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Bug on Grape vines... Friend or Foe?
http://members.aol.com/digitalvinyl66/GrapeBug.jpg
Been finding this guy on my grape vines... Friend or Foe?? DiGiTAL ViNYL (no email) Zone 6b/7, Westchester Co, NY, 1 mile off L.I.Sound 3rd year gardener http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/royalf...=/2055&.src=ph |
Looks like a lady beetle larvae to me.
Karen "DigitalVinyl" wrote in message ... http://members.aol.com/digitalvinyl66/GrapeBug.jpg Been finding this guy on my grape vines... Friend or Foe?? DiGiTAL ViNYL (no email) Zone 6b/7, Westchester Co, NY, 1 mile off L.I.Sound 3rd year gardener http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/royalf...=/2055&.src=ph |
DigitalVinyl wrote:
http://members.aol.com/digitalvinyl66/GrapeBug.jpg Been finding this guy on my grape vines... Friend or Foe?? DiGiTAL ViNYL (no email) Zone 6b/7, Westchester Co, NY, 1 mile off L.I.Sound 3rd year gardener http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/royalf...=/2055&.src=ph Could be a species of Leafhopper. If that is what it is, grapevines can tolerate populations of up to 15 leafhoppers per leaf with little or no economic damage. |
Its not a leafhopper, it is definitley a lady beetle larvae.
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On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 14:24:18 GMT, DigitalVinyl
wrote: :) http://members.aol.com/digitalvinyl66/GrapeBug.jpg :) :) Been finding this guy on my grape vines... :) Friend or Foe?? :) :) DiGiTAL ViNYL (no email) :) Zone 6b/7, Westchester Co, NY, 1 mile off L.I.Sound :) 3rd year gardener :) http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/royalf...=/2055&.src=ph Larvae of a lady bugs. Lar. (to e-mail, get rid of the BUGS!! Dancing dog is back! http://media.ebaumsworld.com/smartdog.wmv |
"Anonny Moose" wrote:
Looks like a lady beetle larvae to me. Karen Yep, thanks all. I thought they looked familiar. They have been set free on a colony of aphids on my calendula. http://members.aol.com/digitalvinyl66/GrapeBug.jpg DiGiTAL ViNYL (no email) Zone 6b/7, Westchester Co, NY, 1 mile off L.I.Sound 3rd year gardener http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/royalf...=/2055&.src=ph |
Bourne Identity wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:42:14 -0400, "Paul E. Lehmann" opined: DigitalVinyl wrote: http://members.aol.com/digitalvinyl66/GrapeBug.jpg Been finding this guy on my grape vines... Friend or Foe?? DiGiTAL ViNYL (no email) Zone 6b/7, Westchester Co, NY, 1 mile off L.I.Sound 3rd year gardener http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/royalf...=/2055&.src=ph Could be a species of Leafhopper. If that is what it is, grapevines can tolerate populations of up to 15 leafhoppers per leaf with little or no economic damage. No it isn't. Why answer when you aren't certain? It happens to be the larva of one of, if not THE most beneficial insect on the planet, the ladybeetle. Victoria Well, EXCUSE ME, Victoria. I had no idea there were so many lady bug experts on this news group. I merely tried to find the closest look alike in my copy of the Midwest Small Fruit Pest Management Handbook. Of course lady bug larva are not in the book. By the way, is there a difference in larva of the common lady bug and the Asian Lady beetle? The Asian Lady Beetle can RUIN a whole fermentation by releasing a smell when crushed that can not be cured. Thank you for educating me on lady bug larva. |
"Paul E. Lehmann" wrote in message ... Bourne Identity wrote: On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:42:14 -0400, "Paul E. Lehmann" opined: DigitalVinyl wrote: http://members.aol.com/digitalvinyl66/GrapeBug.jpg Been finding this guy on my grape vines... Friend or Foe?? DiGiTAL ViNYL (no email) Zone 6b/7, Westchester Co, NY, 1 mile off L.I.Sound 3rd year gardener http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/royalf...=/2055&.src=ph Could be a species of Leafhopper. If that is what it is, grapevines can tolerate populations of up to 15 leafhoppers per leaf with little or no economic damage. No it isn't. Why answer when you aren't certain? It happens to be the larva of one of, if not THE most beneficial insect on the planet, the ladybeetle. Victoria Well, EXCUSE ME, Victoria. I had no idea there were so many lady bug experts on this news group. I merely tried to find the closest look alike in my copy of the Midwest Small Fruit Pest Management Handbook. Of course lady bug larva are not in the book. By the way, is there a difference in larva of the common lady bug and the Asian Lady beetle? The Asian Lady Beetle can RUIN a whole fermentation by releasing a smell when crushed that can not be cured. Thank you for educating me on lady bug larva. The larvae of the different lady beetles is indeed different and the one in question appears to be the Asian lady beetle. The Asian adult releases a bitter tasting and foul smelling liquid, which is actually the beetle's blood, from its legs as a defensive action. So you'd definitely want to make sure you don't have these lady beetles in your fruit at harvest. |
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"Bourne Identity" wrote in message ... On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:14:11 -0700, "Anonny Moose" opined: The larvae of the different lady beetles is indeed different and the one in question appears to be the Asian lady beetle. The Asian adult releases a bitter tasting and foul smelling liquid, which is actually the beetle's blood, from its legs as a defensive action. So you'd definitely want to make sure you don't have these lady beetles in your fruit at harvest. When I make anything from fruit, I wash it. I thought this was common practice. You mean there are people who make wine, or jam, without washing the fruit first? You are quarrelsome and belligerent. |
Bourne Identity wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:14:11 -0700, "Anonny Moose" opined: The larvae of the different lady beetles is indeed different and the one in question appears to be the Asian lady beetle. The Asian adult releases a bitter tasting and foul smelling liquid, which is actually the beetle's blood, from its legs as a defensive action. So you'd definitely want to make sure you don't have these lady beetles in your fruit at harvest. When I make anything from fruit, I wash it. I thought this was common practice. You mean there are people who make wine, or jam, without washing the fruit first? ALL the wines you buy are made from grapes that has NOT been washed. I do not know of any wineries that wash the grapes prior to crushing. Even washing may not solve the problem entirely because the Asian beetle can and does burrow into holes in the fruit created by other insect pests. |
Anonny Moose wrote:
"Paul E. Lehmann" wrote in message ... Bourne Identity wrote: On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:42:14 -0400, "Paul E. Lehmann" opined: DigitalVinyl wrote: http://members.aol.com/digitalvinyl66/GrapeBug.jpg Been finding this guy on my grape vines... Friend or Foe?? DiGiTAL ViNYL (no email) Zone 6b/7, Westchester Co, NY, 1 mile off L.I.Sound 3rd year gardener http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/royalf...=/2055&.src=ph Could be a species of Leafhopper. If that is what it is, grapevines can tolerate populations of up to 15 leafhoppers per leaf with little or no economic damage. No it isn't. Why answer when you aren't certain? It happens to be the larva of one of, if not THE most beneficial insect on the planet, the ladybeetle. Victoria Well, EXCUSE ME, Victoria. I had no idea there were so many lady bug experts on this news group. I merely tried to find the closest look alike in my copy of the Midwest Small Fruit Pest Management Handbook. Of course lady bug larva are not in the book. By the way, is there a difference in larva of the common lady bug and the Asian Lady beetle? The Asian Lady Beetle can RUIN a whole fermentation by releasing a smell when crushed that can not be cured. Thank you for educating me on lady bug larva. The larvae of the different lady beetles is indeed different and the one in question appears to be the Asian lady beetle. The Asian adult releases a bitter tasting and foul smelling liquid, which is actually the beetle's blood, from its legs as a defensive action. So you'd definitely want to make sure you don't have these lady beetles in your fruit at harvest. Thank you for the information. The OP asked if the bug could be a problem. I believe the answer is YES, it could be a problem, IF the beetle is indeed The Asian beetle and IF the OP intends to make wine from the fruit or possible even jelly. Perhaps even Victoria could learn a thing or two - unless she has the answers to all the world problems. |
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Bourne Identity wrote:
On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 12:42:49 -0400, "Paul E. Lehmann" opined: Bourne Identity wrote: On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:14:11 -0700, "Anonny Moose" opined: The larvae of the different lady beetles is indeed different and the one in question appears to be the Asian lady beetle. The Asian adult releases a bitter tasting and foul smelling liquid, which is actually the beetle's blood, from its legs as a defensive action. So you'd definitely want to make sure you don't have these lady beetles in your fruit at harvest. When I make anything from fruit, I wash it. I thought this was common practice. You mean there are people who make wine, or jam, without washing the fruit first? ALL the wines you buy are made from grapes that has NOT been washed. I do not know of any wineries that wash the grapes prior to crushing. Even washing may not solve the problem entirely because the Asian beetle can and does burrow into holes in the fruit created by other insect pests. Well, Gallo Winery has been making wine from organically grown grapes for decades. I wonder how they do it. "Organically Grown" does not mean they wash their grapes. Organically grown means they restrict the pesticides and fungicides to those that are "considered" to be "Organic" such as Sulphur and Copper. |
Lar wrote:
In article , says... :) The OP asked if the bug could be a problem. I believe the answer is :YES, it :) could be a problem, IF the beetle is indeed The Asian beetle and IF :the OP :) intends to make wine from the fruit or possible even jelly. :) :) I don't think it would be any more of a problem than any other LB species, unless one is worried about them replacing the native species in an area. They all have the foul odor/taste. You may well be correct about them all having the foul odor/taste. I know that only recently has there been a great concern about the Asian Beetle. The other LB apparently were not a concern before but perhaps they should have been. |
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