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PhalGuy 04-08-2005 01:30 AM

Solution anyone!
 
Hello everyone!

We are having an exceptional summer here in montreal but we also having heat
wave.
I`m growing under fluorescent and sometimes, the temperature is over 35 C. I
have a fan in front of the phal but it only pushes hot air. I was wondering
what would be the best solution to cool down my plants ! I was thinking
closing the fluorescent light ! Is a couple of days without bright light
would be ok ? Is this a good idea!

I already lost some plants because of a nasty heat wave in july and I want
to stop this!

Any idea?



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Ray 04-08-2005 02:26 AM

35°C is certainly not too high for phals, and the heat generated by a
fluorescent fixture is probably not a significant factor. Air movement -
even warm air movement - is a plus, as is early-in-the-day misting.

I have heard of folks putting a tray of ice in front of the fan, but I
cannot estimate how effective that might be.
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"PhalGuy" wrote in message
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Hello everyone!

We are having an exceptional summer here in montreal but we also having
heat
wave.
I`m growing under fluorescent and sometimes, the temperature is over 35 C.
I
have a fan in front of the phal but it only pushes hot air. I was
wondering
what would be the best solution to cool down my plants ! I was thinking
closing the fluorescent light ! Is a couple of days without bright light
would be ok ? Is this a good idea!

I already lost some plants because of a nasty heat wave in july and I want
to stop this!

Any idea?



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PhalGuy 04-08-2005 02:42 AM

thanks Ray !


"Ray" wrote in message
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| 35°C is certainly not too high for phals, and the heat generated by a
| fluorescent fixture is probably not a significant factor. Air movement -
| even warm air movement - is a plus, as is early-in-the-day misting.
|
| I have heard of folks putting a tray of ice in front of the fan, but I
| cannot estimate how effective that might be.
| --
|
| Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
| Plants, Supplies, Artwork, Books and Lots of Free Info!
|
|
| "PhalGuy" wrote in message
| news:1123115420.b8bbe6c68ec0a25fadd5022f5b23d7d6@t eranews...
| Hello everyone!
|
| We are having an exceptional summer here in montreal but we also having
| heat
| wave.
| I`m growing under fluorescent and sometimes, the temperature is over 35
C.
| I
| have a fan in front of the phal but it only pushes hot air. I was
| wondering
| what would be the best solution to cool down my plants ! I was thinking
| closing the fluorescent light ! Is a couple of days without bright light
| would be ok ? Is this a good idea!
|
| I already lost some plants because of a nasty heat wave in july and I
want
| to stop this!
|
| Any idea?
|
|
|
| --
| Claude
|
| www.picturetrail.com/phalguy
|
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[email protected] 04-08-2005 11:44 AM

You can use shade cloth(made of HDPE=EF=BC=89=E3=80=82
PhalGuy =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A

Hello everyone!

We are having an exceptional summer here in montreal but we also having h=

eat
wave.
I`m growing under fluorescent and sometimes, the temperature is over 35 C=

.. I
have a fan in front of the phal but it only pushes hot air. I was wonderi=

ng
what would be the best solution to cool down my plants ! I was thinking
closing the fluorescent light ! Is a couple of days without bright light
would be ok ? Is this a good idea!

I already lost some plants because of a nasty heat wave in july and I want
to stop this!

Any idea?



--
Claude
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[email protected] 04-08-2005 11:45 AM

You can use shade cloth(made of HDPE=EF=BC=89=E3=80=82
PhalGuy =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A

Hello everyone!

We are having an exceptional summer here in montreal but we also having h=

eat
wave.
I`m growing under fluorescent and sometimes, the temperature is over 35 C=

.. I
have a fan in front of the phal but it only pushes hot air. I was wonderi=

ng
what would be the best solution to cool down my plants ! I was thinking
closing the fluorescent light ! Is a couple of days without bright light
would be ok ? Is this a good idea!

I already lost some plants because of a nasty heat wave in july and I want
to stop this!

Any idea?



--
Claude
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Niek Hanckmann 04-08-2005 01:00 PM

Hello PhalGuy,

I asume that you are not growing your Phals in a greenhouse, in that
case you wouldnt need tubelighting during such an exceptional summer.
When you are growing indoors and not at the windows-sill, I wouldn't cut
on the light if I were you. Since temperatures are high, the plant will
expect more intense light in stead of less.
The best solution to save your plants is to realize a high air-humidity.
This means regular misting (up to several times a day) and keeping the
trays, tabel or the floor wet. Keep your fan on and the doors and
windows closed, that also helps to keep humidity high.

Succes, keep cool!

Grtz. Niek

PhalGuy schreef:
Hello everyone!

We are having an exceptional summer here in montreal but we also having heat
wave.
I`m growing under fluorescent and sometimes, the temperature is over 35 C. I
have a fan in front of the phal but it only pushes hot air. I was wondering
what would be the best solution to cool down my plants ! I was thinking
closing the fluorescent light ! Is a couple of days without bright light
would be ok ? Is this a good idea!

I already lost some plants because of a nasty heat wave in july and I want
to stop this!

Any idea?




dusty 04-08-2005 02:48 PM

"PhalGuy" wrote in
news:1123115420.b8bbe6c68ec0a25fadd5022f5b23d7d6@t eranews:

Hello everyone!

We are having an exceptional summer here in montreal but we also
having heat wave.
I`m growing under fluorescent and sometimes, the temperature is over
35 C. I have a fan in front of the phal but it only pushes hot air. I
was wondering what would be the best solution to cool down my plants !
I was thinking closing the fluorescent light ! Is a couple of days
without bright light would be ok ? Is this a good idea!

I already lost some plants because of a nasty heat wave in july and I
want to stop this!

Any idea?




I have a few phals in my greenhouse and last week it was 40 C to 42 C in
there and it hasn't bothered them but I do have fans running any time the
temp goes above 23 C I do water more often but that doesn't help to cool
things down as our cold water is now running 24 to 26 C

can't wait for the promised cool down.
Grow well and bloom magnificently
dusty

? 04-08-2005 04:15 PM

On Wed, 3 Aug 2005 20:30:15 -0400 in 1123115420.b8bbe6c68ec0a25fadd5022f5b23d7d6@teran ews PhalGuy wrote:
Hello everyone!

We are having an exceptional summer here in montreal but we also having heat
wave.


Since you're that far north, you probably already have a humidifier
or few for comfort during the winter. Try sticking a cool mist or
ultrasonic one between the fan and the phals.
You might get a slight swamp cooler effect, plus I think it would
be more effective for humidity than the frequent misting.

--
Chris Dukes
Suspicion breeds confidence -- Brazil

PhalGuy 04-08-2005 04:41 PM

Thanks everyone!

Claude

"?" wrote in message
rg...
| On Wed, 3 Aug 2005 20:30:15 -0400 in
1123115420.b8bbe6c68ec0a25fadd5022f5b23d7d6@teran ews PhalGuy
wrote:
| Hello everyone!
|
| We are having an exceptional summer here in montreal but we also having
heat
| wave.
|
| Since you're that far north, you probably already have a humidifier
| or few for comfort during the winter. Try sticking a cool mist or
| ultrasonic one between the fan and the phals.
| You might get a slight swamp cooler effect, plus I think it would
| be more effective for humidity than the frequent misting.
|
| --
| Chris Dukes
| Suspicion breeds confidence -- Brazil



keith ;-\) 09-08-2005 03:41 PM

Hi Claude, Someone in my orchid society(news letter article) recommended a
Shallow water mini fogger for increasing humidity.They have these at maplin
if you know of this company? I have included a link so you get a idea what
they are.
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?...35215&doy=9m8D
They also use them in terrariums for reptiles
http://www.wormman.com/pd_mini_fogger.cfm
Higher the temperature the higher humidity you will need.
Thanks Keith



"PhalGuy" wrote in message
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Thanks everyone!

Claude

"?" wrote in message
rg...
| On Wed, 3 Aug 2005 20:30:15 -0400 in
1123115420.b8bbe6c68ec0a25fadd5022f5b23d7d6@teran ews PhalGuy
wrote:
| Hello everyone!
|
| We are having an exceptional summer here in montreal but we also

having
heat
| wave.
|
| Since you're that far north, you probably already have a humidifier
| or few for comfort during the winter. Try sticking a cool mist or
| ultrasonic one between the fan and the phals.
| You might get a slight swamp cooler effect, plus I think it would
| be more effective for humidity than the frequent misting.
|
| --
| Chris Dukes
| Suspicion breeds confidence -- Brazil





? 10-08-2005 01:23 AM

On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 14:41:29 GMT in keith ;-) wrote:
Hi Claude, Someone in my orchid society(news letter article) recommended a
Shallow water mini fogger for increasing humidity.They have these at maplin
if you know of this company? I have included a link so you get a idea what
they are.


Uggg, trim thy quotes...

For those of you in the US
http://www.mainlandmart.com/fogger1.html

Those with side businesses, the wholesale page is
http://www.mainlandmart.com/foggerwholesales.html

Since there are mechanically inclined types around here,
I'd be curious as to what could be designed around the
10 mister unit for greenhouse use.
But I suspect that a traditional disk humidfier would be
cheaper if less spectacular :-).


--
Chris Dukes
Suspicion breeds confidence -- Brazil


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