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Doug Kanter 01-12-2004 05:15 PM

Wanted: Deadly, Thorny Shrub
 
.....to plant this spring in a spot where disgusting dog owners like to stop
their filthy beasts on my property. Shrub must be capable of inflicting
enough damage to send the dog to the vet. I'm thinking of barberry. Open to
suggestions for other shrub options. The planting spot receives sun for
about 2/3 of the day, and will be buried in snow for 3 months out of the
year.



Ricky 01-12-2004 06:04 PM

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
....to plant this spring in a spot where disgusting dog owners like to

stop
their filthy beasts on my property. Shrub must be capable of inflicting
enough damage to send the dog to the vet. I'm thinking of barberry. Open

to
suggestions for other shrub options. The planting spot receives sun for
about 2/3 of the day, and will be buried in snow for 3 months out of the
year.


Shame about the snow. I was going to recommend several large variegated
Agave but I don't know if they'll handle snow for 3 months. How about barbed
wire on some bamboo poles?



Doug Kanter 01-12-2004 06:14 PM


"Ricky" wrote in message
...
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
....to plant this spring in a spot where disgusting dog owners like to

stop
their filthy beasts on my property. Shrub must be capable of inflicting
enough damage to send the dog to the vet. I'm thinking of barberry. Open

to
suggestions for other shrub options. The planting spot receives sun for
about 2/3 of the day, and will be buried in snow for 3 months out of the
year.


Shame about the snow. I was going to recommend several large variegated
Agave but I don't know if they'll handle snow for 3 months. How about

barbed
wire on some bamboo poles?



Barbed wire might appear to have been installed with the goal of
intentionally injuring the dogs. snicker



Jim Carlock 01-12-2004 07:05 PM

"Doug Kanter" asked about:
something to stop filthy beasts...


I don't know where this idea came from...

A small battery operated fan attached to a motion sensor
that is attached to a small contraption of cheyenne and
black pepper. If the spritz doesn't shoot up too high, I'm
thinking along the lines that ONLY the dog will get whiff
of it and thus if it's hidden well enough, people won't be
apt to steal it.

Or even better yet, get some oil of mating for dogs and
put it on something off your property where you can get
odd pictures of dogs and neighbors... if there's a remote
controlled spritzing device you can spritz the legs of the
neighbors...

Hmm. I bet such an item would sell and could be patented.

--
Jim Carlock
Post replies to newsgroup.



Paul E. Lehmann 01-12-2004 07:07 PM

Doug Kanter wrote:

....to plant this spring in a spot where disgusting dog owners like to
stop their filthy beasts on my property. Shrub must be capable of
inflicting enough damage to send the dog to the vet. I'm thinking of
barberry. Open to suggestions for other shrub options. The planting spot
receives sun for about 2/3 of the day, and will be buried in snow for 3
months out of the year.


What about Pyrocantha

Doug Kanter 01-12-2004 07:15 PM


"Paul E. Lehmann" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:

....to plant this spring in a spot where disgusting dog owners like to
stop their filthy beasts on my property. Shrub must be capable of
inflicting enough damage to send the dog to the vet. I'm thinking of
barberry. Open to suggestions for other shrub options. The planting spot
receives sun for about 2/3 of the day, and will be buried in snow for 3
months out of the year.


What about Pyrocantha


Thanks for the tip. Looks like an attractive plant, too.



Chelsea Christenson 01-12-2004 07:30 PM

Doug Kanter wrote:
....to plant this spring in a spot where disgusting dog owners like to stop
their filthy beasts on my property. Shrub must be capable of inflicting
enough damage to send the dog to the vet.


The dogs aren't deciding where to stop. Mutilate the owners.


paghat 01-12-2004 07:37 PM

In article , wrote:

Doug Kanter wrote:

....to plant this spring in a spot where disgusting dog owners like to
stop their filthy beasts on my property. Shrub must be capable of
inflicting enough damage to send the dog to the vet. I'm thinking of
barberry. Open to suggestions for other shrub options. The planting spot
receives sun for about 2/3 of the day, and will be buried in snow for 3
months out of the year.


What about Pyrocantha


I'd think that'd be the best choice. A very pretty "wall" could be grown
of mixed shrubbs starting with pyrocantha as about the biggest thing.
There are hundreds of varieties of hawthorns, some have three to five inch
spikes, most of which would do very well in places with very cold winters
& lots of snow. Barberry bushes & rugosa roses are good intermediate-sized
impenetrable shrubs, euphorbia crown-of-thorns for something shorter, &
vicious groundcovers like some creeping rubra species, or
smilex/greenbriar, or dwarf crimson barberry. A natural barrier of spiky
plants could be very beautiful, flowery, & winter-berried for year-round
color, though one would require enough room in one's yard to steer pretty
clear of it while relaxing, & buy some gardening armor come pruning time.

-paghat the ratgirl

--
"Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher.
"Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature.
-from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers"
Visit the Garden of Paghat the Ratgirl:
http://www.paghat.com

Doug Kanter 01-12-2004 07:44 PM


"Chelsea Christenson" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
....to plant this spring in a spot where disgusting dog owners like to

stop
their filthy beasts on my property. Shrub must be capable of inflicting
enough damage to send the dog to the vet.


The dogs aren't deciding where to stop. Mutilate the owners.


Great idea, but unfortunately, I'm not always around to greet the assholes.
I'm home today, though, and saw something unbelievable. A slimeball was
walking her dog. She began with the usual routine - letting her dog
investigate the edge of my neighbor's lawn where it meets the street. Then,
she wandered RIGHT INTO THE MIDDLE of a 50' deep lawn, let the dog crap, and
cleaned it up. Where the hell do some dog owners get the idea that this sort
of thing is acceptable???



zxcvbob 01-12-2004 07:52 PM

Doug Kanter wrote:

....to plant this spring in a spot where disgusting dog owners like to stop
their filthy beasts on my property. Shrub must be capable of inflicting
enough damage to send the dog to the vet. I'm thinking of barberry. Open to
suggestions for other shrub options. The planting spot receives sun for
about 2/3 of the day, and will be buried in snow for 3 months out of the
year.



Gorse, common hawthorn, or sloe would do it. Also probably some of the
hedge roses, or bois d' arc if you prune it into a shrub form.

I'm not sure if honey locust can be grown as a shrub.

Best regards,
Bob

Doug Kanter 01-12-2004 07:53 PM


"paghat" wrote in message
...
In article , wrote:

Doug Kanter wrote:

....to plant this spring in a spot where disgusting dog owners like to
stop their filthy beasts on my property. Shrub must be capable of
inflicting enough damage to send the dog to the vet. I'm thinking of
barberry. Open to suggestions for other shrub options. The planting

spot
receives sun for about 2/3 of the day, and will be buried in snow for

3
months out of the year.


What about Pyrocantha


I'd think that'd be the best choice. A very pretty "wall" could be grown
of mixed shrubbs starting with pyrocantha as about the biggest thing.
There are hundreds of varieties of hawthorns, some have three to five inch
spikes, most of which would do very well in places with very cold winters
& lots of snow. Barberry bushes & rugosa roses are good intermediate-sized
impenetrable shrubs, euphorbia crown-of-thorns for something shorter, &
vicious groundcovers like some creeping rubra species, or
smilex/greenbriar, or dwarf crimson barberry. A natural barrier of spiky
plants could be very beautiful, flowery, & winter-berried for year-round
color, though one would require enough room in one's yard to steer pretty
clear of it while relaxing, & buy some gardening armor come pruning time.


Rugosa! I lived with a 20' row of those for as many years and loved them. I
keep forgetting.

The spot in question is about 50' from the house, on a street corner.
There's a street sign, and the town could, in theory, say they need access
to it regularly, but I wasn't planning on consulting with them. Anyway...to
narrow the choices a bit: I used to have a monster of a barberry next to my
garage. It was 8 feet high and 5 feet wide. If I needed to paint, or clean
the gutters, I used to squeeze the barberry into a smaller "form"
temporarily by wrapping it in Romex - the wire you find running through the
walls of most houses. If the town ever needed to do whatever towns do to
street signs (like assign 5 guys at $45 per hour to wax it), I'd need a
plant rugged enough to be imprisoned and squeezed like I did with the
barberry.



Hound Dog 01-12-2004 09:50 PM


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"Chelsea Christenson" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
....to plant this spring in a spot where disgusting dog owners like to

stop
their filthy beasts on my property. Shrub must be capable of inflicting
enough damage to send the dog to the vet.


The dogs aren't deciding where to stop. Mutilate the owners.


Great idea, but unfortunately, I'm not always around to greet the
assholes.
I'm home today, though, and saw something unbelievable. A slimeball was
walking her dog. She began with the usual routine - letting her dog
investigate the edge of my neighbor's lawn where it meets the street.
Then,
she wandered RIGHT INTO THE MIDDLE of a 50' deep lawn, let the dog crap,
and
cleaned it up. Where the hell do some dog owners get the idea that this
sort
of thing is acceptable???


At least she cleaned up after her dog. Most would not have.

Home owners, if caught, should receive heavy fines for allowing their dogs
to use the neighborhood as a toilet.

Apartment buildings that permit tenants to have dogs should be required by
law to have a fenced in area where dogs must be walked.




Doug Kanter 01-12-2004 09:53 PM


"Hound Dog" wrote in message
...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"Chelsea Christenson" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
....to plant this spring in a spot where disgusting dog owners like

to
stop
their filthy beasts on my property. Shrub must be capable of

inflicting
enough damage to send the dog to the vet.

The dogs aren't deciding where to stop. Mutilate the owners.


Great idea, but unfortunately, I'm not always around to greet the
assholes.
I'm home today, though, and saw something unbelievable. A slimeball was
walking her dog. She began with the usual routine - letting her dog
investigate the edge of my neighbor's lawn where it meets the street.
Then,
she wandered RIGHT INTO THE MIDDLE of a 50' deep lawn, let the dog crap,
and
cleaned it up. Where the hell do some dog owners get the idea that this
sort
of thing is acceptable???


At least she cleaned up after her dog. Most would not have.


Yeah...but the middle of the damned lawn? Hey....why not just come right
into the house?





Home owners, if caught, should receive heavy fines for allowing their dogs
to use the neighborhood as a toilet.

Apartment buildings that permit tenants to have dogs should be required by
law to have a fenced in area where dogs must be walked.






Cheryl Isaak 01-12-2004 09:56 PM

On 12/1/04 4:50 PM, in article , "Hound
Dog" wrote:


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"Chelsea Christenson" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
....to plant this spring in a spot where disgusting dog owners like to

stop
their filthy beasts on my property. Shrub must be capable of inflicting
enough damage to send the dog to the vet.

The dogs aren't deciding where to stop. Mutilate the owners.


Great idea, but unfortunately, I'm not always around to greet the
assholes.
I'm home today, though, and saw something unbelievable. A slimeball was
walking her dog. She began with the usual routine - letting her dog
investigate the edge of my neighbor's lawn where it meets the street.
Then,
she wandered RIGHT INTO THE MIDDLE of a 50' deep lawn, let the dog crap,
and
cleaned it up. Where the hell do some dog owners get the idea that this
sort
of thing is acceptable???


At least she cleaned up after her dog. Most would not have.

Home owners, if caught, should receive heavy fines for allowing their dogs
to use the neighborhood as a toilet.

Apartment buildings that permit tenants to have dogs should be required by
law to have a fenced in area where dogs must be walked.





There is a real winner that walk a pair of little white things (we can them
the street rats). They've been fined multiple times for not cleaning up
after the dogs and have had animal control called on them countless more.
Hasn't changed a thing....

Cheryl


Christopher Green 01-12-2004 10:22 PM

zxcvbob wrote in message ...
Doug Kanter wrote:

....to plant this spring in a spot where disgusting dog owners like to stop
their filthy beasts on my property. Shrub must be capable of inflicting
enough damage to send the dog to the vet. I'm thinking of barberry. Open to
suggestions for other shrub options. The planting spot receives sun for
about 2/3 of the day, and will be buried in snow for 3 months out of the
year.



Gorse, common hawthorn, or sloe would do it. Also probably some of the
hedge roses, or bois d' arc if you prune it into a shrub form.

I'm not sure if honey locust can be grown as a shrub.

Best regards,
Bob


Watch out for gorse, it can become a major pest. It's officially a
noxious weed in many places.

Barberry and pyracantha are both good. Pick a fireblight-resistant
pyracantha. If minor cruelty to animals doesn't disturb you, birds
pigging out and getting drunk on pyracantha berries can be amusing.

--
Chris Green

Doug Kanter 01-12-2004 10:26 PM

"Cheryl Isaak" wrote in message
...
On 12/1/04 4:50 PM, in article , "Hound
Dog" wrote:


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"Chelsea Christenson" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
....to plant this spring in a spot where disgusting dog owners like

to
stop
their filthy beasts on my property. Shrub must be capable of

inflicting
enough damage to send the dog to the vet.

The dogs aren't deciding where to stop. Mutilate the owners.


Great idea, but unfortunately, I'm not always around to greet the
assholes.
I'm home today, though, and saw something unbelievable. A slimeball was
walking her dog. She began with the usual routine - letting her dog
investigate the edge of my neighbor's lawn where it meets the street.
Then,
she wandered RIGHT INTO THE MIDDLE of a 50' deep lawn, let the dog

crap,
and
cleaned it up. Where the hell do some dog owners get the idea that this
sort
of thing is acceptable???


At least she cleaned up after her dog. Most would not have.

Home owners, if caught, should receive heavy fines for allowing their

dogs
to use the neighborhood as a toilet.

Apartment buildings that permit tenants to have dogs should be required

by
law to have a fenced in area where dogs must be walked.





There is a real winner that walk a pair of little white things (we can

them
the street rats). They've been fined multiple times for not cleaning up
after the dogs and have had animal control called on them countless more.
Hasn't changed a thing....


Got a town judge you can talk to? Do it. Technically, those dog walkers are
guilty of civil trespass, although a judge won't enforce it unless she/he is
informed that the situation is about to get ugly. A judge with a brain will
provide an injunction which permits the cops to arrest the people for simply
setting foot on your lawn. Also works for people who think it's OK to douse
your side of the property line with hideous chemicals.



Cheryl Isaak 01-12-2004 11:08 PM

On 12/1/04 5:26 PM, in article , "Doug
Kanter" wrote:

"Cheryl Isaak" wrote in message
...


(SNIP)


There is a real winner that walk a pair of little white things (we can

them
the street rats). They've been fined multiple times for not cleaning up
after the dogs and have had animal control called on them countless more.
Hasn't changed a thing....


Got a town judge you can talk to? Do it. Technically, those dog walkers are
guilty of civil trespass, although a judge won't enforce it unless she/he is
informed that the situation is about to get ugly. A judge with a brain will
provide an injunction which permits the cops to arrest the people for simply
setting foot on your lawn. Also works for people who think it's OK to douse
your side of the property line with hideous chemicals.



It would have to go to the county IIRC and while I might think it worth it,
my lawn hasn't been anointed for quite some time. Right now they are
targeting other areas of the general neighborhood.

BTW - go with the rugosas - hardy, pretty, makes the birds happy and the
deer don't eat them.

Cheryl


Keith Copi 01-12-2004 11:36 PM


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
....to plant this spring in a spot where disgusting dog owners like to
stop
their filthy beasts on my property. Shrub must be capable of inflicting
enough damage to send the dog to the vet. I'm thinking of barberry. Open
to
suggestions for other shrub options. The planting spot receives sun for
about 2/3 of the day, and will be buried in snow for 3 months out of the
year.


I don't know if it will grow in your area but the nastiest thorns I've ever
seen are on hardy orange. Usually grown as a small tree, I've heard of it
being used as a hedge. It is a very attractive plant year round with
utterly vicious thorns. I believe it's hardy to zone 6. By the way, I
still laugh every time I think of that "pistol targets in fur jackets"
comment you made a few weeks back.

Keith



Vox Humana 02-12-2004 12:04 AM


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"paghat" wrote in message
...
In article ,

wrote:

Doug Kanter wrote:

....to plant this spring in a spot where disgusting dog owners like

to
stop their filthy beasts on my property. Shrub must be capable of
inflicting enough damage to send the dog to the vet. I'm thinking of
barberry. Open to suggestions for other shrub options. The planting


Rugosa! I lived with a 20' row of those for as many years and loved them.

I
keep forgetting.


I have been toying with the idea of planting some roses, probably rugosa
roses, to discourage kids from riding their bikes across my yard. There's
nothing quite as nasty as falling into a rose bush! I haven't had good luck
with pyrocantha and barberry isn't nasty enough in my opinion.



Robert Chambers 02-12-2004 12:34 AM

How about a "whomping willow" like the Harry Potter movies? That would
take care of dogs, kids, pretty much anything.

Vox Humana wrote:

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"paghat" wrote in message
...

In article ,


wrote:

Doug Kanter wrote:


....to plant this spring in a spot where disgusting dog owners like


to

stop their filthy beasts on my property. Shrub must be capable of
inflicting enough damage to send the dog to the vet. I'm thinking of
barberry. Open to suggestions for other shrub options. The planting



Rugosa! I lived with a 20' row of those for as many years and loved them.


I

keep forgetting.



I have been toying with the idea of planting some roses, probably rugosa
roses, to discourage kids from riding their bikes across my yard. There's
nothing quite as nasty as falling into a rose bush! I haven't had good luck
with pyrocantha and barberry isn't nasty enough in my opinion.



Vox Humana 02-12-2004 01:10 AM


"Robert Chambers" wrote in message
. com...
How about a "whomping willow" like the Harry Potter movies? That would
take care of dogs, kids, pretty much anything.


I'm probably the only person on earth who hasn't seen any of the Harry
Potter movies.



Doug Kanter 02-12-2004 01:39 AM


"Vox Humana" wrote in message
...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"paghat" wrote in message
...
In article ,

wrote:

Doug Kanter wrote:

....to plant this spring in a spot where disgusting dog owners

like
to
stop their filthy beasts on my property. Shrub must be capable of
inflicting enough damage to send the dog to the vet. I'm thinking

of
barberry. Open to suggestions for other shrub options. The

planting

Rugosa! I lived with a 20' row of those for as many years and loved

them.
I
keep forgetting.


I have been toying with the idea of planting some roses, probably rugosa
roses, to discourage kids from riding their bikes across my yard. There's
nothing quite as nasty as falling into a rose bush! I haven't had good

luck
with pyrocantha and barberry isn't nasty enough in my opinion.



My barberry would literally shred the sleeves of a flannel shirt if I dared
reach into it. Different variety, maybe. I didn't plant the original one -
it came with the house and might've been close to 50 years old.



Doug Kanter 02-12-2004 01:41 AM


"Cheryl Isaak" wrote in message
...
On 12/1/04 5:26 PM, in article , "Doug
Kanter" wrote:

"Cheryl Isaak" wrote in message
...


(SNIP)


There is a real winner that walk a pair of little white things (we can

them
the street rats). They've been fined multiple times for not cleaning

up
after the dogs and have had animal control called on them countless

more.
Hasn't changed a thing....


Got a town judge you can talk to? Do it. Technically, those dog walkers

are
guilty of civil trespass, although a judge won't enforce it unless

she/he is
informed that the situation is about to get ugly. A judge with a brain

will
provide an injunction which permits the cops to arrest the people for

simply
setting foot on your lawn. Also works for people who think it's OK to

douse
your side of the property line with hideous chemicals.



It would have to go to the county IIRC and while I might think it worth

it,
my lawn hasn't been anointed for quite some time. Right now they are
targeting other areas of the general neighborhood.

BTW - go with the rugosas - hardy, pretty, makes the birds happy and the
deer don't eat them.

Cheryl


I guess it depends on the neighborhood. Here, the town judges are the first
stop, county courts the second.

Rugosa sounds like a good choice. 2-3 nights a week when I step outside,
there are deer 20 feet from the door, and they stand there and stare at me
light I have a lot of nerve for invading their driveway. :-)



Doug Kanter 02-12-2004 01:42 AM


"Keith Copi" wrote in message
...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
....to plant this spring in a spot where disgusting dog owners like to
stop
their filthy beasts on my property. Shrub must be capable of inflicting
enough damage to send the dog to the vet. I'm thinking of barberry. Open
to
suggestions for other shrub options. The planting spot receives sun for
about 2/3 of the day, and will be buried in snow for 3 months out of the
year.


I don't know if it will grow in your area but the nastiest thorns I've

ever
seen are on hardy orange. Usually grown as a small tree, I've heard of it
being used as a hedge. It is a very attractive plant year round with
utterly vicious thorns. I believe it's hardy to zone 6. By the way, I
still laugh every time I think of that "pistol targets in fur jackets"
comment you made a few weeks back.

Keith



I'm glad you found that entertaining! Mostly, I get nasty comments from
people who think natural law dictates that I like their dogs.



Ed Clarke 02-12-2004 02:39 AM

In article , Vox Humana wrote:

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"paghat" wrote in message
...
In article ,

wrote:

Doug Kanter wrote:

....to plant this spring in a spot where disgusting dog owners like

to
stop their filthy beasts on my property. Shrub must be capable of
inflicting enough damage to send the dog to the vet. I'm thinking of
barberry. Open to suggestions for other shrub options. The planting


Rugosa! I lived with a 20' row of those for as many years and loved them.

I
keep forgetting.


I have been toying with the idea of planting some roses, probably rugosa
roses, to discourage kids from riding their bikes across my yard. There's
nothing quite as nasty as falling into a rose bush! I haven't had good luck
with pyrocantha and barberry isn't nasty enough in my opinion.


Flowering quince ( Chaenomeles speciosa ). My parents had one of these
*******ly plants in front of a bay window that I had to paint several
times over the years. Unfortunately, they've sold the house and now I'll
never get to trim it with a lawnmower, dig up the roots and salt the earth
where it grew.

http://www.arhomeandgarden.org/plant...s/japonica.htm

Stout thorns is a severe understatement.

paghat 02-12-2004 02:55 AM

In article , "Vox Humana"
wrote:

"Robert Chambers" wrote in message
. com...
How about a "whomping willow" like the Harry Potter movies? That would
take care of dogs, kids, pretty much anything.


I'm probably the only person on earth who hasn't seen any of the Harry
Potter movies.


I'm a hard-core film fan who hangs out with other hard-core film fans.
Almost none of us have seen any Harry Potter films.

-paghat the ratgirl

--
"Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher.
"Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature.
-from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers"
Visit the Garden of Paghat the Ratgirl: http://www.paghat.com

Tom Jaszewski 02-12-2004 02:58 AM

On 2 Dec 2004 02:39:13 GMT, Ed Clarke wrote:


Stout thorns is a severe understatement.



Thorny? You don't know what thorny is until you plant a
S. jankalski, now that's one thorny sombitch....


Tom Jaszewski 02-12-2004 03:00 AM

On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 18:55:56 -0800,
(paghat) wrote:

I'm a hard-core film fan who hangs out with other hard-core film fans.
Almost none of us have seen any Harry Potter films.



LOL, that and .35 cents will get you......

We're getting to callused?


Suzie-Q 02-12-2004 04:03 AM

In article ,
"Doug Kanter" wrote:

- "Chelsea Christenson" wrote in message
- ...
- Doug Kanter wrote:
- ....to plant this spring in a spot where disgusting dog owners like to
- stop
- their filthy beasts on my property. Shrub must be capable of inflicting
- enough damage to send the dog to the vet.
-
- The dogs aren't deciding where to stop. Mutilate the owners.
-
-
- Great idea, but unfortunately, I'm not always around to greet the assholes.
- I'm home today, though, and saw something unbelievable. A slimeball was
- walking her dog. She began with the usual routine - letting her dog
- investigate the edge of my neighbor's lawn where it meets the street. Then,
- she wandered RIGHT INTO THE MIDDLE of a 50' deep lawn, let the dog crap, and
- cleaned it up. Where the hell do some dog owners get the idea that this sort
- of thing is acceptable???


If she cleaned up after the dog, what's the problem?
--
8^\~~~ Sue (remove the x to e-mail)
~~~~~~
"I reserve the absolute right to be smarter
today than I was yesterday." -Adlai Stevenson

http://www.suzanne-eckhardt.com/
***Revelation 22:12*** ICQ: 349878998
http://www.intergnat.com/malebashing/

Robert Chambers 02-12-2004 04:27 AM

I'm sorry to have not included a description then. There's no need to
sully yourself by watching an HP flick. for the purposes of this
discussion it's a tree that for one reason or another is very bad
tempered and if you get near it, it's likely to reach over and "whomp"
you with a vengeance. It smashed up a Ford Anglia once and the latest
movie it flings the people around.

I think it's make believe though so I don't think you can order them
from your usual suppliers.

I resisted the Harry Potter movies for as long as I could but my 8 and 5
year old are more persistent than I am stubborn. Turns out I enjoyed
them after all - who'd a thunk it?

Robert

paghat wrote:

In article , "Vox Humana"
wrote:


"Robert Chambers" wrote in message
y.com...

How about a "whomping willow" like the Harry Potter movies? That would
take care of dogs, kids, pretty much anything.


I'm probably the only person on earth who hasn't seen any of the Harry
Potter movies.



I'm a hard-core film fan who hangs out with other hard-core film fans.
Almost none of us have seen any Harry Potter films.

-paghat the ratgirl


Salty Thumb 02-12-2004 04:43 AM

Robert Chambers wrote in news:HQwrd.1401
:

I'm sorry to have not included a description then. There's no need to
sully yourself by watching an HP flick. for the purposes of this
discussion it's a tree that for one reason or another is very bad
tempered and if you get near it, it's likely to reach over and "whomp"
you with a vengeance. It smashed up a Ford Anglia once and the latest
movie it flings the people around.

I think it's make believe though so I don't think you can order them
from your usual suppliers.


You can grow your own "whomping willow". All you need is Harry Potter's
Chamber Pot of Secrets. The fertilizer is the key.

zxcvbob 02-12-2004 04:50 AM

Robert Chambers wrote:
I'm sorry to have not included a description then. There's no need to
sully yourself by watching an HP flick. for the purposes of this
discussion it's a tree that for one reason or another is very bad
tempered and if you get near it, it's likely to reach over and "whomp"
you with a vengeance. It smashed up a Ford Anglia once and the latest
movie it flings the people around.

I think it's make believe though so I don't think you can order them
from your usual suppliers.

I resisted the Harry Potter movies for as long as I could but my 8 and 5
year old are more persistent than I am stubborn. Turns out I enjoyed
them after all - who'd a thunk it?

Robert



Maybe Doug needs to plant an "Audrey".

(that ought to confuse a few folks)

Bob

Cheryl Isaak 02-12-2004 11:25 AM

On 12/1/04 8:10 PM, in article ,
"Vox Humana" wrote:


"Robert Chambers" wrote in message
. com...
How about a "whomping willow" like the Harry Potter movies? That would
take care of dogs, kids, pretty much anything.


I'm probably the only person on earth who hasn't seen any of the Harry
Potter movies.



They are well worth the read and/or watch. Not the best of best, but darn
good!

Cheryl


Cheryl Isaak 02-12-2004 11:28 AM

On 12/1/04 11:50 PM, in article , "zxcvbob"
wrote:

Robert Chambers wrote:
I'm sorry to have not included a description then. There's no need to
sully yourself by watching an HP flick. for the purposes of this
discussion it's a tree that for one reason or another is very bad
tempered and if you get near it, it's likely to reach over and "whomp"
you with a vengeance. It smashed up a Ford Anglia once and the latest
movie it flings the people around.

I think it's make believe though so I don't think you can order them
from your usual suppliers.

I resisted the Harry Potter movies for as long as I could but my 8 and 5
year old are more persistent than I am stubborn. Turns out I enjoyed
them after all - who'd a thunk it?

Robert



Maybe Doug needs to plant an "Audrey".

(that ought to confuse a few folks)

Bob



No - what is so confusing? LOL

Cheryl


SVTKate 02-12-2004 11:39 AM

Hey Ricky,
When my husband and I bought our first house we had that problem. Everyone
in the neighborhood
wo was walking a dog let it stop on my front yard.

I just made a simple little sign on my computer, in nice bold lettering.
It read:

We don't use your yard for a toilet.
Please don't let your animals use ours for one!

It only took a week. Long enough for all the dog walkers to see it, and it
stopped!
It enabled us to stay friendly with the neighbors too since each of them
could blame the other guy LOL

Kate

"Ricky" wrote in message
...
| "Doug Kanter" wrote in message
| ...
| ....to plant this spring in a spot where disgusting dog owners like to
| stop
| their filthy beasts on my property. Shrub must be capable of inflicting
| enough damage to send the dog to the vet. I'm thinking of barberry. Open
| to
| suggestions for other shrub options. The planting spot receives sun for
| about 2/3 of the day, and will be buried in snow for 3 months out of the
| year.
|
| Shame about the snow. I was going to recommend several large variegated
| Agave but I don't know if they'll handle snow for 3 months. How about
barbed
| wire on some bamboo poles?
|
|



SVTKate 02-12-2004 11:41 AM

They DO make a motion activated sprinkler that is supposed to shoo pests
away.

Kate


"Jim Carlock" wrote in message
. ..
| "Doug Kanter" asked about:
| something to stop filthy beasts...
|
| I don't know where this idea came from...
|
| A small battery operated fan attached to a motion sensor
| that is attached to a small contraption of cheyenne and
| black pepper. If the spritz doesn't shoot up too high, I'm
| thinking along the lines that ONLY the dog will get whiff
| of it and thus if it's hidden well enough, people won't be
| apt to steal it.
|
| Or even better yet, get some oil of mating for dogs and
| put it on something off your property where you can get
| odd pictures of dogs and neighbors... if there's a remote
| controlled spritzing device you can spritz the legs of the
| neighbors...
|
| Hmm. I bet such an item would sell and could be patented.
|
| --
| Jim Carlock
| Post replies to newsgroup.
|
|



Doug Kanter 02-12-2004 01:40 PM

I suspect it only works on animals which are afraid of rain. For the rest,
they'll probably get used to it pretty quickly.

"SVTKate" wrote in message
k.net...
They DO make a motion activated sprinkler that is supposed to shoo pests
away.

Kate


"Jim Carlock" wrote in message
. ..
| "Doug Kanter" asked about:
| something to stop filthy beasts...
|
| I don't know where this idea came from...
|
| A small battery operated fan attached to a motion sensor
| that is attached to a small contraption of cheyenne and
| black pepper. If the spritz doesn't shoot up too high, I'm
| thinking along the lines that ONLY the dog will get whiff
| of it and thus if it's hidden well enough, people won't be
| apt to steal it.
|
| Or even better yet, get some oil of mating for dogs and
| put it on something off your property where you can get
| odd pictures of dogs and neighbors... if there's a remote
| controlled spritzing device you can spritz the legs of the
| neighbors...
|
| Hmm. I bet such an item would sell and could be patented.
|
| --
| Jim Carlock
| Post replies to newsgroup.
|
|





Doug Kanter 02-12-2004 01:52 PM


"Suzie-Q" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Doug Kanter" wrote:

- "Chelsea Christenson" wrote in message
- ...
- Doug Kanter wrote:
- ....to plant this spring in a spot where disgusting dog owners like

to
- stop
- their filthy beasts on my property. Shrub must be capable of

inflicting
- enough damage to send the dog to the vet.
-
- The dogs aren't deciding where to stop. Mutilate the owners.
-
-
- Great idea, but unfortunately, I'm not always around to greet the

assholes.
- I'm home today, though, and saw something unbelievable. A slimeball was
- walking her dog. She began with the usual routine - letting her dog
- investigate the edge of my neighbor's lawn where it meets the street.

Then,
- she wandered RIGHT INTO THE MIDDLE of a 50' deep lawn, let the dog

crap, and
- cleaned it up. Where the hell do some dog owners get the idea that this

sort
- of thing is acceptable???


If she cleaned up after the dog, what's the problem?


1) You apparently don't observe dogs very effectively. Even if the crap is
cleaned up, the scent interests OTHER dogs, including the unleashed ones.
Then, the spot becomes popular and the property owner has to deal with the
results.

2) If you dragged your trash can to a neighbor's property, dumped it on the
middle of their lawn, and cleaned it up, you'd be arrested and taken
somewhere for psychological evaluation. Afterward, you'd get a little
talking-to from a judge. There is no difference between this and the dog
owner I described.

3) Private property comes with certain rights and privileges. If the owner
asks you to remove your shoes when walking on their lawn, you do it. If the
owner asks dog owners not to stop their animals on the property, regardless
of whether they clean up after them, the request will be honored. Period. No
questions, no debates, no excuses.



zxcvbob 02-12-2004 02:07 PM

Cheryl Isaak wrote:

On 12/1/04 11:50 PM, in article , "zxcvbob"
wrote:


Robert Chambers wrote:

I'm sorry to have not included a description then. There's no need to
sully yourself by watching an HP flick. for the purposes of this
discussion it's a tree that for one reason or another is very bad
tempered and if you get near it, it's likely to reach over and "whomp"
you with a vengeance. It smashed up a Ford Anglia once and the latest
movie it flings the people around.

I think it's make believe though so I don't think you can order them
from your usual suppliers.

I resisted the Harry Potter movies for as long as I could but my 8 and 5
year old are more persistent than I am stubborn. Turns out I enjoyed
them after all - who'd a thunk it?

Robert



Maybe Doug needs to plant an "Audrey".

(that ought to confuse a few folks)

Bob




No - what is so confusing? LOL

Cheryl



It's a literary reference, and that always confuses *somebody*.

Bob

Cheryl Isaak 02-12-2004 02:49 PM

On 12/2/04 9:07 AM, in article , "zxcvbob"
wrote:

Cheryl Isaak wrote:

On 12/1/04 11:50 PM, in article
, "zxcvbob"
wrote:


Robert Chambers wrote:

I'm sorry to have not included a description then. There's no need to
sully yourself by watching an HP flick. for the purposes of this
discussion it's a tree that for one reason or another is very bad
tempered and if you get near it, it's likely to reach over and "whomp"
you with a vengeance. It smashed up a Ford Anglia once and the latest
movie it flings the people around.

I think it's make believe though so I don't think you can order them
from your usual suppliers.

I resisted the Harry Potter movies for as long as I could but my 8 and 5
year old are more persistent than I am stubborn. Turns out I enjoyed
them after all - who'd a thunk it?

Robert



Maybe Doug needs to plant an "Audrey".

(that ought to confuse a few folks)

Bob




No - what is so confusing? LOL

Cheryl



It's a literary reference, and that always confuses *somebody*.

Bob



Or a play or movie (and boy was it BAD) reference. That does make it a
little more accessible!
Cheryl



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