killing clover in grass
Is there anything i can use to kill clover in my lawn?i used some grass seed i had from work which was agricultor stuff,and it contained a lot of clover bigest mistake ive made!!
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killing clover in grass
On Jun 24, 2:45*pm, chriz1 wrote:
Is there anything i can use to kill clover in my lawn?i used some grass seed i had from work which was agricultor stuff,and it contained a lot of clover bigest mistake ive made!! Also if left will it spread over the lawn? Thanks -- chriz1 There are several selective herbicides that are effective on clover. Check at your lawn and garden center or do a google search. The general purpose broadleaf weed killer for lawns is not effective. Unless there are large spots of it, clover is generally not a problem. |
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killing clover in grass
On Jun 24, 1:45*pm, chriz1 wrote:
Is there anything i can use to kill clover in my lawn?i used some grass seed i had from work which was agricultor stuff,and it contained a lot of clover bigest mistake ive made!! Also if left will it spread over the lawn? Thanks -- chriz1 There are several varieties of clover. Some, like crimson, is a spring only variety, and some of of the whites are there for most of the season. How it affects your lawn depends on what type you have. And yes, it will spread over time. As trader said, get a herbicide that will control clover without harming your type of grass. Red |
killing clover in grass
"chriz1" wrote in message ... ;853026 Wrote: On Jun 24, 2:45*pm, chriz1 wrote:- Is there anything i can use to kill clover in my lawn?i used some grass seed i had from work which was agricultor stuff,and it contained a lot of clover bigest mistake ive made!! Also if left will it spread over the lawn? Thanks -- chriz1- There are several selective herbicides that are effective on clover. Check at your lawn and garden center or do a google search. The general purpose broadleaf weed killer for lawns is not effective. Unless there are large spots of it, clover is generally not a problem. its just spoiling the look of the lawn is there any ingridient i should look for on the bottle? -- chriz1 Chriz - it depends on what turfgrass you have. The UK has pretty specific labelling requirements, so you'd be best off to go to a good nursery or turf dealer and get their recommendation - then read the label and make sure the product label does not say "Not for use on [insert your grass type]." Chemicals which may be effective against clover or other lawn weeds are harmful to certain varieties of turf. Just don't fall victim to the weed-and-feed hype you may run into in the big box and discount stores. In reality, the chemicals are probably unnecessary. A good turfgrass can defeat clover if the general conditions are right. Unless the clover is really predominant, if you simply take proper care of the lawn you can expect the turf to graduallly crowd out the weeds. A little hand-pulling of the most egregious weeds will help a lot. If you avoid demanding instant gratification the lawn will improve with each passing week and one day you'll wake up and realize you've achieved a quality lawn without using a lot of chemicals and lime. You'll have saved a lot of money, time, and not pushed a lot of chemicals, lime and nitrogen through the lawn and into the water table. |
killing clover in grass
on 6/24/2009 2:45 PM (ET) chriz1 wrote the following:
Is there anything i can use to kill clover in my lawn?i used some grass seed i had from work which was agricultor stuff,and it contained a lot of clover bigest mistake ive made!! Also if left will it spread over the lawn? Thanks Ortho Weed B Gon and others work. If you buy the concentrate, add some liquid dish detergent to the mixture. Clover, and other waxy weeds, will bead up and shed the liquid immediately, unless you add a surfactant (one of which is detergent), which will allow the liquid to stick to the leaves. It is also beneficial to mow the lawn beforehand so that the weed killer can get into the plant faster through the cut weed veins and stems. -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY In the original Orange County. Est. 1683 To email, remove the double zeroes after @ |
killing clover in grass
chriz1 wrote:
its just spoiling the look of the lawn is there any ingridient i should look for on the bottle? Yes! 245-t ester of silvex.. err that was banned via agent orange. Clover has a wax on its foliage and so most of the control product runs off on application. You need a sticker additive that makes the spray cling such as a spreader sticker product, or some say a small amount of dish detergent helps with that. Weed -b- gone concentrate kicks common clovers ass! 1.5 ounces per gallon of water IIRC. |
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killing clover in grass
On Jun 26, 3:27*pm, chriz1 wrote:
'Steve[_23_ Wrote: ;853229']chriz1 wrote:-- its just spoiling the look of the lawn is there any ingridient i should- look for on the bottle? - Yes! 245-t ester of silvex.. err that was banned via agent orange. Clover has a wax on its foliage and so most of the control product runs off on application. You need a sticker additive that makes the spray cling such as a spreader sticker product, or some say a small amount of dish detergent helps with that. Weed -b- gone concentrate kicks common clovers ass! 1.5 ounces per gallon of water IIRC. couldnt find that stuff anywhere,so bought some Verdon extra that was in BQ,see how it goes.how much detergant do you think i need? not much - about 6ml per liter (1oz/gal) Red |
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killing clover in grass
On Jun 27, 8:14*am, chriz1 wrote:
'Red[_2_ Wrote: ;853310']On Jun 26, 3:27*pm, chriz1 wrote:- 'Steve[_23_ Wrote: - ;853229']chriz1 wrote:-- its just spoiling the look of the lawn is there any ingridient i should- look for on the bottle? - Yes! 245-t ester of silvex.. err that was banned via agent orange.- - Clover has a wax on its foliage and so most of the control product runs off on application. You need a sticker additive that makes the spray cling such as a spreader sticker product, or some say a small amount of dish detergent helps with that.- - Weed -b- gone concentrate kicks common clovers ass! 1.5 ounces per gallon of water IIRC.- couldnt find that stuff anywhere,so bought some Verdon extra that was in BQ,see how it goes.how much detergant do you think i need? - not much - about 6ml per liter *(1oz/gal) Red clothes powder ok? I never tried it but I would think not. Liquid dish soap is the most commonly used product. Red |
killing clover in grass
"chriz1" wrote in message ... 'Steve[_23_ Wrote: ;853229']chriz1 wrote:-- its just spoiling the look of the lawn is there any ingridient i should- look for on the bottle? - Yes! 245-t ester of silvex.. err that was banned via agent orange. Clover has a wax on its foliage and so most of the control product runs off on application. You need a sticker additive that makes the spray cling such as a spreader sticker product, or some say a small amount of dish detergent helps with that. Weed -b- gone concentrate kicks common clovers ass! 1.5 ounces per gallon of water IIRC. couldnt find that stuff anywhere,so bought some Verdon extra [--] -- chriz1 Weed-b-gone contains 2-4-D, a known carcinogen, and MCPP, a suspected carcinogen Verdone Extra contains fluroxypyr, clopyralid and MCPA. It will damage or kill some varieties of turf grasses, but perhaps not those in your area. The label will tell you precisely which grasses are affected and will also tell you how to apply it. Don't vary from the label instructions. FYI - fluroxypyr is not licensed for homeowner use in the U.S., it is licensed only for commercial applications, and only one application per year is permitted. Clopyralid has been banned from lawns and ornamental sites in portions of the U.S. MCPP is a potassium salt that is a possible carcinogen. You're dealing with some potent chemicals here, particularly if you have pets that walk in the grass or if you go outside barefoot. Take extreme care in handling and consider wearing protection against an accidental inhalation or contact with the product. You could take the high road, and try instead to encourage the growth of your turfgrass, which can crowd out the clover without adding these pesticides to the atmosphere and water table. |
killing clover in grass
"JimR" wrote in message m... Weed-b-gone contains 2-4-D, a known carcinogen, and MCPP, a suspected carcinogen There is no consensus that 2-4-D is a carcinogen. |
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"Chas Hurst" wrote in message ... "JimR" wrote in message m... Weed-b-gone contains 2-4-D, a known carcinogen, and MCPP, a suspected carcinogen There is no consensus that 2-4-D is a carcinogen. Wikipedia's summary: "the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) has classified 2,4-D among the phenoxy acid herbicides MCPA and 2,4,5-T as a class 2B carcinogen - possibly carcinogenic to humans. [6] A 1995 panel of 13 scientists reviewing studies on the carcinogenicity of 2,4-D had divided opinions, but the predominant opinion was that it is possible that 2,4-D causes cancer in humans. A 1990 study of farmers in Nebraska, even when adjusting for exposure to other chemicals, found that 2,4-D exposure substantially increased the risk of Non-Hodgkin's lymphoma (NHL).[8] A 2000 study of 1517 former employees of Dow Chemical Company who had been exposed to the chemical in manufacturing or formulating 2,4-D found no significant increase in risk of mortality due to NHL following 2,4-D exposure, but did find an increase in risk of mortality due to amyotrophic lateral sclerosis." Also: "The amine salt formulations can cause irreversible eye damage (blindness); ester formulations are considered non-irritating to the eyes. One study found that occupational exposure to 2,4-D caused male reproductive problems, including dead and malformed sperm.[4]" Another reliable source is the PAN pesticide directory, in which 2,4-D is listed as one of their "Bad Actors" with "acute toxicity." That's quite a string of negatives, especially when you consider there are non-toxic alternatives available. |
killing clover in grass
"JimR" wrote in message ... "Chas Hurst" wrote in message ... "JimR" wrote in message m... Weed-b-gone contains 2-4-D, a known carcinogen, and MCPP, a suspected carcinogen There is no consensus that 2-4-D is a carcinogen. Wikipedia's summary: "the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) has classified 2,4-D among the phenoxy acid herbicides MCPA and 2,4,5-T as a class 2B carcinogen - possibly carcinogenic to humans. [6] A 1995 panel of 13 scientists reviewing studies on the carcinogenicity of 2,4-D had divided opinions, but the predominant opinion was that it is possible that 2,4-D causes cancer in humans. A 1990 study of farmers in Nebraska, even when adjusting for exposure to other chemicals, found that 2,4-D exposure substantially increased the risk of Non-Hodgkin's lymphoma (NHL).[8] A 2000 study of 1517 former employees of Dow Chemical Company who had been exposed to the chemical in manufacturing or formulating 2,4-D found no significant increase in risk of mortality due to NHL following 2,4-D exposure, but did find an increase in risk of mortality due to amyotrophic lateral sclerosis." Also: "The amine salt formulations can cause irreversible eye damage (blindness); ester formulations are considered non-irritating to the eyes. One study found that occupational exposure to 2,4-D caused male reproductive problems, including dead and malformed sperm.[4]" Another reliable source is the PAN pesticide directory, in which 2,4-D is listed as one of their "Bad Actors" with "acute toxicity." That's quite a string of negatives, especially when you consider there are non-toxic alternatives available. But it's no consensus. Carcinogenic and toxic are synonymous. |
killing clover in grass
"Chas Hurst" wrote in message ... Correction But it's no consensus. Carcinogenic and toxic are NOT synonymous. |
killing clover in grass
"Chas Hurst" wrote in message ... "Chas Hurst" wrote in message ... Correction But it's no consensus. Carcinogenic and toxic are NOT synonymous. In a weird way you're correct. 2, 4-D is both a carcinogen AND toxic. It would be more correct to say there is no consensus that 2, 4D is safe -- The reason I point this out is that this is one of the pesticides that has been widely overused - for example, in this application, where the OP could have solved his clover problem without using any chemicals at all -- and the unnecessary use is resulting in homeowner lawn chemicals and other materials winding up in drinking water supplies. IMHO, usually this is the result of misuse or overuse by people without bad intentions, who think they are doing the right thing and think they are taking normal and prudent precautions. |
There are several careful herbicides that are able on clover. Check at your backyard and garden center most or do a Google search. The general purpose broad leaf edger analgesic for lawns is not effective.
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