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[email protected] 24-08-2005 03:09 PM

Weeds galore this year - what to do
 
Hello group,
I am 1 hour north of New York City.
This year, my lawn has become overrun with crabgrass and other nasty
weeds. There are areas that are mostly weed, and areas that are mostly
grass(bluegrass/rye). This has not occurred in the 7 years I have been
here. Anyway, I would like to take some action now if possible. I have
a 100x100ft lot with my home on it.

1) Is there any fertilizer combo weed killer that I can put down on the
entire lawn now?
2) Can I also seed most of the lawn in combination with 1) now?

I guess what I am asking is that is there an alternative to killing all
the weeds with straight weed killer, waiting for them to die off, then
seeding and fertilizing? Most of the lawn care plans I see state to
ferilize/seed now, and apply weedkiller/fertilizer in the spring. But I
do not want to fertilize the weeds now!


Doug Kanter 24-08-2005 04:06 PM

Who mows your lawn, and at what height?

wrote in message
oups.com...
Hello group,
I am 1 hour north of New York City.
This year, my lawn has become overrun with crabgrass and other nasty
weeds. There are areas that are mostly weed, and areas that are mostly
grass(bluegrass/rye). This has not occurred in the 7 years I have been
here. Anyway, I would like to take some action now if possible. I have
a 100x100ft lot with my home on it.

1) Is there any fertilizer combo weed killer that I can put down on the
entire lawn now?
2) Can I also seed most of the lawn in combination with 1) now?

I guess what I am asking is that is there an alternative to killing all
the weeds with straight weed killer, waiting for them to die off, then
seeding and fertilizing? Most of the lawn care plans I see state to
ferilize/seed now, and apply weedkiller/fertilizer in the spring. But I
do not want to fertilize the weeds now!




[email protected] 24-08-2005 05:39 PM

I do. Height? Self-propelled mower half way up. ~3 inches?

Doug Kanter wrote:
Who mows your lawn, and at what height?

wrote in message
oups.com...
Hello group,
I am 1 hour north of New York City.
This year, my lawn has become overrun with crabgrass and other nasty
weeds. There are areas that are mostly weed, and areas that are mostly
grass(bluegrass/rye). This has not occurred in the 7 years I have been
here. Anyway, I would like to take some action now if possible. I have
a 100x100ft lot with my home on it.

1) Is there any fertilizer combo weed killer that I can put down on the
entire lawn now?
2) Can I also seed most of the lawn in combination with 1) now?

I guess what I am asking is that is there an alternative to killing all
the weeds with straight weed killer, waiting for them to die off, then
seeding and fertilizing? Most of the lawn care plans I see state to
ferilize/seed now, and apply weedkiller/fertilizer in the spring. But I
do not want to fertilize the weeds now!



Doug Kanter 24-08-2005 06:11 PM

OK. I asked because that's an important factor in minimizing weed growth:
Higher grass. During hot, dry weather, many grass varieties grow more
slowly, and the weeds are more easily able to dominate. I can't help you
with your questions about weed killers, because I won't use them. But,
however you achieve your goal, you may want to mow higher and less often
during hot weather. You may wonder if the neighbors think the lawn looks
ratty, but they really don't care, unless it gets totally out of hand.
Having said that, you may correct me if Westchester has Neat Lawn Death
Squads wandering the streets. :-)

wrote in message
oups.com...
I do. Height? Self-propelled mower half way up. ~3 inches?

Doug Kanter wrote:
Who mows your lawn, and at what height?

wrote in message
oups.com...
Hello group,
I am 1 hour north of New York City.
This year, my lawn has become overrun with crabgrass and other nasty
weeds. There are areas that are mostly weed, and areas that are mostly
grass(bluegrass/rye). This has not occurred in the 7 years I have been
here. Anyway, I would like to take some action now if possible. I have
a 100x100ft lot with my home on it.

1) Is there any fertilizer combo weed killer that I can put down on the
entire lawn now?
2) Can I also seed most of the lawn in combination with 1) now?

I guess what I am asking is that is there an alternative to killing all
the weeds with straight weed killer, waiting for them to die off, then
seeding and fertilizing? Most of the lawn care plans I see state to
ferilize/seed now, and apply weedkiller/fertilizer in the spring. But I
do not want to fertilize the weeds now!





[email protected] 25-08-2005 12:32 AM

This year, my lawn has become overrun with crabgrass and other nasty
weeds. There are areas that are mostly weed, and areas that are mostly
grass(bluegrass/rye). This has not occurred in the 7 years I have been
here. Anyway, I would like to take some action now if possible. I have
a 100x100ft lot with my home on it.

The beginning of the ideal time to seed is still 2+ weeks away. I'd
treat the weed problems now and then over-seed if necessary in 3-4
weeks. If the lawn has been doing well until now, you may not even
need to do the seeding. I'd use a tank sprayer and treat the broadlead
weeds with a product like Weed B Gone and I'd use Acclaim on the
crabgrass. Don't apply the broadlead weedkiller on the crabgrass with
the Acclaim, it will reduce the effectiveness. Also, these work best
if the weeds and grass are actively growing, ie, you don't want it
extremely dry. If you do this now, you can do any overseeding in 3-4
weeks. If you want the option of overseeding, then I'd apply a starter
fertilizer in early Sept. That will get the existing grass going too.

As Doug suggested, cutting the grass high in the future is a good
practice. But when you're over-seeding, you want to cut it relatively
short before seeding.


Doug Kanter 25-08-2005 02:04 PM

wrote in message
oups.com...

As Doug suggested, cutting the grass high in the future is a good
practice. But when you're over-seeding, you want to cut it relatively
short before seeding.


Right. And, if you manually rip out weeds in certain spots, leaving them
bare, get yourself some burlap and a way of holding it in place (bricks,
baseball-size rocks). Burlap shades the area so it stays damp longer, like
when you're away at work and can't cater to the seed for 8-10 hours at a
time. And, it protects the seeds from birds. The new grass will grow through
the holes, and you can lift the burlap off easily at that point. It also
breaks up the sprinkler spray or rain so seed won't get splattered out of
place.

It's nuts to consider burlap for a whole lawn, obviously, but it's a great
tool for selected spots.



[email protected] 25-08-2005 02:14 PM

Northern Putnam County does not have Neat Lawn Death Squads. What we
have here are Neat Lawn Obsessive Compulsive wives.I dont worry about
the neighbors, the grass is no greener on the other side. I didn't mow
for 3 weeks straight this Aug due to lack o rain.

Doug Kanter wrote:
OK. I asked because that's an important factor in minimizing weed growth:
Higher grass. During hot, dry weather, many grass varieties grow more
slowly, and the weeds are more easily able to dominate. I can't help you
with your questions about weed killers, because I won't use them. But,
however you achieve your goal, you may want to mow higher and less often
during hot weather. You may wonder if the neighbors think the lawn looks
ratty, but they really don't care, unless it gets totally out of hand.
Having said that, you may correct me if Westchester has Neat Lawn Death
Squads wandering the streets. :-)

wrote in message
oups.com...
I do. Height? Self-propelled mower half way up. ~3 inches?

Doug Kanter wrote:
Who mows your lawn, and at what height?

wrote in message
oups.com...
Hello group,
I am 1 hour north of New York City.
This year, my lawn has become overrun with crabgrass and other nasty
weeds. There are areas that are mostly weed, and areas that are mostly
grass(bluegrass/rye). This has not occurred in the 7 years I have been
here. Anyway, I would like to take some action now if possible. I have
a 100x100ft lot with my home on it.

1) Is there any fertilizer combo weed killer that I can put down on the
entire lawn now?
2) Can I also seed most of the lawn in combination with 1) now?

I guess what I am asking is that is there an alternative to killing all
the weeds with straight weed killer, waiting for them to die off, then
seeding and fertilizing? Most of the lawn care plans I see state to
ferilize/seed now, and apply weedkiller/fertilizer in the spring. But I
do not want to fertilize the weeds now!




Doug Kanter 25-08-2005 02:57 PM

The wives are probably worse than the death squads.

wrote in message
oups.com...
Northern Putnam County does not have Neat Lawn Death Squads. What we
have here are Neat Lawn Obsessive Compulsive wives.I dont worry about
the neighbors, the grass is no greener on the other side. I didn't mow
for 3 weeks straight this Aug due to lack o rain.

Doug Kanter wrote:
OK. I asked because that's an important factor in minimizing weed growth:
Higher grass. During hot, dry weather, many grass varieties grow more
slowly, and the weeds are more easily able to dominate. I can't help you
with your questions about weed killers, because I won't use them. But,
however you achieve your goal, you may want to mow higher and less often
during hot weather. You may wonder if the neighbors think the lawn looks
ratty, but they really don't care, unless it gets totally out of hand.
Having said that, you may correct me if Westchester has Neat Lawn Death
Squads wandering the streets. :-)

wrote in message
oups.com...
I do. Height? Self-propelled mower half way up. ~3 inches?

Doug Kanter wrote:
Who mows your lawn, and at what height?

wrote in message
oups.com...
Hello group,
I am 1 hour north of New York City.
This year, my lawn has become overrun with crabgrass and other nasty
weeds. There are areas that are mostly weed, and areas that are
mostly
grass(bluegrass/rye). This has not occurred in the 7 years I have
been
here. Anyway, I would like to take some action now if possible. I
have
a 100x100ft lot with my home on it.

1) Is there any fertilizer combo weed killer that I can put down on
the
entire lawn now?
2) Can I also seed most of the lawn in combination with 1) now?

I guess what I am asking is that is there an alternative to killing
all
the weeds with straight weed killer, waiting for them to die off,
then
seeding and fertilizing? Most of the lawn care plans I see state to
ferilize/seed now, and apply weedkiller/fertilizer in the spring.
But I
do not want to fertilize the weeds now!






JMG 27-08-2005 04:48 PM

wrote:
This year, my lawn has become overrun with crabgrass and other nasty
weeds. There are areas that are mostly weed, and areas that are mostly
grass(bluegrass/rye). This has not occurred in the 7 years I have been
here. Anyway, I would like to take some action now if possible. I have
a 100x100ft lot with my home on it.

The beginning of the ideal time to seed is still 2+ weeks away. I'd
treat the weed problems now and then over-seed if necessary in 3-4
weeks. If the lawn has been doing well until now, you may not even
need to do the seeding. I'd use a tank sprayer and treat the
broadlead weeds with a product like Weed B Gone and I'd use Acclaim
on the crabgrass. Don't apply the broadlead weedkiller on the
crabgrass with the Acclaim, it will reduce the effectiveness. Also,
these work best if the weeds and grass are actively growing, ie, you
don't want it extremely dry. If you do this now, you can do any
overseeding in 3-4 weeks. If you want the option of overseeding,
then I'd apply a starter fertilizer in early Sept. That will get the
existing grass going too.

As Doug suggested, cutting the grass high in the future is a good
practice. But when you're over-seeding, you want to cut it relatively
short before seeding.


Can you purchase Acclaim via a retail store? If so, where?

- John



Bert Byfield 28-08-2005 05:04 AM

Just pull them out of the ground and throw them in the trash that is hauled
away.




[email protected] 29-08-2005 02:35 PM

Can you purchase Acclaim via a retail store? If so, where?

Try Lesco, they should have a location near you or via online.



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