http://members.aol.com/digitalvinyl66/GrapeBug.jpg

Been finding this guy on my grape vines...
Friend or Foe??

DiGiTAL ViNYL (no email)
Zone 6b/7, Westchester Co, NY, 1 mile off L.I.Sound
3rd year gardener
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/royalf...=/2055&.src=ph

Looks like a lady beetle larvae to me.
Karen


"DigitalVinyl" wrote in message
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http://members.aol.com/digitalvinyl66/GrapeBug.jpg

Been finding this guy on my grape vines...
Friend or Foe??

DiGiTAL ViNYL (no email)
Zone 6b/7, Westchester Co, NY, 1 mile off L.I.Sound
3rd year gardener
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/royalf...=/2055&.src=ph

DigitalVinyl wrote:

http://members.aol.com/digitalvinyl66/GrapeBug.jpg

Been finding this guy on my grape vines...
Friend or Foe??

DiGiTAL ViNYL (no email)
Zone 6b/7, Westchester Co, NY, 1 mile off L.I.Sound
3rd year gardener
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/royalf...=/2055&.src=ph

Could be a species of Leafhopper. If that is what it is, grapevines can
tolerate populations of up to 15 leafhoppers per leaf with little or no
economic damage.

Its not a leafhopper, it is definitley a lady beetle larvae.

Toad

On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 14:24:18 GMT, DigitalVinyl
wrote:

http://members.aol.com/digitalvinyl66/GrapeBug.jpg

Been finding this guy on my grape vines...
Friend or Foe??

DiGiTAL ViNYL (no email)
Zone 6b/7, Westchester Co, NY, 1 mile off L.I.Sound
3rd year gardener
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/royalf...=/2055&.src=ph

Larvae of a lady bugs.



Lar. (to e-mail, get rid of the BUGS!!


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"Anonny Moose" wrote:

Looks like a lady beetle larvae to me.
Karen

Yep, thanks all. I thought they looked familiar.
They have been set free on a colony of aphids on my calendula.

http://members.aol.com/digitalvinyl66/GrapeBug.jpg


DiGiTAL ViNYL (no email)
Zone 6b/7, Westchester Co, NY, 1 mile off L.I.Sound
3rd year gardener
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/royalf...=/2055&.src=ph

Bourne Identity wrote:

On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:42:14 -0400, "Paul E. Lehmann"
opined:

DigitalVinyl wrote:

http://members.aol.com/digitalvinyl66/GrapeBug.jpg

Been finding this guy on my grape vines...
Friend or Foe??

DiGiTAL ViNYL (no email)
Zone 6b/7, Westchester Co, NY, 1 mile off L.I.Sound
3rd year gardener
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/royalf...=/2055&.src=ph

Could be a species of Leafhopper. If that is what it is, grapevines can
tolerate populations of up to 15 leafhoppers per leaf with little or no
economic damage.

No it isn't. Why answer when you aren't certain? It happens to be the
larva of one of, if not THE most beneficial insect on the planet, the
ladybeetle.

Victoria

Well, EXCUSE ME, Victoria.

I had no idea there were so many lady bug experts on this news group.
I merely tried to find the closest look alike in my copy of the Midwest
Small Fruit Pest Management Handbook. Of course lady bug larva are not in
the book. By the way, is there a difference in larva of the common lady
bug and the Asian Lady beetle? The Asian Lady Beetle can RUIN a whole
fermentation by releasing a smell when crushed that can not be cured.

Thank you for educating me on lady bug larva.

"Paul E. Lehmann" wrote in message
...
Bourne Identity wrote:

On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:42:14 -0400, "Paul E. Lehmann"
opined:

DigitalVinyl wrote:

http://members.aol.com/digitalvinyl66/GrapeBug.jpg

Been finding this guy on my grape vines...
Friend or Foe??

DiGiTAL ViNYL (no email)
Zone 6b/7, Westchester Co, NY, 1 mile off L.I.Sound
3rd year gardener
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/royalf...=/2055&.src=ph

Could be a species of Leafhopper. If that is what it is, grapevines can
tolerate populations of up to 15 leafhoppers per leaf with little or no
economic damage.

No it isn't. Why answer when you aren't certain? It happens to be the
larva of one of, if not THE most beneficial insect on the planet, the
ladybeetle.

Victoria

Well, EXCUSE ME, Victoria.

I had no idea there were so many lady bug experts on this news group.
I merely tried to find the closest look alike in my copy of the Midwest
Small Fruit Pest Management Handbook. Of course lady bug larva are not in
the book. By the way, is there a difference in larva of the common lady
bug and the Asian Lady beetle? The Asian Lady Beetle can RUIN a whole
fermentation by releasing a smell when crushed that can not be cured.

Thank you for educating me on lady bug larva.

The larvae of the different lady beetles is indeed different and the one in
question appears to be the Asian lady beetle. The Asian adult releases a
bitter tasting and foul smelling liquid, which is actually the beetle's
blood, from its legs as a defensive action. So you'd definitely want to make
sure you don't have these lady beetles in your fruit at harvest.

In article ,
says...
The larvae of the different lady beetles is indeed different and the one in
question appears to be the Asian lady beetle. The Asian adult releases a
bitter tasting and foul smelling liquid, which is actually the beetle's
blood, from its legs as a defensive action. So you'd definitely want to make
sure you don't have these lady beetles in your fruit at harvest.

All the lady beetles will give of the foul odor/taste. I would also
say the larvae in question was the AMCLB.

--
Lar

to email....get rid of the BUGS

"Bourne Identity" wrote in message
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On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:14:11 -0700, "Anonny Moose"

opined:


The larvae of the different lady beetles is indeed different and the one
in
question appears to be the Asian lady beetle. The Asian adult releases a
bitter tasting and foul smelling liquid, which is actually the beetle's
blood, from its legs as a defensive action. So you'd definitely want to
make
sure you don't have these lady beetles in your fruit at harvest.


When I make anything from fruit, I wash it. I thought this was common
practice.
You mean there are people who make wine, or jam, without washing the fruit
first?

You are quarrelsome and belligerent.

Bourne Identity wrote:

On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:14:11 -0700, "Anonny Moose"
opined:


The larvae of the different lady beetles is indeed different and the one
in
question appears to be the Asian lady beetle. The Asian adult releases a
bitter tasting and foul smelling liquid, which is actually the beetle's
blood, from its legs as a defensive action. So you'd definitely want to
make sure you don't have these lady beetles in your fruit at harvest.


When I make anything from fruit, I wash it. I thought this was common
practice. You mean there are people who make wine, or jam, without washing
the fruit first?

ALL the wines you buy are made from grapes that has NOT been washed.
I do not know of any wineries that wash the grapes prior to crushing.

Even washing may not solve the problem entirely because the Asian beetle can
and does burrow into holes in the fruit created by other insect pests.

Anonny Moose wrote:


"Paul E. Lehmann" wrote in message
...
Bourne Identity wrote:

On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:42:14 -0400, "Paul E. Lehmann"
opined:

DigitalVinyl wrote:

http://members.aol.com/digitalvinyl66/GrapeBug.jpg

Been finding this guy on my grape vines...
Friend or Foe??

DiGiTAL ViNYL (no email)
Zone 6b/7, Westchester Co, NY, 1 mile off L.I.Sound
3rd year gardener
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/royalf...=/2055&.src=ph

Could be a species of Leafhopper. If that is what it is, grapevines can
tolerate populations of up to 15 leafhoppers per leaf with little or no
economic damage.

No it isn't. Why answer when you aren't certain? It happens to be the
larva of one of, if not THE most beneficial insect on the planet, the
ladybeetle.

Victoria

Well, EXCUSE ME, Victoria.

I had no idea there were so many lady bug experts on this news group.
I merely tried to find the closest look alike in my copy of the Midwest
Small Fruit Pest Management Handbook. Of course lady bug larva are not
in
the book. By the way, is there a difference in larva of the common lady
bug and the Asian Lady beetle? The Asian Lady Beetle can RUIN a whole
fermentation by releasing a smell when crushed that can not be cured.

Thank you for educating me on lady bug larva.

The larvae of the different lady beetles is indeed different and the one
in
question appears to be the Asian lady beetle. The Asian adult releases a
bitter tasting and foul smelling liquid, which is actually the beetle's
blood, from its legs as a defensive action. So you'd definitely want to
make sure you don't have these lady beetles in your fruit at harvest.

Thank you for the information.

The OP asked if the bug could be a problem. I believe the answer is YES, it
could be a problem, IF the beetle is indeed The Asian beetle and IF the OP
intends to make wine from the fruit or possible even jelly.

Perhaps even Victoria could learn a thing or two - unless she has the
answers to all the world problems.

In article ,
says...
The OP asked if the bug could be a problem. I believe the answer is YES, it
could be a problem, IF the beetle is indeed The Asian beetle and IF the OP
intends to make wine from the fruit or possible even jelly.


I don't think it would be any more of a problem than any other LB
species, unless one is worried about them replacing the native species
in an area. They all have the foul odor/taste.
--
Lar

to email....get rid of the BUGS

Bourne Identity wrote:

On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 12:42:49 -0400, "Paul E. Lehmann"
opined:

Bourne Identity wrote:

On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:14:11 -0700, "Anonny Moose"
opined:


The larvae of the different lady beetles is indeed different and the one
in
question appears to be the Asian lady beetle. The Asian adult releases
a bitter tasting and foul smelling liquid, which is actually the
beetle's blood, from its legs as a defensive action. So you'd definitely
want to make sure you don't have these lady beetles in your fruit at
harvest.


When I make anything from fruit, I wash it. I thought this was common
practice. You mean there are people who make wine, or jam, without
washing the fruit first?

ALL the wines you buy are made from grapes that has NOT been washed.
I do not know of any wineries that wash the grapes prior to crushing.

Even washing may not solve the problem entirely because the Asian beetle
can and does burrow into holes in the fruit created by other insect pests.

Well, Gallo Winery has been making wine from organically grown grapes for
decades. I wonder how they do it.

"Organically Grown" does not mean they wash their grapes. Organically grown
means they restrict the pesticides and fungicides to those that are
"considered" to be "Organic" such as Sulphur and Copper.

Lar wrote:

In article ,
says...
The OP asked if the bug could be a problem. I believe the answer is
:YES, it
could be a problem, IF the beetle is indeed The Asian beetle and IF
:the OP
intends to make wine from the fruit or possible even jelly.


I don't think it would be any more of a problem than any other LB
species, unless one is worried about them replacing the native species
in an area. They all have the foul odor/taste.

You may well be correct about them all having the foul odor/taste. I know
that only recently has there been a great concern about the Asian Beetle.
The other LB apparently were not a concern before but perhaps they should
have been.