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Jenn Vanderslice 08-03-2005 01:07 PM

Fast sprouting seeds?
 

Hi all,

I have a project that I'm suppose to help some school children with
either this week or next.
Can some readers here suggest some seeds that are quick to germinate?
Time is an issue with this project...

TIA,
Jenn
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Mikael 08-03-2005 01:15 PM

Many years ago, when I was in grade school, we always used Bean seeds. They
seemed to germinate quickly.
Mikael

"Jenn Vanderslice" wrote in message
...

Hi all,

I have a project that I'm suppose to help some school children with either
this week or next.
Can some readers here suggest some seeds that are quick to germinate?
Time is an issue with this project...

TIA,
Jenn
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RCTY F.O.s: http://tinyurl.com/64dq5

Two things fill the mind with ever new and increasing wonder and awe - the
starry heavens above me and the moral law within me. - Immanuel Kant




zxcvbob 08-03-2005 02:38 PM

Jenn Vanderslice wrote:

Hi all,

I have a project that I'm suppose to help some school children with
either this week or next.
Can some readers here suggest some seeds that are quick to germinate?
Time is an issue with this project...

TIA,
Jenn



Radish, mung beans, rye grass. I'll think of some fast-germinating
flowers later.

Best regards,
Bob

Alan Sung 08-03-2005 04:35 PM

"Mikael" wrote in message
...
Many years ago, when I was in grade school, we always used Bean seeds.

They
seemed to germinate quickly.
Mikael


Lima beans work well. They're big too so the kids can see all the "parts".
They'll even germinate on a moist paper towel. The trick is to have a nice
warm constant temperature for speedy germination.

-al sung
Hopkinton, MA (Zone 6a)



Bill R 08-03-2005 04:50 PM

Jenn Vanderslice wrote:

Hi all,

I have a project that I'm suppose to help some school children with
either this week or next.
Can some readers here suggest some seeds that are quick to germinate?
Time is an issue with this project...

TIA,
Jenn



Jenn,

Great project! There is nothing like teaching young
children about growing things.

Beans are usually a good thing to use and they usually
sprout within a week. If you soak them in warm water about
three hours before you plant them they sprout even quicker.
Radishes, Peas, and Onion Sets are fast sprouters too.

One teacher that I know uses sunflowers seeds and she does
her project in May so that the kids can start their seeds,
watch them grow for a few weeks, and then take them home and
plant them in the garden and watch them grow all summer.
Each fall her students from the past year bring her pictures
of the little sunflower they took home that grew to six foot
giants.
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dps 08-03-2005 05:29 PM

I recommend radishes. You can go from seed to salad in 3 weeks.

VMWOOD 09-03-2005 12:56 PM

Marigold seeds germinate within a few days;
http://community.webshots.com/user/vmwood

Marv-Montezuma,IA


Steve 10-03-2005 08:32 PM

Basil.

-n-

"VMWOOD" wrote in message
oups.com...
Marigold seeds germinate within a few days;
http://community.webshots.com/user/vmwood

Marv-Montezuma,IA




Jenn Vanderslice 11-03-2005 12:08 AM


I'm assisting a small local school to help the students have plants to
show in this event:
http://www.longwoodgardens.org/Seaso...FlowerShow.htm

It's about 7-8 weeks away (they're getting a late start...)

I appreciate everyone's help...

/J

Steve wrote:

Basil.

-n-

"VMWOOD" wrote in message
oups.com...

Marigold seeds germinate within a few days;
http://community.webshots.com/user/vmwood

Marv-Montezuma,IA





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undergroundbob 11-03-2005 12:10 PM

I'd go for sunflowers - nice fresh seeds will germinate in less than a week in warmth and light, and kids love the giant types. They're so cheerful and vibrant, and when the're starting out you can practically see them growing!

Best of luck.

Françoise 11-03-2005 10:08 PM

I have planted seeds of Hollyhock and Painted Daisy March the 7^th and
to day the 11^th , I saw that some have sprouted already.

Some of the seeds planted this year that have sprout in just a few days are

Seeds Planted sprouted
Echinacea 22-02-05 27-02-05
Jacob's Ladder 22-02-05 27-02-05
Begonia 16-02-05 26-02-05
Chrysanthemum 09-02-05 12-02-05
Gerbera 10-02-05 14-02-05
Heliotrope 22-02-05 27-02-05
Snapdragon 22-02-05 27-02-05

Françoise.


Jenn Vanderslice wrote:


I'm assisting a small local school to help the students have plants to
show in this event:
http://www.longwoodgardens.org/Seaso...FlowerShow.htm

It's about 7-8 weeks away (they're getting a late start...)

I appreciate everyone's help...

/J

Steve wrote:

Basil.

-n-

"VMWOOD" wrote in message
oups.com...

Marigold seeds germinate within a few days;
http://community.webshots.com/user/vmwood

Marv-Montezuma,IA






Jeana 17-03-2005 10:37 PM

Someone is telling me they're going to start a raised bed veggie garden
with a load of compost. Not digging it in, just planting in compost.
When I said, get a soil test first, and you need to dig the compost in
etc..., he said I was wrong. I don't mind being wrong, but am I missing
something here with what he's doing?

Thanks, Jeana

Texas Tomatoes 17-03-2005 10:46 PM

As long as the compost is not hot it should be ok... some people start seeds
in compost. I dont do it this way. Id say get a soil test once a yr or when
starting a new area. Regardless of the test results...compost is good. If
the soil was less than ideal it would be reccomended to add compost.
"Jeana" wrote in message
news:pEn_d.11657$ju.4985@okepread07...
Someone is telling me they're going to start a raised bed veggie garden
with a load of compost. Not digging it in, just planting in compost. When
I said, get a soil test first, and you need to dig the compost in etc...,
he said I was wrong. I don't mind being wrong, but am I missing something
here with what he's doing?

Thanks, Jeana




Phisherman 18-03-2005 12:23 AM

On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:37:44 -0500, Jeana wrote:

Someone is telling me they're going to start a raised bed veggie garden
with a load of compost. Not digging it in, just planting in compost.
When I said, get a soil test first, and you need to dig the compost in
etc..., he said I was wrong. I don't mind being wrong, but am I missing
something here with what he's doing?

Thanks, Jeana


I can't see where anyone is "wrong." Good compost alone has much
what's needed to make plants grow, but some plants will grow better,
have minerals available and have better support when the compost is
tilled into the ground. There are different kinds of compost--some
made entirely from animal manure, some from decayed vegetation matter.
Take a look at his garden mid-summer and let us know?

Jeana 18-03-2005 01:03 AM

Phisherman wrote:


I can't see where anyone is "wrong." Good compost alone has much
what's needed to make plants grow, but some plants will grow better,
have minerals available and have better support when the compost is
tilled into the ground. There are different kinds of compost--some
made entirely from animal manure, some from decayed vegetation matter.
Take a look at his garden mid-summer and let us know?


I will let you know. I think he's fairly new at this, but he does have a
plan. ;) And I'm curious too.

Thanks


Warren 18-03-2005 01:46 AM

Phisherman wrote:

Jeana wrote:
Someone is telling me they're going to start a raised bed veggie garden
with a load of compost. Not digging it in, just planting in compost.
When I said, get a soil test first, and you need to dig the compost in
etc..., he said I was wrong. I don't mind being wrong, but am I missing
something here with what he's doing?


I can't see where anyone is "wrong." Good compost alone has much
what's needed to make plants grow, but some plants will grow better,
have minerals available and have better support when the compost is
tilled into the ground. There are different kinds of compost--some
made entirely from animal manure, some from decayed vegetation matter.
Take a look at his garden mid-summer and let us know?



Yeah. Right/wrong doesn't seem to be the best way to frame this question.

What kind of "compost", and whether it's finished composting are important
issues. How thickly it's spread, what kind of soil is underneath, what's being
grown, what the weather conditions will be, and whether some, and what type of
mulch might be used will factor in as well.

We're talking about a raised bed, but how raised are we talking? If we're
talking more than six inches over the existing soil, there may not be any reason
to till anything into it. If it's hardpan, breaking it up a little would help
with drainage, but you wouldn't need to till in the material you're using to
fill the bed.

If they're buying bags of "planting compost", it's not really what we might call
compost. It would be a mix of compost and soil, which gets us back to the same
kind of medium you'd get tilling compost into the existing soil.

And what is their goal in this garden? Do they want to turn it into a project to
maximize the yield from some vegetables? Or are they just looking to put
something in that spot of the yard, and decided that they'd like to try their
hand at vegetables? To some of us, seeing how great of a crop we can get is fun.
To others, soil tests, and optimizing the growing medium and such takes all the
fun out of it.

For some people, gardening isn't a competitive sport. It's like the difference
between someone who buys special running shoes, and keeps a training diary,
versus someone who just goes out and runs around the neighborhood in their
basketball shoes every couple of days. If you take these people off, and tell
them that they need to get the right shoes, and keep a training diary, they
might stop running all together because it's no longer fun.

They're not setting themselves up for failure. They're probably not going to
hurt themselves. Depending on what kind of "compost" we're talking about,
whatever they're going to plant will probably grow. They may not be ready for
the competitive vegetable harvest circuit in fall, but their approach may result
in enough to satisfy them.

Right or wrong? Nope. Just different.

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Jeana 18-03-2005 01:55 AM

Warren wrote:

They're not setting themselves up for failure. They're probably not going to
hurt themselves. Depending on what kind of "compost" we're talking about,
whatever they're going to plant will probably grow. They may not be ready for
the competitive vegetable harvest circuit in fall, but their approach may result
in enough to satisfy them.

Right or wrong? Nope. Just different.

Shame on me. I forgot how fun it was to throw caution to the wind, and
just go ahead and do something. I'm not going to "help" him unless he
specifically asks again. I must be getting old, good grief! g

I did warn him about buying that sewer sludge stuff though.

Thanks, Jeana

Frogleg 21-03-2005 02:14 PM

On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:37:44 -0500, Jeana wrote:

Someone is telling me they're going to start a raised bed veggie garden
with a load of compost. Not digging it in, just planting in compost.
When I said, get a soil test first, and you need to dig the compost in
etc..., he said I was wrong. I don't mind being wrong, but am I missing
something here with what he's doing?


As anyone who's maintained (or rather, not maintained) a 'cold'
compost pile, plants *love* it and will take root or germinate in
compost in profusion. However, 'compost' usually refers to partially
decomposed organic matter that will continue to decay and disappear.
Without any soil, your friend will have sunken gardens rather than
raised beds.

Compost Nut 06-04-2005 06:25 AM

On 3/21/05 7:14 AM, in article ,
"Frogleg" wrote:

On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:37:44 -0500, Jeana wrote:

Someone is telling me they're going to start a raised bed veggie garden
with a load of compost. Not digging it in, just planting in compost.
When I said, get a soil test first, and you need to dig the compost in
etc..., he said I was wrong. I don't mind being wrong, but am I missing
something here with what he's doing?


As anyone who's maintained (or rather, not maintained) a 'cold'
compost pile, plants *love* it and will take root or germinate in
compost in profusion. However, 'compost' usually refers to partially
decomposed organic matter that will continue to decay and disappear.
Without any soil, your friend will have sunken gardens rather than
raised beds.

I prefer to dig my compost in. Reason: To leave it on the surface could kill
the living organisms in it. I say bury it. But there are lots of ways to
skin a cat...some are better some are worse. Most will work to some degree.
Gary


John Wheeler 09-04-2005 09:30 AM

I don't agree that "Compost usually refers to partially decomposted organic
matter that will continue to decay and disappear." I consider "Compost" to
be fully decomposed organic matter. I refer to what you call "compost" as
partially-composted material. That's ok for top dressing, but not adding to
soil. Experiments have been conducted (U. MD) in growing plants (Italian
frying peppers) in 5 gallon buckets with only compost as the growing medium
and they did great.
__________________
John Henry Wheeler
Washington, DC
USDA Zone 7
"Compost Nut" wrote in message
...
On 3/21/05 7:14 AM, in article ,
"Frogleg" wrote:

On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:37:44 -0500, Jeana wrote:

Someone is telling me they're going to start a raised bed veggie garden
with a load of compost. Not digging it in, just planting in compost.
When I said, get a soil test first, and you need to dig the compost in
etc..., he said I was wrong. I don't mind being wrong, but am I missing
something here with what he's doing?


As anyone who's maintained (or rather, not maintained) a 'cold'
compost pile, plants *love* it and will take root or germinate in
compost in profusion. However, 'compost' usually refers to partially
decomposed organic matter that will continue to decay and disappear.
Without any soil, your friend will have sunken gardens rather than
raised beds.

I prefer to dig my compost in. Reason: To leave it on the surface could
kill
the living organisms in it. I say bury it. But there are lots of ways to
skin a cat...some are better some are worse. Most will work to some
degree.
Gary





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