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wendy7 03-04-2008 10:33 PM

ID needed please???
 
I previously posted a pic of this plant & it was named Angraecum sedifolium
& Paul Simon noticed the error.

I agree with him that it looks like a Jumellea. Should be easy to find.
There are so many flowers that look the

same.

I have attached a page (made in MS Word 2007 & change to '97) some info &
pics of plant & closeup of flower .

Any guesses or help would me much appreciated.

Cheers Wendy


Ray B 03-04-2008 11:13 PM

ID needed please???
 
Jumellea cyrtoceras, perhaps?

From Jay's site:

Found E Madagascar as a small sized epiphyte with an erect, cylindrical stem
carrying many, leathery, ligulate leaves that blooms on an axillary, short,
single flowered inflorescence enveloped basally by a few sheaths and obtuse
bract.

http://www.orchidspecies.com/jumcyrtoceras.htm

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info!


"Wendy7" wrote in message
...
I previously posted a pic of this plant & it was named Angraecum sedifolium
& Paul Simon noticed the error.

I agree with him that it looks like a Jumellea. Should be easy to find.
There are so many flowers that look the

same.

I have attached a page (made in MS Word 2007 & change to '97) some info &
pics of plant & closeup of flower .

Any guesses or help would me much appreciated.

Cheers Wendy




wendy7 04-04-2008 06:14 AM

ID needed please???
 
Thanks Ray, sounds & looks like the real McCoy.
Cheers Wendy

"Ray B" wrote in message
news:TDcJj.5861$yd2.3991@trndny04...
Jumellea cyrtoceras, perhaps?

From Jay's site:

Found E Madagascar as a small sized epiphyte with an erect, cylindrical
stem carrying many, leathery, ligulate leaves that blooms on an axillary,
short, single flowered inflorescence enveloped basally by a few sheaths
and obtuse bract.

http://www.orchidspecies.com/jumcyrtoceras.htm

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info!


"Wendy7" wrote in message
...
I previously posted a pic of this plant & it was named Angraecum
sedifolium
& Paul Simon noticed the error.

I agree with him that it looks like a Jumellea. Should be easy to find.
There are so many flowers that look the

same.

I have attached a page (made in MS Word 2007 & change to '97) some info &
pics of plant & closeup of flower .

Any guesses or help would me much appreciated.

Cheers Wendy





K Barrett 04-04-2008 04:48 PM

ID needed please???
 
No, the inflorescence isn't developed basally.

K
"Wendy7" wrote in message
...
Thanks Ray, sounds & looks like the real McCoy.
Cheers Wendy

"Ray B" wrote in message
news:TDcJj.5861$yd2.3991@trndny04...
Jumellea cyrtoceras, perhaps?

From Jay's site:

Found E Madagascar as a small sized epiphyte with an erect, cylindrical
stem carrying many, leathery, ligulate leaves that blooms on an axillary,
short, single flowered inflorescence enveloped basally by a few sheaths
and obtuse bract.

http://www.orchidspecies.com/jumcyrtoceras.htm

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info!


"Wendy7" wrote in message
...
I previously posted a pic of this plant & it was named Angraecum
sedifolium
& Paul Simon noticed the error.

I agree with him that it looks like a Jumellea. Should be easy to find.
There are so many flowers that look the

same.

I have attached a page (made in MS Word 2007 & change to '97) some info
&
pics of plant & closeup of flower .

Any guesses or help would me much appreciated.

Cheers Wendy







wendy7 05-04-2008 02:42 AM

ID needed please???
 
Thanks Kathy, that's the trouble I need to learn the terminology & botanical
words & remember them? When I read
the descriptions of the orchids on Jay Pfahls site, I think I'm reading
another language!
I have just printed out a list of 60 Jumelleas & there are quite a few with
the same looking flower.
Research, research, research. Wondering if there is someone I could send my
pics to that may know.
Maybe Hoosiers?
Cheers Wendy
"K Barrett" wrote in message
. ..
No, the inflorescence isn't developed basally.

K
"Wendy7" wrote in message
...
Thanks Ray, sounds & looks like the real McCoy.
Cheers Wendy

"Ray B" wrote in message
news:TDcJj.5861$yd2.3991@trndny04...
Jumellea cyrtoceras, perhaps?

From Jay's site:

Found E Madagascar as a small sized epiphyte with an erect, cylindrical
stem carrying many, leathery, ligulate leaves that blooms on an
axillary, short, single flowered inflorescence enveloped basally by a
few sheaths and obtuse bract.

http://www.orchidspecies.com/jumcyrtoceras.htm

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info!


"Wendy7" wrote in message
...
I previously posted a pic of this plant & it was named Angraecum
sedifolium
& Paul Simon noticed the error.

I agree with him that it looks like a Jumellea. Should be easy to
find.
There are so many flowers that look the

same.

I have attached a page (made in MS Word 2007 & change to '97) some info
&
pics of plant & closeup of flower .

Any guesses or help would me much appreciated.

Cheers Wendy








K Barrett 05-04-2008 05:18 PM

ID needed please???
 
Yeah I'd go with Hoosiers, they took what's-his-face's collection. I think
your plant is in "Group 6: plants with elongated stems; the spur 10 cm or
longer (18 species)" (quoting from Joyce Stewart's 'Angraecoid Orchids'
book) And that's about as far as I can take it. The last time I tried
taxonomy at home I got very confused and was very wrong. So I'll leave it
to the real taxonomists. My best guess is J comorensis based only on the
fact that you have one and its the commonest one, but what do I know? Ask
Hoosiers.

K Barrett

"Wendy7" wrote in message
...
Thanks Kathy, that's the trouble I need to learn the terminology &
botanical words & remember them? When I read
the descriptions of the orchids on Jay Pfahls site, I think I'm reading
another language!
I have just printed out a list of 60 Jumelleas & there are quite a few
with the same looking flower.
Research, research, research. Wondering if there is someone I could send
my pics to that may know.
Maybe Hoosiers?
Cheers Wendy
"K Barrett" wrote in message
. ..
No, the inflorescence isn't developed basally.

K
"Wendy7" wrote in message
...
Thanks Ray, sounds & looks like the real McCoy.
Cheers Wendy

"Ray B" wrote in message
news:TDcJj.5861$yd2.3991@trndny04...
Jumellea cyrtoceras, perhaps?

From Jay's site:

Found E Madagascar as a small sized epiphyte with an erect, cylindrical
stem carrying many, leathery, ligulate leaves that blooms on an
axillary, short, single flowered inflorescence enveloped basally by a
few sheaths and obtuse bract.

http://www.orchidspecies.com/jumcyrtoceras.htm

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info!


"Wendy7" wrote in message
...
I previously posted a pic of this plant & it was named Angraecum
sedifolium
& Paul Simon noticed the error.

I agree with him that it looks like a Jumellea. Should be easy to
find.
There are so many flowers that look the

same.

I have attached a page (made in MS Word 2007 & change to '97) some
info &
pics of plant & closeup of flower .

Any guesses or help would me much appreciated.

Cheers Wendy










wendy7 07-04-2008 01:55 AM

ID needed please???
 
Hi again Kathy,
I have a Jumellea comorensis & the plant is visibly different. The
flower is close but also not exact.
I now have a list of all the Jumellea's so researching that way.
The said plant was from a collection from Stellenbosch in S.Africa & of
course they went out of business,
so it may be a rare one.
Appreciate your help. Forward on the research.
Cheers Wendy

"K Barrett" wrote in message
...
Yeah I'd go with Hoosiers, they took what's-his-face's collection. I think
your plant is in "Group 6: plants with elongated stems; the spur 10 cm or
longer (18 species)" (quoting from Joyce Stewart's 'Angraecoid Orchids'
book) And that's about as far as I can take it. The last time I tried
taxonomy at home I got very confused and was very wrong. So I'll leave it
to the real taxonomists. My best guess is J comorensis based only on the
fact that you have one and its the commonest one, but what do I know? Ask
Hoosiers.

K Barrett

"Wendy7" wrote in message
...
Thanks Kathy, that's the trouble I need to learn the terminology &
botanical words & remember them? When I read
the descriptions of the orchids on Jay Pfahls site, I think I'm reading
another language!
I have just printed out a list of 60 Jumelleas & there are quite a few
with the same looking flower.
Research, research, research. Wondering if there is someone I could send
my pics to that may know.
Maybe Hoosiers?
Cheers Wendy
"K Barrett" wrote in message
. ..
No, the inflorescence isn't developed basally.

K
"Wendy7" wrote in message
...
Thanks Ray, sounds & looks like the real McCoy.
Cheers Wendy

"Ray B" wrote in message
news:TDcJj.5861$yd2.3991@trndny04...
Jumellea cyrtoceras, perhaps?

From Jay's site:

Found E Madagascar as a small sized epiphyte with an erect,
cylindrical stem carrying many, leathery, ligulate leaves that blooms
on an axillary, short, single flowered inflorescence enveloped basally
by a few sheaths and obtuse bract.

http://www.orchidspecies.com/jumcyrtoceras.htm



K Barrett 07-04-2008 03:09 AM

ID needed please???
 
Wendy7 wrote:
Hi again Kathy,
I have a Jumellea comorensis & the plant is visibly different. The
flower is close but also not exact.
I now have a list of all the Jumellea's so researching that way.
The said plant was from a collection from Stellenbosch in S.Africa & of
course they went out of business,
so it may be a rare one.
Appreciate your help. Forward on the research.
Cheers Wendy



Ok then, make sure you tell Hoosiers that its from Stellenbosch in S
Africa. It could very well be rare. Like I say I'm not that great at
taxonomy.

K

wendy7 08-04-2008 04:48 PM

ID needed please???Reply from Hoosiers Orchids
 
Received a reply from Hoosier daddy & he said it is Jumellea arborescens
What do you think?
I immediately replied, copy below.
Cheers Wendy (who is still researching)
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Hi Erich,
Thank you ever so much. I really appreciate your time & this info.
Below are two pics, the left being Jumellea arborescens, my lost tag plant that very
clearly has different looking leaves,the heart shape tips.
Also not sure if this is pertinant but the spur has a
horizontal 1/4" bend at the back of the flower.
Cheers Wendy





----- Original Message -----
From: hoosier orchid company
To: Wendy7
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 6:42 AM
Subject: An ID of a Jumellea Needed Please


Good Morning,

Your plant is Jumellea arborescens.

Erich






Hoosier Orchid Company
8440 West 82nd Street
Indianapolis, IN 46278-1062 USA
317 291-6269, 888 291-6269
Fax: 317 291-8949
www.hoosierorchid.com

"K Barrett" wrote in message ...
Wendy7 wrote:
Hi again Kathy,
I have a Jumellea comorensis & the plant is visibly different. The
flower is close but also not exact.
I now have a list of all the Jumellea's so researching that way.
The said plant was from a collection from Stellenbosch in S.Africa & of
course they went out of business,
so it may be a rare one.
Appreciate your help. Forward on the research.
Cheers Wendy



Ok then, make sure you tell Hoosiers that its from Stellenbosch in S
Africa. It could very well be rare. Like I say I'm not that great at
taxonomy.

K


K Barrett 08-04-2008 09:44 PM

ID needed please???Reply from Hoosiers Orchids
 
How nice you heard back from Erich Michael! The photo in Stewarts book shows a flower thats' almost identical to the one you originally posted as Angraecum sedifolium (now that we know what to look for - but really these all look the same to me, *G*...). The description for arborescences includes the 1/4" (or 7mm) bend at the back of the lip/spur area. I'm just happy that I got it in the right group, LOL!!

K

"Wendy7" wrote in message ...
Received a reply from Hoosier daddy & he said it is Jumellea arborescens
What do you think?
I immediately replied, copy below.
Cheers Wendy (who is still researching)
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Hi Erich,
Thank you ever so much. I really appreciate your time & this info.
Below are two pics, the left being Jumellea arborescens, my lost tag plant that very
clearly has different looking leaves,the heart shape tips.
Also not sure if this is pertinant but the spur has a
horizontal 1/4" bend at the back of the flower.
Cheers Wendy





----- Original Message -----
From: hoosier orchid company
To: Wendy7
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 6:42 AM
Subject: An ID of a Jumellea Needed Please


Good Morning,

Your plant is Jumellea arborescens.

Erich






Hoosier Orchid Company
8440 West 82nd Street
Indianapolis, IN 46278-1062 USA
317 291-6269, 888 291-6269
Fax: 317 291-8949
www.hoosierorchid.com

"K Barrett" wrote in message ...
Wendy7 wrote:
Hi again Kathy,
I have a Jumellea comorensis & the plant is visibly different. The
flower is close but also not exact.
I now have a list of all the Jumellea's so researching that way.
The said plant was from a collection from Stellenbosch in S.Africa & of
course they went out of business,
so it may be a rare one.
Appreciate your help. Forward on the research.
Cheers Wendy



Ok then, make sure you tell Hoosiers that its from Stellenbosch in S
Africa. It could very well be rare. Like I say I'm not that great at
taxonomy.

K



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