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To kill a pine tree...
I know this will not be a popular post and I will probably get flamed all
over the place. I'm sorry if this offends anyone, but I've reached the point that I just don't care anymore. My neighbor's huge pine tree (about 70' tall or more and about 3' at the base - right on the property line) is destroying my roof, my gutters, my yard, my pool, and my cars - possibly even my house. I've spent hours cleaning up the needles, the dead branches, and the cones - not to mention the damage it has done to the cars. I'm even suspecting that the foundation of my house has been cracked by a root from this tree as there is a crack in the concrete floor of one room which radiates directly from that tree. There are 2" roots all over my front yard. The problem is that I like my neighbors and I don't want to sue them. I don't want to threaten them in any way. I don't want to cause any unrest between us. I just want to get rid of the damn tree. They didn't plant the tree. We've both lived in our 30 year old houses for less than two years. So neither of us really knew what was happening when we purchased these places. That's one reason I really don't want to come down on them with legal action. I've asked them politely. I've even offered to have it removed at my own expense - but they refuse. They don't feel the destruction because the prevailing wind blows all the stuff onto my property. Now... with all the roots that are in my yard, it seems I should be able to drill a hole in some of them, apply an herbicide, and legally kill the tree without them knowing I did it. Are there any recommendations? |
To kill a pine tree...
I was told years ago HOT Salty water is almost undetecable.
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To kill a pine tree...
what about pulling the roots out of your yard and property ? that is your right
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To kill a pine tree...
Some of them are 2" thick or more. I might as well take a backhoe to the
whole yard and start over. But the tree would probably survive and just keep growing roots. |
To kill a pine tree...
Trees are a major source of property value. If you were ever caught, you
could be sued for tens of thousands of dollars. Your post, which is tracable to your ISP, will help serve as evidence. In short DON'T DO IT. -Tim |
To kill a pine tree...
So it basically comes down to me sueing them for the loss of property value...
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To kill a pine tree...
I'm not gonna tell some top posting jackass how to kill a tree.
Nice try. -- Zl Arjfernqre vf orggre guna lbhef! (Rot-13) -- Tb# 40 42 12 |
To kill a pine tree...
I don't know this for a fact,but I've heard they don't like salt. I've
also heard peeing around the base will kill them. |
To kill a pine tree...
I've also heard peeing around the base will kill them. Definitely. But it has to be done at high-noon, preferably when traffic is going by. -Tim |
To kill a pine tree...
But the roots are in my yard...
Tim Fischer wrote in message news:jfB6a.252384$vm2.193711@rwcrnsc54... Trees are a major source of property value. If you were ever caught, you could be sued for tens of thousands of dollars. Your post, which is tracable to your ISP, will help serve as evidence. In short DON'T DO IT. -Tim |
To kill a pine tree...
"Bart" wrote in message m... But the roots are in my yard... Yeah, that's how trees work. DUH. -Tim |
To kill a pine tree...
Let's make you the owner of this tree.
So, which would you prefer, Tim? Would you like me to sue you for all the damage your tree is doing to my property, or would you rather let me pay to have it removed? It is going to be gone, eventually. I feel I have a perfect legal right to destroy the roots that are in my yard. Are you one of those tree huggers? Don't you give a damn about your neighbors? This thing is a real problem. Not only to the value of my property, but to personal safety for both homes. I live in a high lightning strike zone. DUH... Bart Tim Fischer wrote in message news:J_e8a.312349$vm2.239724@rwcrnsc54... "Bart" wrote in message m... But the roots are in my yard... Yeah, that's how trees work. DUH. -Tim |
To kill a pine tree...
"Bart" wrote:
Let's make you the owner of this tree. So, which would you prefer, Tim? Would you like me to sue you for all the damage your tree is doing to my property, or would you rather let me pay to have it removed? It is going to be gone, eventually. I feel I have a perfect legal right to destroy the roots that are in my yard. Are you one of those tree huggers? Don't you give a damn about your neighbors? This thing is a real problem. Not only to the value of my property, but to personal safety for both homes. I live in a high lightning strike zone. DUH... Bart You may have to try and make your point with the neighbor again. One good argument is those trees blow over first..it's true,look it up. I could tell you how I'd kill it,but then I'd have to kill you. eg -- -- Go# 40 42 12 |
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Oh jees, this guy must have just got his first tracer program LOL
Newbies.... can't kill'em, can't get through to em. The amazingly bright Tim Fischer wrote: Trees are a major source of property value. If you were ever caught, you could be sued for tens of thousands of dollars. Your post, which is tracable to your ISP, will help serve as evidence. In short DON'T DO IT. -Tim |
To kill a pine tree...
ummm posts on top are more important then the what is replied to on the
bottom .... Nice try.... wrote: "Bart" wrote: So it basically comes down to me sueing them for the loss of property value... Tim Fischer wrote in message news:jfB6a.252384$vm2.193711@rwcrnsc54... Trees are a major source of property value. If you were ever caught, you could be sued for tens of thousands of dollars. Your post, which is tracable to your ISP, will help serve as evidence. In short DON'T DO IT. -Tim I'm not gonna tell some top posting jackass how to kill a tree. Nice try. -- Zl Arjfernqre vf orggre guna lbhef! (Rot-13) -- Tb# 40 42 12 |
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so what is their reasoning for keeping the tree? why do they want it so bad when
you offered to take it out yourself? |
To kill a pine tree...
"Die Dpammer !!!" wrote in message ... ummm posts on top are more important then the what is replied to on the bottom .... Nice try.... Uh, no. Read any netiquette book on top-posting. -Tim |
To kill a pine tree...
"Bart" wrote in message
m... Let's make you the owner of this tree. So, which would you prefer, Tim? Would you like me to sue you for all the damage your tree is doing to my property, Sure. I'd like to see the judge that awards "damages" due to tree roots in your lawn. or would you rather let me pay to have it removed? No way, unless you want to give me thousands of dollars in addition to compensate for the loss of value to my home, and my loss of enjoyment of the tree. It is going to be gone, eventually. Sure -- in a few hundred years, hopefully. I feel I have a perfect legal right to destroy the roots that are in my yard. NO. Read up on this you are incorrect. This is the same subject as tree limbs overhanging your property -- you can't remove them if it would have any chance of killing the tree. Removing roots to any significant degree would certainly kill the tree. Are you one of those tree huggers? Absolutely not. But I don't see the need to remove a valuable tree just because there's a few roots in the hard. Doesn't this tree provide ANY benefits to you? Beauty? Shade? Windbreak? Most people LIKE trees in/near their yard. Don't you give a damn about your neighbors? Rhetorical question -- doesn't deserve answer. -Tim This thing is a real problem. Not only to the value of my property, but personal safety for both homes. I live in a high lightning strike zone. DUH... Bart Tim Fischer wrote in message news:J_e8a.312349$vm2.239724@rwcrnsc54... "Bart" wrote in message m... But the roots are in my yard... Yeah, that's how trees work. DUH. -Tim |
To kill a pine tree...
"Die Dpammer !!!" wrote in message
... Oh jees, this guy must have just got his first tracer program LOL Newbies.... can't kill'em, can't get through to em. I'm hardly a newbie. I've been on the internet since 1994, and active in this group, on and off, for at least five years. -Tim |
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Tim Fischer wrote in message news:wxK8a.339125$vm2.257583@rwcrnsc54... "Bart" wrote in message m... Let's make you the owner of this tree. So, which would you prefer, Tim? Would you like me to sue you for all the damage your tree is doing to my property, Sure. I'd like to see the judge that awards "damages" due to tree roots in your lawn. How about a crack in the foundation of the house? How about roof damage from the sap? How about a destroyed sprinkler system? or would you rather let me pay to have it removed? No way, unless you want to give me thousands of dollars in addition to compensate for the loss of value to my home, and my loss of enjoyment of the tree. pfft... a different kind of tree could provide as much - with far less damage to my property. It is going to be gone, eventually. Sure -- in a few hundred years, hopefully. Wood bores and other insects will take it out sooner than that. One lightning strike could have it falling on my house and killing someone. I've already had to break off some dead branches. I feel I have a perfect legal right to destroy the roots that are in my yard. NO. Read up on this you are incorrect. This is the same subject as tree limbs overhanging your property -- you can't remove them if it would have any chance of killing the tree. Removing roots to any significant degree would certainly kill the tree. oops... Are you one of those tree huggers? Absolutely not. But I don't see the need to remove a valuable tree just because there's a few roots in the hard. Doesn't this tree provide ANY benefits to you? Beauty? Shade? Windbreak? Most people LIKE trees in/near their yard. Nope. No benefit at all. Most folks in the neighborhood have removed their giant pines because of lightening fears and liability problems. Bart |
To kill a pine tree...
Die Dpammer !!! wrote in message ... so what is their reasoning for keeping the tree? why do they want it so bad when you offered to take it out yourself? It isn't bothering them. Bart |
To kill a pine tree...
Just tell them you're putting an underground swimming pool in. Dig a hole to
take out the roots. Add a little salt. Say, "Well, it's going to be more expensive than I thought to build a swimming pool." Fill the hole in, and wait for it to die. "Bart" wrote in message ... Tim Fischer wrote in message news:wxK8a.339125$vm2.257583@rwcrnsc54... "Bart" wrote in message m... Let's make you the owner of this tree. So, which would you prefer, Tim? Would you like me to sue you for all the damage your tree is doing to my property, Sure. I'd like to see the judge that awards "damages" due to tree roots in your lawn. How about a crack in the foundation of the house? How about roof damage from the sap? How about a destroyed sprinkler system? or would you rather let me pay to have it removed? No way, unless you want to give me thousands of dollars in addition to compensate for the loss of value to my home, and my loss of enjoyment of the tree. pfft... a different kind of tree could provide as much - with far less damage to my property. It is going to be gone, eventually. Sure -- in a few hundred years, hopefully. Wood bores and other insects will take it out sooner than that. One lightning strike could have it falling on my house and killing someone. I've already had to break off some dead branches. I feel I have a perfect legal right to destroy the roots that are in my yard. NO. Read up on this you are incorrect. This is the same subject as tree limbs overhanging your property -- you can't remove them if it would have any chance of killing the tree. Removing roots to any significant degree would certainly kill the tree. oops... Are you one of those tree huggers? Absolutely not. But I don't see the need to remove a valuable tree just because there's a few roots in the hard. Doesn't this tree provide ANY benefits to you? Beauty? Shade? Windbreak? Most people LIKE trees in/near their yard. Nope. No benefit at all. Most folks in the neighborhood have removed their giant pines because of lightening fears and liability problems. Bart |
To kill a pine tree...
Yak urine will do it. Buy a Yak and tie it to the tree.
Die Dpammer !!! wrote in message ... so what is their reasoning for keeping the tree? why do they want it so bad when you offered to take it out yourself? |
To kill a pine tree...
"John" wrote in message ... Just tell them you're putting an underground swimming pool in. Dig a hole to take out the roots. Add a little salt. Say, "Well, it's going to be more expensive than I thought to build a swimming pool." Fill the hole in, and wait for it to die. I realize that you're not being serious, but this, too isn't legal. It's illegal to kill a neighbors tree, even if done from your property. In fact, this was the subject of an episode of "Dave's World". They wanted to put in a pool, but it was going to kill their neighbor's tree, so they had to get her permisison: http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet...561/epid-24690 / -Tim |
To kill a pine tree...
It's only illegal if you get caught.....
"Tim Fischer" wrote in message news:k9b9a.359013$be.332614@rwcrnsc53... "John" wrote in message ... Just tell them you're putting an underground swimming pool in. Dig a hole to take out the roots. Add a little salt. Say, "Well, it's going to be more expensive than I thought to build a swimming pool." Fill the hole in, and wait for it to die. I realize that you're not being serious, but this, too isn't legal. It's illegal to kill a neighbors tree, even if done from your property. In fact, this was the subject of an episode of "Dave's World". They wanted to put in a pool, but it was going to kill their neighbor's tree, so they had to get her permisison: http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet...561/epid-24690 / -Tim |
To kill a pine tree...
I like to see happy trees, but I also agree that within reasonable
extent. I don't see somebody bringing you to court, investigating the death of a tree, or really making that huge of a deal about a huge tree like that dying. I don't know exactly what it takes to kill a tree, but they have mentioned sal****er. If I were you, I'd go buy plenty of salt. Just back off of the whole tree thing with them, act like everything is ok. When it starts to die, they'll hire an arborist and pay tons of money to get it removed. Let them have it their way. You can only try to be civil so many times. =will= |
To kill a pine tree...
"John" wrote in message
... It's only illegal if you get caught..... OK, so my neighbor puts in a swimming pool near my tree, after complaining about my tree and asking to cut it down, and now my tree dies. I'm not supposed to suspect any coincidence? I think he'd be "caught". -Tim |
To kill a pine tree...
Perhaps the proper request would have been to ask how to turn the sap off.
Tieing a small loose chain aorund the base of the tree and allow a small very busy dog to test the strength of the chain. The small dog will get bigger and you may need to know just what size of chain to buy as he or she gets older. As time goes by Someone is going to think that pine tree is a fire hazard and will beg you to cut it down.. Some neighbors may beg you or offer to do it them selves. Depends on your neighbors. Dont leave your dog unnattended some one may try to rescue it for the dispicable person who would dare tie a dog to a tree. "will" wrote in message ... I like to see happy trees, but I also agree that within reasonable extent. I don't see somebody bringing you to court, investigating the death of a tree, or really making that huge of a deal about a huge tree like that dying. I don't know exactly what it takes to kill a tree, but they have mentioned sal****er. If I were you, I'd go buy plenty of salt. Just back off of the whole tree thing with them, act like everything is ok. When it starts to die, they'll hire an arborist and pay tons of money to get it removed. Let them have it their way. You can only try to be civil so many times. =will= |
OH God.. don't do the salt!! I did that and it left a terrible yellow/white ring around everything in the area.. grass.. weeds.. man.. it looked deliberate. There are a lot of ways to kill the darn thing. Keep bumping the roots with your lawn mower and oops! Don't you see bug infestation right there that needs spraying?
I killed a couple of my trees/bushes by accidently pouring Muiatic Acid off the side of my deck. AND it had been diluted with water!! It started showing signs of distress aobut two weeks later. I KNEW what I had done and had to pay for it... you could try that. These tree huggers haven't a clue what you are going through. I do.. And I am going to do what I can to 'get it' done.. sue me.... |
Hey Bart, I feel your pain!!! Stop listening to Tim the tree hugging Liberal, take down the tree that I know is making your life miserable. Just because you wrote in a blog that you want to do it isn't grounds for evidence. That would have to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. dont be seen and you should be ok.
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I'm with Bart - kill the tree or sue your neighbour. I'm here on the south coast of Australia and I have THREE of these trees towering down on me, destroying my property, and I'd like to know how to kill them too! Damn it I'll walk down to the beach and haul loads of salty water, boil it up, pour it on, have a pee at the same time, put some nice salty kelp around the base and then blow really hard, in the hope they might all topple over on my neighbour's house, and then I'll have a party and plant a bonsai in their memory. RIP.
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I'm hardly a newbie. I've been on the internet since 1994, and active in
this group, on and off, for at least five years. -Tim Good on you Tim, that's great - got a chainsaw? Or some salt handy? I'll buy you a ticket to Bart's place and donate the spade (shovel, or whatever you call it over there....) |
Hi,
Bart, we have EXACTLY the same problem with our neighbour and a 70-80ft Cedar. Same needles, same gutter same roof, same car issue, and worse, The neighbours tree has a Protection Order, which means just to trim it, an arbourculturist (sp) and an environmentalist must agree that the trim would benefit the tree. All for around 500 dollars. (Just for permission!) then the owner has to pay for any work done. We would gladly pay for it, but she doesn't see the problem because the prevailing winds littler our garden with all the droppings. One difference here is it's a cedar and no pine cones. BUT PLENTY OF NEEDLES! We have two German Shepherds, and they need to go outside a couple of times a day, and each time they come in, so do 10-50 needles. We would not be unhappy if the tree should decide to pass on to the next life, or be bumped off by a third party hitman. Cheers Kal |
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Commonly sold under the trade name "Roundup". This is applied to the green growth and makes its way down to the roots where it stops them producing food or the plant. If it comes in contact with the soil it is neutralised, so it doesn't poison anything but the plant it's applied to. It's more commonly used to control things like nettles, but I have used it to kill off unwanted bamboo plants (I'll have the Bamboo Forum flaming me now!) by painting the leaves a few times with the stuff. If you paint the green parts of the offending tree several times,this should do the trick for you. (I'd recommend doing this at night, otherwise standing at the top of a ladder painting the leaves might JUST arouse some suspicion!) Good Luck! (and don't tell them I told you!!) |
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[disclamer] The following information is given on the understandment that it will be used within limits of the law and is advice of anyonethat has LEGAL INTENTIONS:
Buy DEEP ROOT by drilling a 1 cm hole in a root and fill it with that then covering it with clingfilm and cellotape that should kill the tree that the roots belong to. :) robert |
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