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carl roberts 03-06-2003 11:32 PM

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hello all-we are actually having a spring here in Memphis! I have an old
glass container of roundup (the good stuff-concentrate) I was thinking
of using a small sponge paintbrush dipped in the roundup concentrate to
kill nutgrass and ground ivy in my bermuda grass lawn. As long as the
wet sponge makes contact with the unwanted weeds do you think this will
be sufficient for their demise?



[email protected] 04-06-2003 11:56 AM

roundup-application
 
carl roberts wrote:
hello all-we are actually having a spring here in Memphis! I have an old
glass container of roundup (the good stuff-concentrate) I was thinking
of using a small sponge paintbrush dipped in the roundup concentrate to
kill nutgrass and ground ivy in my bermuda grass lawn. As long as the
wet sponge makes contact with the unwanted weeds do you think this will
be sufficient for their demise?

Yes, but it sounds like a recipie for brown spots.

Try a more selective control:

http://tinyurl.com/dflm

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carl roberts 04-06-2003 02:56 PM

roundup-application
 
I did a section of my yard (this is a test)yesterday and I was careful
to touch only the blades of the nutgrass and leaves of the ground ivy.
just wondered how effective a (touch) of the potent concentrate would
be. Also looked at the url-Ortho is effective for nutgrass and ground ivy?

wrote:
carl roberts wrote:

hello all-we are actually having a spring here in Memphis! I have an old
glass container of roundup (the good stuff-concentrate) I was thinking
of using a small sponge paintbrush dipped in the roundup concentrate to
kill nutgrass and ground ivy in my bermuda grass lawn. As long as the
wet sponge makes contact with the unwanted weeds do you think this will
be sufficient for their demise?


Yes, but it sounds like a recipie for brown spots.

Try a more selective control:

http://tinyurl.com/dflm




Chet Hayes 04-06-2003 02:56 PM

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Yes, but I'd mix it extra strong. And more than one application may be needed.



carl roberts wrote in message ...
hello all-we are actually having a spring here in Memphis! I have an old
glass container of roundup (the good stuff-concentrate) I was thinking
of using a small sponge paintbrush dipped in the roundup concentrate to
kill nutgrass and ground ivy in my bermuda grass lawn. As long as the
wet sponge makes contact with the unwanted weeds do you think this will
be sufficient for their demise?


[email protected] 04-06-2003 10:08 PM

roundup-application
 
(Chet Hayes) wrote:
Yes, but I'd mix it extra strong. And more than one application may be
needed.

carl roberts wrote in message
...
hello all-we are actually having a spring here in Memphis! I have an
old glass container of roundup (the good stuff-concentrate) I was
thinking of using a small sponge paintbrush dipped in the roundup
concentrate to kill nutgrass and ground ivy in my bermuda grass lawn.
As long as the wet sponge makes contact with the unwanted weeds do you
think this will be sufficient for their demise?


How do you go extra strong with concentrate?

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[email protected] 04-06-2003 10:08 PM

roundup-application
 
carl roberts wrote:
I did a section of my yard (this is a test)yesterday and I was careful
to touch only the blades of the nutgrass and leaves of the ground ivy.
just wondered how effective a (touch) of the potent concentrate would
be. Also looked at the url-Ortho is effective for nutgrass and ground
ivy?

That's what it says. It may need more than one dose, so it would
be less expensive to buy the concentrate.

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[email protected] 04-06-2003 11:20 PM

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wrote:
(Chet Hayes) wrote:
Yes, but I'd mix it extra strong. And more than one application may be
needed.

carl roberts wrote in message
...
hello all-we are actually having a spring here in Memphis! I have an
old glass container of roundup (the good stuff-concentrate) I was
thinking of using a small sponge paintbrush dipped in the roundup
concentrate to kill nutgrass and ground ivy in my bermuda grass lawn.
As long as the wet sponge makes contact with the unwanted weeds do
you think this will be sufficient for their demise?


How do you go extra strong with concentrate?

Let me amend that..I read it as, he's gonna sponge concentrated
round up on to the weeds. I might be reading it wrong. (?)

Don't laugh, stranger things are done everyday. g

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Dave G 05-06-2003 12:08 AM

roundup-application
 
If you are going to do a wick or sponge application you can mix it
stronger but don't go crazy. If you mix it to strong all you will do
is burn the foliage and not translocate the glysohate into the plant.

On 04 Jun 2003 21:04:39 GMT, wrote:

(Chet Hayes) wrote:
Yes, but I'd mix it extra strong. And more than one application may be
needed.

carl roberts wrote in message
...
hello all-we are actually having a spring here in Memphis! I have an
old glass container of roundup (the good stuff-concentrate) I was
thinking of using a small sponge paintbrush dipped in the roundup
concentrate to kill nutgrass and ground ivy in my bermuda grass lawn.
As long as the wet sponge makes contact with the unwanted weeds do you
think this will be sufficient for their demise?


How do you go extra strong with concentrate?

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[email protected] 05-06-2003 12:21 AM

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(Dave G) wrote:
If you are going to do a wick or sponge application you can mix it
stronger but don't go crazy. If you mix it to strong all you will do
is burn the foliage and not translocate the glysohate into the plant.

Why wouldn't you use something more selective on your lawn?

Nutsedge and ground ivy can be controlled with MSMA. (old school)

I'd treat the nutgrass and ground ivy with two seperate
products. (neither would be roundup or wick app)

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Carl e Roberts 05-06-2003 02:56 PM

roundup-application
 
so I actually do need to mix some water with the roundup concentrate (in order
to translocate the glysohate into the plant) -what would be the mix ratio
(water to concentrate)? This roundup I have was given to me years ago (it is
in a one liter glass "Tab" bottle) with no mix directions..

Dave G wrote:

If you are going to do a wick or sponge application you can mix it
stronger but don't go crazy. If you mix it to strong all you will do
is burn the foliage and not translocate the glysohate into the plant.

On 04 Jun 2003 21:04:39 GMT, wrote:

(Chet Hayes) wrote:
Yes, but I'd mix it extra strong. And more than one application may be
needed.

carl roberts wrote in message
...
hello all-we are actually having a spring here in Memphis! I have an
old glass container of roundup (the good stuff-concentrate) I was
thinking of using a small sponge paintbrush dipped in the roundup
concentrate to kill nutgrass and ground ivy in my bermuda grass lawn.
As long as the wet sponge makes contact with the unwanted weeds do you
think this will be sufficient for their demise?

How do you go extra strong with concentrate?

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Carl e Roberts 05-06-2003 03:08 PM

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which two products would you recommend? mix rates? frequency of application?

I'd treat the nutgrass and ground ivy with two seperate
products. (neither would be roundup or wick app)



wrote:

(Dave G) wrote:
If you are going to do a wick or sponge application you can mix it
stronger but don't go crazy. If you mix it to strong all you will do
is burn the foliage and not translocate the glysohate into the plant.

Why wouldn't you use something more selective on your lawn?

Nutsedge and ground ivy can be controlled with MSMA. (old school)

I'd treat the nutgrass and ground ivy with two seperate
products. (neither would be roundup or wick app)

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tommyboy 05-06-2003 04:56 PM

roundup-application
 
carl roberts wrote in message ...
hello all-we are actually having a spring here in Memphis! I have an old
glass container of roundup (the good stuff-concentrate) I was thinking
of using a small sponge paintbrush dipped in the roundup concentrate to
kill nutgrass and ground ivy in my bermuda grass lawn. As long as the
wet sponge makes contact with the unwanted weeds do you think this will
be sufficient for their demise?



the correct mixture for concentrate is 6 fl ounces (12 tbls) per
gallon of water. dont waste it using it straight imho.

Dave G 05-06-2003 06:32 PM

roundup-application
 
I'm not sure but I thought we were talking about a rock garden
On 04 Jun 2003 23:18:49 GMT, wrote:

(Dave G) wrote:
If you are going to do a wick or sponge application you can mix it
stronger but don't go crazy. If you mix it to strong all you will do
is burn the foliage and not translocate the glysohate into the plant.

Why wouldn't you use something more selective on your lawn?

Nutsedge and ground ivy can be controlled with MSMA. (old school)

I'd treat the nutgrass and ground ivy with two seperate
products. (neither would be roundup or wick app)

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Dave G 05-06-2003 06:32 PM

roundup-application
 
What is the percentage of glyphosate.
On Thu, 05 Jun 2003 08:55:09 -0500, Carl e Roberts
wrote:

so I actually do need to mix some water with the roundup concentrate (in order
to translocate the glysohate into the plant) -what would be the mix ratio
(water to concentrate)? This roundup I have was given to me years ago (it is
in a one liter glass "Tab" bottle) with no mix directions..

Dave G wrote:

If you are going to do a wick or sponge application you can mix it
stronger but don't go crazy. If you mix it to strong all you will do
is burn the foliage and not translocate the glysohate into the plant.

On 04 Jun 2003 21:04:39 GMT, wrote:

(Chet Hayes) wrote:
Yes, but I'd mix it extra strong. And more than one application may be
needed.

carl roberts wrote in message
...
hello all-we are actually having a spring here in Memphis! I have an
old glass container of roundup (the good stuff-concentrate) I was
thinking of using a small sponge paintbrush dipped in the roundup
concentrate to kill nutgrass and ground ivy in my bermuda grass lawn.
As long as the wet sponge makes contact with the unwanted weeds do you
think this will be sufficient for their demise?

How do you go extra strong with concentrate?

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Dave G 05-06-2003 06:44 PM

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I just went back and read a couple of the old messages. Yeah you are
right. RoundUp is not the solution. A selective broadcast herbicide
is what he needs. I'm in Florida and the only thing we use MSMA is
burmuda grass. 24D+Dicamba for bahia grass, atrazine on st augustine
grass. I think Image is supposed to control purple nut sedge.

While all this sounds good and well the bottom line is if you have a
thick healthy lawn you won't have a weed problem.

dg
On 04 Jun 2003 23:18:49 GMT, wrote:

(Dave G) wrote:
If you are going to do a wick or sponge application you can mix it
stronger but don't go crazy. If you mix it to strong all you will do
is burn the foliage and not translocate the glysohate into the plant.

Why wouldn't you use something more selective on your lawn?

Nutsedge and ground ivy can be controlled with MSMA. (old school)

I'd treat the nutgrass and ground ivy with two seperate
products. (neither would be roundup or wick app)

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Carl e Roberts 06-06-2003 03:32 PM

roundup-application
 
I've been away from my lawn for two years and these are the two prevalent
remaining weeds in my yard- nutgrass (nutsedge) and ground ivy (creeping
charlie). I have a good stand of bermuda grass going-but it really takes a
little more heat than what we have been having to make the bermuda happy.
The nutgrass and ground ivy are more sporadic than prevalent which is why I'd
be willing to do the sponge (contact) method with the roundup. I was hoping
(with the proper dilution) that just a touch of this wicked roundup-brush
would kill nutgrass and ground ivy down to the root. And in the meantime I am
trying to "accentuate the positive" -fertilizing and watering the bermuda to
encourage growth and have a "thick healthy lawn so I won't have a weed
problem".

Dave G wrote:



While all this sounds good and well the bottom line is if you have a
thick healthy lawn you won't have a weed problem.





Dave G 06-06-2003 09:56 PM

roundup-application
 
It sounds like you are trying to avoid sprigging or resodding. In the
long run that might be cost foolish. Why not use Image or Basagran
for the sedge (depending weither it is yellow sedge or purple sedge).
I don't know if MSMA controls ground ivy or not. I think you can
spray 24D on burmuda to controll broadleaf weeds. Get the weeds under
control without harming your existing turf then sprig or sod the bare
areas. Also give your local extension office a call. They will give
you tons of info.
On Fri, 06 Jun 2003 09:30:26 -0500, Carl e Roberts
wrote:

I've been away from my lawn for two years and these are the two prevalent
remaining weeds in my yard- nutgrass (nutsedge) and ground ivy (creeping
charlie). I have a good stand of bermuda grass going-but it really takes a
little more heat than what we have been having to make the bermuda happy.
The nutgrass and ground ivy are more sporadic than prevalent which is why I'd
be willing to do the sponge (contact) method with the roundup. I was hoping
(with the proper dilution) that just a touch of this wicked roundup-brush
would kill nutgrass and ground ivy down to the root. And in the meantime I am
trying to "accentuate the positive" -fertilizing and watering the bermuda to
encourage growth and have a "thick healthy lawn so I won't have a weed
problem".

Dave G wrote:



While all this sounds good and well the bottom line is if you have a
thick healthy lawn you won't have a weed problem.






[email protected] 07-06-2003 12:08 AM

roundup-application
 
(Dave G) wrote:
It sounds like you are trying to avoid sprigging or resodding. In the
long run that might be cost foolish. Why not use Image or Basagran
for the sedge (depending weither it is yellow sedge or purple sedge).
I don't know if MSMA controls ground ivy or not.

MSMA will control ground ivy too. That Ortho product I suggested is
all a DIY'er needs for that problem.

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[email protected] 07-06-2003 12:20 AM

roundup-application
 
Carl e Roberts wrote:
I've been away from my lawn for two years and these are the two prevalent
remaining weeds in my yard- nutgrass (nutsedge) and ground ivy (creeping
charlie). I have a good stand of bermuda grass going-but it really takes
a little more heat than what we have been having to make the bermuda
happy. The nutgrass and ground ivy are more sporadic than prevalent which
is why I'd be willing to do the sponge (contact) method with the roundup.
I was hoping (with the proper dilution) that just a touch of this wicked
roundup-brush would kill nutgrass and ground ivy down to the root. And in
the meantime I am trying to "accentuate the positive" -fertilizing and
watering the bermuda to encourage growth and have a "thick healthy lawn
so I won't have a weed problem".

Dave G wrote:



While all this sounds good and well the bottom line is if you have a
thick healthy lawn you won't have a weed problem.


Healthy lawns get weeds too. Try the selective control first.

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Dave G 07-06-2003 02:32 PM

roundup-application
 
(Dave G) wrote:
It sounds like you are trying to avoid sprigging or resodding. In the
long run that might be cost foolish. Why not use Image or Basagran
for the sedge (depending weither it is yellow sedge or purple sedge).
I don't know if MSMA controls ground ivy or not.

MSMA will control ground ivy too. That Ortho product I suggested is
all a DIY'er needs for that problem.


Thanks for letting me know. Most burmuda grass in this area is on
golf courses. Most of my experience is with residential turf. St
Augustine and Bahia grass.


Tom J 08-06-2003 07:44 PM

roundup-application
 

"carl roberts" wrote in message
...
I did a section of my yard (this is a test)yesterday and I was careful
to touch only the blades of the nutgrass and leaves of the ground ivy.
just wondered how effective a (touch) of the potent concentrate would
be. Also looked at the url-Ortho is effective for nutgrass and ground ivy?


I took ivy out of a wooded area in my rear yard over 5 years ago. I am still
using roundup 2 or 3 times a year, trying to kill the last of the roots that
are still alive. If any return next year, I go to brush killer!!

Tom J



Die Spammer 09-06-2003 10:08 AM

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How do you go extra strong with concentrate?

less water then recommended....


[email protected] 09-06-2003 12:20 PM

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wrote:
How do you go extra strong with concentrate?


less water then recommended....

No shit. I thought he was going to paint the concentrate on.

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