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Danny Noonan 12-08-2007 09:55 PM

Soil test help
 
Here are the results of my lawn soil test. Can you recommend soil
amendments or treatments? Have rye, fescue and bluegrass in central CT.
TIA.

PH 6.0 (plan to add lime)
Nitrogen - Very Low
Phosphorous - High
Potash - Low


KC[_2_] 13-08-2007 04:29 AM

Soil test help
 
On Aug 12, 3:55 pm, "Danny Noonan" wrote:
Here are the results of my lawn soil test. Can you recommend soil
amendments or treatments? Have rye, fescue and bluegrass in central CT.
TIA.

PH 6.0 (plan to add lime)
Nitrogen - Very Low
Phosphorous - High
Potash - Low


Lime now and 15-0-15 fertilizer next spring.

KC


[email protected] 13-08-2007 01:37 PM

Soil test help
 
On Aug 12, 10:29 pm, KC wrote:
On Aug 12, 3:55 pm, "Danny Noonan" wrote:

Here are the results of my lawn soil test. Can you recommend soil
amendments or treatments? Have rye, fescue and bluegrass in central CT.
TIA.


PH 6.0 (plan to add lime)
Nitrogen - Very Low
Phosphorous - High
Potash - Low


Lime now and 15-0-15 fertilizer next spring.

KC


Why wait till Spring to fertilize? Fall is an excellent time to apply
ferilizer and will give you a nice green lawn to look at even in
winter. You need a fertilizer with Nitrogen, and Potash and little
or no Phospate. On the bag, fertilizer is listed as percentages of
NPK, ie X-X-X. Over the season, you want to apply to each 1000 sq
ft:

3 - 4lbs N nitrogen
0 P phosphate
3 - 3.5 K potash

So, if you find a 40 lb bag marked 15-0-15, it contains 6 lbs of N and
6lbs of K, which is enough for 2000 sq ft for the season. I would
apply it divided in 3 applications, one in early Sept, one in late
Oct, one in late Mar/early April. The limestone can be put down
anytime.

To find the right fertilizer, you may need to go to a pro turn product
supplier, like Lesco, as the home centers usually have more balanced
products.





KC[_2_] 14-08-2007 02:58 AM

Soil test help
 
On Aug 13, 7:37 am, wrote:

Lime now and 15-0-15 fertilizer next spring.


KC


Why wait till Spring to fertilize? Fall is an excellent time to apply ferilizer


There are divided opinions on this subject and I gave the one I was
taught. Existing growth benefits but new growth suffers. Rationale is
that nitrogen stimulates new growth late in the season and this growth
does not have time to toughen up before freezes, thus dying.

KC


[email protected] 14-08-2007 12:28 PM

Soil test help
 
On Aug 13, 8:58 pm, KC wrote:
On Aug 13, 7:37 am, wrote:



Lime now and 15-0-15 fertilizer next spring.


KC


Why wait till Spring to fertilize? Fall is an excellent time to apply ferilizer


There are divided opinions on this subject and I gave the one I was
taught. Existing growth benefits but new growth suffers. Rationale is
that nitrogen stimulates new growth late in the season and this growth
does not have time to toughen up before freezes, thus dying.

KC


If you look at the advice of university agricultural services and turf
authorities, I haven't seen any disagreement. In fact, most of them
state that Fall is the best time to fertilize, as there is much less
chance of encouraging disease. If you have any sources that state
otherwise, I'd be happy to see them. And I do it every year on my
lawn and it looks super, nice and green all winter.


Jim 14-08-2007 01:13 PM

Soil test help
 
trader wrote:

KC wrote:
trad wrote:



Lime now and 15-0-15 fertilizer next spring.


KC


Why wait till Spring to fertilize? Fall is an excellent time to apply ferilizer


There are divided opinions on this subject and I gave the one I was
taught. Existing growth benefits but new growth suffers. Rationale is
that nitrogen stimulates new growth late in the season and this growth
does not have time to toughen up before freezes, thus dying.

KC


If you look at the advice of university agricultural services and turf
authorities, I haven't seen any disagreement. In fact, most of them
state that Fall is the best time to fertilize, as there is much less
chance of encouraging disease. If you have any sources that state
otherwise, I'd be happy to see them. And I do it every year on my
lawn and it looks super, nice and green all winter.


your advice is dependent upon the type of turf one is managing.

http://www.super-sod.com/info-guide-bermuda.html
http://www.super-sod.com/info-guide-centipede.html

both are warm season active cool season dormant grasses
yet they have different feeding requirements.


leaving the uninformed uninformed allows for increased
seed and fertilizer sales resulting in an industry net
gain. is it the right thing to do?

KC[_2_] 14-08-2007 04:53 PM

Soil test help
 
On Aug 14, 6:28 am, wrote:
On Aug 13, 8:58 pm, KC wrote:





On Aug 13, 7:37 am, wrote:


Lime now and 15-0-15 fertilizer next spring.


KC


Why wait till Spring to fertilize? Fall is an excellent time to apply ferilizer


There are divided opinions on this subject and I gave the one I was
taught. Existing growth benefits but new growth suffers. Rationale is
that nitrogen stimulates new growth late in the season and this growth
does not have time to toughen up before freezes, thus dying.


KC


If you look at the advice of university agricultural services and turf
authorities, I haven't seen any disagreement. In fact, most of them
state that Fall is the best time to fertilize, as there is much less
chance of encouraging disease. If you have any sources that state
otherwise, I'd be happy to see them. And I do it every year on my
lawn and it looks super, nice and green all winter.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -




KC[_2_] 14-08-2007 05:04 PM

Soil test help
 
On Aug 14, 6:28 am, wrote:
On Aug 13, 8:58 pm, KC wrote:





On Aug 13, 7:37 am, wrote:


Lime now and 15-0-15 fertilizer next spring.


KC


Why wait till Spring to fertilize? Fall is an excellent time to apply ferilizer


There are divided opinions on this subject and I gave the one I was
taught. Existing growth benefits but new growth suffers. Rationale is
that nitrogen stimulates new growth late in the season and this growth
does not have time to toughen up before freezes, thus dying.


KC


If you look at the advice of university agricultural services and turf
authorities, I haven't seen any disagreement. In fact, most of them
state that Fall is the best time to fertilize, as there is much less
chance of encouraging disease. If you have any sources that state
otherwise, I'd be happy to see them. And I do it every year on my
lawn and it looks super, nice and green all winter.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I stand corrected. The grasses named by the OP will benefit from fall
fertilizing. My advice pertained to warm season grasses which general
recommendations state not to fertilize later than August. Which is
where the difference of opinion comes in.

Kc


Jim 14-08-2007 07:36 PM

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KC wrote:

[....]

I stand corrected. The grasses named by the OP will benefit from fall
fertilizing. My advice pertained to warm season grasses which general
recommendations state not to fertilize later than August. Which is
where the difference of opinion comes in.

Kc


http://www.super-sod.com/info-guide-bermuda.html

Fall application 30lbs (lbs/3000 SF) 5-10-15 + Iron Pre-E
fall, that's usually after august, right?
Bermuda grass, that's usually referred to as a warm season
grass, right?

do your general recommendations originate from a lowes-guy
or a sears-guy?

[email protected] 14-08-2007 08:15 PM

Soil test help
 
On Aug 14, 7:13 am, Jim wrote:
trader wrote:
KC wrote:
trad wrote:


Lime now and 15-0-15 fertilizer next spring.


KC


Why wait till Spring to fertilize? Fall is an excellent time to apply ferilizer


There are divided opinions on this subject and I gave the one I was
taught. Existing growth benefits but new growth suffers. Rationale is
that nitrogen stimulates new growth late in the season and this growth
does not have time to toughen up before freezes, thus dying.


KC


If you look at the advice of university agricultural services and turf
authorities, I haven't seen any disagreement. In fact, most of them
state that Fall is the best time to fertilize, as there is much less
chance of encouraging disease. If you have any sources that state
otherwise, I'd be happy to see them. And I do it every year on my
lawn and it looks super, nice and green all winter.


your advice is dependent upon the type of turf one is managing.

http://www.super-sod.com/info-guide-...centipede.html

both are warm season active cool season dormant grasses
yet they have different feeding requirements.

leaving the uninformed uninformed allows for increased
seed and fertilizer sales resulting in an industry net
gain. is it the right thing to do?- Hide quoted text -



If you read the original post, the question was:

"Here are the results of my lawn soil test. Can you recommend soil
amendments or treatments? Have rye, fescue and bluegrass in central
CT. "

It's clear the question and answer I gave were for cool season grasses
in CT, not warm season grasses. Fall fertilization is clearly
appropriate. So save the nonsense about trying to increase fertlizer
sales.





Steveo 14-08-2007 09:28 PM

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wrote:
On Aug 14, 7:13 am, Jim wrote:
trader wrote:
KC wrote:
trad wrote:


Lime now and 15-0-15 fertilizer next spring.


KC


Why wait till Spring to fertilize? Fall is an excellent time to
apply ferilizer


There are divided opinions on this subject and I gave the one I was
taught. Existing growth benefits but new growth suffers. Rationale
is that nitrogen stimulates new growth late in the season and this
growth does not have time to toughen up before freezes, thus dying.


KC


If you look at the advice of university agricultural services and
turf authorities, I haven't seen any disagreement. In fact, most of
them state that Fall is the best time to fertilize, as there is much
less chance of encouraging disease. If you have any sources that
state otherwise, I'd be happy to see them. And I do it every year on
my lawn and it looks super, nice and green all winter.


your advice is dependent upon the type of turf one is managing.

http://www.super-sod.com/info-guide-...w.super-sod.co
m/info-guide-centipede.html

both are warm season active cool season dormant grasses
yet they have different feeding requirements.

leaving the uninformed uninformed allows for increased
seed and fertilizer sales resulting in an industry net
gain. is it the right thing to do?- Hide quoted text -


If you read the original post, the question was:

"Here are the results of my lawn soil test. Can you recommend soil
amendments or treatments? Have rye, fescue and bluegrass in central
CT. "

It's clear the question and answer I gave were for cool season grasses
in CT, not warm season grasses. Fall fertilization is clearly
appropriate. So save the nonsense about trying to increase fertlizer
sales.

I understood you completely, Trader, and you were spot on with your advice.

Bermuda isn't really turf-grass anyway is it? it looks like grass weeds to
me.

Jim 15-08-2007 04:06 AM

Soil test help
 
trader wrote:

Jim wrote:
trader wrote:
KC wrote:
trader wrote:


Lime now and 15-0-15 fertilizer next spring.


KC


Why wait till Spring to fertilize? Fall is an excellent time to apply ferilizer


There are divided opinions on this subject and I gave the one I was
taught. Existing growth benefits but new growth suffers. Rationale is
that nitrogen stimulates new growth late in the season and this growth
does not have time to toughen up before freezes, thus dying.


If you look at the advice of university agricultural services and turf
authorities, I haven't seen any disagreement. In fact, most of them
state that Fall is the best time to fertilize, as there is much less
chance of encouraging disease. If you have any sources that state
otherwise, I'd be happy to see them. And I do it every year on my
lawn and it looks super, nice and green all winter.


your advice is dependent upon the type of turf one is managing.


http://www.super-sod.com/info-guide-bermuda.html
http://www.super-sod.com/info-guide-centipede.html

both are warm season active cool season dormant grasses
yet they have different feeding requirements.

leaving the uninformed uninformed allows for increased
seed and fertilizer sales resulting in an industry net
gain. is it the right thing to do?


If you read the original post, the question was:


I did.


"Here are the results of my lawn soil test. Can you recommend soil
amendments or treatments? Have rye, fescue and bluegrass in central
CT. "

It's clear the question and answer I gave were for cool season grasses
in CT, not warm season grasses. Fall fertilization is clearly
appropriate. So save the nonsense about trying to increase fertlizer
sales.


LOL -- KC recommends waiting till spring and then you show
up selling fertilizer stating "Why wait till Spring to fertilize"
thank you for an excellent LOL


http://www.super-sod.com/info-guide-fescue.html

I never said your advice was inappropriate, did I?

I was attempting to make the point of how different
turf types have different requirements.

I am now reminded of how a mind is much the same as a
parachute in that neither work well when they are not
open.

[email protected] 15-08-2007 01:43 PM

Soil test help
 
On Aug 14, 10:06 pm, Jim wrote:
trader wrote:
Jim wrote:
trader wrote:
KC wrote:
trader wrote:


Lime now and 15-0-15 fertilizer next spring.


KC


Why wait till Spring to fertilize? Fall is an excellent time to apply ferilizer


There are divided opinions on this subject and I gave the one I was
taught. Existing growth benefits but new growth suffers. Rationale is
that nitrogen stimulates new growth late in the season and this growth
does not have time to toughen up before freezes, thus dying.


If you look at the advice of university agricultural services and turf
authorities, I haven't seen any disagreement. In fact, most of them
state that Fall is the best time to fertilize, as there is much less
chance of encouraging disease. If you have any sources that state
otherwise, I'd be happy to see them. And I do it every year on my
lawn and it looks super, nice and green all winter.


your advice is dependent upon the type of turf one is managing.


http://www.super-sod.com/info-guide-...centipede.html

both are warm season active cool season dormant grasses
yet they have different feeding requirements.


leaving the uninformed uninformed allows for increased
seed and fertilizer sales resulting in an industry net
gain. is it the right thing to do?


If you read the original post, the question was:


I did.



"Here are the results of my lawn soil test. Can you recommend soil
amendments or treatments? Have rye, fescue and bluegrass in central
CT. "


It's clear the question and answer I gave were for cool season grasses
in CT, not warm season grasses. Fall fertilization is clearly
appropriate. So save the nonsense about trying to increase fertlizer
sales.


LOL -- KC recommends waiting till spring and then you show
up selling fertilizer stating "Why wait till Spring to fertilize"
thank you for an excellent LOL

http://www.super-sod.com/info-guide-fescue.html

I never said your advice was inappropriate, did I?

I was attempting to make the point of how different
turf types have different requirements.

I am now reminded of how a mind is much the same as a
parachute in that neither work well when they are not
open.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -



Perhaps you should take a class in reading comprehension and how to
express yourself. Even this latest post makes no sense. You made a
snide comment about my advice, accusing me of trying to sell
fertilizer, which implies that is the basis for my answer that Fall is
an excellent time for the OP to fertilize, instead of waiting for
Spring. Which of course is quite silly, because you have no evidence
or reason to think I'm in any way connected to or benefitting from
people buying more fertilizer. And also, if you can read, in the post
you attacked, I spelled out the fertilizer requirements for his turf
for the entire season, and only suggested how he divide it up. So, he
could use the same amount of fertilizer regardless of when he puts it
down. And now you again say I showed up "selling feritilizer." Yet
at the same time you say the advice I gave was "not inappropriate."

So, what the hell exactly are you saying? When you figure it out and
can put it into writing, let us know.


[email protected] 15-08-2007 03:11 PM

Soil test help
 
On Aug 14, 3:28 pm, Steveo wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 14, 7:13 am, Jim wrote:
trader wrote:
KC wrote:
trad wrote:


Lime now and 15-0-15 fertilizer next spring.


KC


Why wait till Spring to fertilize? Fall is an excellent time to
apply ferilizer


There are divided opinions on this subject and I gave the one I was
taught. Existing growth benefits but new growth suffers. Rationale
is that nitrogen stimulates new growth late in the season and this
growth does not have time to toughen up before freezes, thus dying.


KC


If you look at the advice of university agricultural services and
turf authorities, I haven't seen any disagreement. In fact, most of
them state that Fall is the best time to fertilize, as there is much
less chance of encouraging disease. If you have any sources that
state otherwise, I'd be happy to see them. And I do it every year on
my lawn and it looks super, nice and green all winter.


your advice is dependent upon the type of turf one is managing.


http://www.super-sod.com/info-guide-...w.super-sod.co
m/info-guide-centipede.html


both are warm season active cool season dormant grasses
yet they have different feeding requirements.


leaving the uninformed uninformed allows for increased
seed and fertilizer sales resulting in an industry net
gain. is it the right thing to do?- Hide quoted text -


If you read the original post, the question was:


"Here are the results of my lawn soil test. Can you recommend soil
amendments or treatments? Have rye, fescue and bluegrass in central
CT. "


It's clear the question and answer I gave were for cool season grasses
in CT, not warm season grasses. Fall fertilization is clearly
appropriate. So save the nonsense about trying to increase fertlizer
sales.


I understood you completely, Trader, and you were spot on with your advice.

Bermuda isn't really turf-grass anyway is it? it looks like grass weeds to
me.- Hide quoted text -


Thanks Steveo. I was beginning to think I was the only one here that
made any sense!



KC[_2_] 15-08-2007 08:46 PM

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On Aug 14, 1:36 pm, Jim wrote:


http://www.super-sod.com/info-guide-bermuda.html

Fall application 30lbs (lbs/3000 SF) 5-10-15 + Iron Pre-E
fall, that's usually after august, right?
Bermuda grass, that's usually referred to as a warm season
grass, right?

do your general recommendations originate from a lowes-guy
or a sears-guy?


I admitted I was wrong about fall fertilizing the grasses named by the
OP. (I happen to be capable of admitting my mistakes). I am not wrong
about fall fertilizing warm season grasses, based upon ag universities
recommendations.

http://www.aces.edu/pubs/docs/A/ANR-0239/
http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/lawns/index.html

You are trying to make a case based on "super-sod" bermuda which is a
hybrid and does not meet the same maintenance requirements of common
bermuda, zoysia, centipede. & St. Augustine. Know what you're talking
about before you argue.


KC


Foobar 17-08-2007 05:56 PM

Soil test help
 
On Aug 14, 4:28 pm, Steveo wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 14, 7:13 am, Jim wrote:
trader wrote:
KC wrote:
trad wrote:


Lime now and 15-0-15 fertilizer next spring.


KC


Why wait till Spring to fertilize? Fall is an excellent time to
apply ferilizer


There are divided opinions on this subject and I gave the one I was
taught. Existing growth benefits but new growth suffers. Rationale
is that nitrogen stimulates new growth late in the season and this
growth does not have time to toughen up before freezes, thus dying.


KC


If you look at the advice of university agricultural services and
turf authorities, I haven't seen any disagreement. In fact, most of
them state that Fall is the best time to fertilize, as there is much
less chance of encouraging disease. If you have any sources that
state otherwise, I'd be happy to see them. And I do it every year on
mylawnand it looks super, nice and green all winter.


your advice is dependent upon the type of turf one is managing.


http://www.super-sod.com/info-guide-...w.super-sod.co
m/info-guide-centipede.html


both are warm season active cool season dormant grasses
yet they have different feeding requirements.


leaving the uninformed uninformed allows for increased
seed and fertilizer sales resulting in an industry net
gain. is it the right thing to do?- Hide quoted text -


If you read the original post, the question was:


"Here are the results of mylawnsoil test. Can you recommend soil
amendments or treatments? Have rye,fescueand bluegrass in central
CT. "


It's clear the question and answer I gave were for cool season grasses
in CT, not warm season grasses. Fall fertilization is clearly
appropriate. So save the nonsense about trying to increase fertlizer
sales.


I understood you completely, Trader, and you were spot on with your advice.

Bermuda isn't really turf-grass anyway is it? it looks like grass weeds to
me.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Most golf course use it. Footbal fields? Baseball, Soccer? So yeah,
it's a turf grass.


Steveo 17-08-2007 06:05 PM

Soil test help
 
Foobar wrote:
On Aug 14, 4:28 pm, Steveo wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 14, 7:13 am, Jim wrote:
trader wrote:
KC wrote:
trad wrote:


Lime now and 15-0-15 fertilizer next spring.


KC


Why wait till Spring to fertilize? Fall is an excellent time
to apply ferilizer


There are divided opinions on this subject and I gave the one I
was taught. Existing growth benefits but new growth suffers.
Rationale is that nitrogen stimulates new growth late in the
season and this growth does not have time to toughen up before
freezes, thus dying.


KC


If you look at the advice of university agricultural services and
turf authorities, I haven't seen any disagreement. In fact,
most of them state that Fall is the best time to fertilize, as
there is much less chance of encouraging disease. If you have
any sources that state otherwise, I'd be happy to see them. And
I do it every year on mylawnand it looks super, nice and green
all winter.


your advice is dependent upon the type of turf one is managing.


http://www.super-sod.com/info-guide-.../www.super-sod
.co
m/info-guide-centipede.html


both are warm season active cool season dormant grasses
yet they have different feeding requirements.


leaving the uninformed uninformed allows for increased
seed and fertilizer sales resulting in an industry net
gain. is it the right thing to do?- Hide quoted text -


If you read the original post, the question was:


"Here are the results of mylawnsoil test. Can you recommend soil
amendments or treatments? Have rye,fescueand bluegrass in central
CT. "


It's clear the question and answer I gave were for cool season
grasses in CT, not warm season grasses. Fall fertilization is
clearly appropriate. So save the nonsense about trying to increase
fertlizer sales.


I understood you completely, Trader, and you were spot on with your
advice.

Bermuda isn't really turf-grass anyway is it? it looks like grass weeds
to me.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Most golf course use it. Footbal fields? Baseball, Soccer? So yeah,
it's a turf grass.

Not aroumd here they don't.

KC[_2_] 17-08-2007 07:19 PM

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On Aug 17, 12:05 pm, Steveo wrote:


Most golf course use it. Footbal fields? Baseball, Soccer? So yeah,
it's a turf grass.


Not aroumd here they don't.


That's a trap many in this forum, including me, fall into. We get so
used to giving advice about our own locale we forget that other parts
of the country/world have different plants & different problems. BTW,
what type grasses do ya'll have on your golf courses?

KC



Bob F 17-08-2007 08:36 PM

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"KC" wrote in message
ups.com...

My advice pertained to warm season grasses which general
recommendations state not to fertilize later than August.


What's a "warm season"?

Bob (in Seattle)



Bob F 17-08-2007 08:41 PM

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"KC" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Aug 17, 12:05 pm, Steveo wrote:


Most golf course use it. Footbal fields? Baseball, Soccer? So yeah,
it's a turf grass.


Not aroumd here they don't.


That's a trap many in this forum, including me, fall into. We get so
used to giving advice about our own locale we forget that other parts
of the country/world have different plants & different problems. BTW,
what type grasses do ya'll have on your golf courses?


And say "around here" without sayig where "here" is?

Bob



Foobar 17-08-2007 11:39 PM

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On Aug 17, 3:41 pm, "Bob F" wrote:
"KC" wrote in message

oups.com...

On Aug 17, 12:05 pm, Steveo wrote:


Most golf course use it. Footbal fields? Baseball, Soccer? So yeah,
it's a turf grass.


Not aroumd here they don't.


That's a trap many in this forum, including me, fall into. We get so
used to giving advice about our own locale we forget that other parts
of the country/world have different plants & different problems. BTW,
what type grasses do ya'll have on your golf courses?


And say "around here" without sayig where "here" is?

Bob


I maintain 3 types of grass. Tall Fescue in the front yard (3000 sf),
Hybrid Bermuda in the back yard (5000 sf) and my neighbors weeds (2000
sf) on either side.


Eggs Zachtly 18-08-2007 04:04 AM

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Steveo said:

Foobar wrote:
On Aug 14, 4:28 pm, Steveo wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 14, 7:13 am, Jim wrote:
trader wrote:
KC wrote:
trad wrote:

Lime now and 15-0-15 fertilizer next spring.

KC

Why wait till Spring to fertilize? Fall is an excellent time
to apply ferilizer

There are divided opinions on this subject and I gave the one I
was taught. Existing growth benefits but new growth suffers.
Rationale is that nitrogen stimulates new growth late in the
season and this growth does not have time to toughen up before
freezes, thus dying.

KC

If you look at the advice of university agricultural services and
turf authorities, I haven't seen any disagreement. In fact,
most of them state that Fall is the best time to fertilize, as
there is much less chance of encouraging disease. If you have
any sources that state otherwise, I'd be happy to see them. And
I do it every year on mylawnand it looks super, nice and green
all winter.

your advice is dependent upon the type of turf one is managing.

http://www.super-sod.com/info-guide-.../www.super-sod
.co
m/info-guide-centipede.html

both are warm season active cool season dormant grasses
yet they have different feeding requirements.

leaving the uninformed uninformed allows for increased
seed and fertilizer sales resulting in an industry net
gain. is it the right thing to do?- Hide quoted text -

If you read the original post, the question was:

"Here are the results of mylawnsoil test. Can you recommend soil
amendments or treatments? Have rye,fescueand bluegrass in central
CT. "

It's clear the question and answer I gave were for cool season
grasses in CT, not warm season grasses. Fall fertilization is
clearly appropriate. So save the nonsense about trying to increase
fertlizer sales.

I understood you completely, Trader, and you were spot on with your
advice.

Bermuda isn't really turf-grass anyway is it? it looks like grass weeds
to me.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Most golf course use it. Footbal fields? Baseball, Soccer? So yeah,
it's a turf grass.

Not aroumd here they don't.


LMAO!

Where /do/ they come from? Oh.... I see... G2...

*shakes head*

--

Eggs

-A conscience is what hurts when all of your other parts feel so good.

Bob 19-08-2007 01:59 AM

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On Aug 17, 10:04 pm, Eggs Zachtly wrote:


Not aroumd here they don't.


LMAO!

Where /do/ they come from? Oh.... I see... G2...

*shakes head*

More of that "I'm superior to you because I use usenet" crap. Why is
it that so many usenet people have a really shitty attitude??

Bob


Eggs Zachtly 19-08-2007 11:10 AM

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Bob said:

On Aug 17, 10:04 pm, Eggs Zachtly wrote:


Not aroumd here they don't.


LMAO!

Where /do/ they come from? Oh.... I see... G2...

*shakes head*

More of that "I'm superior to you because I use usenet" crap.


No, more of that "G2 really borks posts, and an unbelievable amount of spam
originates there, which Google admittedly won't do anything about.".

Why is it that so many usenet people have a really shitty attitude??


Must be something to it, if "so many" feel that way, huh? ;)

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What is a "free" gift? Aren't all gifts free?

Willshak 19-08-2007 02:07 PM

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on 8/19/2007 6:10 AM Eggs Zachtly said the following:
Bob said:


On Aug 17, 10:04 pm, Eggs Zachtly wrote:


Not aroumd here they don't.

LMAO!

Where /do/ they come from? Oh.... I see... G2...

*shakes head*


More of that "I'm superior to you because I use usenet" crap.


No, more of that "G2 really borks posts, and an unbelievable amount of spam
originates there, which Google admittedly won't do anything about.".


Why is it that so many usenet people have a really shitty attitude??



Must be something to it, if "so many" feel that way, huh? ;)



A couple of weeks ago, I received an e-mail response to a threaded
message I posted in alt.home repair.
I was not the OP of the original message, nor was I offering anything to
the OP's question. The thread had wandered off the original question,
but was still somewhat OT, and I was just adding a similar story to
another responder's story.
I had posted the message 4 years ago.

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In Hamptonburgh, NY
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

Willshak 19-08-2007 02:15 PM

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on 8/19/2007 6:10 AM Eggs Zachtly said the following:
Bob said:


On Aug 17, 10:04 pm, Eggs Zachtly wrote:


Not aroumd here they don't.

LMAO!

Where /do/ they come from? Oh.... I see... G2...

*shakes head*


More of that "I'm superior to you because I use usenet" crap.


No, more of that "G2 really borks posts, and an unbelievable amount of spam
originates there, which Google admittedly won't do anything about.".


Why is it that so many usenet people have a really shitty attitude??



Must be something to it, if "so many" feel that way, huh? ;)


A couple of weeks ago, I received an e-mail response from a G2 user to a
threaded message I posted in alt.home repair.
I was not the OP of the original message, nor was I offering anything to
the OP's question. The thread had wandered off the original question,
but was still somewhat On Topic, and I was just adding a similar story
to another responder's story.
I had posted the message 4 years ago.

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Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

Steveo 19-08-2007 04:13 PM

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"Bob F" wrote:
"KC" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Aug 17, 12:05 pm, Steveo wrote:


Most golf course use it. Footbal fields? Baseball, Soccer? So
yeah, it's a turf grass.

Not aroumd here they don't.


That's a trap many in this forum, including me, fall into. We get so
used to giving advice about our own locale we forget that other parts
of the country/world have different plants & different problems. BTW,
what type grasses do ya'll have on your golf courses?


And say "around here" without sayig where "here" is?

Bob

North Ohio.

Steveo 19-08-2007 04:14 PM

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KC wrote:
On Aug 17, 12:05 pm, Steveo wrote:


Most golf course use it. Footbal fields? Baseball, Soccer? So
yeah, it's a turf grass.


Not aroumd here they don't.


That's a trap many in this forum, including me, fall into. We get so
used to giving advice about our own locale we forget that other parts
of the country/world have different plants & different problems. BTW,
what type grasses do ya'll have on your golf courses?

KC

Rye, blue, fescue, and bent.

Eggs Zachtly 19-08-2007 05:43 PM

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Steveo said:

KC wrote:
On Aug 17, 12:05 pm, Steveo wrote:


Most golf course use it. Footbal fields? Baseball, Soccer? So
yeah, it's a turf grass.

Not aroumd here they don't.


That's a trap many in this forum, including me, fall into. We get so
used to giving advice about our own locale we forget that other parts
of the country/world have different plants & different problems. BTW,
what type grasses do ya'll have on your golf courses?

KC

Rye, blue, fescue, and bent.


Here (StL), it's:

Tall Fescue (rough)
Zoisia (fairways, tee boxes, & close rough)
Bent (greens)

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Eggs Zachtly 21-08-2007 04:10 AM

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willshak said:

on 8/19/2007 6:10 AM Eggs Zachtly said the following:
Bob said:


On Aug 17, 10:04 pm, Eggs Zachtly wrote:


Not aroumd here they don't.

LMAO!

Where /do/ they come from? Oh.... I see... G2...

*shakes head*


More of that "I'm superior to you because I use usenet" crap.


No, more of that "G2 really borks posts, and an unbelievable amount of spam
originates there, which Google admittedly won't do anything about.".


Why is it that so many usenet people have a really shitty attitude??



Must be something to it, if "so many" feel that way, huh? ;)



A couple of weeks ago, I received an e-mail response to a threaded
message I posted in alt.home repair.
I was not the OP of the original message, nor was I offering anything to
the OP's question. The thread had wandered off the original question,
but was still somewhat OT, and I was just adding a similar story to
another responder's story.
I had posted the message 4 years ago.


As part of it's USENET "simulation", after 60 days, Google removes the
ability to reply to a post, which is fine, IMO. Unfortunately, they don't
remove the ability to reply by email, or forward that same post. It's a
completely borked interface, and the "powers that be" apparently wish to
keep it that way. No matter, I see very few posts that originate there, and
it makes for a *MUCH* better USENET experience. =)

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Is it my imagination, or do buffalo wings taste like chicken?

Jim 21-08-2007 05:06 AM

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Eggs Zachtly wrote:

[....]

Google

[....]
I see very few posts that originate there, and
it makes for a *MUCH* better USENET experience. =)


having given some thought to the several different times
I've seen you mention the quality post originating from
people using google as their access to usenet I am now
most incline to agree with you. how is it the vast
majority of them seem to be in possession of a great
need to argue any point for the sole need of demanding
their view be considered as the only correct an applicable
one.

Steveo 22-08-2007 11:58 PM

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wrote:
Steveo said:

Rye, blue, fescue, and bent.


Here (StL), it's:

Tall Fescue (rough)
Zoisia (fairways, tee boxes, & close rough)
Bent (greens)

Sounds very nice! :)

Man this has been a very strange growing season thus far up here.

We went from almost record temps and drought this summer, to eight inches
of rain in August so far, from one extreme to the next. Some are flooded in
the Mansfield area. :(

Chinch bug and dollar spot out the ying-yang now. Too soon to say what the
white grub population will be like. I'm hoping all this rain lately will
slow the chinch down a bit.

Eggs Zachtly 23-08-2007 01:18 AM

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Steveo said:

wrote:
Steveo said:

Rye, blue, fescue, and bent.


Here (StL), it's:

Tall Fescue (rough)
Zoisia (fairways, tee boxes, & close rough)
Bent (greens)

Sounds very nice! :)


It is pretty amazing. Although, temps have been trying to wreak havoc with
everything.


Man this has been a very strange growing season thus far up here.

We went from almost record temps and drought this summer, to eight inches
of rain in August so far, from one extreme to the next. Some are flooded in
the Mansfield area. :(


We've gone from one of the strangest freezes I can remember (around Easter)
to 105F (actual) last week. 100 tomorrow, they say. I'm bettin' on warmer.
=( Rain? Let's see. We got 1/2" last weekend. That was the first
measurable rain in about a month, with upper 90's for temps. Oh, ya, we got
..08" the other night. My bad. g


Chinch bug and dollar spot out the ying-yang now. Too soon to say what the
white grub population will be like. I'm hoping all this rain lately will
slow the chinch down a bit.


Bugs ain't been much of a problem, after some early jap beetles. It's so
****in' hot, *nothing* is stirring, heh.

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What's another word for thesaurus?

Steveo 23-08-2007 01:25 AM

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wrote:
Steveo said:

wrote:
Steveo said:

Rye, blue, fescue, and bent.

Here (StL), it's:

Tall Fescue (rough)
Zoisia (fairways, tee boxes, & close rough)
Bent (greens)

Sounds very nice! :)


It is pretty amazing. Although, temps have been trying to wreak havoc
with everything.


Man this has been a very strange growing season thus far up here.

We went from almost record temps and drought this summer, to eight
inches of rain in August so far, from one extreme to the next. Some are
flooded in the Mansfield area. :(


We've gone from one of the strangest freezes I can remember (around
Easter) to 105F (actual) last week. 100 tomorrow, they say. I'm bettin'
on warmer. =( Rain? Let's see. We got 1/2" last weekend. That was the
first measurable rain in about a month, with upper 90's for temps. Oh,
ya, we got .08" the other night. My bad. g

Bummer, that's a tough environment to maintain turf grass or most anything
else for that matter. Do you have crops around you?

Chinch bug and dollar spot out the ying-yang now. Too soon to say what
the white grub population will be like. I'm hoping all this rain lately
will slow the chinch down a bit.


Bugs ain't been much of a problem, after some early jap beetles. It's so
****in' hot, *nothing* is stirring, heh.

No doubt. I'm surprised the heat doesn't trigger at least some level of a
surface insect problem. Perhaps you're on an island at that course. (not
much insect encroachment)?

That's where our lawns get them from for the most part here, especially in
developments where the homes are really squeezed in tight. The chinch will
literally run down the street to the next lawn and grow to 100 females/sg
ft fairly quick. Gang fun.

At any rate I hope you people get some much deserved rain soon, and NOT all
at once. Maybe fall will be better for both of us.

Eggs Zachtly 23-08-2007 10:50 AM

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Steveo said:

wrote:
Steveo said:

wrote:
Steveo said:

Rye, blue, fescue, and bent.

Here (StL), it's:

Tall Fescue (rough)
Zoisia (fairways, tee boxes, & close rough)
Bent (greens)

Sounds very nice! :)


It is pretty amazing. Although, temps have been trying to wreak havoc
with everything.


Man this has been a very strange growing season thus far up here.

We went from almost record temps and drought this summer, to eight
inches of rain in August so far, from one extreme to the next. Some are
flooded in the Mansfield area. :(


We've gone from one of the strangest freezes I can remember (around
Easter) to 105F (actual) last week. 100 tomorrow, they say. I'm bettin'
on warmer. =( Rain? Let's see. We got 1/2" last weekend. That was the
first measurable rain in about a month, with upper 90's for temps. Oh,
ya, we got .08" the other night. My bad. g

Bummer, that's a tough environment to maintain turf grass or most anything
else for that matter. Do you have crops around you?


Well, corn is obviously done. Beans and wheat aren't looking too good.


Chinch bug and dollar spot out the ying-yang now. Too soon to say what
the white grub population will be like. I'm hoping all this rain lately
will slow the chinch down a bit.


Bugs ain't been much of a problem, after some early jap beetles. It's so
****in' hot, *nothing* is stirring, heh.

No doubt. I'm surprised the heat doesn't trigger at least some level of a
surface insect problem. Perhaps you're on an island at that course. (not
much insect encroachment)?


Nah, just a bazillion chemicals, LOL.


That's where our lawns get them from for the most part here, especially in
developments where the homes are really squeezed in tight. The chinch will
literally run down the street to the next lawn and grow to 100 females/sg
ft fairly quick. Gang fun.

At any rate I hope you people get some much deserved rain soon, and NOT all
at once. Maybe fall will be better for both of us.


Ya, thanks man. And, I hope so! I'm ready for some nice, cool, fall
plantings. =D

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Eggs

- The Lady of the Lake-- her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held
aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water, signifying by divine
providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. THAT is why I am your
king!


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