How are they made, and what are they made of?

I'm looking into making them myself, but find it hard
to find some how-to materials online.

Alex

Alex wrote:
How are they made, and what are they made of?

I'm looking into making them myself, but find it hard
to find some how-to materials online.

Looks like it's basically just compost and miscellaneous other plant
materials.

http://www.vegfamily.com/amy-olga/tip4.htm

http://www.pfaf.org/leaflets/vegorg.php

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Jennifer

On 6/14/05 7:32 AM, in article
, "Jennifer"
wrote:

Alex wrote:
How are they made, and what are they made of?

I'm looking into making them myself, but find it hard
to find some how-to materials online.

Looks like it's basically just compost and miscellaneous other plant
materials.

http://www.vegfamily.com/amy-olga/tip4.htm

http://www.pfaf.org/leaflets/vegorg.php

--
Jennifer

And here I was wondering if he was composting vegans!

C

"Cheryl Isaak" wrote in message
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On 6/14/05 7:32 AM, in article
, "Jennifer"
wrote:

Alex wrote:
How are they made, and what are they made of?

I'm looking into making them myself, but find it hard
to find some how-to materials online.

Looks like it's basically just compost and miscellaneous other plant
materials.

http://www.vegfamily.com/amy-olga/tip4.htm

http://www.pfaf.org/leaflets/vegorg.php

--
Jennifer

And here I was wondering if he was composting vegans!

C


Vegan-Organic Principles? Give me a f..king break. No animal products - do
they think horses and cows suffer if we use their manure??? :-)

In article , "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Cheryl Isaak" wrote in message
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On 6/14/05 7:32 AM, in article
, "Jennifer"
wrote:

Alex wrote:
How are they made, and what are they made of?

I'm looking into making them myself, but find it hard
to find some how-to materials online.

Looks like it's basically just compost and miscellaneous other plant
materials.

http://www.vegfamily.com/amy-olga/tip4.htm

http://www.pfaf.org/leaflets/vegorg.php

--
Jennifer

And here I was wondering if he was composting vegans!

C


Vegan-Organic Principles? Give me a f..king break. No animal products - do
they think horses and cows suffer if we use their manure??? :-)

Actually not all vegan gardeners are adverse to manure which can be
regarded as vegan-organic because it is a byproduct of digested grass &
oats & the like. But anyone adverse to shoveling shit into their yard &
avoding especially the commercially manufactured manure composts is not
losing out on anything needed by the garden, as the so-called
green-manures are actually BETTER organic composts & are the kind of
composts most gardeners would be making at home.

Personally I would not want to forgo my access to free llama poo (from
llamas fed nothing chemicalized or gross), & I do use steer manure compost
merely because it is cheap, but anyone who wasn't cheap-ass like me &
wanted the BEST for their garden would have far fewer pollutants by
avoiding commercially prepared manure composts which are a nightmare of
chemical pollutants both from commercial feeds & from from

It takes almost no concession to "go vegan" for someone who is already an
organic gardener. It would mean using kelp instead of fish fertilizer,
which has the added bonus of not making the garden smell like a shit hole
full of rotting fish. Going vegan would mean using alfalfa powder in lieu
of bonemeal or other rendering plant fertilizers, which has the
side-benifit of not introducing prions into the gardened environment &
keeps keeps dogs & racoons from thinking there must be something meaty to
dig up in a freshly planted & bonemealed bed.

I'm no vegan but there were too many additional reasons to avoid
waist-meat byproducts for gardening. I prefer kelp & alfalfa to rendering
plant waste products. It is moving UP the scale of quality & benefit. And
any gardener who is not a closeminded snit would at least want to
understand the benefits & know something about vegan-gardening techniques,
borrowing what suits & not what doesn't.

Some of it may be assessed as merely political, religious, or emotional,
as well as an absurdly exaggerated response to the OVER-exploitaiton of
animal life causing some to feel that no exploitation of any kind should
occur (which unfortunately would be as fast a road to animal extinction as
any imaginable, if everyone on earth did suddenly follow such cultic
thinking). Still, not wanting to fertilize the garden with rendered
kittens & puppies & roadkill (which are indeed major ingredients in
fertilizers that incorporate rendering plant sludge), that might be an
emotional choice because its so icky, but it is easy to understand as even
you probably wouldn't be running kittens through meat grinders as a
regular part of our home composting system if you had to make it rather
than buy it done for you so you can distance yourself from the process.

Or it can be an ecological choice because non-meat alternatives are
frequently less polluted (due to the chemicals & pharmaceuticals in
livestock feeds that do pollute bonemeal & commercial manure products). Or
based on a reasoned sociopolitical or personal-moral choice not to support
rendering plants & slaughter houses by buying products reliant on killing
animals by the millions. Not wanting to be part of that system is pretty
decent, if you ask me, just so long as it doesn't extend to categorizing
as immoral anyone who raises or hunts their own meat & other idiot
exaggerations.

Or on the religious basis a Jewish household wouldn't want rendered swine
in their yard & Hindus wouldn't want rendered cattle in their gardens --
anything with rendering plant matter in it will have all these animals in
the mix.

Plus, surprisingly enough, some vegan methods turn out to be the ones with
superior results for the garden, so some of it may be adaptable even by
people who aren't concerned with how many crunched up bones of kittens &
puppies & chickens & cows & diseased livestock & miscellaneous
slaughterhouse garbage & all-round suffering went into their meat-based
garden products.

So while I might share a small part of your feeling because I regard the
special language & attitude of so much of "Veganic" gardening movement
(promoted by the likes of the "Gentle World Vegan Paradigm Center" I kid
you not) to be New Age Noodle Braindamaged Dunce-hat Doofy-Wussy-Weanie &
Cultic, nevertheless the basic choice not to garden with the blood & bones
& guts of all manner of wild & domestic animals can be a completely
rational & superior choice. Despite that if veganism were enforced as the
only choice for all people, the repurcussions would impact negatively the
very animal population that incites the worst blindered sentimental
decisionmaking of an irrationally serious vegan.

-paghat the ratgirl
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"paghat" wrote in message
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It would mean using kelp instead of fish fertilizer,
which has the added bonus of not making the garden smell like a shit hole
full of rotting fish.

I stand mostly corrected. However, as a fisherman, I take moderate offense
at that last remark. :-)

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:56:57 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

Vegan-Organic Principles? Give me a f..king break. No animal products - do
they think horses and cows suffer if we use their manure??? :-)



So much for your purported tolerance of differing ideas!

Sorry I hadn't posted in a while and didn't catch the troll....


On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 09:54:21 -0700, Tom Jaszewski
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:56:57 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

Vegan-Organic Principles? Give me a f..king break. No animal products - do
they think horses and cows suffer if we use their manure??? :-)



So much for your purported tolerance of differing ideas!

"Jennifer" wrote in message
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Alex wrote:
How are they made, and what are they made of?

I'm looking into making them myself, but find it hard
to find some how-to materials online.

Looks like it's basically just compost and miscellaneous other plant
materials.

http://www.vegfamily.com/amy-olga/tip4.htm

http://www.pfaf.org/leaflets/vegorg.php

--
Jennifer

I enjoyed those links, thanks Jennifer

"Jennifer" schreef in bericht
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Alex wrote:
How are they made, and what are they made of?

I'm looking into making them myself, but find it hard
to find some how-to materials online.

Looks like it's basically just compost and miscellaneous other plant
materials.

http://www.vegfamily.com/amy-olga/tip4.htm

http://www.pfaf.org/leaflets/vegorg.php

Jennifer, thanks a lot for those links.

Alex

"Alex" writes:
How are they made, and what are they made of?

I'm looking into making them myself, but find it hard
to find some how-to materials online.

relatively easy...
you need a chipper/shreader, a vegan, and a compost heap.

Now, Go rent/watch the movie Fargo.



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