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I'm adding to my previous pair of:
Cadetia clausa
Dockrillia sulphurea

Jones has three species for which I can find nothing in the Australian Plant
Name Index, & nothing in a web search. They a

Tropilis crassa
Tropilis eburna
Tropilis radiata

I'm prety sure these are simply regional variants on Dendrobium aemulum
(Jonesified as Tropilis aemula). But nowhere else can I fine listed taxonomic
varieties of D. aemulum. The texts just say it's a variable species.

If needs be, I'll just list all species against D. aemulum in the index
cross-reference I'm compiling. But, if there are published taxonomic listings
that match the above species I'd like to use them.

If anyone is more competent at internet searching than I, & can turn up
something, I'd be extremely grateful.
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It might be easier to look if the Kew database was up, it's been down for a
couple days now. With a book that new a lot of the info won't have made it
into the online databases yet. Have you asked Jones?
-danny

"Dave Gillingham" wrote in message
...
I'm adding to my previous pair of:
Cadetia clausa
Dockrillia sulphurea

Jones has three species for which I can find nothing in the Australian
Plant
Name Index, & nothing in a web search. They a

Tropilis crassa
Tropilis eburna
Tropilis radiata

I'm prety sure these are simply regional variants on Dendrobium aemulum
(Jonesified as Tropilis aemula). But nowhere else can I fine listed
taxonomic
varieties of D. aemulum. The texts just say it's a variable species.

If needs be, I'll just list all species against D. aemulum in the index
cross-reference I'm compiling. But, if there are published taxonomic
listings
that match the above species I'd like to use them.

If anyone is more competent at internet searching than I, & can turn up
something, I'd be extremely grateful.
Dave Gillingham
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On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 10:27:09 -0500, "danny" wrote:

It might be easier to look if the Kew database was up, it's been down for a
couple days now. With a book that new a lot of the info won't have made it
into the online databases yet. Have you asked Jones?
Not exactly - but I've searched the Australian Plant Name Index which, as I
understand it, is maintained through the National Botanical Gardens in Canberra
where, I understand, David Jones either works or has strong professional links.

-danny

"Dave Gillingham" wrote in message
.. .
I'm adding to my previous pair of:
Cadetia clausa
Dockrillia sulphurea

Jones has three species for which I can find nothing in the Australian
Plant
Name Index, & nothing in a web search. They a

Tropilis crassa
Tropilis eburna
Tropilis radiata

I'm prety sure these are simply regional variants on Dendrobium aemulum
(Jonesified as Tropilis aemula). But nowhere else can I fine listed
taxonomic
varieties of D. aemulum. The texts just say it's a variable species.

If needs be, I'll just list all species against D. aemulum in the index
cross-reference I'm compiling. But, if there are published taxonomic
listings
that match the above species I'd like to use them.

If anyone is more competent at internet searching than I, & can turn up
something, I'd be extremely grateful.
Dave Gillingham
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I don't think any of the new changes have been accepted by KEW.

Dockrillia sulphurea sounds like it should be Diurus sulphurea????

Is there any description of it ?????



Malcolm

"Dave Gillingham" wrote in message
...
I'm adding to my previous pair of:
Cadetia clausa
Dockrillia sulphurea

Jones has three species for which I can find nothing in the Australian
Plant
Name Index, & nothing in a web search. They a

Tropilis crassa
Tropilis eburna
Tropilis radiata

I'm prety sure these are simply regional variants on Dendrobium aemulum
(Jonesified as Tropilis aemula). But nowhere else can I fine listed
taxonomic
varieties of D. aemulum. The texts just say it's a variable species.

If needs be, I'll just list all species against D. aemulum in the index
cross-reference I'm compiling. But, if there are published taxonomic
listings
that match the above species I'd like to use them.

If anyone is more competent at internet searching than I, & can turn up
something, I'd be extremely grateful.
Dave Gillingham
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This link to an abstract of an article recently published may be of
interest??


http://www.springerlink.com/content/a6715773k58xw42l/


Malcolm


"Mal Mac" wrote in message
...
I don't think any of the new changes have been accepted by KEW.

Dockrillia sulphurea sounds like it should be Diurus sulphurea????

Is there any description of it ?????



Malcolm

"Dave Gillingham" wrote in message
...
I'm adding to my previous pair of:
Cadetia clausa
Dockrillia sulphurea

Jones has three species for which I can find nothing in the Australian
Plant
Name Index, & nothing in a web search. They a

Tropilis crassa
Tropilis eburna
Tropilis radiata

I'm prety sure these are simply regional variants on Dendrobium aemulum
(Jonesified as Tropilis aemula). But nowhere else can I fine listed
taxonomic
varieties of D. aemulum. The texts just say it's a variable species.

If needs be, I'll just list all species against D. aemulum in the index
cross-reference I'm compiling. But, if there are published taxonomic
listings
that match the above species I'd like to use them.

If anyone is more competent at internet searching than I, & can turn up
something, I'd be extremely grateful.
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Malcolm

Peter Adams presented his data at a recent meeting of Australian Native
Orchid Society (Victoria) focusing on the species complex Dendrobium
speciosum and made a cogent argument for not splitting into different
genera. What I found fascinating was that despite working in very similar
areas, Peter and David Jones had only met twice over the past 15 years. I
would have thought that these two researchers would be in regular contact to
discuss their findings in spite of their obvious different slant on the
subject.

Re Dockrillia sulphurea and Diuris sulphurea, the first is an epiphyte and
the second a terrestrial!

Cheers

John

"Mal Mac" wrote in message
...
This link to an abstract of an article recently published may be of
interest??


http://www.springerlink.com/content/a6715773k58xw42l/


Malcolm


"Mal Mac" wrote in message
...
I don't think any of the new changes have been accepted by KEW.

Dockrillia sulphurea sounds like it should be Diurus sulphurea????

Is there any description of it ?????



Malcolm

"Dave Gillingham" wrote in message
...
I'm adding to my previous pair of:
Cadetia clausa
Dockrillia sulphurea

Jones has three species for which I can find nothing in the Australian
Plant
Name Index, & nothing in a web search. They a

Tropilis crassa
Tropilis eburna
Tropilis radiata

I'm prety sure these are simply regional variants on Dendrobium aemulum
(Jonesified as Tropilis aemula). But nowhere else can I fine listed
taxonomic
varieties of D. aemulum. The texts just say it's a variable species.

If needs be, I'll just list all species against D. aemulum in the index
cross-reference I'm compiling. But, if there are published taxonomic
listings
that match the above species I'd like to use them.

If anyone is more competent at internet searching than I, & can turn up
something, I'd be extremely grateful.
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Hi John

I know that one is a epiphyte and
the other is a terrestrial!
But I have never heard of Dockrillia sulphurea and thought Jones may have
listed a desription and or a photo of it in his new book.

Have you seen it??


Malcolm

"John Varigos" wrote in message
m...
Malcolm

Peter Adams presented his data at a recent meeting of Australian Native
Orchid Society (Victoria) focusing on the species complex Dendrobium
speciosum and made a cogent argument for not splitting into different
genera. What I found fascinating was that despite working in very similar
areas, Peter and David Jones had only met twice over the past 15 years. I
would have thought that these two researchers would be in regular contact
to discuss their findings in spite of their obvious different slant on the
subject.

Re Dockrillia sulphurea and Diuris sulphurea, the first is an epiphyte and
the second a terrestrial!

Cheers

John

"Mal Mac" wrote in message
...
This link to an abstract of an article recently published may be of
interest??


http://www.springerlink.com/content/a6715773k58xw42l/


Malcolm


"Mal Mac" wrote in message
...
I don't think any of the new changes have been accepted by KEW.

Dockrillia sulphurea sounds like it should be Diurus sulphurea????

Is there any description of it ?????



Malcolm

"Dave Gillingham" wrote in message
...
I'm adding to my previous pair of:
Cadetia clausa
Dockrillia sulphurea

Jones has three species for which I can find nothing in the Australian
Plant
Name Index, & nothing in a web search. They a

Tropilis crassa
Tropilis eburna
Tropilis radiata

I'm prety sure these are simply regional variants on Dendrobium aemulum
(Jonesified as Tropilis aemula). But nowhere else can I fine listed
taxonomic
varieties of D. aemulum. The texts just say it's a variable species.

If needs be, I'll just list all species against D. aemulum in the index
cross-reference I'm compiling. But, if there are published taxonomic
listings
that match the above species I'd like to use them.

If anyone is more competent at internet searching than I, & can turn up
something, I'd be extremely grateful.
Dave Gillingham
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Hi Malcolm

I have Jones's new book and yes it does have both a photo and description of
the species Dockrillia sulphurea.

He describes it as recognised by its "Robust habit; stems straight,
pendulous; leaves terete; flowers crowded, pale sulphur yellowish with
central reddish streaks and spots, labellum midlode broad." Distribution is
from Cape York to Pascoe River at altitudes of 5 - 150 metres. It is locally
common growing on trees and boulders in rainforest, sheltered gullies and
humid areas of open forest. Flowers are strongly scented.

The photo shows a flower which is similar to Dockrillia teretifolia but the
flower head is extremely congested, unlike D. teretifolia where the flowers
are reasonably spaced.

I would scan the photo for you but my scanner is currently playing up.

Trust this helps.

Cheers

John

"Mal Mac" wrote in message
...
Hi John

I know that one is a epiphyte and
the other is a terrestrial!
But I have never heard of Dockrillia sulphurea and thought Jones may have
listed a desription and or a photo of it in his new book.

Have you seen it??


Malcolm

"John Varigos" wrote in message
m...
Malcolm

Peter Adams presented his data at a recent meeting of Australian Native
Orchid Society (Victoria) focusing on the species complex Dendrobium
speciosum and made a cogent argument for not splitting into different
genera. What I found fascinating was that despite working in very
similar areas, Peter and David Jones had only met twice over the past 15
years. I would have thought that these two researchers would be in
regular contact to discuss their findings in spite of their obvious
different slant on the subject.

Re Dockrillia sulphurea and Diuris sulphurea, the first is an epiphyte
and the second a terrestrial!

Cheers

John

"Mal Mac" wrote in message
...
This link to an abstract of an article recently published may be of
interest??


http://www.springerlink.com/content/a6715773k58xw42l/


Malcolm


"Mal Mac" wrote in message
...
I don't think any of the new changes have been accepted by KEW.

Dockrillia sulphurea sounds like it should be Diurus sulphurea????

Is there any description of it ?????



Malcolm

"Dave Gillingham" wrote in message
...
I'm adding to my previous pair of:
Cadetia clausa
Dockrillia sulphurea

Jones has three species for which I can find nothing in the Australian
Plant
Name Index, & nothing in a web search. They a

Tropilis crassa
Tropilis eburna
Tropilis radiata

I'm prety sure these are simply regional variants on Dendrobium
aemulum
(Jonesified as Tropilis aemula). But nowhere else can I fine listed
taxonomic
varieties of D. aemulum. The texts just say it's a variable species.

If needs be, I'll just list all species against D. aemulum in the
index
cross-reference I'm compiling. But, if there are published taxonomic
listings
that match the above species I'd like to use them.

If anyone is more competent at internet searching than I, & can turn
up
something, I'd be extremely grateful.
Dave Gillingham
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Thanks for that John.


Malcolm

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Hi Malcolm

I have Jones's new book and yes it does have both a photo and description
of the species Dockrillia sulphurea.

He describes it as recognised by its "Robust habit; stems straight,
pendulous; leaves terete; flowers crowded, pale sulphur yellowish with
central reddish streaks and spots, labellum midlode broad." Distribution
is from Cape York to Pascoe River at altitudes of 5 - 150 metres. It is
locally common growing on trees and boulders in rainforest, sheltered
gullies and humid areas of open forest. Flowers are strongly scented.

The photo shows a flower which is similar to Dockrillia teretifolia but
the flower head is extremely congested, unlike D. teretifolia where the
flowers are reasonably spaced.

I would scan the photo for you but my scanner is currently playing up.

Trust this helps.

Cheers

John

"Mal Mac" wrote in message
...
Hi John

I know that one is a epiphyte and
the other is a terrestrial!
But I have never heard of Dockrillia sulphurea and thought Jones may have
listed a desription and or a photo of it in his new book.

Have you seen it??


Malcolm

"John Varigos" wrote in message
m...
Malcolm

Peter Adams presented his data at a recent meeting of Australian Native
Orchid Society (Victoria) focusing on the species complex Dendrobium
speciosum and made a cogent argument for not splitting into different
genera. What I found fascinating was that despite working in very
similar areas, Peter and David Jones had only met twice over the past 15
years. I would have thought that these two researchers would be in
regular contact to discuss their findings in spite of their obvious
different slant on the subject.

Re Dockrillia sulphurea and Diuris sulphurea, the first is an epiphyte
and the second a terrestrial!

Cheers

John

"Mal Mac" wrote in message
...
This link to an abstract of an article recently published may be of
interest??


http://www.springerlink.com/content/a6715773k58xw42l/


Malcolm


"Mal Mac" wrote in message
...
I don't think any of the new changes have been accepted by KEW.

Dockrillia sulphurea sounds like it should be Diurus sulphurea????

Is there any description of it ?????



Malcolm

"Dave Gillingham" wrote in message
...
I'm adding to my previous pair of:
Cadetia clausa
Dockrillia sulphurea

Jones has three species for which I can find nothing in the
Australian Plant
Name Index, & nothing in a web search. They a

Tropilis crassa
Tropilis eburna
Tropilis radiata

I'm prety sure these are simply regional variants on Dendrobium
aemulum
(Jonesified as Tropilis aemula). But nowhere else can I fine listed
taxonomic
varieties of D. aemulum. The texts just say it's a variable species.

If needs be, I'll just list all species against D. aemulum in the
index
cross-reference I'm compiling. But, if there are published taxonomic
listings
that match the above species I'd like to use them.

If anyone is more competent at internet searching than I, & can turn
up
something, I'd be extremely grateful.
Dave Gillingham
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Mal, I'm sure you're right about Kew. I've deliberately avoided debate about
the book - it's pretty divisive between the proponents & the opponents. The
thing is, whether you like his taxonomies or not, it's certainly the latest and
most complete text on Australian orchids. That's why I'm trying to construct my
cross-reference, & running into trouble 'cause Jones gives *no* taxonomic
history information - just his new taxa, with a brief "see ..." in the index if
you look up the older versions. But the index is far from complete, hence my
queries here.

John has given you as much info as I could have r e Dockrillia sulphurea -
thanks, John. Problem is, just what plant was it that now has the synonym
Dockrillia sulphurea?

On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 22:53:48 +1100, "Mal Mac" wrote:

I don't think any of the new changes have been accepted by KEW.

Dockrillia sulphurea sounds like it should be Diurus sulphurea????

Is there any description of it ?????



Malcolm

"Dave Gillingham" wrote in message
.. .
I'm adding to my previous pair of:
Cadetia clausa
Dockrillia sulphurea

Jones has three species for which I can find nothing in the Australian
Plant
Name Index, & nothing in a web search. They a

Tropilis crassa
Tropilis eburna
Tropilis radiata

I'm prety sure these are simply regional variants on Dendrobium aemulum
(Jonesified as Tropilis aemula). But nowhere else can I fine listed
taxonomic
varieties of D. aemulum. The texts just say it's a variable species.

If needs be, I'll just list all species against D. aemulum in the index
cross-reference I'm compiling. But, if there are published taxonomic
listings
that match the above species I'd like to use them.

If anyone is more competent at internet searching than I, & can turn up
something, I'd be extremely grateful.
Dave Gillingham
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Thanks for that reference, Mal. That's the opinion I lean to, though my lack of
qualification is such that I'm sure the authors couldn't care less about my
opinion ;-)

On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 23:01:18 +1100, "Mal Mac" wrote:

This link to an abstract of an article recently published may be of
interest??


http://www.springerlink.com/content/a6715773k58xw42l/


Malcolm


"Mal Mac" wrote in message
u...
I don't think any of the new changes have been accepted by KEW.

Dockrillia sulphurea sounds like it should be Diurus sulphurea????

Is there any description of it ?????



Malcolm

"Dave Gillingham" wrote in message
...
I'm adding to my previous pair of:
Cadetia clausa
Dockrillia sulphurea

Jones has three species for which I can find nothing in the Australian
Plant
Name Index, & nothing in a web search. They a

Tropilis crassa
Tropilis eburna
Tropilis radiata

I'm prety sure these are simply regional variants on Dendrobium aemulum
(Jonesified as Tropilis aemula). But nowhere else can I fine listed
taxonomic
varieties of D. aemulum. The texts just say it's a variable species.

If needs be, I'll just list all species against D. aemulum in the index
cross-reference I'm compiling. But, if there are published taxonomic
listings
that match the above species I'd like to use them.

If anyone is more competent at internet searching than I, & can turn up
something, I'd be extremely grateful.
Dave Gillingham
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Hi Dave,

Maybe Dockrillia teretifolia var.sulphurea

Malcolm


"Dave Gillingham" wrote in message
...
Mal, I'm sure you're right about Kew. I've deliberately avoided debate
about
the book - it's pretty divisive between the proponents & the opponents.
The
thing is, whether you like his taxonomies or not, it's certainly the
latest and
most complete text on Australian orchids. That's why I'm trying to
construct my
cross-reference, & running into trouble 'cause Jones gives *no* taxonomic
history information - just his new taxa, with a brief "see ..." in the
index if
you look up the older versions. But the index is far from complete, hence
my
queries here.

John has given you as much info as I could have r e Dockrillia sulphurea -
thanks, John. Problem is, just what plant was it that now has the synonym
Dockrillia sulphurea?

On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 22:53:48 +1100, "Mal Mac"
wrote:

I don't think any of the new changes have been accepted by KEW.

Dockrillia sulphurea sounds like it should be Diurus sulphurea????

Is there any description of it ?????



Malcolm

"Dave Gillingham" wrote in message
. ..
I'm adding to my previous pair of:
Cadetia clausa
Dockrillia sulphurea

Jones has three species for which I can find nothing in the Australian
Plant
Name Index, & nothing in a web search. They a

Tropilis crassa
Tropilis eburna
Tropilis radiata

I'm prety sure these are simply regional variants on Dendrobium aemulum
(Jonesified as Tropilis aemula). But nowhere else can I fine listed
taxonomic
varieties of D. aemulum. The texts just say it's a variable species.

If needs be, I'll just list all species against D. aemulum in the index
cross-reference I'm compiling. But, if there are published taxonomic
listings
that match the above species I'd like to use them.

If anyone is more competent at internet searching than I, & can turn up
something, I'd be extremely grateful.
Dave Gillingham
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Mal, is thar an accepted taxon? Or was that tongue in cheek? If the former,
please point me at it.

On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 23:03:50 +1100, "Mal Mac" wrote:

Hi Dave,

Maybe Dockrillia teretifolia var.sulphurea

Malcolm


"Dave Gillingham" wrote in message
.. .
Mal, I'm sure you're right about Kew. I've deliberately avoided debate
about
the book - it's pretty divisive between the proponents & the opponents.
The
thing is, whether you like his taxonomies or not, it's certainly the
latest and
most complete text on Australian orchids. That's why I'm trying to
construct my
cross-reference, & running into trouble 'cause Jones gives *no* taxonomic
history information - just his new taxa, with a brief "see ..." in the
index if
you look up the older versions. But the index is far from complete, hence
my
queries here.

John has given you as much info as I could have r e Dockrillia sulphurea -
thanks, John. Problem is, just what plant was it that now has the synonym
Dockrillia sulphurea?

On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 22:53:48 +1100, "Mal Mac"
wrote:

I don't think any of the new changes have been accepted by KEW.

Dockrillia sulphurea sounds like it should be Diurus sulphurea????

Is there any description of it ?????



Malcolm

"Dave Gillingham" wrote in message
...
I'm adding to my previous pair of:
Cadetia clausa
Dockrillia sulphurea

Jones has three species for which I can find nothing in the Australian
Plant
Name Index, & nothing in a web search. They a

Tropilis crassa
Tropilis eburna
Tropilis radiata

I'm prety sure these are simply regional variants on Dendrobium aemulum
(Jonesified as Tropilis aemula). But nowhere else can I fine listed
taxonomic
varieties of D. aemulum. The texts just say it's a variable species.

If needs be, I'll just list all species against D. aemulum in the index
cross-reference I'm compiling. But, if there are published taxonomic
listings
that match the above species I'd like to use them.

If anyone is more competent at internet searching than I, & can turn up
something, I'd be extremely grateful.
Dave Gillingham
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Not that I know of !!

Just thought it was worth putting up to see what other people thought??


It seems crazy that some one would produce a book changing names and not
have a reference to the plants previous name????


Malcolm





"Dave Gillingham" wrote in message
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Mal, is thar an accepted taxon? Or was that tongue in cheek? If the
former,
please point me at it.

On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 23:03:50 +1100, "Mal Mac"
wrote:

Hi Dave,

Maybe Dockrillia teretifolia var.sulphurea

Malcolm


"Dave Gillingham" wrote in message
. ..
Mal, I'm sure you're right about Kew. I've deliberately avoided debate
about
the book - it's pretty divisive between the proponents & the opponents.
The
thing is, whether you like his taxonomies or not, it's certainly the
latest and
most complete text on Australian orchids. That's why I'm trying to
construct my
cross-reference, & running into trouble 'cause Jones gives *no*
taxonomic
history information - just his new taxa, with a brief "see ..." in the
index if
you look up the older versions. But the index is far from complete,
hence
my
queries here.

John has given you as much info as I could have r e Dockrillia
sulphurea -
thanks, John. Problem is, just what plant was it that now has the
synonym
Dockrillia sulphurea?

On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 22:53:48 +1100, "Mal Mac"

wrote:

I don't think any of the new changes have been accepted by KEW.

Dockrillia sulphurea sounds like it should be Diurus sulphurea????

Is there any description of it ?????



Malcolm

"Dave Gillingham" wrote in message
m...
I'm adding to my previous pair of:
Cadetia clausa
Dockrillia sulphurea

Jones has three species for which I can find nothing in the Australian
Plant
Name Index, & nothing in a web search. They a

Tropilis crassa
Tropilis eburna
Tropilis radiata

I'm prety sure these are simply regional variants on Dendrobium
aemulum
(Jonesified as Tropilis aemula). But nowhere else can I fine listed
taxonomic
varieties of D. aemulum. The texts just say it's a variable species.

If needs be, I'll just list all species against D. aemulum in the
index
cross-reference I'm compiling. But, if there are published taxonomic
listings
that match the above species I'd like to use them.

If anyone is more competent at internet searching than I, & can turn
up
something, I'd be extremely grateful.
Dave Gillingham
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On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 19:24:13 +1100, "Mal Mac" wrote:

Not that I know of !!

Just thought it was worth putting up to see what other people thought??


It seems crazy that some one would produce a book changing names and not
have a reference to the plants previous name????
How can I argue?



Malcolm





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.. .
Mal, is thar an accepted taxon? Or was that tongue in cheek? If the
former,
please point me at it.

On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 23:03:50 +1100, "Mal Mac"
wrote:

Hi Dave,

Maybe Dockrillia teretifolia var.sulphurea

Malcolm


"Dave Gillingham" wrote in message
...
Mal, I'm sure you're right about Kew. I've deliberately avoided debate
about
the book - it's pretty divisive between the proponents & the opponents.
The
thing is, whether you like his taxonomies or not, it's certainly the
latest and
most complete text on Australian orchids. That's why I'm trying to
construct my
cross-reference, & running into trouble 'cause Jones gives *no*
taxonomic
history information - just his new taxa, with a brief "see ..." in the
index if
you look up the older versions. But the index is far from complete,
hence
my
queries here.

John has given you as much info as I could have r e Dockrillia
sulphurea -
thanks, John. Problem is, just what plant was it that now has the
synonym
Dockrillia sulphurea?

On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 22:53:48 +1100, "Mal Mac"

wrote:

I don't think any of the new changes have been accepted by KEW.

Dockrillia sulphurea sounds like it should be Diurus sulphurea????

Is there any description of it ?????



Malcolm

"Dave Gillingham" wrote in message
om...
I'm adding to my previous pair of:
Cadetia clausa
Dockrillia sulphurea

Jones has three species for which I can find nothing in the Australian
Plant
Name Index, & nothing in a web search. They a

Tropilis crassa
Tropilis eburna
Tropilis radiata

I'm prety sure these are simply regional variants on Dendrobium
aemulum
(Jonesified as Tropilis aemula). But nowhere else can I fine listed
taxonomic
varieties of D. aemulum. The texts just say it's a variable species.

If needs be, I'll just list all species against D. aemulum in the
index
cross-reference I'm compiling. But, if there are published taxonomic
listings
that match the above species I'd like to use them.

If anyone is more competent at internet searching than I, & can turn
up
something, I'd be extremely grateful.
Dave Gillingham
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