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I purchased a slc circle of life / slc bright angel at a show last Fall. It had three bright red flowers on a compact plant. After the blooms it grew two keikis and I set it aside to grow not expecting any more flowers until next fall. Well one of the new growing keiki's just produced another flower. Is this normal or is the plant just confused? Bob |
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On 3 Apr 2007 15:34:09 GMT in Robert Lorenzini wrote:
I purchased a slc circle of life / slc bright angel at a show last Fall. It had three bright red flowers on a compact plant. After the blooms it grew two keikis and I set it aside to grow not expecting any more flowers until next fall. Well one of the new growing keiki's just produced another flower. Is this normal or is the plant just confused? Keiki, or pseudobulb? (Not that it's very hard to divide a plant that produces pseudo bulbs). As for behavior... Wouldn't know. My wife doesn't kill Catts, but they don't bloom for her either. -- Chris Dukes elfick willg: you can't use dell to beat people, it wouldn't stand up to the strain... much like attacking a tank with a wiffle bat |
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Bob, can you post a photo of this somewhere?
Diana "Robert Lorenzini" wrote in message ... On 03 Apr 2007 16:51:16 GMT, wrote: On 3 Apr 2007 Robert Lorenzini wrote: I purchased a slc circle of life / slc bright angel at a show last Fall. It had three bright red flowers on a compact plant. After the blooms it grew two keikis and I set it aside to grow not expecting any more flowers until next fall. Well one of the new growing keiki's just produced another flower. Is this normal or is the plant just confused? Keiki, or pseudobulb? Keiki, no pseudobulb. This is my first blooming cat, I had no idea they would bloom without a pseudobulb. Bob |
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On Tue, 3 Apr 2007 15:14:55 -0400, Diana Kulaga wrote:
Bob, can you post a photo of this somewhere? No, but I could email you a pic later. Bob |
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Okay. Remove the cat to send it.
Diana "Robert Lorenzini" wrote in message ... On Tue, 3 Apr 2007 15:14:55 -0400, Diana Kulaga wrote: Bob, can you post a photo of this somewhere? No, but I could email you a pic later. Bob |
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Robert Lorenzini wrote:
On 03 Apr 2007 16:51:16 GMT, wrote: On 3 Apr 2007 Robert Lorenzini wrote: I purchased a slc circle of life / slc bright angel at a show last Fall. It had three bright red flowers on a compact plant. After the blooms it grew two keikis and I set it aside to grow not expecting any more flowers until next fall. Well one of the new growing keiki's just produced another flower. Is this normal or is the plant just confused? Keiki, or pseudobulb? Keiki, no pseudobulb. This is my first blooming cat, I had no idea they would bloom without a pseudobulb. Bob Well Bob, I'm confused. A keiki is a vegetative growth where you would expect flowers. For a Cattleya hybrid (including your slc) to do this, it would have to grow something other than flowers from the top of an existing pseudobulb. On the other hand, a new growth from the base of an existing pseudobulb isn't a keiki because that is the normal place for a new growth to start. I have a few small Catt hybrids that push up buds and flowers from a new growth before the new leaf has even opened flat and before the new pseudobulb becomes obvious. Now, let me know how your plant fits (or doesn't fit) into the above comments. Of course, if you e-mail a picture to Diana and have her post it on the picture newsgroup where most of us can see it, that would be worth at least a thousand words. ;-) Steve |
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On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 09:42:51 -0400, Steve wrote:
On the other hand, a new growth from the base of an existing pseudobulb isn't a keiki because that is the normal place for a new growth to start. I have a few small Catt hybrids that push up buds and flowers from a new growth before the new leaf has even opened flat and before the new pseudobulb becomes obvious. Spot on Steve, that's exactly what Diana said after reviewing the pic. Bob |
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Steve, I have to run right now, but will post it in a couple of hours. Need
to resize it. Diana "Steve" wrote in message ... Robert Lorenzini wrote: On 03 Apr 2007 16:51:16 GMT, wrote: On 3 Apr 2007 Robert Lorenzini wrote: I purchased a slc circle of life / slc bright angel at a show last Fall. It had three bright red flowers on a compact plant. After the blooms it grew two keikis and I set it aside to grow not expecting any more flowers until next fall. Well one of the new growing keiki's just produced another flower. Is this normal or is the plant just confused? Keiki, or pseudobulb? Keiki, no pseudobulb. This is my first blooming cat, I had no idea they would bloom without a pseudobulb. Bob Well Bob, I'm confused. A keiki is a vegetative growth where you would expect flowers. For a Cattleya hybrid (including your slc) to do this, it would have to grow something other than flowers from the top of an existing pseudobulb. On the other hand, a new growth from the base of an existing pseudobulb isn't a keiki because that is the normal place for a new growth to start. I have a few small Catt hybrids that push up buds and flowers from a new growth before the new leaf has even opened flat and before the new pseudobulb becomes obvious. Now, let me know how your plant fits (or doesn't fit) into the above comments. Of course, if you e-mail a picture to Diana and have her post it on the picture newsgroup where most of us can see it, that would be worth at least a thousand words. ;-) Steve |
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I just posted Bob's photo at abpo. Since he doesn't get that forum, I
suggest that discussion take place in this thread. Diana "Diana Kulaga" wrote in message .. . Steve, I have to run right now, but will post it in a couple of hours. Need to resize it. Diana "Steve" wrote in message ... Robert Lorenzini wrote: On 03 Apr 2007 16:51:16 GMT, wrote: On 3 Apr 2007 Robert Lorenzini wrote: I purchased a slc circle of life / slc bright angel at a show last Fall. It had three bright red flowers on a compact plant. After the blooms it grew two keikis and I set it aside to grow not expecting any more flowers until next fall. Well one of the new growing keiki's just produced another flower. Is this normal or is the plant just confused? Keiki, or pseudobulb? Keiki, no pseudobulb. This is my first blooming cat, I had no idea they would bloom without a pseudobulb. Bob Well Bob, I'm confused. A keiki is a vegetative growth where you would expect flowers. For a Cattleya hybrid (including your slc) to do this, it would have to grow something other than flowers from the top of an existing pseudobulb. On the other hand, a new growth from the base of an existing pseudobulb isn't a keiki because that is the normal place for a new growth to start. I have a few small Catt hybrids that push up buds and flowers from a new growth before the new leaf has even opened flat and before the new pseudobulb becomes obvious. Now, let me know how your plant fits (or doesn't fit) into the above comments. Of course, if you e-mail a picture to Diana and have her post it on the picture newsgroup where most of us can see it, that would be worth at least a thousand words. ;-) Steve |
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On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 17:58:40 -0400, Diana Kulaga wrote:
I just posted Bob's photo at abpo. Since he doesn't get that forum, I suggest that discussion take place in this thread. Diana could this be called a basil keiki? Bob |
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Bob, it's not a keiki at all. It's simply a new, immature pseudobulb. You've
got two of them. A basal keiki might be found, for example, on a Phalaenopsis, which does not grow on a rhizome. The plant is doing just what it ought to do. Be happy! Diana "Robert Lorenzini" wrote in message ... On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 17:58:40 -0400, Diana Kulaga wrote: I just posted Bob's photo at abpo. Since he doesn't get that forum, I suggest that discussion take place in this thread. Diana could this be called a basil keiki? Bob |
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On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 18:13:41 -0400, Diana Kulaga wrote:
Bob, it's not a keiki at all. It's simply a new, immature pseudobulb. You've got two of them. A basal keiki might be found, for example, on a Phalaenopsis, which does not grow on a rhizome. The plant is doing just what it ought to do. Be happy! Ok, we have been calling every new growth a keiki and now I have to go look up rhizome. :-( I'm looking forward to a small compot of Neofinetia falcata (I hope I misspelled that correctly) that I just bought on ebay. I got a friend hooked and he asked me to bid on .95 plant from the same vendor. Well surpise he got it and just 2.50 additional shipping. (Zygopetalum mackayi) Bob |
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Well, then the conversation has been good. Rhizome is the base of the Catts,
Dends, etc, from which the new growths come. Go to Ray's site and look up culture. There are a few different types of growth habits for orchids. Monopodal, sympodial. It's very interesting, and there are different ways of repotting, depending upon the growth habit of the plant. By the way, remember that Zygo. mackayi is a fairly cool grower. I learned this years ago when I was even more stupid than I am now, LOL! Keep it in the air conditioned cabin with lots of light. I won't comment on Neo. falcata, since I killed the only one I had. I fully intend to get another, and keep it happy! Diana "Robert Lorenzini" wrote in message ... On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 18:13:41 -0400, Diana Kulaga wrote: Bob, it's not a keiki at all. It's simply a new, immature pseudobulb. You've got two of them. A basal keiki might be found, for example, on a Phalaenopsis, which does not grow on a rhizome. The plant is doing just what it ought to do. Be happy! Ok, we have been calling every new growth a keiki and now I have to go look up rhizome. :-( I'm looking forward to a small compot of Neofinetia falcata (I hope I misspelled that correctly) that I just bought on ebay. I got a friend hooked and he asked me to bid on .95 plant from the same vendor. Well surpise he got it and just 2.50 additional shipping. (Zygopetalum mackayi) Bob |
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On 4 Apr 2007 22:10:27 GMT in Robert Lorenzini wrote:
On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 17:58:40 -0400, Diana Kulaga wrote: I just posted Bob's photo at abpo. Since he doesn't get that forum, I suggest that discussion take place in this thread. Diana could this be called a basil keiki? Wrong plant family. Basil keikis are more useful for pesto... -- Chris Dukes elfick willg: you can't use dell to beat people, it wouldn't stand up to the strain... much like attacking a tank with a wiffle bat |
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Bob, go buy the Ortho book 'All About Growing Orchids'. Should cost about
$12 at any bookstore. I've even seen it at Home Depot. Its also on Amazon.com. You can probably get a used copy on Amazon for a song. It's a great basic education for a person starting in the hobby, probably will take about an hour or two to flip through and it'll be a handy reference as you want more information as your interest in this hobby grows. It answers the questions you don't yet know you need to ask. *G* K Barrett "Robert Lorenzini" wrote in message ... On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 18:13:41 -0400, Diana Kulaga wrote: Bob, it's not a keiki at all. It's simply a new, immature pseudobulb. You've got two of them. A basal keiki might be found, for example, on a Phalaenopsis, which does not grow on a rhizome. The plant is doing just what it ought to do. Be happy! Ok, we have been calling every new growth a keiki and now I have to go look up rhizome. :-( I'm looking forward to a small compot of Neofinetia falcata (I hope I misspelled that correctly) that I just bought on ebay. I got a friend hooked and he asked me to bid on .95 plant from the same vendor. Well surpise he got it and just 2.50 additional shipping. (Zygopetalum mackayi) Bob |
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On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 20:34:45 -0400, Diana Kulaga wrote:
By the way, remember that Zygo. mackayi is a fairly cool grower. I learned this years ago when I was even more stupid than I am now, LOL! Keep it in the air conditioned cabin with lots of light. I won't comment on Neo. falcata, since I killed the only one I had. I fully intend to get another, and keep it happy! I have one NF on a mount that is doing really well with new growths and roots. I'm trying to specialize in fragrant minitures. My friend also lives on the coast so the Zygo may work for him. I also have a Sedirea japonica that is flowering. Bob |
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On 05 Apr 2007 12:52:26 GMT, wrote:
Wrong plant family. Basil keikis are more useful for pesto... :-) |
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On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 08:01:44 -0700, K Barrett wrote:
Bob, go buy the Ortho book 'All About Growing Orchids'. Should cost about $12 at any bookstore. I've even seen it at Home Depot. Its also on I will look for it. I have read about a dozen books from the liberry but learning the big word orchid language is a challenge for my elderly brain. Bob |
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"Robert Lorenzini" wrote in message
... On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 08:01:44 -0700, K Barrett wrote: Bob, go buy the Ortho book 'All About Growing Orchids'. Should cost about $12 at any bookstore. I've even seen it at Home Depot. Its also on I will look for it. I have read about a dozen books from the liberry but learning the big word orchid language is a challenge for my elderly brain. Bob You an me both. K |
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