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Old 25-05-2007, 08:18 PM posted to triangle.gardens
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At the risk of stating the obvious, water your tomato plants if the soil
gets dry.


I've heard it's better to just water the ground around the plant, and not soak
the leaves as well. Is that true?
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On 2007-05-26, Philip Semanchuk wrote:
In article ,
(don) wrote:

In article k.net,
wrote:

At the risk of stating the obvious, water your tomato plants if the soil
gets dry.


I've heard it's better to just water the ground around the plant, and not
soak
the leaves as well. Is that true?


Tomato plants tend to be vulnerable to fungus and mildew attacking the
leaves, especially in this humid climate. I have always operated under
the assumption that getting the leaves wet would only encourage
problems. I also made a habit of mulching the soil around my plants so
that rainwater couldn't splash dirt onto the leaves, which I've heard
aids soil-borne diseases in attacking the plants.


I have not seen TomatoLord post, but he would disagree. He shreds
leaves and puts them out 6 inches deep. He then parts the leaves and
places the plants directly on the ground not in it.

From what I have read it seems tomatoes are contaminated by soil
splashing up on the leaves. So any mulch will prevent that from
happening. I am trying a modified version. I plant in the ground, but
I mulch with several sections of the N&O held down with some bark
mulch.It is far enough out from the plant that no splashing can happen
and I will increase the circle by putting leaves to cover all the ground
between tomatoes.

As for watering, I feel deep watering once per week is preferable once
per week to more frequent watering. Somewhere between 1 and 1.5 inches
per week. How much is that well a 4x4 foot area is 1.33 cubic feet and
there are 8 gal. per cuft. so that is about 11 gallons per plant
perweek for one inch of water. Now if you get a half inch of rain then
that should be counted and only water 5 gallons more that week.

How to measure how much water, time how long it takes you to fill a 5
gallon bucket with water. Everybody's water pressure differs so this is
one fairly accurate method. If someone else in the house is running
water, that will affect the flow, so try to water when no one is
showering or washing clothes or dishes.

I feel everyone should examine what the maximum flow rate is from an
outside faucet and say 50 feet of hose. And if you are really curious,
have someone run another faucet or flush a toilet while timing it so
you can get an idea of that rate for the max time to fill a 5 gallon
bucket. Using a watering wand on the hose will also reduce the rate
from just the hose it self.

Hope this helps.


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My wife found a great trick in a book that is perfect for not only
making sure the water goes right where it needs to, but also
regulating exactly how much water the plant gets. We take empty 2
liter bottles and cut the bottom 1 inch off of the bottom with a box
cutter. We then bury them 1/2 way underground right up against the
tomato plant. Voila. You water the tomato plant by filling the bottle
with a hose. Easy peasy. You dont have to worry about run-off or over-
watering. The water enters the ground right where the roots need it,
plus the bottle itself is a perfect water-volume measuring tool.

But it should be said, mulching is a must.

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Peter F wrote:
You water the tomato plant by filling the bottle with a hose. Easy peasy.


Nice idea. Details, please.

How many buried bottles per tomato plant? One? More than
one?

How frequently do you fill those bottles with water? Daily?

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On 2007-05-29, Philip Semanchuk wrote:
In article ,
wrote:

On 2007-05-26, Philip Semanchuk wrote:
In article ,
(don) wrote:

In article k.net,
wrote:

At the risk of stating the obvious, water your tomato plants if the soil
gets dry.

I've heard it's better to just water the ground around the plant, and not
soak
the leaves as well. Is that true?

Tomato plants tend to be vulnerable to fungus and mildew attacking the
leaves, especially in this humid climate. I have always operated under
the assumption that getting the leaves wet would only encourage
problems. I also made a habit of mulching the soil around my plants so
that rainwater couldn't splash dirt onto the leaves, which I've heard
aids soil-borne diseases in attacking the plants.


I have not seen TomatoLord post, but he would disagree. He shreds
leaves and puts them out 6 inches deep. He then parts the leaves and
places the plants directly on the ground not in it.


I would not dare to argue with someone named TomatoLord! But seriously,
with which part would he disagree? Reading what you wrote, I think we're
saying the same thing -- use mulch to keep soil from splashing onto your
plants.


i think I should have read you post again. I think my brain went on
vacation mid paragraph. I could not find anything to disagree with the
when I just read it.


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don wrote:
I've heard it's better to just water the ground around the plant, and not soak
the leaves as well. Is that true?


http://www.humeseeds.com/sumtom.htm says ...


"WATERING: Run the hose at the base of the plants. Do not
water tomatoes with an over-head sprinkler. Water thoroughly
when you water, then hold off for several days, before
rewatering. At the same time don't let the plants lack for
water, as that is likely to stunt the plants, and the uneven
water supply can can result in blossom end-rot. (This
appears as a water soaked area on the blossom end of the
fruit.) I find the biggest mistake that home gardeners make
is to over water and over feed tomatoes, which results in
lush foliage growth, cool and moist soil, and just a few,
slow ripening tomatoes. Over-head watering can also be a
factor in creating blight on your tomatoes. If possible
avoid watering your tomato plants in late afternoon or early
evening. The best time to water is early morning, so the
soil has a chance to warm-up before the cooler evening hours
set-in."

Daniel B. Martin


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