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Steveo 15-09-2006 11:26 PM

Ping Eggs
 
Have you ever planted crown vetch from seed?

Eggs Zachtly 16-09-2006 03:26 AM

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Steveo said:

Have you ever planted crown vetch from seed?


Yup. Getting ready to fix some nitrogen somewhere? =)

Coronilla varia is a pretty useful plant, as are most legumes. But, it can
get outta hand VERY easily, especially once it's established and starts
sending out rhizomes.

Fresh seed is the best. If it's been stored, it's best to soak it for 12
hours or so, in warm water. Direct sow it in the fall, and it should
germinate rather quickly. It also won't grow in the shade, IIRC.

Apologies for the delay in replying. I left the house at 0430, and just got
home, sigh. =/

HTH
--
Eggs

Do vegetarians eat animal crackers?

Steveo 16-09-2006 03:58 AM

Ping Eggs
 
wrote:
Steveo said:

Have you ever planted crown vetch from seed?


Yup. Getting ready to fix some nitrogen somewhere? =)

Coronilla varia is a pretty useful plant, as are most legumes. But, it
can get outta hand VERY easily, especially once it's established and
starts sending out rhizomes.

Fresh seed is the best. If it's been stored, it's best to soak it for 12
hours or so, in warm water. Direct sow it in the fall, and it should
germinate rather quickly. It also won't grow in the shade, IIRC.

Apologies for the delay in replying. I left the house at 0430, and just
got home, sigh. =/

HTH

Yeah good to go with your advice so far man. I inoculated the seed using
milk and molasses for the slurry and planted it 10 days ago on a drainage
culvert here in N. Ohio. It's coming up like gang busters so I'm good to go
with germination.

My question is.. should I re-straw it right before old man frost shows up
in order to protect it? It won't go to seed this year and the plants are
barely creeping through the cover straw today. I'm late in the season for
establishment, and yet perfect for germination if you get my drift.

Will it re-grow from the young tubar's next spring?

Eggs Zachtly 16-09-2006 05:58 AM

Ping Eggs
 
Steveo said:

wrote:
Steveo said:

Have you ever planted crown vetch from seed?


Yup. Getting ready to fix some nitrogen somewhere? =)

Coronilla varia is a pretty useful plant, as are most legumes. But, it
can get outta hand VERY easily, especially once it's established and
starts sending out rhizomes.

Fresh seed is the best. If it's been stored, it's best to soak it for 12
hours or so, in warm water. Direct sow it in the fall, and it should
germinate rather quickly. It also won't grow in the shade, IIRC.

Apologies for the delay in replying. I left the house at 0430, and just
got home, sigh. =/

HTH

Yeah good to go with your advice so far man. I inoculated the seed using
milk and molasses for the slurry and planted it 10 days ago on a drainage
culvert here in N. Ohio. It's coming up like gang busters so I'm good to go
with germination.


Perhaps a bit early on your planting, though. Any chance to reseed at a
more "natural" time? And, what rate did you sow? I think the MoDOT uses
15lb per acre, along highways and ditches, here.


My question is.. should I re-straw it right before old man frost shows up
in order to protect it? It won't go to seed this year and the plants are
barely creeping through the cover straw today. I'm late in the season for
establishment, and yet perfect for germination if you get my drift.


Ya, but germination at an un-natural time. Fall sowing is optimum because
that's when the seeds sow, naturally. Straw would be a good idea. It's a
perennial, so seeding the first year (which it rarely does) is pretty much
moot. Protect those roots! ;)


Will it re-grow from the young tubar's next spring?


Lemme check my crystal ball... =P

Seriously, *some* will probably survive. We're talking an extremely short
growing season. A lot depends on the weather. A late winter gives the
plants more time to mature. Likewise, with a mild winter. OTOH, it could go
the other way. Anything you can do to help them is better for the plant,
and less work for you. ;) Get through this first winter with it, and it
will go like gangbusters next year. =)

--
Eggs

-Every snowflake in an avalanche pleads not guilty.

[email protected] 16-09-2006 04:05 PM

Ping Eggs
 
I planted from seed after a brief freezing of the seed in late autumn.
It germinated in the early spring. Now I am battling to keep in place.
It is difficult to keep from encroaching upon unwanted locations. So be
careful with this one!
Bittersweet

Eggs Zachtly wrote:
Steveo said:

Have you ever planted crown vetch from seed?


Yup. Getting ready to fix some nitrogen somewhere? =)

Coronilla varia is a pretty useful plant, as are most legumes. But, it can
get outta hand VERY easily, especially once it's established and starts
sending out rhizomes.

Fresh seed is the best. If it's been stored, it's best to soak it for 12
hours or so, in warm water. Direct sow it in the fall, and it should
germinate rather quickly. It also won't grow in the shade, IIRC.

Apologies for the delay in replying. I left the house at 0430, and just got
home, sigh. =/

HTH
--
Eggs

Do vegetarians eat animal crackers?



Steveo 18-09-2006 12:18 PM

Ping Eggs
 
wrote:
Steveo said:

Yeah good to go with your advice so far man. I inoculated the seed
using milk and molasses for the slurry and planted it 10 days ago on a
drainage culvert here in N. Ohio. It's coming up like gang busters so
I'm good to go with germination.


Perhaps a bit early on your planting, though. Any chance to reseed at a
more "natural" time? And, what rate did you sow? I think the MoDOT uses
15lb per acre, along highways and ditches, here.

Early? Most of the on-line instruction I could find suggested fall sowing,
and the weather has been near perfect for it..germination looks really
good. I'll straw it again right before the first frost to try and extend
its growing season and help protect it.

Thanks man.

Steveo 18-09-2006 12:20 PM

Ping Eggs
 
" wrote:
I planted from seed after a brief freezing of the seed in late autumn.
It germinated in the early spring. Now I am battling to keep in place.
It is difficult to keep from encroaching upon unwanted locations. So be
careful with this one!
Bittersweet

Yeah it's on a drainage ditch not close to much of anything else. I've
heard three way herbicide controls it, so I'll find out in a year or two.

Eggs Zachtly 18-09-2006 09:53 PM

Ping Eggs
 
Steveo said:

wrote:
Steveo said:

Yeah good to go with your advice so far man. I inoculated the seed
using milk and molasses for the slurry and planted it 10 days ago on a
drainage culvert here in N. Ohio. It's coming up like gang busters so
I'm good to go with germination.


Perhaps a bit early on your planting, though. Any chance to reseed at a
more "natural" time? And, what rate did you sow? I think the MoDOT uses
15lb per acre, along highways and ditches, here.

Early? Most of the on-line instruction I could find suggested fall sowing,
and the weather has been near perfect for it..germination looks really
good. I'll straw it again right before the first frost to try and extend
its growing season and help protect it.


Just saying that it's not quite fall. Crown vetch around here doesn't
really drop it's seeds until mid-late October, IIRC. When's your first
frost?

--
Eggs

Do Lipton employees take coffee breaks?

Steveo 19-09-2006 11:53 AM

Ping Eggs
 
wrote:
Steveo said:

wrote:
Steveo said:

Yeah good to go with your advice so far man. I inoculated the seed
using milk and molasses for the slurry and planted it 10 days ago on
a drainage culvert here in N. Ohio. It's coming up like gang busters
so I'm good to go with germination.

Perhaps a bit early on your planting, though. Any chance to reseed at
a more "natural" time? And, what rate did you sow? I think the MoDOT
uses 15lb per acre, along highways and ditches, here.

Early? Most of the on-line instruction I could find suggested fall
sowing, and the weather has been near perfect for it..germination looks
really good. I'll straw it again right before the first frost to try
and extend its growing season and help protect it.


Just saying that it's not quite fall. Crown vetch around here doesn't
really drop it's seeds until mid-late October, IIRC. When's your first
frost?

In a few weeks usually. The plants won't be anywhere near mature by then,
they're only about a half inch tall right now..


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