weed and feed
 

Is there a specific time of day/ wetness of grass to apply weed and feed or
can it be done anytime ..And what sems to be a good brand wich kills most
broad leaf weeds .thanks..Steve

"DRVNGUY" wrote:
Is there a specific time of day/ wetness of grass to apply weed and feed
or can it be done anytime ..And what sems to be a good brand wich kills
most broad leaf weeds .thanks..Steve

Hi Steve, (cool name)

You need to put weed -n- feed powder down early in the morning when there's
a good dew on. I mean wipe it with your hand first and make sure it's wet.

Also be sure there is -no- rain in the forecast for at least 24 hours after
your treatment.

Brands are a relative question and Scotts plus two is a good homeowner
product. It ain't the cheapest one tho..

DRVNGUY wrote:

Is there a specific time of day/ wetness of grass to apply weed and feed or
can it be done anytime ..And what sems to be a good brand wich kills most
broad leaf weeds .thanks..Steve


I use a cannister garden sprayer for applying liquid broadleaf weed
killer. Just avoid doing it before a rain. It's quite a bit less
expensive than powders, little is wasted and there isn't a runoff problem.

"I use a cannister garden sprayer for applying liquid broadleaf weed
killer. Just avoid doing it before a rain. It's quite a bit less
expensive than powders, little is wasted and there isn't a runoff
problem. "

I agree. It's less stressfull to the grass, far less harmful to the
environment and more effective on the weeds. IMO, the only time weed n
feed is a good option is when the lawn is really full of broadleaf
weeds due to previous lack of control.

"He didn't ask for the tree hugger suggestion. Of course it's hard to
tell
from this post after you'z snipped the OP.

He asked for advice on which weather was best for using weed -n- feed,
you
know that stuff they drop off by the tractor trailer load at home
depot?

If someone asks for the most environmentally friendly approach, your
advice
would apply better than mine. "


I don't think it's a question of whose advice applies best. There are
a lot of people that think weed n feed products are the best and/or
only solution to weed control. And they routinely apply it to lawns
with only a few weeds. I was only trying to offer not only a more
effective, but also a more environmentally friendly alternative. I
think we all have an obligation to use as little herbicides as
possible, not toss it around needlessly. If that makes me a "tree
hugger", so be it.

Steveo wrote:
He didn't ask for the tree hugger suggestion. Of course it's hard to tell
from this post after you'z snipped the OP.

He asked for advice on which weather was best for using weed -n- feed, you
know that stuff they drop off by the tractor trailer load at home depot?

If someone asks for the most environmentally friendly approach, your
advice
would apply better than mine.

If someone asks what the least painful way to commit suicide is, it's
irresponsible to simply tell them which method you think is best without at
least a cursory check to see why they think suicide is the right solution.
Suggesting that there are less drastic options that may be more suitable may
be all it takes to save the life of someone who didn't realize they had no
options.

Or if you want a less dramatic analogy, if someone asks what's the best way
to scale a building to was the outside of a window that can't be reached by
a ladder, it only makes sense to make sure that the person understands that
some windows can flip around so you can clean the outside from the inside
before they start repelling down the side of the building.

Or if a couple with no kids asks the real estate agent to find them a 3
"bedroom" house, it would be dumb not to ask if a 2 "bedroom" house with a
"den" might meet their needs as well -- or perhaps better. Suggesting a 2
bedroom house with a den as an alternative to a 3 bedroom house is not
inappropriate.

Many people think that weed and feed is their only option in lawn care. It's
usually the only lawn care solution advertised on TV. There are pallets of
the stuff down at Home Depot. Some grocery stores even carry it at this time
of the year. Given that it's seldom the best solution, and the overall risks
of making it a regular part of their lawn care, it is irresponsible not to
at least mention that weed and feed is not the only way.

The question someone asks may not be the question they really need answered.
They may not know that they've gotten a step ahead of themselves. Or they're
asking the more advanced question because they feel foolish asking the more
elementary question. Or they think the more elementary question is too
general to get a specific answer.

If you're going to simply answer the literal question someone asks without
any regard for the context of the question, you're not doing anyone any
favors. And calling someone who questions the context of the original
question a derogatory name is even less helpful.

--
Warren H.

==========
Disclaimer: My views reflect those of myself, and not my
employer, my friends, nor (as she often tells me) my wife.
Any resemblance to the views of anybody living or dead is
coincidental. No animals were hurt in the writing of this
response -- unless you count my dog who desperately wants
to go outside now.
Care for your landscape with Black and Decker cordless tools
http://www.holzemville.com/mall/blac...ker/index.html

HUH?



Warren wrote:
Steveo wrote:

He didn't ask for the tree hugger suggestion. Of course it's hard to tell
from this post after you'z snipped the OP.

He asked for advice on which weather was best for using weed -n- feed, you
know that stuff they drop off by the tractor trailer load at home depot?

If someone asks for the most environmentally friendly approach, your
advice
would apply better than mine.


If someone asks what the least painful way to commit suicide is, it's
irresponsible to simply tell them which method you think is best without at
least a cursory check to see why they think suicide is the right solution.
Suggesting that there are less drastic options that may be more suitable may
be all it takes to save the life of someone who didn't realize they had no
options.

Or if you want a less dramatic analogy, if someone asks what's the best way
to scale a building to was the outside of a window that can't be reached by
a ladder, it only makes sense to make sure that the person understands that
some windows can flip around so you can clean the outside from the inside
before they start repelling down the side of the building.

Or if a couple with no kids asks the real estate agent to find them a 3
"bedroom" house, it would be dumb not to ask if a 2 "bedroom" house with a
"den" might meet their needs as well -- or perhaps better. Suggesting a 2
bedroom house with a den as an alternative to a 3 bedroom house is not
inappropriate.

Many people think that weed and feed is their only option in lawn care. It's
usually the only lawn care solution advertised on TV. There are pallets of
the stuff down at Home Depot. Some grocery stores even carry it at this time
of the year. Given that it's seldom the best solution, and the overall risks
of making it a regular part of their lawn care, it is irresponsible not to
at least mention that weed and feed is not the only way.

The question someone asks may not be the question they really need answered.
They may not know that they've gotten a step ahead of themselves. Or they're
asking the more advanced question because they feel foolish asking the more
elementary question. Or they think the more elementary question is too
general to get a specific answer.

If you're going to simply answer the literal question someone asks without
any regard for the context of the question, you're not doing anyone any
favors. And calling someone who questions the context of the original
question a derogatory name is even less helpful.

"Warren" wrote:
If you're going to simply answer the literal question someone asks
without any regard for the context of the question, you're not doing
anyone any favors.

STFU and learn something for a change, Warren. Sheesh you're a crybaby.

"STFU and learn something for a change, Warren. Sheesh you're a
crybaby."


What exactly is your problem? You object to the fact that others here
like Warren and I wanted to add some additional advice, that weed n
feed isn't necessarily the best solution for weed control? Do you
think it's a good idea to just apply it regularly to an entire 10,000
sq ft lawn that has 20 weeds that could be spot treated? Or do you
think the OP, who obviously couldn't read the label directions as to
how to apply weed n feed already knows all the appropriate method of
weed control and what's appropriate? And even if he does, others read
the thread too, don't they?

Maybe you should explain what so troubles you, rather than resort to
name calling and vulgarity.

"What troubles me are assholes that don't know shit, running their pie
holes. "

In case you didn't notice you don't own this group. Others are free
to offer opinions too. What really gets me is no one was disrespectful
to you in any way or even said anything negative about your post. All
we did was offer additional info. And for no reason you resort to name
calling and vulgarity with both myself and Warren.

You've just shown everyone in the group what you really are and how
mean, ugly, and nasty you can get for no reason. I sure hope you don't
have children. If you do, I suggest you get some professional help.
From now on I'll make sure to disregard your advice, cause when it
comes from someone like you, it's less than worthless.

"DRVNGUY" wrote in message
...
Is there a specific time of day/ wetness of grass to apply weed and feed
or can it be done anytime ..And what sems to be a good brand wich kills
most broad leaf weeds .thanks..Steve

This,believe it or not, started the nastiest weed and feed thread ever in
the history of usenet...LOL

LOLOLOL thanks for all the help and extra opinions guys ..I think i have my
answers now
"Heidi the Horrible" wrote in message
...

"DRVNGUY" wrote in message
...
Is there a specific time of day/ wetness of grass to apply weed and feed
or can it be done anytime ..And what sems to be a good brand wich kills
most broad leaf weeds .thanks..Steve

This,believe it or not, started the nastiest weed and feed thread ever in
the history of usenet...LOL

LOLOLOL thanks for all the help and extra opinions guys ..I think i have my
answers now
"Heidi the Horrible" wrote in message
...

"DRVNGUY" wrote in message
...
Is there a specific time of day/ wetness of grass to apply weed and feed
or can it be done anytime ..And what sems to be a good brand wich kills
most broad leaf weeds .thanks..Steve

This,believe it or not, started the nastiest weed and feed thread ever in
the history of usenet...LOL

It's back to my kill file for you, Steveo. You are still the
ignorant and arrogant twit you were a few months ago. Some
day you may grow up and learn that other people have
opinions that are just as valid as yours. As I said before,
your attitude speaks volumes about the kind of person you are!

Waldo


Steveo wrote:
wrote:

From now on I'll make sure to disregard your advice, cause when it
comes from someone like you, it's less than worthless.


Borrow a tissue from warren, crybaby.

Waldo wrote:
It's back to my kill file for you, Steveo.

**** off, dildo. You don't have the self control to plonk me, go ahead
and admit it. You'll feel better.

"Heidi the Horrible" wrote:
"DRVNGUY" wrote in message
...
Is there a specific time of day/ wetness of grass to apply weed and
feed or can it be done anytime ..And what sems to be a good brand wich
kills most broad leaf weeds .thanks..Steve

This,believe it or not, started the nastiest weed and feed thread ever in
the history of usenet...LOL

Turn the page to pest control. :D

"Turn the page to pest control. :D "

You have nothing to smile about here. You've been abusive to several
of us for no reason. It's guys like you that destroy fine newsgroups.

plonk

"- Tom -" wrote:
plonk

ppp (public plonking is for pussys) ppp.

"All you and warren do is tell me how to post. If I left this group,
we would lose our best cool season turf guy, unless you know otherwise.


You're still ****ed about the last two times I've
corrected your bogus lawncare advice, but that's just tough.

You couldn't find your ass with both hands, let alone advise someone
about turfgrass.

Plonk me, jackass. I'll still be here to keep you in line with your
voodoo lawncare advice. "


Keep showing everyone what a great guy you are. With your attitude and
hostility, I can only imagine how you treat customers, but then maybe
you don't have any. As for me being mad because you corrected my
bogus advice twice previously, perhaps you'd like to excerpt those
posts and post them here for all to see. I'd like to see you do it,
because it never happened.

I had no issue with you prior to your attacking me with name calling,
just because I posted some advice that was 100% correct. I never
treated you with disrespect. I didn't contradict you, I didn't say
your advice was wrong. But apparently you think just your word should
be all that's spoken and for anyone to offer additonal info in a thread
is some kind of attack on you. You apparently have some kind of
inferiority complex that results in uncontrolled anger and vulgarity.

As further evidence of your attitude, a couple of posters who weren't
even involved made some posts that could have ended this nasty thread.
Neither Warren nor I responded and would have been fine with just
letting it go. But you had to come back with the pest wise crack and
now more vulgarity.

Buzzard

Hmmm, Buzzard, who are you and where did you come from? Sounds like
you and Steveo are one and the same? Do you need multiple ID's
because you have a split personality, or is it because you've made such
an ass of yourself you need another ID?

"I am a stickler for mis-information tho.."

Show me where I gave any mis-information in the start of this thread
before you started attacking me

"Buzzard is an inside joke from something else."

I think you're the real joke here!

Is there a specific time of day/ wetness of grass to apply weed and feed
or
can it be done anytime ..And what sems to be a good brand wich kills most
broad leaf weeds .thanks..Steve

Weed & feed products (especially weed killers) can be applied either by
granulated form (fertilizer w & f) or spray form. If using the latter,
spray in the early morning when the wind is low and to avoid overspray onto
sensitive vegetation. Also, spray when the weather is not above 85 degrees
F or if rain is in the forecast (24 hours). The grass doesn't have to be
completely dry to apply spray w & f products. If using a granulated form,
any time of the day that you're comfortable using a spreader is fine. The
advantages of using a granulated form is you avoid overspray and it won't
matter if it rains later in the day.

Choose the brand that kills the most number of broadleaf weeds in your
lawn. While Scott's makes the most utilitarian products with
micronutrients, other brands will be sufficient if they match the fertilizer
requirements you need (Ortho, Spectracide, Green Light, Bayer). However, if
you're lawn is heavily infested with broadleaf weeds, and the granulated
form doesn't get most of them, then you can return with a spray product to
eliminate the remaining offenders. Definitely apply any weed killer before
mid-June (or when the weather gets in the mid 90's) as you may damage your
lawn. Also, to keep the weeds down in the fall, either spray again or apply
the granulated form again to slow the growth of any seeds lying dormant over
winter and which may emerge next spring.

"evolutionman 2004" wrote:
If using a
granulated form, any time of the day that you're comfortable using a
spreader is fine.

The turf has to be wet for the granular control product to stick to
the weeds. Early morning dew works well for that.

Granular weed and feed applied to dry turf will provide almost no broadleaf
weed control.

"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"Warren" wrote:
If you're going to simply answer the literal question someone
asks
without any regard for the context of the question, you're not
doing
anyone any favors.

STFU and learn something for a change, Warren. Sheesh you're a
crybaby.

Ooh, immaturity amongst grown men is just *sooo* attractive! Some
people just come here to get advice and learn something.
You all seem to know a great deal, but sheesh, boys, you do enjoy your
whizzing contests!

Amused,
Jo

"Waldo" wrote in message
.. .
It's back to my kill file for you, Steveo. You are still the
ignorant and arrogant twit you were a few months ago.

Some
day you may grow up and learn that other people have
opinions that are just as valid as yours.

I wouldn't hold your breath for that, Waldo. Tis clearly an ingrained
personality...not likely to change. Too bad Steveo can't stick with
dispensing his credible info, opinions, etc and leave the adolescent
shtick behind.....

I can't wait for the charming words he'll have for me now. :0

Jo (the clinician who takes a break from psych newsgroups to learn
something about her land/garden etc)
Bowing out now....



As I said before,
your attitude speaks volumes about the kind of person you are!




Waldo


Steveo wrote:
wrote:

From now on I'll make sure to disregard your advice, cause when
it
comes from someone like you, it's less than worthless.


Borrow a tissue from warren, crybaby.

"Steveo" wrote in message
...
wrote:
"Turn the page to pest control. :D "

You have nothing to smile about here.

You ain't the moderator here, try as you might.

You've been abusive to several
of us for no reason.

All you and warren do is tell me how to post. If I left this group,
we would lose our best cool season turf guy, unless you know
otherwise.

If you can't stand me, plonk me. I'm not here to cotton to arm chair
lawncare guys. You're still ****ed about the last two times I've
corrected your bogus lawncare advice, but that's just tough.

It's guys like you that destroy fine newsgroups.

You couldn't find your ass with both hands, let alone advise someone
about turfgrass.

Plonk me, jackass. I'll still be here to keep you in line with your
voodoo lawncare advice.


And there's a reason you can't correct someone with respect and a
little humor, versus sophomoric vulgarity and namecalling?
Tell me, Steveo, were you the bully on the playground, or the victim?
A real man can stand up for his views without doing it from the
gutter. Lighten up, buddy.....all that pent up anger cannot be healthy
for you! Life's short....karma's permanent!

jo- tree-hugging liberal clinical social worker who just wants to
learn about lawncare & gardening without feeling like I'm listening to
juvie clients! "Hey, dog, I gotcher turfgrass right heeere" Heh.

"Jo" wrote:
Too bad Steveo can't stick with
dispensing his credible info, opinions, etc and leave the adolescent
shtick behind.....

I can't wait for the charming words he'll have for me now. :0

Another moderator wanna-be chimes in with nothing about lawncare.

Start a moderated group and share your wisdom there, Jo. I certainly
won't bother you there.

"Jo" wrote:
jo- tree-hugging liberal clinical social worker who just wants to
learn about lawncare & gardening without feeling like I'm listening to
juvie clients! "Hey, dog, I gotcher turfgrass right heeere" Heh.

Then stfu and learn something, Jo the alt.home.lawn.garden moderator
wanna-be. Sheesh, what a pantie waist.

"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"Jo" wrote:
Too bad Steveo can't stick with
dispensing his credible info, opinions, etc and leave the
adolescent
shtick behind.....

I can't wait for the charming words he'll have for me now. :0

Another moderator wanna-be chimes in with nothing about lawncare.

Start a moderated group and share your wisdom there, Jo. I certainly
won't bother you there.

I have no desire to moderate. I was commenting on how lovely it would
be to be able to read your wisdom without the, well, you know, manure
thrown in. There. I commented about lawn care, may I stay now, Steveo?

jo

"Jo" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"Jo" wrote:
Too bad Steveo can't stick with
dispensing his credible info, opinions, etc and leave the
adolescent
shtick behind.....

I can't wait for the charming words he'll have for me now. :0

Another moderator wanna-be chimes in with nothing about lawncare.

Start a moderated group and share your wisdom there, Jo. I certainly
won't bother you there.

I have no desire to moderate. I was commenting on how lovely it would
be to be able to read your wisdom without the, well, you know, manure
thrown in. There. I commented about lawn care, may I stay now, Steveo?

jo

I don't have any control over you staying or leaving. See how that works? :)

"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"Jo" wrote:
jo- tree-hugging liberal clinical social worker who just wants to
learn about lawncare & gardening without feeling like I'm
listening to
juvie clients! "Hey, dog, I gotcher turfgrass right heeere" Heh.

Then stfu and learn something, Jo the alt.home.lawn.garden moderator
wanna-be. Sheesh, what a pantie waist.

stfu? How predictable. BTW, that's panty waste, hon. And your
diagnosis of me is waay off target. I ain't no wanna-be!
I guess I'll have to limit my learning to those I can respect.

Back to lurking.....

jo

"Jo" wrote:
stfu? How predictable. BTW, that's panty waste, hon.

Oh good, a spelling lame works when all else fails.

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary

And your
diagnosis of me is waay off target. I ain't no wanna-be!

That would be -way-, brainiak.