protections can be put in place for the right to
visit in the hospital or the right to inherit or other legal contractual
questions like that.

Pass the marshmallows.



[email protected] 08-11-2004 03:48 PM

better take a closer look at what marriage was really for during those 5K years...
starting with "for procreation" (BTW, that is the definition in China). So nobody
should get married that dont want children, and menopausal women shouldnt marry
either, nor barren ones.
for most of those 5K years marriage was simply the transfer of ownership of women
from father to husband. women and children were chattel no more than slaves.
oh, and let us not forget polygamy.
Ingrid


But he does believe very fervently that 5,000 years of human history should not be
overthrown by the acts of a few liberal judges or by the acts of a few local
elected officials. Marriage is and should be defined as being between one man
and one woman.



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IntarsiaCo 08-11-2004 04:23 PM

marriage was simply the transfer of ownership of women
from father to husband. women and children were chattel no more than slaves.

oh, and let us not forget polygamy.


Maybe in your tribal clan. Some of us are civilized.

So nobody
should get married that dont want children,


Is that english?

J. Del Col 08-11-2004 07:49 PM

(IntarsiaCo) wrote in message ...
MR. RUSSERT: Towards the end of the campaign, the president reaffirmed his
opposition to gay marriage, but said he was open to civil unions. Would he
support federal legislation to honor and respect civil unions with gay couples?

MR. ROVE: Well, my understanding is is that he was referring to civil
relationships defined at a state level. He clearly believes that states have
the right to define such things as the right to visitation in the hospital or
inheritance rights or benefit rights. Those ought to be up to states. But he
does believe very fervently that 5,000 years of human history should not be
overthrown by the acts of a few liberal judges or by the acts of a few local
elected officials. Marriage is and should be defined as being between one man
and one woman.





"King David and King Solomon led merry, merry lives,
With many, many lady friends and many, many wives...."


J. Del Col

IntarsiaCo 08-11-2004 08:38 PM

"King David and King Solomon led merry, merry lives,
With many, many lady friends and many, many wives...."


"The first bond of society is marriage."

Salty Thumb 09-11-2004 12:21 AM

(IntarsiaCo) wrote in news:20041108153830.06333.00000284
@mb-m18.aol.com:

"King David and King Solomon led merry, merry lives,
With many, many lady friends and many, many wives...."


"The first bond of society is marriage."


"The first rule of government is kill anyone who doesn't agree with you."

Ann 09-11-2004 10:15 AM

Salty Thumb expounded:

"The first rule of government is kill anyone who doesn't agree with you."


Which is exactly what will happen once the terrorists win.

--
Ann, Gardening in zone 6a
Just south of Boston, MA
********************************

J. Del Col 09-11-2004 05:22 PM

Ann wrote in message . ..
Salty Thumb expounded:

"The first rule of government is kill anyone who doesn't agree with you."


Which is exactly what will happen once the terrorists win.


But surely, Howdy Dubya will smite them with the Lord's righteousness, won't he?

J. Del Col

Salty Thumb 10-11-2004 04:10 AM

Ann wrote in news:2561p0lbdru4kai8tfrnemv8iqq1bdajti@
4ax.com:

Salty Thumb expounded:

"The first rule of government is kill anyone who doesn't agree with you."


Which is exactly what will happen once the terrorists win.


In that case the "terrorists" have already "won". You are just looking at
the wrong scoreboard.

Lee 10-11-2004 05:19 AM

(J. Del Col) wrote in message om...
Ann wrote in message . ..
Salty Thumb expounded:

"The first rule of government is kill anyone who doesn't agree with you."


Which is exactly what will happen once the terrorists win.


But surely, Howdy Dubya will smite them with the Lord's righteousness, won't he?

J. Del Col


that's what scares me.. that those who disagree with the coming
changes may be called traitors and 'smitted.' the escalations of
outsourcing, the influx of more and more aliens, the threat of
privatizing SS and worse the threatened changes to our Constitution. I
have a number of great grandchildren and am really concerned that
Warolds (sp) 1984 is more than coming true. "war is peace, ugly is
beautiful, even history being rewritten" some of it should be
re-written as much of the history we were taught in school back when,
was lies and many attrocities swept under the rug, so to speak. I
think the "conservatives" have, with all their riches, have gained too
much power for a true democracy to survive. I just hope i am wrong..
pray that i am wrong.
--leo/lee

Vox Humana 10-11-2004 04:49 PM


"J. Del Col" wrote in message
m...
Ann wrote in message

. ..
Salty Thumb expounded:

"The first rule of government is kill anyone who doesn't agree with

you."

Which is exactly what will happen once the terrorists win.


But surely, Howdy Dubya will smite them with the Lord's righteousness,

won't he?

I think that's were the trouble starts. I have no problem with people
believing that their god will smite me. I say let god do his/her own work.




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