Cantaloupe - plant from fruit seeds
Hi,
I live in Thailnad where it is not easy to just order things like fruit seeds. Could someone point me to a site or explain just what I need to prepare cantaloupe seeds from a fruit for planting? Thanks, Peter |
No preparation needed. This last summer I purchased a cantaloupe, brought
it home, ate it, through the seeds out onto my compost heap...2 weeks later I had a at least 50 cantaloupe seedlings. Brigitte "Peter" wrote in message om... Hi, I live in Thailnad where it is not easy to just order things like fruit seeds. Could someone point me to a site or explain just what I need to prepare cantaloupe seeds from a fruit for planting? Thanks, Peter |
As Brigitte said, no prep is needed for planting. For storage though, you
should rinse them off and dry thoroughly for a week or two. Another issue: Somewhere in the past 20 years, I recall reading that squash & melons are the whores of the vegetable world. They inter-pollinate freely, and some of the results can cause stomach upset. Not sure how accurate this is, but you might not want to keep saving seeds from LOTS of subsequent generations, especially if the fruits seem to be mutating in interesting ways. "Peter" wrote in message om... Hi, I live in Thailnad where it is not easy to just order things like fruit seeds. Could someone point me to a site or explain just what I need to prepare cantaloupe seeds from a fruit for planting? Thanks, Peter |
Now come on Brigitte,
Don't forget to tell him about the secret fertility dance you did to ensure germination and a good harvest. Or do you want to keep the ritual a secret from casual lurkers in the group? Did you substitute a bucket of KFC for sacrificing a live chicken? Or do you prefer Popeye's? "Brigitte" wrote in message ... No preparation needed. This last summer I purchased a cantaloupe, brought it home, ate it, through the seeds out onto my compost heap...2 weeks later I had a at least 50 cantaloupe seedlings. Brigitte "Peter" wrote in message om... Hi, I live in Thailnad where it is not easy to just order things like fruit seeds. Could someone point me to a site or explain just what I need to prepare cantaloupe seeds from a fruit for planting? Thanks, Peter |
For a moment, I thought you were about to describe a REALLY interesting
fertility dance once described to me by a woman I've known since college. It involved a vegetable garden, but the rest....you'll have to coax it out of me. "Cereus-validus..." wrote in message . com... Now come on Brigitte, Don't forget to tell him about the secret fertility dance you did to ensure germination and a good harvest. Or do you want to keep the ritual a secret from casual lurkers in the group? Did you substitute a bucket of KFC for sacrificing a live chicken? Or do you prefer Popeye's? "Brigitte" wrote in message ... No preparation needed. This last summer I purchased a cantaloupe, brought it home, ate it, through the seeds out onto my compost heap...2 weeks later I had a at least 50 cantaloupe seedlings. Brigitte "Peter" wrote in message om... Hi, I live in Thailnad where it is not easy to just order things like fruit seeds. Could someone point me to a site or explain just what I need to prepare cantaloupe seeds from a fruit for planting? Thanks, Peter |
Hmmm. Maybe you should describe the fertility dance you heard first?
If it is some sorority thing involving fresh produce and young co-eds dancing around wearing nothing but their panties, it could be interesting!!!! The garden probably had it bumper crops, if you know what I mean!!! ;-) "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... For a moment, I thought you were about to describe a REALLY interesting fertility dance once described to me by a woman I've known since college. It involved a vegetable garden, but the rest....you'll have to coax it out of me. "Cereus-validus..." wrote in message . com... Now come on Brigitte, Don't forget to tell him about the secret fertility dance you did to ensure germination and a good harvest. Or do you want to keep the ritual a secret from casual lurkers in the group? Did you substitute a bucket of KFC for sacrificing a live chicken? Or do you prefer Popeye's? "Brigitte" wrote in message ... No preparation needed. This last summer I purchased a cantaloupe, brought it home, ate it, through the seeds out onto my compost heap...2 weeks later I had a at least 50 cantaloupe seedlings. Brigitte "Peter" wrote in message om... Hi, I live in Thailnad where it is not easy to just order things like fruit seeds. Could someone point me to a site or explain just what I need to prepare cantaloupe seeds from a fruit for planting? Thanks, Peter |
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"Cereus-validus..." wrote: Hmmm. Maybe you should describe the fertility dance you heard first? If it is some sorority thing involving fresh produce and young co-eds dancing around wearing nothing but their panties, it could be interesting!!!! If the ladder won't reach the window of the sorority, then you can't elope. -paghat the ratgirl -- "Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher. "Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature. -from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers" Visit the Garden of Paghat the Ratgirl: http://www.paghat.com |
OK. I'm coaxed. I initially thought it was weird, but after thinking about
the recent election, NOTHING seems weird any more. This involved drizzling menstrual blood on the garden. This friend was involved with some kind of interesting Wiccan / New Age crew in Colorado, and this ceremony was supposed to produce 40' tall corn, etc. It didn't, but it was still interesting to find out what my old friend had been doing since we last spoke. "Cereus-validus..." wrote in message . com... Hmmm. Maybe you should describe the fertility dance you heard first? If it is some sorority thing involving fresh produce and young co-eds dancing around wearing nothing but their panties, it could be interesting!!!! The garden probably had it bumper crops, if you know what I mean!!! ;-) "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... For a moment, I thought you were about to describe a REALLY interesting fertility dance once described to me by a woman I've known since college. It involved a vegetable garden, but the rest....you'll have to coax it out of me. "Cereus-validus..." wrote in message . com... Now come on Brigitte, Don't forget to tell him about the secret fertility dance you did to ensure germination and a good harvest. Or do you want to keep the ritual a secret from casual lurkers in the group? Did you substitute a bucket of KFC for sacrificing a live chicken? Or do you prefer Popeye's? "Brigitte" wrote in message ... No preparation needed. This last summer I purchased a cantaloupe, brought it home, ate it, through the seeds out onto my compost heap...2 weeks later I had a at least 50 cantaloupe seedlings. Brigitte "Peter" wrote in message om... Hi, I live in Thailnad where it is not easy to just order things like fruit seeds. Could someone point me to a site or explain just what I need to prepare cantaloupe seeds from a fruit for planting? Thanks, Peter |
Now I'm not surprised that Colorado voted for Bush in the last election.
That University of Colorado must be a wilder place than I ever imagined. If the corn grew to 40', I'm afraid to ponder how long the cucumbers were! :-o "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... OK. I'm coaxed. I initially thought it was weird, but after thinking about the recent election, NOTHING seems weird any more. This involved drizzling menstrual blood on the garden. This friend was involved with some kind of interesting Wiccan / New Age crew in Colorado, and this ceremony was supposed to produce 40' tall corn, etc. It didn't, but it was still interesting to find out what my old friend had been doing since we last spoke. "Cereus-validus..." wrote in message . com... Hmmm. Maybe you should describe the fertility dance you heard first? If it is some sorority thing involving fresh produce and young co-eds dancing around wearing nothing but their panties, it could be interesting!!!! The garden probably had it bumper crops, if you know what I mean!!! ;-) "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... For a moment, I thought you were about to describe a REALLY interesting fertility dance once described to me by a woman I've known since college. It involved a vegetable garden, but the rest....you'll have to coax it out of me. "Cereus-validus..." wrote in message . com... Now come on Brigitte, Don't forget to tell him about the secret fertility dance you did to ensure germination and a good harvest. Or do you want to keep the ritual a secret from casual lurkers in the group? Did you substitute a bucket of KFC for sacrificing a live chicken? Or do you prefer Popeye's? "Brigitte" wrote in message ... No preparation needed. This last summer I purchased a cantaloupe, brought it home, ate it, through the seeds out onto my compost heap...2 weeks later I had a at least 50 cantaloupe seedlings. Brigitte "Peter" wrote in message om... Hi, I live in Thailnad where it is not easy to just order things like fruit seeds. Could someone point me to a site or explain just what I need to prepare cantaloupe seeds from a fruit for planting? Thanks, Peter |
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ...
As Brigitte said, no prep is needed for planting. For storage though, you should rinse them off and dry thoroughly for a week or two. Another issue: Somewhere in the past 20 years, I recall reading that squash & melons are the whores of the vegetable world. They inter-pollinate freely, and some of the results can cause stomach upset. Not sure how accurate this is, but you might not want to keep saving seeds from LOTS of subsequent generations, especially if the fruits seem to be mutating in interesting ways. The seeds will almost certainly not come true, though they will be cantaloupe. After all, the cantaloupe itself came from a field full of cantaloupes, so no matter how promiscuous, it was with other cantaloupes. But the progeny will be not as good tasting as the original, they tend to be almost exclusively hybrids. In my compost pile, cantaloupe is the single most troublesome weed, no need to do anything to the seeds. "Peter" wrote in message om... Hi, I live in Thailnad where it is not easy to just order things like fruit seeds. Could someone point me to a site or explain just what I need to prepare cantaloupe seeds from a fruit for planting? Thanks, Peter |
"Doug Kanter" wrote in
: For a moment, I thought you were about to describe a REALLY interesting fertility dance once described to me by a woman I've known since college. It involved a vegetable garden, but the rest....you'll have to coax it out of me. I don't know what the big deal is. I mean who hasn't overheard a couple of sorority girls talk about how to make their melons bigger. |
Your other repliers already warned you about the hybridity of commercial
cantaloup seed. They aren't true hybrids, they are "F1 hybrids" (usually), which is almost the opposite in meaning of a true hybrid. They are not crosses of 2 different species, but on the contrary highly in-bred. The breeders in-breed several different families (so to speak) for several generations, then out-breed the offspring. This does two things: any "bad" genetic traits tend to show up (they are less likely to remain hidden in recessive alleles) because they are so highly inbred. This is like the propensity of some of the royal families in Europe to have hemophilia. The bad traits are weeded out, and after a few generations you get rid of most of them. Then the different inbred strains are crossed with each other, which tends to cover up any remaining weaknesses to produce what is called "hybrid vigor". The generations of inbreeding also tend to produce extremely uniform plants, which the farmers like, because they are fairly predictable in terms of size, color, maturity, quality, etc. The next generation, that you will be planting, are called "F2". They will be more variable, although are often quite good and the seed is much cheaper than F1. Save the seeds from your favorite fruits of your favorite plants, and just keep doing this from generation to generation. They will eventually stabilize. As for real hybrids, yes you do have to keep different kinds of melons separate or you can end up with hybrid melons with odd, "muddy" flavors. Bon appetit. Atar Peter wrote: Hi, I live in Thailnad where it is not easy to just order things like fruit seeds. Could someone point me to a site or explain just what I need to prepare cantaloupe seeds from a fruit for planting? Thanks, Peter -- Visit my blog at http://wildestdreamsofkew.blogspot.com. |
Hybrids do not need to be crosses between two species. They can be anything
from crosses between two genera to two different inbred lines of the same species. An F1 hybrid simply means it is the first filial generation of a hybrid cross. Hybrid vigor is the result of complimentary heterozygosity from crossing two different cultivar lines. However, the crossing of two different cultivar lines does not always result in hybrid vigor. A plant family is a completely different entity from an inbred cultivar line of a species. The reason that most melons can interbreed so freely is they represent different cultivar groups (inbred lines) of the same species. "Atar" wrote in message ... Your other repliers already warned you about the hybridity of commercial cantaloup seed. They aren't true hybrids, they are "F1 hybrids" (usually), which is almost the opposite in meaning of a true hybrid. They are not crosses of 2 different species, but on the contrary highly in-bred. The breeders in-breed several different families (so to speak) for several generations, then out-breed the offspring. This does two things: any "bad" genetic traits tend to show up (they are less likely to remain hidden in recessive alleles) because they are so highly inbred. This is like the propensity of some of the royal families in Europe to have hemophilia. The bad traits are weeded out, and after a few generations you get rid of most of them. Then the different inbred strains are crossed with each other, which tends to cover up any remaining weaknesses to produce what is called "hybrid vigor". The generations of inbreeding also tend to produce extremely uniform plants, which the farmers like, because they are fairly predictable in terms of size, color, maturity, quality, etc. The next generation, that you will be planting, are called "F2". They will be more variable, although are often quite good and the seed is much cheaper than F1. Save the seeds from your favorite fruits of your favorite plants, and just keep doing this from generation to generation. They will eventually stabilize. As for real hybrids, yes you do have to keep different kinds of melons separate or you can end up with hybrid melons with odd, "muddy" flavors. Bon appetit. Atar Peter wrote: Hi, I live in Thailnad where it is not easy to just order things like fruit seeds. Could someone point me to a site or explain just what I need to prepare cantaloupe seeds from a fruit for planting? Thanks, Peter -- Visit my blog at http://wildestdreamsofkew.blogspot.com. |
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