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notspike 05-05-2005 04:36 PM

"Plugr' aerator
 
anyone have any experience with this turf aerator www.plugr.com . I was
wondering if the tines tore the turf as it moved along like the plug
areators that are round and you pull behind riding mower? This one
doesn't look like it would tear up the ground as the tines appear to
come 'pretty much' straight up and down. Also any other input on this
machine welcome.
thanks
bob

Buzzard 05-05-2005 10:49 PM

notspike wrote:
anyone have any experience with this turf aerator www.plugr.com . I was
wondering if the tines tore the turf as it moved along like the plug
areators that are round and you pull behind riding mower? This one
doesn't look like it would tear up the ground as the tines appear to
come 'pretty much' straight up and down. Also any other input on this
machine welcome.
thanks
bob

I like Ryan aerators...only. They run forever and are real easy to
get parts for.

notspike 06-05-2005 01:07 AM

Buzzard wrote:

notspike wrote:

anyone have any experience with this turf aerator www.plugr.com . I was
wondering if the tines tore the turf as it moved along like the plug
areators that are round and you pull behind riding mower? This one
doesn't look like it would tear up the ground as the tines appear to
come 'pretty much' straight up and down. Also any other input on this
machine welcome.
thanks
bob


I like Ryan aerators...only. They run forever and are real easy to
get parts for.


cost alot more than these. alot heavier too, harder to transport to
another yard. I wonder how these plugr hold up?

Steveo 06-05-2005 01:30 AM

notspike wrote:
Buzzard wrote:

notspike wrote:

anyone have any experience with this turf aerator www.plugr.com . I
was
wondering if the tines tore the turf as it moved along like the plug
areators that are round and you pull behind riding mower? This one
doesn't look like it would tear up the ground as the tines appear to
come 'pretty much' straight up and down. Also any other input on this
machine welcome.
thanks
bob


I like Ryan aerators...only. They run forever and are real easy to
get parts for.


cost alot more than these.

How much more?

alot heavier too, harder to transport to
another yard.

They are self propelled, are you picking them up when loading?

I wonder how these plugr hold up?

Dunno, I've never heard of them. You plan to use this commercially?

Heidi the Horrible 06-05-2005 07:42 PM


"notspike" wrote in message
...
Buzzard wrote:

notspike wrote:

anyone have any experience with this turf aerator www.plugr.com . I was
wondering if the tines tore the turf as it moved along like the plug
areators that are round and you pull behind riding mower? This one
doesn't look like it would tear up the ground as the tines appear to
come 'pretty much' straight up and down. Also any other input on this
machine welcome.
thanks
bob


I like Ryan aerators...only. They run forever and are real easy to
get parts for.


cost alot more than these. alot heavier too, harder to transport to
another yard. I wonder how these plugr hold up?


How much do these Pugr's cost ? I need one.



notspike 06-05-2005 09:29 PM

Heidi the Horrible wrote:
"notspike" wrote in message
...

Buzzard wrote:


notspike wrote:


anyone have any experience with this turf aerator www.plugr.com . I was
wondering if the tines tore the turf as it moved along like the plug
areators that are round and you pull behind riding mower? This one
doesn't look like it would tear up the ground as the tines appear to
come 'pretty much' straight up and down. Also any other input on this
machine welcome.
thanks
bob


I like Ryan aerators...only. They run forever and are real easy to
get parts for.


cost alot more than these. alot heavier too, harder to transport to
another yard. I wonder how these plugr hold up?



How much do these Pugr's cost ? I need one.


$1800-2500 for plugr
$10,000 for Ryan, used $1500 & up

notspike 06-05-2005 09:33 PM

Steveo wrote:

notspike wrote:

Buzzard wrote:


notspike wrote:


anyone have any experience with this turf aerator www.plugr.com . I
was
wondering if the tines tore the turf as it moved along like the plug
areators that are round and you pull behind riding mower? This one
doesn't look like it would tear up the ground as the tines appear to
come 'pretty much' straight up and down. Also any other input on this
machine welcome.
thanks
bob


I like Ryan aerators...only. They run forever and are real easy to
get parts for.


cost alot more than these.


How much more?


several thousand


alot heavier too, harder to transport to
another yard.


They are self propelled, are you picking them up when loading?


not the Ryan I had been using. about 10000 lbs.
2 could pick up the plugr about 200 lbs


I wonder how these plugr hold up?


Dunno, I've never heard of them. You plan to use this commercially?

no. got a few acres in a few places that need it once a year.


Steveo 07-05-2005 01:04 AM

notspike wrote:
Steveo wrote:

notspike wrote:

Buzzard wrote:


notspike wrote:


anyone have any experience with this turf aerator www.plugr.com . I
was
wondering if the tines tore the turf as it moved along like the plug
areators that are round and you pull behind riding mower? This one
doesn't look like it would tear up the ground as the tines appear to
come 'pretty much' straight up and down. Also any other input on
this machine welcome.
thanks
bob


I like Ryan aerators...only. They run forever and are real easy to
get parts for.

cost alot more than these.


How much more?


several thousand

Which model Ryan are you speaking of?

Steveo 07-05-2005 01:23 AM

notspike wrote:
Heidi the Horrible wrote:
"notspike" wrote in message
...

Buzzard wrote:


notspike wrote:


anyone have any experience with this turf aerator www.plugr.com . I
was
wondering if the tines tore the turf as it moved along like the plug
areators that are round and you pull behind riding mower? This one
doesn't look like it would tear up the ground as the tines appear to
come 'pretty much' straight up and down. Also any other input on
this machine welcome.
thanks
bob


I like Ryan aerators...only. They run forever and are real easy to
get parts for.

cost alot more than these. alot heavier too, harder to transport to
another yard. I wonder how these plugr hold up?



How much do these Pugr's cost ? I need one.


$1800-2500 for plugr

OK

$10,000 for Ryan, used $1500 & up

HUH?

notspike 08-05-2005 03:14 PM

Steveo wrote:

notspike wrote:

Heidi the Horrible wrote:

"notspike" wrote in message
.. .


Buzzard wrote:



notspike wrote:



anyone have any experience with this turf aerator www.plugr.com . I
was
wondering if the tines tore the turf as it moved along like the plug
areators that are round and you pull behind riding mower? This one
doesn't look like it would tear up the ground as the tines appear to
come 'pretty much' straight up and down. Also any other input on
this machine welcome.
thanks
bob


I like Ryan aerators...only. They run forever and are real easy to
get parts for.

cost alot more than these. alot heavier too, harder to transport to
another yard. I wonder how these plugr hold up?


How much do these Pugr's cost ? I need one.



$1800-2500 for plugr


OK

$10,000 for Ryan, used $1500 & up


HUH?


Ryan Greensaire

Jay & Mary Julson 13-05-2005 04:43 PM

I have a Plugr. I have had it for about two weeks. The reason I went with
this type is several.

1. easier to transport
2. less parts then the conventional one.
3. easier to manuver then conventional.
4. I went with the eight tine so only have eight tines instead of what the
conventional have.

To answer your question about tearing up the turf compared to the pull
behind. I cann't say as I have not used or seen the the pull behind used.
My customers are satisfied with the results.

"notspike" wrote in message
...
anyone have any experience with this turf aerator www.plugr.com . I was
wondering if the tines tore the turf as it moved along like the plug
areators that are round and you pull behind riding mower? This one
doesn't look like it would tear up the ground as the tines appear to come
'pretty much' straight up and down. Also any other input on this machine
welcome.
thanks
bob




notspike 13-05-2005 05:36 PM

Jay & Mary Julson wrote:

I have a Plugr. I have had it for about two weeks. The reason I went with
this type is several.

1. easier to transport
2. less parts then the conventional one.
3. easier to manuver then conventional.
4. I went with the eight tine so only have eight tines instead of what the
conventional have.

To answer your question about tearing up the turf compared to the pull
behind. I cann't say as I have not used or seen the the pull behind used.
My customers are satisfied with the results.


Thanks for the reply
would you recommend it?
are the holes "clean"? ie. does tines go pretty much straight up and
down and just leave a hole in the ground? The reason I ask is I would
like to use it on a putting green and holes ore ok as long as the ground
around the hole is not damaged as that takes longer to grow back in and
'heal' than a simple hole does.
does it appear well made and long lasting?
Thanks again
Bob

Heidi the Horrible 13-05-2005 05:58 PM

How much do they cost ? This isn't clear from the discussions above.

Thanks

HtH



notspike 13-05-2005 06:12 PM

Heidi the Horrible wrote:

How much do they cost ? This isn't clear from the discussions above.

Thanks

HtH


I answered you last week on this question. thread this discussion in
you newreader and look back for the answer. :)

Jay & Mary Julson 13-05-2005 06:32 PM


"notspike" wrote in message
. ..
Jay & Mary Julson wrote:

I have a Plugr. I have had it for about two weeks. The reason I went with
this type is several.

1. easier to transport
2. less parts then the conventional one.
3. easier to manuver then conventional.
4. I went with the eight tine so only have eight tines instead of what
the conventional have.

To answer your question about tearing up the turf compared to the pull
behind. I cann't say as I have not used or seen the the pull behind
used. My customers are satisfied with the results.


Thanks for the reply
would you recommend it?
are the holes "clean"? ie. does tines go pretty much straight up and down
and just leave a hole in the ground? The reason I ask is I would like to
use it on a putting green and holes ore ok as long as the ground around
the hole is not damaged as that takes longer to grow back in and 'heal'
than a simple hole does.
does it appear well made and long lasting?
Thanks again
Bob


Yes the machines is well made. The one I got weighs 275 lbs. The damage
around the holes is minimal. It depend mostly on how wet the ground is when
you aerate. The wetter the soiler the better chance of the ground sticking
to the tines like any aerator. As you know the tines run on a cam so the
tines do go straight down and the self propelled comes from the motion of
the tines. If you hit hard soil so you do not get deep penetration the
machine can almost run away from you if you are not ready (like any
aerator).

If you like I can take some pictures and email them to you. It may be a
while as it is raining here in North Dakota and has been for two days. I
can take some pictures of lawns that we did two weeks ago if you like and
you can see for your self. Our soil has a lot of clay so I do not know the
surronding soil damage potential with more sandy type soil.

If you contact Source One by telephone they can give you a dealer that may
be close by and the dealer may give you some customers near you that have
one so that you can see the results first hand.

I think you would be satisfied with a Plugr. I apologize if I am tell you
things you already know.

Jay



Heidi the Horrible 13-05-2005 09:36 PM


"notspike" wrote in message
.. .
Heidi the Horrible wrote:

How much do they cost ? This isn't clear from the discussions above.

Thanks

HtH


I answered you last week on this question. thread this discussion in you
newreader and look back for the answer. :)


Yes, but Steveo said "Huh?" and I didn't know what that meant. I was trying
to get Jay and Mary to pipe in on a price.

Thanks.




Steveo 13-05-2005 11:26 PM

"Heidi the Horrible" wrote:
How much do they cost ? This isn't clear from the discussions above.

Thanks

HtH

Hi Heidi.

How big an area are you going to aerate?

Steveo 13-05-2005 11:38 PM

"Jay & Mary Julson" wrote:
"notspike" wrote in message
. ..
Jay & Mary Julson wrote:

I have a Plugr. I have had it for about two weeks. The reason I went
with this type is several.

1. easier to transport
2. less parts then the conventional one.
3. easier to manuver then conventional.
4. I went with the eight tine so only have eight tines instead of
what the conventional have.

To answer your question about tearing up the turf compared to the pull
behind. I cann't say as I have not used or seen the the pull behind
used. My customers are satisfied with the results.


Thanks for the reply
would you recommend it?
are the holes "clean"? ie. does tines go pretty much straight up and
down and just leave a hole in the ground? The reason I ask is I would
like to use it on a putting green and holes ore ok as long as the
ground around the hole is not damaged as that takes longer to grow back
in and 'heal' than a simple hole does.
does it appear well made and long lasting?
Thanks again
Bob


Yes the machines is well made. The one I got weighs 275 lbs. The damage
around the holes is minimal. It depend mostly on how wet the ground is
when you aerate. The wetter the soiler the better chance of the ground
sticking to the tines like any aerator. As you know the tines run on a
cam so the tines do go straight down and the self propelled comes from
the motion of the tines. If you hit hard soil so you do not get deep
penetration the machine can almost run away from you if you are not ready
(like any aerator).

If you like I can take some pictures and email them to you.

Hi J&M.

If you don't mind, please post a few to this free host. No sign-up is
required.

http://www.imageshack.us/

Thanks.

Steveo 13-05-2005 11:38 PM

"Heidi the Horrible" wrote:
"notspike" wrote in message
.. .
Heidi the Horrible wrote:

How much do they cost ? This isn't clear from the discussions above.

Thanks

HtH


I answered you last week on this question. thread this discussion in
you newreader and look back for the answer. :)


Yes, but Steveo said "Huh?"

Won't be the last time either. :)

notspike 14-05-2005 12:05 AM

Jay & Mary Julson wrote:



If you like I can take some pictures and email them to you. It may be a
while as it is raining here in North Dakota and has been for two days. I
can take some pictures of lawns that we did two weeks ago if you like and
you can see for your self. Our soil has a lot of clay so I do not know the
surronding soil damage potential with more sandy type soil.


thanks. if you can post them to the site steveo mentioned that would be
greatly appreciated.

Jay & Mary Julson 14-05-2005 12:38 AM

The price ranges from $1700 to $2700. $1700 for the 22 inch with 4 tines
and there is a 6 and 8 tine 30 inch. The 8 tine 30 inch is $2700.

I will post pictures when I get them.
Jay
"Heidi the Horrible" wrote in message
...
How much do they cost ? This isn't clear from the discussions above.

Thanks

HtH





Heidi the Horrible 14-05-2005 12:48 AM


"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"Heidi the Horrible" wrote:
How much do they cost ? This isn't clear from the discussions above.

Thanks

HtH

Hi Heidi.

How big an area are you going to aerate?


Well, I have ten acres or so or low maintainence lawn and I drag a cheap
roller aerator from Lowes and it works fine. However, I have about half an
acre of nice lawn around the house that is impossible to get the 'drag
behind' into. These areas are high traffic and suffer from compaction and
I'd love to punch them a couple times a year. I'm weighing owning vs
renting. Owning is expensive and comes with maintainence issues but renting
is a pain for me for a couple of reasons.

HtH




Steveo 14-05-2005 12:51 AM

"Jay & Mary Julson" wrote:
The price ranges from $1700 to $2700. $1700 for the 22 inch with 4 tines
and there is a 6 and 8 tine 30 inch. The 8 tine 30 inch is $2700.

I will post pictures when I get them.
Jay
"Heidi the Horrible" wrote in message
...
How much do they cost ? This isn't clear from the discussions above.

Thanks

HtH



Buy a Ryan.

Steveo 14-05-2005 12:53 AM

"Heidi the Horrible" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"Heidi the Horrible" wrote:
How much do they cost ? This isn't clear from the discussions above.

Thanks

HtH

Hi Heidi.

How big an area are you going to aerate?


Well, I have ten acres or so or low maintainence lawn and I drag a cheap
roller aerator from Lowes and it works fine. However, I have about half
an acre of nice lawn around the house that is impossible to get the 'drag
behind' into. These areas are high traffic and suffer from compaction
and I'd love to punch them a couple times a year. I'm weighing owning vs
renting. Owning is expensive and comes with maintainence issues but
renting is a pain for me for a couple of reasons.

HtH

Do you have a rental place near-by? You can rent one for relatively
cheap for those tight areas.

JoeT 14-05-2005 05:58 AM


"Heidi the Horrible" wrote in message
...

"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"Heidi the Horrible" wrote:
How much do they cost ? This isn't clear from the discussions above.

Thanks

HtH

Hi Heidi.

How big an area are you going to aerate?


Well, I have ten acres or so or low maintainence lawn and I drag a cheap
roller aerator from Lowes and it works fine. However, I have about half
an acre of nice lawn around the house that is impossible to get the 'drag
behind' into. These areas are high traffic and suffer from compaction and
I'd love to punch them a couple times a year. I'm weighing owning vs
renting. Owning is expensive and comes with maintainence issues but
renting is a pain for me for a couple of reasons.

HtH



Just curious how much weight you strap onto that drag behind to get it to do
a decent job? And is it a core or spike type?

Thanks in advance.

Joe



14-05-2005 07:25 AM

A few serious questions Stevo et al.

I too, am considering an aerator. I own a 10,000 sq ft world class croquet
lawn, Tif Eagle Hybrid Bermuda turf grown on a 12" sand base with 6"gravel
subsoil drainage layer. I need to aerate 3+ times a year.

Please feel free to fill in any gaps in my logic on this important purchase
decision

As of now, these are the pros and cons. (IMHO)

The Pluger is cheap: ~$1600 to $2800 (Brand New) depending on model. . New
Ryan Greensaire? ~$12000+. Used: maybe $1500 to $3000 depending on
condition, ~ 8+ years old.

My biggest concern is surface disruption. Depending on stress, summer
months my court is normally cut between 0.125" (1/8 inch) to 0.140" (9/64
inch) with my 1994 TORO 3100 Triplex. The entire playing surface was
laser leveled within 1/4 inch. I don't need an aerator that will leave
mounds around each hole which will dull my mower reels in about 10 seconds.
I'm not so sure the Plugr will fit my needs on this I tried a Ryan rotary
aerator. It was terrible. It cost me an expensive reel grind on my mower
and took months of top dressing to become level again. (we drag a 12 ft
ladder diagonally behind a mower while topdressing)

OTOH a very old borrowed Ryan Greesaire was exceptional, my court was level
with only one heavy topdressing. It comes with small (1/4"??) tines and
larger (5/8"?) tines. Disadvantages: It was heavy, bulky and could not
aerate while negotiating curves or hills . I was admonished: "use it only
on my sandy court, never on my other lawns" (clay) which might have an
occasional stray piece of gravel or "it would sustain SERIOUS DAMAGE". Is
this really true? If so, that would severely limit its use as far as most
homeowners/lawn professionals are concerned.

It would be a bonus to have an aerator I wouln't have to baby. The Plugr
website http://www.plugr.com/ (of course) says it is vey durable, the
second best thing to a Ginsu knife (VBG) It says you can use in on any
soil, around curves, and across slopes without concern.


Lastly Stevo, I agree Ryan (and my personal favorite: Toro) make great
greens aerators , but new they are $12,000. Most used ones are in need of
costly repairs. The Plugr is new, I'm not buying someone else's problem
machine. Other than owning one, do you have any other reasons to buy a
Ryan? More importantly, have you ever seen (or used) a Plugr in action?
If so, will it fit my needs? I sure would like an inexpensive (non used)
alternative to Ryan/Toro. Can you provide specific reasons not to buy a
Plugr?

Dr. J











Steveo 14-05-2005 12:23 PM

wrote:
A few serious questions Stevo et al.

I too, am considering an aerator. I own a 10,000 sq ft world class
croquet lawn, Tif Eagle Hybrid Bermuda turf grown on a 12" sand base
with 6"gravel subsoil drainage layer. I need to aerate 3+ times a year.

-snip-

Sorry, dochuff, Bermuda is something I know almost nothing about here
in Ohio. Good luck with your decision.

red [email protected] 14-05-2005 05:19 PM

A few serious questions Stevo et al.

I too, am considering an aerator. I own a 10,000 sq ft world class croquet
lawn, Tif Eagle Hybrid Bermuda turf grown on a 12" sand base with 6"gravel
subsoil drainage layer. I need to aerate 3+ times a year.

Please feel free to fill in any gaps in my logic on this important purchase
decision

As of now, these are the pros and cons. (IMHO)

The Pluger is cheap: ~$1600 to $2800 (Brand New) depending on model. . New
Ryan Greensaire? ~$12000+. Used: maybe $1500 to $3000 depending on
condition, ~ 8+ years old.

My biggest concern is surface disruption. Depending on stress, summer
months my court is normally cut between 0.125" (1/8 inch) to 0.140" (9/64
inch) with my 1994 TORO 3100 Triplex. The entire playing surface was
laser leveled within 1/4 inch. I don't need an aerator that will leave
mounds around each hole which will dull my mower reels in about 10 seconds.
I'm not so sure the Plugr will fit my needs on this I tried a Ryan rotary
aerator. It was terrible. It cost me an expensive reel grind on my mower
and took months of top dressing to become level again. (we drag a 12 ft
ladder diagonally behind a mower while topdressing)

OTOH a very old borrowed Ryan Greesaire was exceptional, my court was level
with only one heavy topdressing. It comes with small (1/4"??) tines and
larger (5/8"?) tines. Disadvantages: It was heavy, bulky and could not
aerate while negotiating curves or hills . I was admonished: "use it only
on my sandy court, never on my other lawns" (clay) which might have an
occasional stray piece of gravel or "it would sustain SERIOUS DAMAGE". Is
this really true? If so, that would severely limit its use as far as most
homeowners/lawn professionals are concerned.

It would be a bonus to have an aerator I wouln't have to baby. The Plugr
website http://www.plugr.com/ (of course) says it is vey durable, the
second best thing to a Ginsu knife (VBG) It says you can use in on any
soil, around curves, and across slopes without concern.


Lastly Stevo, I agree Ryan (and my personal favorite: Toro) make great
greens aerators , but new they are $12,000. Most used ones are in need of
costly repairs. The Plugr is new, I'm not buying someone else's problem
machine. Other than owning one, do you have any other reasons to buy a
Ryan? More importantly, have you ever seen (or used) a Plugr in action?
If so, will it fit my needs? I sure would like an inexpensive (non used)
alternative to Ryan/Toro. Can you provide specific reasons not to buy a
Plugr?

Dr. J












Heidi the Horrible 14-05-2005 07:06 PM


"JoeT" noway@today wrote in message
...

"Heidi the Horrible" wrote in message
...

"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"Heidi the Horrible" wrote:
How much do they cost ? This isn't clear from the discussions above.

Thanks

HtH

Hi Heidi.

How big an area are you going to aerate?


Well, I have ten acres or so or low maintainence lawn and I drag a cheap
roller aerator from Lowes and it works fine. However, I have about half
an acre of nice lawn around the house that is impossible to get the 'drag
behind' into. These areas are high traffic and suffer from compaction
and I'd love to punch them a couple times a year. I'm weighing owning vs
renting. Owning is expensive and comes with maintainence issues but
renting is a pain for me for a couple of reasons.

HtH



Just curious how much weight you strap onto that drag behind to get it to
do a decent job? And is it a core or spike type?

Thanks in advance.

Joe



I have a core aerator I bought from Lowes. I strap four cement blocks on
there and pull it behind the 4-wheeler (faster than the mower). I punch
when the grass is dry but the soil is moist. If the ground is dry, then it
doesn't dig deep enough and if the ground is too wet it is a muddy mess and
if the grass is wet, then I can't get good traction with all the weight.

I totally trashed the thing after about five seasons of rough use but they
are fairly cheap and I'll just get another.

HtH



Heidi the Horrible 14-05-2005 07:16 PM


wrote in message
.. .
A few serious questions Stevo et al.

I too, am considering an aerator. I own a 10,000 sq ft world class
croquet lawn, Tif Eagle Hybrid Bermuda turf grown on a 12" sand base with
6"gravel subsoil drainage layer. I need to aerate 3+ times a year.

Please feel free to fill in any gaps in my logic on this important
purchase decision

As of now, these are the pros and cons. (IMHO)

The Pluger is cheap: ~$1600 to $2800 (Brand New) depending on model. . New
Ryan Greensaire? ~$12000+. Used: maybe $1500 to $3000 depending on
condition, ~ 8+ years old.

My biggest concern is surface disruption. Depending on stress, summer
months my court is normally cut between 0.125" (1/8 inch) to 0.140" (9/64
inch) with my 1994 TORO 3100 Triplex. The entire playing surface was
laser leveled within 1/4 inch. I don't need an aerator that will leave
mounds around each hole which will dull my mower reels in about 10
seconds. I'm not so sure the Plugr will fit my needs on this I tried a
Ryan rotary aerator. It was terrible. It cost me an expensive reel grind
on my mower and took months of top dressing to become level again. (we
drag a 12 ft ladder diagonally behind a mower while topdressing)

OTOH a very old borrowed Ryan Greesaire was exceptional, my court was
level with only one heavy topdressing. It comes with small (1/4"??) tines
and larger (5/8"?) tines. Disadvantages: It was heavy, bulky and could
not aerate while negotiating curves or hills . I was admonished: "use
it only on my sandy court, never on my other lawns" (clay) which might
have an occasional stray piece of gravel or "it would sustain SERIOUS
DAMAGE". Is this really true? If so, that would severely limit its use
as far as most homeowners/lawn professionals are concerned.

It would be a bonus to have an aerator I wouln't have to baby. The Plugr
website http://www.plugr.com/ (of course) says it is vey durable, the
second best thing to a Ginsu knife (VBG) It says you can use in on any
soil, around curves, and across slopes without concern.


Lastly Stevo, I agree Ryan (and my personal favorite: Toro) make great
greens aerators , but new they are $12,000. Most used ones are in need of
costly repairs. The Plugr is new, I'm not buying someone else's problem
machine. Other than owning one, do you have any other reasons to buy a
Ryan? More importantly, have you ever seen (or used) a Plugr in action?
If so, will it fit my needs? I sure would like an inexpensive (non used)
alternative to Ryan/Toro. Can you provide specific reasons not to buy a
Plugr?

Dr. J








Hey, Dr. J.

Check out this guy....
http://www.mauicroquetclub.org/galle...anglewoodFarm/

He has an awesome court.

You could ask him what he does maintainence-wise. When I saw his court, it
was awesome.


HtH



JoeT 15-05-2005 12:27 AM


"Heidi the Horrible" wrote in message
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"JoeT" noway@today wrote in message
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"Steveo" wrote in message
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"Heidi the Horrible" wrote:
How much do they cost ? This isn't clear from the discussions above.

Thanks

HtH

Hi Heidi.

How big an area are you going to aerate?

Well, I have ten acres or so or low maintainence lawn and I drag a cheap
roller aerator from Lowes and it works fine. However, I have about half
an acre of nice lawn around the house that is impossible to get the
'drag behind' into. These areas are high traffic and suffer from
compaction and I'd love to punch them a couple times a year. I'm
weighing owning vs renting. Owning is expensive and comes with
maintainence issues but renting is a pain for me for a couple of
reasons.

HtH



Just curious how much weight you strap onto that drag behind to get it to
do a decent job? And is it a core or spike type?

Thanks in advance.

Joe



I have a core aerator I bought from Lowes. I strap four cement blocks on
there and pull it behind the 4-wheeler (faster than the mower). I punch
when the grass is dry but the soil is moist. If the ground is dry, then
it doesn't dig deep enough and if the ground is too wet it is a muddy mess
and if the grass is wet, then I can't get good traction with all the
weight.

I totally trashed the thing after about five seasons of rough use but they
are fairly cheap and I'll just get another.

HtH



Thanks Heidi, I've been thinking of getting one but seeing people write
about them tearing up turf made me a bit shy about it. I don't have a 4
wheeler just a 15.5 horse lawn tractor but I can live with goin slow, it's a
small area and maybe with a little less than four cinder blocks so I don't
end up simply spinning the tires. lol My lawn is almost devoid of anything
resembling an actually level area. I'd rent one as I used to but now have a
lower back problem that prevents me from even using a self propelled push
mower so a rental aerator is out of the question.

Joe




Heidi the Horrible 15-05-2005 02:57 AM


"JoeT" noway@today wrote in message
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"Heidi the Horrible" wrote in message
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"JoeT" noway@today wrote in message
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"Heidi the Horrible" wrote in message
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"Steveo" wrote in message
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"Heidi the Horrible" wrote:
How much do they cost ? This isn't clear from the discussions above.

Thanks

HtH

Hi Heidi.

How big an area are you going to aerate?

Well, I have ten acres or so or low maintainence lawn and I drag a
cheap roller aerator from Lowes and it works fine. However, I have
about half an acre of nice lawn around the house that is impossible to
get the 'drag behind' into. These areas are high traffic and suffer
from compaction and I'd love to punch them a couple times a year. I'm
weighing owning vs renting. Owning is expensive and comes with
maintainence issues but renting is a pain for me for a couple of
reasons.

HtH



Just curious how much weight you strap onto that drag behind to get it
to do a decent job? And is it a core or spike type?

Thanks in advance.

Joe



I have a core aerator I bought from Lowes. I strap four cement blocks on
there and pull it behind the 4-wheeler (faster than the mower). I punch
when the grass is dry but the soil is moist. If the ground is dry, then
it doesn't dig deep enough and if the ground is too wet it is a muddy
mess and if the grass is wet, then I can't get good traction with all the
weight.

I totally trashed the thing after about five seasons of rough use but
they are fairly cheap and I'll just get another.

HtH



Thanks Heidi, I've been thinking of getting one but seeing people write
about them tearing up turf made me a bit shy about it. I don't have a 4
wheeler just a 15.5 horse lawn tractor but I can live with goin slow, it's
a small area and maybe with a little less than four cinder blocks so I
don't end up simply spinning the tires. lol My lawn is almost devoid of
anything resembling an actually level area. I'd rent one as I used to but
now have a lower back problem that prevents me from even using a self
propelled push mower so a rental aerator is out of the question.

Joe



Mine doesn't tear up the turf other than the expected holes and loose plugs.
I usually punch and fertilize before a good rain is coming and the yard
looks completely normal a couple of days later.

It can be tough on the lower back though because I load on the cement blocks
and bungee them down and I get stuck once in a while when I get too greedy
on a turn. All this takes lifting and pushing and an occasional call for
help from a big, hairy man who should be doing this in the first place.

HtH





redrover 30-05-2005 03:19 PM

I bought the Plugr and tried it out yesterday. It works very well,
especially around corners. Because the tines travel in a straight line, it
disrupt the ground nearly as much as a RYAN rotary aerator. (unless you
try to go up a really steep hill)


Dr. J


"notspike" wrote in message
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anyone have any experience with this turf aerator www.plugr.com . I was
wondering if the tines tore the turf as it moved along like the plug
areators that are round and you pull behind riding mower? This one
doesn't look like it would tear up the ground as the tines appear to come
'pretty much' straight up and down. Also any other input on this machine
welcome.
thanks
bob




joe 30-05-2005 08:04 PM

redrover wrote:
I bought the Plugr and tried it out yesterday. It works very well,
especially around corners. Because the tines travel in a straight line, it
disrupt the ground nearly as much as a RYAN rotary aerator. (unless you
try to go up a really steep hill)


it does disrupt the ground like a rotary areator?

Steveo 30-05-2005 08:20 PM

joe wrote:
redrover wrote:
I bought the Plugr and tried it out yesterday. It works very well,
especially around corners. Because the tines travel in a straight
line, it disrupt the ground nearly as much as a RYAN rotary aerator.
(unless you try to go up a really steep hill)


it does disrupt the ground like a rotary areator?

They look like junk.

redrover 31-05-2005 11:20 PM

No it doesn't disrupt the ground. And a note to Stevo, just cause you
haven't seen one up close doesn't make it junk.

Dr. J




"joe" wrote in message
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redrover wrote:
I bought the Plugr and tried it out yesterday. It works very well,
especially around corners. Because the tines travel in a straight line,
it disrupt the ground nearly as much as a RYAN rotary aerator. (unless
you try to go up a really steep hill)


it does disrupt the ground like a rotary areator?




Steveo 31-05-2005 11:40 PM

"redrover" wrote:
And a note to Stevo, just cause you
haven't seen one up close doesn't make it junk.

I seen enough here to know I don't want one.

http://www.wikco.com/Plugr.html

joe 01-06-2005 12:38 AM

Steveo wrote:

"redrover" wrote:

And a note to Stevo, just cause you
haven't seen one up close doesn't make it junk.


I seen enough here to know I don't want one.

http://www.wikco.com/Plugr.html


neat movie. looks like something a pro would want. doesn't tear the
turf when the tines pop out of the ground like the aerators that roll,
which takes the grass longer to grow back over the damaged areas. Not
only do you get the benefit of areation but without the damage. A
better mousetrap?

Steveo 01-06-2005 12:51 AM

joe wrote:
Steveo wrote:

"redrover" wrote:

And a note to Stevo, just cause you
haven't seen one up close doesn't make it junk.


I seen enough here to know I don't want one.

http://www.wikco.com/Plugr.html


neat movie. looks like something a pro would want.

Yea, especially with how easy it loads.

http://img64.echo.cx/img64/7038/plugrloading5uk.jpg

Nope, I've never seen one in my 28 years of professional lawncare. The OP
said he was going to use it on his own lawn, I suppose it may be ok for
that.

joe 01-06-2005 06:25 PM

Steveo wrote:



Yea, especially with how easy it loads.

http://img64.echo.cx/img64/7038/plugrloading5uk.jpg


I especially like the helper. ;) Have you got a helper like that, Steveo?


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