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Old 11-05-2005, 02:43 AM
Sir Topham Hat
 
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Just got a flyer via sail mail about a new book Jerry Baker is hawking,
"Terrific Garden Tonics". I'm sure many of these potions are in his "Impatient
Gardener" text, but I never tried any of them. I was thinking about his lawn
potion, 1 cup dish soap, 1 can of beer and fill the remainder of the quart hose
end sprayer with ammonia. Can anybody see any harm this could possible do to a
lawn? I'm willing to give it a go, (to supplement my 1/2 rate fertilizer
program), but not at the expense of damaging my lawn.

In general what is the opinion of this guy? Is he well respected or what ?
thxs

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Old 11-05-2005, 03:36 AM
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Jerry Baker is the spawn of Satan.

He is a fraud, a charlatan, a snake oil salesman.

Don't do it.

His so-called tonics are not only goofy, they can be toxic to your plants or
you.


"Sir Topham Hat" wrote in message
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Just got a flyer via sail mail about a new book Jerry Baker is hawking,
"Terrific Garden Tonics". I'm sure many of these potions are in his
"Impatient
Gardener" text, but I never tried any of them. I was thinking about his
lawn
potion, 1 cup dish soap, 1 can of beer and fill the remainder of the quart
hose
end sprayer with ammonia. Can anybody see any harm this could possible do
to a
lawn? I'm willing to give it a go, (to supplement my 1/2 rate fertilizer
program), but not at the expense of damaging my lawn.

In general what is the opinion of this guy? Is he well respected or what
?
thxs



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Old 11-05-2005, 03:41 AM
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Cereus-validus..... wrote:
Jerry Baker is the spawn of Satan.

He is a fraud, a charlatan, a snake oil salesman.

Don't do it.

His so-called tonics are not only goofy, they can be toxic to your plants or
you.



But mostly, they are goofy.

Best regards,
Bob


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Old 11-05-2005, 03:06 PM
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Jerry Baker is a fraud

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Old 11-05-2005, 11:12 PM
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Sir Topham Hat wrote in
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Just got a flyer via sail mail about a new book Jerry Baker is
hawking, "Terrific Garden Tonics". I'm sure many of these potions are
in his "Impatient Gardener" text, but I never tried any of them. I
was thinking about his lawn potion, 1 cup dish soap, 1 can of beer and
fill the remainder of the quart hose end sprayer with ammonia. Can
anybody see any harm this could possible do to a lawn? I'm willing to
give it a go, (to supplement my 1/2 rate fertilizer program), but not
at the expense of damaging my lawn.

In general what is the opinion of this guy? Is he well respected or
what ? thxs



Haven't seen anything convincing either way. I looked at the dethatching
tonic a while ago, and in "theory" it looked okay (however I neglected to
consider the effect of chlorine/chloramines that are invaribly in municipal
water supplies).

What's the lawn potion supposed to do? Seems to be the same minus the
cola. 1 cup of dish soap seems a bit much even if it's going 8(?) oz to 20
gal water. Plus you never know what kind of crap is going into dish soap
these days. If you can't convince yourself, you probably shouldn't do it.
Even if it doesn't have an immediate deleterious effect, make sure it
doesn't come back to bite you or someone else down the line.
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Old 12-05-2005, 04:09 AM
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"Sir Topham Hat" wrote

In general what is the opinion of this guy?


I don't know enough chemistry to comment on his concoctions, but when I saw
him hitting his trees, I changed channels.

I also notice that none of the presenters on shows like This Old House and
Victory Garden pour beer on their lawns.


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I also notice that none of the presenters on shows like This Old House and
Victory Garden pour beer on their lawns.


Wasting good beer is a sin.

They probably do water the lawns with it indirectly, of course. That is,
after ingesting it and when nature calls. If you know what I mean. They
aren't going to show that on public TV.

"Dave Gower" wrote in message
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"Sir Topham Hat" wrote

In general what is the opinion of this guy?


I don't know enough chemistry to comment on his concoctions, but when I
saw him hitting his trees, I changed channels.

I also notice that none of the presenters on shows like This Old House and
Victory Garden pour beer on their lawns.



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Old 12-05-2005, 10:58 PM
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On Thu, 12 May 2005 09:56:26 GMT, "Cereus-validus....."
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They probably do water the lawns with it indirectly, of course. That is,
after ingesting it and when nature calls.




Works great! Although the wife complains about the darker green spots!


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The kindest thing I can say about Jerry Baker is that he's a crackpot -- and
awfully good at self-promotion. There is absolutely no proof that any of
his concoctions work, which he will be the first to admit.

Some years ago when he was in town for the annual home & garden show, some
Extension Service Master Gardeners I know had an interesting conversation
with him. It seems he stopped at their booth and asked what they thought
about "this Jerry Baker guy," as if they didn't know who he was. They played
along and said that he might claim to be America's master gardener, but they
had solid info and he didn't. His reply was to the effect that "he sure is
a good businessman, tho, isn't he?" True story, cross my heart and hope to
die.

In any event, isn't it interesting that while he hypes all the homemade
remedies, the products sold under the Jerry Baker label are the same
chemicals the rest of the industry sells??? Hmmm.

Suzy O, Wis., Zone 5


"Sir Topham Hat" wrote in message
...
Just got a flyer via sail mail about a new book Jerry Baker is hawking,
"Terrific Garden Tonics". I'm sure many of these potions are in his
"Impatient
Gardener" text, but I never tried any of them. I was thinking about his
lawn
potion, 1 cup dish soap, 1 can of beer and fill the remainder of the quart
hose
end sprayer with ammonia. Can anybody see any harm this could possible do
to a
lawn? I'm willing to give it a go, (to supplement my 1/2 rate fertilizer
program), but not at the expense of damaging my lawn.

In general what is the opinion of this guy? Is he well respected or what
?
thxs



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Old 13-05-2005, 05:12 AM
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So he's a liar and a thief too?!!

If he pulled his snake oil routine on pet care instead, the SPCA would have
had him locked up long ago!!!!

If those extension service agents had introduced him to the wonderful world
of plant toxins, America's masturbating gardener would be only a distant
memory!!!


"Suzy O" wrote in message
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The kindest thing I can say about Jerry Baker is that he's a crackpot --
and awfully good at self-promotion. There is absolutely no proof that any
of his concoctions work, which he will be the first to admit.

Some years ago when he was in town for the annual home & garden show, some
Extension Service Master Gardeners I know had an interesting conversation
with him. It seems he stopped at their booth and asked what they thought
about "this Jerry Baker guy," as if they didn't know who he was. They
played along and said that he might claim to be America's master gardener,
but they had solid info and he didn't. His reply was to the effect that
"he sure is a good businessman, tho, isn't he?" True story, cross my
heart and hope to die.

In any event, isn't it interesting that while he hypes all the homemade
remedies, the products sold under the Jerry Baker label are the same
chemicals the rest of the industry sells??? Hmmm.

Suzy O, Wis., Zone 5


"Sir Topham Hat" wrote in message
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Just got a flyer via sail mail about a new book Jerry Baker is hawking,
"Terrific Garden Tonics". I'm sure many of these potions are in his
"Impatient
Gardener" text, but I never tried any of them. I was thinking about his
lawn
potion, 1 cup dish soap, 1 can of beer and fill the remainder of the
quart hose
end sprayer with ammonia. Can anybody see any harm this could possible
do to a
lawn? I'm willing to give it a go, (to supplement my 1/2 rate fertilizer
program), but not at the expense of damaging my lawn.

In general what is the opinion of this guy? Is he well respected or what
?
thxs





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