problem Willow
This past winter, I removed a problem willow tree that was blowing so badly
it threatened my house should it decide to fall. Shortly thereafter, I built a low deck, whose corner covers most of the stump to within about 10 inches of the top of what remains (which was about 18" high). I have removed trees before and stumps have just stayed that way - stumps. Willows, however appear to be a little more resilient than say, cedars or firs. The willow has continued to grow despite my desire that it not, and I have dozens of new starts from the stump shooting up through and around my new deck. I have tried digging up the portions of the stump that I could reach and severing them from the roots, but that has been ineffective. I keep cutting them down every couple of weeks, but woudl like to find a more permanent solution. What I need to do is find a way to kill the willow - roots and all. If anyone is familiar with this problem, or just knows of somethign that will kill a large former tree, I would be very interested in hearing what you have to say. Thanks |
problem Willow
"Loren" u27944@uwe wrote in message news:67ddd425d38ac@uwe... This past winter, I removed a problem willow tree that was blowing so badly it threatened my house should it decide to fall. Shortly thereafter, I built a low deck, whose corner covers most of the stump to within about 10 inches of the top of what remains (which was about 18" high). I have removed trees before and stumps have just stayed that way - stumps. Willows, however appear to be a little more resilient than say, cedars or firs. The willow has continued to grow despite my desire that it not, and I have dozens of new starts from the stump shooting up through and around my new deck. I have tried digging up the portions of the stump that I could reach and severing them from the roots, but that has been ineffective. I keep cutting them down every couple of weeks, but woudl like to find a more permanent solution. What I need to do is find a way to kill the willow - roots and all. If anyone is familiar with this problem, or just knows of somethign that will kill a large former tree, I would be very interested in hearing what you have to say. Thanks have you tried roundup on the tender new shoots? |
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I have tried roundup, but likely not in the quantities that might be
necessary. I will give that a shot. Don wrote: This past winter, I removed a problem willow tree that was blowing so badly [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] Thanks have you tried roundup on the tender new shoots? |
problem Willow
Other than chemicals, the only thing that has worked for me is persistence with pruners. The roots can't survive without photosynthesis, take away the leaves constantly and consistently and the roots will starve to death. |
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Loren wrote:
This past winter, I removed a problem willow tree that was blowing so badly it threatened my house should it decide to fall. Shortly thereafter, I built a low deck, whose corner covers most of the stump to within about 10 inches of the top of what remains (which was about 18" high). I have removed trees before and stumps have just stayed that way - stumps. Willows, however appear to be a little more resilient than say, cedars or firs. The willow has continued to grow despite my desire that it not, and I have dozens of new starts from the stump shooting up through and around my new deck. I have tried digging up the portions of the stump that I could reach and severing them from the roots, but that has been ineffective. I keep cutting them down every couple of weeks, but woudl like to find a more permanent solution. What I need to do is find a way to kill the willow - roots and all. If anyone is familiar with this problem, or just knows of somethign that will kill a large former tree, I would be very interested in hearing what you have to say. Thanks I found this: the stump can be killed as follows: Bore holes at a slanting angle around the top of the stump. The holes should be about one and one-half inches in diameter and from eight to ten inches deep. Fill them with salt peter (nitrate of potash) or a commercial stump-killing product. The material will spread through the stump and prevent sucker growth from appearing. If the stump has green foliage growth on it now, you can apply a Blackberry Vine or Brush Killer to the foliage as a first step. Be sure this material does not touch any desirable vegetation, except the plant suckers you are trying to destroy. Read and follow label instructions. |
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"A. Pismo Clam" wrote in message ... Loren wrote: This past winter, I removed a problem willow tree that was blowing so badly it threatened my house should it decide to fall. Shortly thereafter, I built a low deck, whose corner covers most of the stump to within about 10 inches of the top of what remains (which was about 18" high). I have removed trees before and stumps have just stayed that way - stumps. Willows, however appear to be a little more resilient than say, cedars or firs. The willow has continued to grow despite my desire that it not, and I have dozens of new starts from the stump shooting up through and around my new deck. I have tried digging up the portions of the stump that I could reach and severing them from the roots, but that has been ineffective. I keep cutting them down every couple of weeks, but woudl like to find a more permanent solution. What I need to do is find a way to kill the willow - roots and all. If anyone is familiar with this problem, or just knows of somethign that will kill a large former tree, I would be very interested in hearing what you have to say. Thanks I found this: the stump can be killed as follows: Bore holes at a slanting angle around the top of the stump. The holes should be about one and one-half inches in diameter and from eight to ten inches deep. Just how are we drilling holes that size these days ? Fill them with salt peter (nitrate of potash) or a commercial stump-killing product. The material will spread through the stump and prevent sucker growth from appearing. If the stump has green foliage growth on it now, you can apply a Blackberry Vine or Brush Killer to the foliage as a first step. Be sure this material does not touch any desirable vegetation, except the plant suckers you are trying to destroy. Read and follow label instructions. |
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Srgnt Billko wrote:
"A. Pismo Clam" wrote in message ... Loren wrote: This past winter, I removed a problem willow tree that was blowing so badly it threatened my house should it decide to fall. Shortly thereafter, I built a low deck, whose corner covers most of the stump to within about 10 inches of the top of what remains (which was about 18" high). I have removed trees before and stumps have just stayed that way - stumps. Willows, however appear to be a little more resilient than say, cedars or firs. The willow has continued to grow despite my desire that it not, and I have dozens of new starts from the stump shooting up through and around my new deck. I have tried digging up the portions of the stump that I could reach and severing them from the roots, but that has been ineffective. I keep cutting them down every couple of weeks, but woudl like to find a more permanent solution. What I need to do is find a way to kill the willow - roots and all. If anyone is familiar with this problem, or just knows of somethign that will kill a large former tree, I would be very interested in hearing what you have to say. Thanks I found this: the stump can be killed as follows: Bore holes at a slanting angle around the top of the stump. The holes should be about one and one-half inches in diameter and from eight to ten inches deep. Just how are we drilling holes that size these days ? Electric drill with a 1" auger bit. Willow is a soft wood anyway. I've drilled 1" holes in a 36" dia. Elm stump with a Ryobi 18 volt cordless. I had to change the batteries more than usual, but it worked. Fill them with salt peter (nitrate of potash) or a commercial stump-killing product. The material will spread through the stump and prevent sucker growth from appearing. If the stump has green foliage growth on it now, you can apply a Blackberry Vine or Brush Killer to the foliage as a first step. Be sure this material does not touch any desirable vegetation, except the plant suckers you are trying to destroy. Read and follow label instructions. -- Bill in Hamptonburgh, NY To email, delete the double zeroes after @ |
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"Eric in North Texas" wrote in message oups.com... Other than chemicals, the only thing that has worked for me is persistence with pruners. The roots can't survive without photosynthesis, take away the leaves constantly and consistently and the roots will starve to death. My suggestion is roundup concentrate. Pour it FULL strength on the tree, but before, very very important, is to drill and many deep holes in the stump as you can, and fill the holes with it. |
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Mike said:
"Eric in North Texas" wrote in message oups.com... Other than chemicals, the only thing that has worked for me is persistence with pruners. The roots can't survive without photosynthesis, take away the leaves constantly and consistently and the roots will starve to death. My suggestion is roundup concentrate. Pour it FULL strength on the tree, [snip] NEVER use a concentrate "full strength". It's a "concentrate" for a reason. It needs to be mixed with water to be safe, and to be effective. -- Eggs -Did you know that dolphins are so intelligent that within only a few weeks of captivity, they can train Americans to stand at the very edge of the pool and throw them fish. |
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"Eggs Zachtly" wrote in message ... Mike said: "Eric in North Texas" wrote in message oups.com... Other than chemicals, the only thing that has worked for me is persistence with pruners. The roots can't survive without photosynthesis, take away the leaves constantly and consistently and the roots will starve to death. My suggestion is roundup concentrate. Pour it FULL strength on the tree, [snip] NEVER use a concentrate "full strength". It's a "concentrate" for a reason. It needs to be mixed with water to be safe, and to be effective. -- Eggs The bottle of roundup concentrate has instructions for using it full strength. |
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"Chas Hurst" wrote:
"Eggs Zachtly" wrote in message ... Mike said: "Eric in North Texas" wrote in message oups.com... Other than chemicals, the only thing that has worked for me is persistence with pruners. The roots can't survive without photosynthesis, take away the leaves constantly and consistently and the roots will starve to death. My suggestion is roundup concentrate. Pour it FULL strength on the tree, [snip] NEVER use a concentrate "full strength". It's a "concentrate" for a reason. It needs to be mixed with water to be safe, and to be effective. -- Eggs The bottle of roundup concentrate has instructions for using it full strength. I'd try painting it on the new growth full strength..willow's are tuff stuff. |
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"Eggs Zachtly" wrote in message ... Mike said: "Eric in North Texas" wrote in message oups.com... Other than chemicals, the only thing that has worked for me is persistence with pruners. The roots can't survive without photosynthesis, take away the leaves constantly and consistently and the roots will starve to death. My suggestion is roundup concentrate. Pour it FULL strength on the tree, [snip] NEVER use a concentrate "full strength". It's a "concentrate" for a reason. It needs to be mixed with water to be safe, and to be effective. SOME consumer products have instructions for use at full strength, and in this case roundup does for extremely problem weeds/vegitation. The roundup concentrate that sits in my shop should never be put on at full strength, becasue it would probably burn a hole straight through the earth, and is WAY too concentrated. |
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"Mike" wrote:
The roundup concentrate that sits in my shop should never be put on at full strength, becasue it would probably burn a hole straight through the earth, Hey.. maybe next thing you know 'up from the ground comes a bubbling crude' just like Jed! Load up the truck and book for Beverly Hills! :) |
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"Steveo" wrote in message ... "Mike" wrote: The roundup concentrate that sits in my shop should never be put on at full strength, becasue it would probably burn a hole straight through the earth, Hey.. maybe next thing you know 'up from the ground comes a bubbling crude' just like Jed! Load up the truck and book for Beverly Hills! :) Hmmmmm but then the MOE would probably pull up and give me a large fine and take all my oil! |
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Thanks everyone. I've got some good ideas here and will give them a try.
I'll be back if I can't get it to work. In your vaired experiences, How long does this generally take to kill off the tree? -- Message posted via HomeKB.com http://www.homekb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/gardens/200610/1 |
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I found this: the stump can be killed as follows: Bore holes at a slanting angle around the top of the stump. The holes should be about one and one-half inches in diameter and from eight to ten inches deep. Just how are we drilling holes that size these days ? Fill them with salt peter (nitrate of potash) or a commercial stump-killing product. The material will spread through the stump and prevent sucker growth from appearing. If the stump has green foliage growth on it now, you can apply a Blackberry Vine or Brush Killer to the foliage as a first step. Be sure this material does not touch any desirable vegetation, except the plant suckers you are trying to destroy. Read and follow label instructions. You can get a "speed-bore" bit at HD or Lowe's or any hardware store for 1 1/2". They work great in a 1/2" drill motor. If all you have is a 3/8" variable speed drill motor, begin by using a slower speed, then increase speed as you go deeper. BTW, since the post has returned an abundance of votes for using RoundUp, why not save yourself a lot of money and use a product called, "Remuda", from Monterey Lawn & Garden. Here in San Diego, RoundUp costs $90 a gallon; Remuda costs $44. When the patent ran out on Monsanto's formula, Monterey picked up the ball and made the same stuff. Sew the link below: http://search.atomz.com/search/?sp-q...1ee-sp00000002 |
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A. Pismo Clam said:
I found this: the stump can be killed as follows: Bore holes at a slanting angle around the top of the stump. The holes should be about one and one-half inches in diameter and from eight to ten inches deep. Just how are we drilling holes that size these days ? Fill them with salt peter (nitrate of potash) or a commercial stump-killing product. The material will spread through the stump and prevent sucker growth from appearing. If the stump has green foliage growth on it now, you can apply a Blackberry Vine or Brush Killer to the foliage as a first step. Be sure this material does not touch any desirable vegetation, except the plant suckers you are trying to destroy. Read and follow label instructions. You can get a "speed-bore" bit at HD or Lowe's or any hardware store for 1 1/2". They work great in a 1/2" drill motor. If all you have is a 3/8" variable speed drill motor, begin by using a slower speed, then increase speed as you go deeper. BTW, since the post has returned an abundance of votes for using RoundUp, why not save yourself a lot of money and use a product called, "Remuda", from Monterey Lawn & Garden. Here in San Diego, RoundUp costs $90 a gallon; Remuda costs $44. When the patent ran out on Monsanto's formula, Monterey picked up the ball and made the same stuff. Sew the link below: http://search.atomz.com/search/?sp-q...1ee-sp00000002 Yup. Spending the money on Roundup, because of the name, is foolish anymore. Look on the label for Glyphosate. (Check the strength, though. There are some weaker solutions, which will cost you more in the long run.) Good advice. =) -- Eggs -Opportunities always look bigger going than coming. |
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Mike said:
"Eggs Zachtly" wrote in message ... Mike said: "Eric in North Texas" wrote in message oups.com... Other than chemicals, the only thing that has worked for me is persistence with pruners. The roots can't survive without photosynthesis, take away the leaves constantly and consistently and the roots will starve to death. My suggestion is roundup concentrate. Pour it FULL strength on the tree, [snip] NEVER use a concentrate "full strength". It's a "concentrate" for a reason. It needs to be mixed with water to be safe, and to be effective. SOME consumer products have instructions for use at full strength, and in this case roundup does for extremely problem weeds/vegitation. The roundup concentrate that sits in my shop should never be put on at full strength, becasue it would probably burn a hole straight through the earth, and is WAY too concentrated. Same here. Wicked stuff. Guess I really wanted to say, "Read the entire label, twice.". =) -- Eggs Do vegetarians eat animal crackers? |
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"Mike" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message ... "Mike" wrote: The roundup concentrate that sits in my shop should never be put on at full strength, becasue it would probably burn a hole straight through the earth, Hey.. maybe next thing you know 'up from the ground comes a bubbling crude' just like Jed! Load up the truck and book for Beverly Hills! :) Hmmmmm but then the MOE would probably pull up and give me a large fine and take all my oil! Taliban? |
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"A. Pismo Clam" wrote:
"Remuda", from Monterey Lawn & Garden. Here in San Diego, RoundUp costs $90 a gallon; Remuda costs $44. **** watered round-up. whoopie. -- http://NewsReader.Com/ |
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"Steveo" wrote in message ... "Mike" wrote: "Steveo" wrote in message ... "Mike" wrote: The roundup concentrate that sits in my shop should never be put on at full strength, becasue it would probably burn a hole straight through the earth, Hey.. maybe next thing you know 'up from the ground comes a bubbling crude' just like Jed! Load up the truck and book for Beverly Hills! :) Hmmmmm but then the MOE would probably pull up and give me a large fine and take all my oil! Taliban? haha no ministry of environment. Use of a pesticide off label can be big big money up here. |
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"Loren via HomeKB.com" u27944@uwe wrote in message news:67e8d9355824a@uwe... Thanks everyone. I've got some good ideas here and will give them a try. I'll be back if I can't get it to work. In your vaired experiences, How long does this generally take to kill off the tree? What I do is this, drill holes in the tree stump, fill with roundup, repeat a few times then burry the stump in some dirt. Come back a month later and you can almost pull the stump out by hand. |
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"Mike" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message Taliban? haha no ministry of environment. Use of a pesticide off label can be big big money up here. Hey all we need is N Korea to agree now! ha -- http://NewsReader.Com/ |
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"Mike" wrote:
"Loren via HomeKB.com" u27944@uwe wrote in message news:67e8d9355824a@uwe... Thanks everyone. I've got some good ideas here and will give them a try. I'll be back if I can't get it to work. In your vaired experiences, How long does this generally take to kill off the tree? What I do is this, drill holes in the tree stump, fill with roundup, repeat a few times then burry the stump in some dirt. Come back a month later and you can almost pull the stump out by hand. How much to have it ground down should be your next question, but carry on. -- http://NewsReader.Com/ |
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like others, i run a sapling war all year long with roundup. it doesnt
really kill the stump to fast ,but eventually will (years) because if it cant have leaves it cant live. have long fence rows and find it easier to spray saplings when little rather than cutting them down when big. lucas http://www.minibite.com/america/malone.htm |
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The issue is that it is mostly under a low deck, so traditional grinding is
not really an option. Steveo wrote: Thanks everyone. I've got some good ideas here and will give them a try. I'll be back if I can't get it to work. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] repeat a few times then burry the stump in some dirt. Come back a month later and you can almost pull the stump out by hand. How much to have it ground down should be your next question, but carry on. -- Message posted via HomeKB.com http://www.homekb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/gardens/200610/1 |
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"Steveo" wrote in message ... "Mike" wrote: "Loren via HomeKB.com" u27944@uwe wrote in message news:67e8d9355824a@uwe... Thanks everyone. I've got some good ideas here and will give them a try. I'll be back if I can't get it to work. In your vaired experiences, How long does this generally take to kill off the tree? What I do is this, drill holes in the tree stump, fill with roundup, repeat a few times then burry the stump in some dirt. Come back a month later and you can almost pull the stump out by hand. How much to have it ground down should be your next question, but carry on. Under a deck though? |
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Mike said:
"Steveo" wrote in message ... "Mike" wrote: "Loren via HomeKB.com" u27944@uwe wrote in message news:67e8d9355824a@uwe... Thanks everyone. I've got some good ideas here and will give them a try. I'll be back if I can't get it to work. In your vaired experiences, How long does this generally take to kill off the tree? What I do is this, drill holes in the tree stump, fill with roundup, repeat a few times then burry the stump in some dirt. Come back a month later and you can almost pull the stump out by hand. How much to have it ground down should be your next question, but carry on. Under a deck though? It probably should have been ground out prior to building the deck, but I suppose that's moot. =) If the deck is screwed together, it should still be an option. Perhaps a bit labor-intensive, but an option nonetheless. Simply a matter of numbering the undersides of the boards, as they're removed to make it easy to replace them. The problem I see with using some chemical to "dissolve" the stump, would possibly lead to a stability problem with the deck. Nothing like a nice cavity appearing under a foundation. Which actually brings up the question of whether or not removing the stump from the ground will cause damage to the deck's support areas. Sure, you could kill it off with some Roundup, but there's still the remains of the stump to be dealt with. A pic of the area would be a plus. =) -- Eggs -It is easier to get forgiveness than permission. |
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Admiting that in hindsight, it should have been ground before the deck. But
as I mentioned in the initial post, I had taken out stumps before and they had stayed just stumps for years. So cutting this low enough to build a deck over did not seem like an issue. I would have an ugly stump, but it would be under the deck and never seen. I just wasn't familiar with WIllows - I am now. Don't know why I felt the need to explain this... Maybe b/c I appreciate the help. Eggs Zachtly wrote: Mike said: Under a deck though? It probably should have been ground out prior to building the deck, but I suppose that's moot. =) -- Message posted via HomeKB.com http://www.homekb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/gardens/200610/1 |
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I'll get a pic to illustrate.
Thanks -- Message posted via HomeKB.com http://www.homekb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/gardens/200610/1 |
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"Loren via HomeKB.com" u27944@uwe wrote:
The issue is that it is mostly under a low deck, so traditional grinding is not really an option. Well it was probably an option before you built a deck over it eh? :-) Don't tell anyone but I've killed one of those willow stumps with kerosene in small regular doses. There wasn't deck over it though, and I was able to set it on fire eventually..it took better than a year to finally die. You can't let the kerosene get on the surrounding grass or plant material. -- http://NewsReader.Com/ |
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"Mike" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message How much to have it ground down should be your next question, but carry on. Under a deck though? How far under, and are there posts in the way? -- http://NewsReader.Com/ |
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Loren via HomeKB.com said: Eggs Zachtly wrote: Mike said: Under a deck though? It probably should have been ground out prior to building the deck, but I suppose that's moot. =) Admiting that in hindsight, it should have been ground before the deck. But as I mentioned in the initial post, I had taken out stumps before and they had stayed just stumps for years. So cutting this low enough to build a deck over did not seem like an issue. I would have an ugly stump, but it would be under the deck and never seen. I just wasn't familiar with WIllows - I am now. 'Tis why I said it was "moot". But, you still haven't answered, as to my other points. Is the deck screwed together, so that it could be partially disassembled, in order to grind out the stump? Is the stump situated in a position, so that were you to remove it, you would be jeopardizing the integrity of the deck? Don't know why I felt the need to explain this... Maybe b/c I appreciate the help. Yup, was no reason to explain. "Manure occurs." ;) -- Eggs Can a storm be officially designated as a tornado without touching down at a trailer park? |
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The decking is screwed on but the joists are nailed. Taking the decking off
woudl get me better access for drilling, but not allow a grinder. ALso withthe grinder - my house sits significantly above the street and alley. There is not ramp, driveway or hill to roll anything up - only stairs and retaining walls, so it woudl be difficult to get any type of serious grinder up there. I have a picture, its not a great one, but if it possible to upload to this site and someone can tutor me how to do it, I would get it up for viewing. Thanks -- Message posted via HomeKB.com http://www.homekb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/gardens/200610/1 |
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Loren via HomeKB.com said:
The decking is screwed on but the joists are nailed. Taking the decking off woudl get me better access for drilling, but not allow a grinder. Understood. Still, having as much access to the stump as possible will help, no matter the method you choose. ALso withthe grinder - my house sits significantly above the street and alley. There is not ramp, driveway or hill to roll anything up - only stairs and retaining walls, so it woudl be difficult to get any type of serious grinder up there. "Serious" grinders are self propelled. =) I have a picture, its not a great one, but if it possible to upload to this site and someone can tutor me how to do it, I would get it up for viewing. As this isn't a binary group, it's best to not attach it to a message. Uploading it to one of the miriad of free web sites, and then posting the link to the pic here, would be the best way to go. If you're unsure where to look for one, entering "free image hosting" in your favorite search engine should get you started. HTH -- Eggs -If you're too open-minded, your brains will fall out. |
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Tree AND Internet knowledge. You people are amazing!
Here's the link http://www.fotothing.com/Loren/ As it is now dark when I leave for work as well as when I get home, I wasn't able to get a good daylight picture of the stump. It is deceiving, but there is about 8 inches between the top of the stump and the bottom of the deck. And the stump is about halfway under the deck. There is about a three foot cantilever, so the stump is a good distance away fromt the footing. What you see is about 5 weeks growth. -- Message posted via http://www.homekb.com |
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Loren via HomeKB.com said:
Tree AND Internet knowledge. You people are amazing! Here's the link http://www.fotothing.com/Loren/ As it is now dark when I leave for work as well as when I get home, I wasn't able to get a good daylight picture of the stump. It is deceiving, but there is about 8 inches between the top of the stump and the bottom of the deck. And the stump is about halfway under the deck. There is about a three foot cantilever, so the stump is a good distance away fromt the footing. What you see is about 5 weeks growth. What kind of Salix was this, again? I'm not sure you said. If you did, I can't find it. =( If it were me, I think I'd still opt for removing the section of the deck that's over the stump, and remove it (the stump) properly (grinding). If you're careful, you shouldn't damage any of the joists, when removing/replacing them. -- Eggs A piece of motorway and piece of dual carriage way are enjoying a drink in the pub. In walks a piece of red tarmac. The motorway whispers to the carrageway "Come on lets drink up and go before the trouble starts; He's a cyclepath!" |
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"Loren via HomeKB.com" u27944@uwe wrote in message
news:6804402f2c51d@uwe... Tree AND Internet knowledge. You people are amazing! Here's the link http://www.fotothing.com/Loren/ As it is now dark when I leave for work as well as when I get home, I wasn't able to get a good daylight picture of the stump. It is deceiving, but there is about 8 inches between the top of the stump and the bottom of the deck. And the stump is about halfway under the deck. There is about a three foot cantilever, so the stump is a good distance away fromt the footing. What you see is about 5 weeks growth. Nice picture posting. If it were me I would probably pick off all of the new growth as it buds out of the stump until it finally gives up. This would mean doing it often. The idea is to not let it get this big, which is replenishing the roots with its sunlight generated food. I know that this comment is about different plants, but I do this for big old multiflora stumps that I cut down and also wild grape vines. Both of these persist and I keep at them until they give up and rot out after a couple of years. If I had this problem I would use the same approach and see how it goes, expecting it to work eventually. Tomes |
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