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Paph kolopakingii var alba?
Does anyone have any info on this creature? If the internet is to be
believed, it does not exist...no mention of one anyway. I am not asking about topperi, the 'green form' of kolopakingii. I think I have true alba form blooming in my greenhouse and I find it hard to believe that I have the only one ever seen. |
Paph kolopakingii var alba?
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Paph kolopakingii var alba?
And also to abpo!
Diana "K Barrett" wrote in message . .. Best to send a picture to Koopowitz: K Barrett wrote in message ups.com... Does anyone have any info on this creature? If the internet is to be believed, it does not exist...no mention of one anyway. I am not asking about topperi, the 'green form' of kolopakingii. I think I have true alba form blooming in my greenhouse and I find it hard to believe that I have the only one ever seen. |
Paph kolopakingii var alba?
On May 12, 6:18 pm, "K Barrett" wrote:
Best to send a picture to Koopowitz: K Barrett wrote in message ups.com... Does anyone have any info on this creature? If the internet is to be believed, it does not exist...no mention of one anyway. I am not asking about topperi, the 'green form' of kolopakingii. I think I have true alba form blooming in my greenhouse and I find it hard to believe that I have the only one ever seen.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I found an email reply in my email this morning. Apparently an alba was awarded a CHM in Atlanta in April. You AOS judges should be able to confirm this. I also hear that Koopowitz is writing it up for the next issue of Orchid Digest. The scuttlebut is that the man who got the CHM had several of them bloom out of a batch of topperi seedlings and may have already dispersed a few to some Paph breeders. I don't know if this is sensative info or not; conscidering who sent it to me, I don't know why they didn't post the answer here themselves. |
Paph kolopakingii var alba?
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oups.com... On May 12, 6:18 pm, "K Barrett" wrote: Best to send a picture to Koopowitz: K Barrett wrote in message ups.com... Does anyone have any info on this creature? If the internet is to be believed, it does not exist...no mention of one anyway. I am not asking about topperi, the 'green form' of kolopakingii. I think I have true alba form blooming in my greenhouse and I find it hard to believe that I have the only one ever seen.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I found an email reply in my email this morning. Apparently an alba was awarded a CHM in Atlanta in April. You AOS judges should be able to confirm this. I also hear that Koopowitz is writing it up for the next issue of Orchid Digest. The scuttlebut is that the man who got the CHM had several of them bloom out of a batch of topperi seedlings and may have already dispersed a few to some Paph breeders. I don't know if this is sensative info or not; conscidering who sent it to me, I don't know why they didn't post the answer here themselves. If there was one awarded in April in Atlanta its picture didn't get into the Atlanta Orchid Society's newsletter. I don't see that the Atlanta Center has its own web page, either. Pity. K Barrett |
Paph kolopakingii var alba?
On May 12, 5:01 pm, wrote:
Does anyone have any info on this creature? If the internet is to be believed, it does not exist...no mention of one anyway. I am not asking about topperi, the 'green form' of kolopakingii. I think I have true alba form blooming in my greenhouse and I find it hard to believe that I have the only one ever seen. http://www.orchidexchange.com/Photos/web1909.htm It is not the first, apparently. Just the second ever seen. Here are pictures of my plant. I am calling it; Paph. kolopakingii var. alba 'Millie's Ghost' for the time being. For safety's sake, the plant is not in my greenhouse nor on my property, but is being kept in an undisclosed location. Honestly. I do not wish to step on anyone's toes here. But this is my plant and I want to show it off. |
Paph kolopakingii var alba?
On May 12, 6:18 pm, "K Barrett" wrote:
Best to send a picture to Koopowitz: K Barrett wrote in message ups.com... Does anyone have any info on this creature? If the internet is to be believed, it does not exist...no mention of one anyway. I am not asking about topperi, the 'green form' of kolopakingii. I think I have true alba form blooming in my greenhouse and I find it hard to believe that I have the only one ever seen.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I sold the alba last night. I am shipping it today. It is very pretty but I am not worthy of it. And having it around would worry me too much. The man who bought it lives in a penthouse in New York City and is known by Paph breeders as a primary collector of alba Paphs and awarded cvultivars. He is having me ship it directly to a famous Paph breeder who also called me last night to make an offer which I ultimately turned down; in addtion to $, he promised me flasks of the offspring, which may have been the better deal in the long run, but... Actually, all offers were exceedling generous and even bordered on insanity, from my point of view. Ultimately I went with the most insane. However, in the end, it will be going into the hands of two people who can probably do much with it with regard to future alba breeding lines in the coryopedilum paph group and everybody seems happy. Actually I learned last night that three other albas have shown show up recently. Two were sold for about the same as I sold mine, if my information is correct. The fourth is being kept in an undisclosed location with a seed capsule on it; this is the one mentioned as having received the CHM in Atlanta. It sounds like they are all coming from the same wholesaler in Hawaii AND one Paph breeder believes he even knows which parent plant is throwing these albas. It was an odd experience to talk with so many people over the last few days who were able to tell me where my plant came from. They all seemed to know already and had their eyes and ears open for more.... Orchid people are crazy. Somebody should keep an eye on them. |
Paph kolopakingii var alba?
It sounds like they are all coming from the same wholesaler in Hawaii AND one Paph breeder believes he even knows which parent plant is throwing these albas. It was an odd experience to talk with so many people over the last few days who were able to tell me where my plant came from. They all seemed to know already and had their eyes and ears open for more.... Orchid people are crazy. Somebody should keep an eye on them. The walls have eyes... I think you did the right thing though. I know exactly who you are selling (and sending) the plant to, and you picked a good home. It is kind of scary that I know who you are talking about. I guess you are right. Hopefully nobody is watching me... *grin* Rob -- Rob's Rules: http://littlefrogfarm.com 1) There is always room for one more orchid 2) There is always room for two more orchids 2a) See rule 1 3) When one has insufficient credit to obtain more orchids, obtain more credit |
Paph kolopakingii var alba?
Things can definitely get a little weird when select paphs are involved...
-danny |
Paph kolopakingii var alba?
On May 15, 12:21 pm, "danny" wrote:
Things can definitely get a little weird when select paphs are involved... -danny I can imagine this little episode produced a nervous jump in the stomachs of many people for various reasons. I do hope everything settles out in such a way that everybody gets what they were hoping to get before I got things a bit tangled up here in this very public unmoderated forum where any fool can put his foot in almost anybody's mouth and not even know he's doing it. :-) |
Paph kolopakingii var alba?
I have never seen the appeal of albas...
-- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! wrote in message ups.com... On May 15, 12:21 pm, "danny" wrote: Things can definitely get a little weird when select paphs are involved... -danny I can imagine this little episode produced a nervous jump in the stomachs of many people for various reasons. I do hope everything settles out in such a way that everybody gets what they were hoping to get before I got things a bit tangled up here in this very public unmoderated forum where any fool can put his foot in almost anybody's mouth and not even know he's doing it. :-) |
Paph kolopakingii var alba?
On May 15, 7:50 pm, "Ray B" wrote:
I have never seen the appeal of albas... -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids -www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! chuckle. When the lightening of fortune strikes your greenhouse and you discover the elusive but personally unappealing Paph lowii var. album out there in the afterglow, I can send you a lengthy list of people who wish to be contacted first before anyone else if you want to rid yourself of it quickly. Handled correctly, that sale might pay for a few semesters of college. |
Paph kolopakingii var alba?
Al has thusly spoke: "Handled correctly, that sale might pay for a few
semesters of college." ....which, of course, I could REALLY use. I suspect, however, that if such an ephemeral creature ever appears, I probably won't think much of its worth and will get rid of it in a manner that will make it the recipient's good fortune, not mine. -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! wrote in message ups.com... On May 15, 7:50 pm, "Ray B" wrote: I have never seen the appeal of albas... -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids -www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! chuckle. When the lightening of fortune strikes your greenhouse and you discover the elusive but personally unappealing Paph lowii var. album out there in the afterglow, I can send you a lengthy list of people who wish to be contacted first before anyone else if you want to rid yourself of it quickly. Handled correctly, that sale might pay for a few semesters of college. |
Paph kolopakingii var alba?
"Ray B" wrote in message news:ISs2i.7259$CQ4.6899@trndny06... I suspect, however, that if such an ephemeral creature ever appears, I probably won't think much of its worth and will get rid of it in a manner that will make it the recipient's good fortune, not mine. Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! Ditto. K Barrett |
Paph kolopakingii var alba?
On May 15, 9:11 pm, "Ray B" wrote:
Al has thusly spoke: "Handled correctly, that sale might pay for a few semesters of college." ...which, of course, I could REALLY use. I suspect, however, that if such an ephemeral creature ever appears, I probably won't think much of its worth and will get rid of it in a manner that will make it the recipient's good fortune, not mine. Well I did spoke thusly and I am going to spoke thusly again ;-) I had to think of its worth. I have no other means of support. I think of the worth of all of the plants I sell. I think the people who pay for those are getting good fortune for the price too. And I think the people who chose to keep their money in their pocket know where their fortune lies or lays, whatever... I also think of the expenses of keeping them around. I like growing orchids. Selling them is a necessity. They don't have to be rare. In fact considering how this alba made me feel just having it around I probably would rather just grow and sell the other kind. There are people who think I should have held out for 4 or 5 times what I sold it for and I can not even imagine that. There may even be people who would pay that much, some of them didn't get to me fast enough, apparenly. I feel I got fair value and good fortune for my plant and I think those who bought it feel the same way. I think those who would pay 4 to 5 times more will also pay for the names of the people I sold it to, if they can't figure it out. But do remember i have that list now, and there is no reason you shouldn't think of its worth that I can think of if you find such a plant in a wholesale coffin from hawaii. It sure can't happen often. I wouldn't sell it to you. I will give it to you freely. speak amongsth thyselves. I may spoke thusly again later. |
Paph kolopakingii var alba?
only just now read this thread--congrats! :)
albas don't do it for me either; but then, i'm not into paphs. --j_a |
Paph kolopakingii var alba?
Al, lest you mistake my intention. My 'Ditto" was in thinking that if ever
such a wonderful plant ever came into my hands I wouldn't understand its significance. I'd think something stupid like 'oh! what happened to the color?' and put it on the next raffle table, only to find I'd let a truly wonderful and potentially lucrative possibility slip (once again) through my fingers. K Barrett wrote in message ups.com... On May 15, 9:11 pm, "Ray B" wrote: Al has thusly spoke: "Handled correctly, that sale might pay for a few semesters of college." ...which, of course, I could REALLY use. I suspect, however, that if such an ephemeral creature ever appears, I probably won't think much of its worth and will get rid of it in a manner that will make it the recipient's good fortune, not mine. Well I did spoke thusly and I am going to spoke thusly again ;-) I had to think of its worth. I have no other means of support. I think of the worth of all of the plants I sell. I think the people who pay for those are getting good fortune for the price too. And I think the people who chose to keep their money in their pocket know where their fortune lies or lays, whatever... I also think of the expenses of keeping them around. I like growing orchids. Selling them is a necessity. They don't have to be rare. In fact considering how this alba made me feel just having it around I probably would rather just grow and sell the other kind. There are people who think I should have held out for 4 or 5 times what I sold it for and I can not even imagine that. There may even be people who would pay that much, some of them didn't get to me fast enough, apparenly. I feel I got fair value and good fortune for my plant and I think those who bought it feel the same way. I think those who would pay 4 to 5 times more will also pay for the names of the people I sold it to, if they can't figure it out. But do remember i have that list now, and there is no reason you shouldn't think of its worth that I can think of if you find such a plant in a wholesale coffin from hawaii. It sure can't happen often. I wouldn't sell it to you. I will give it to you freely. speak amongsth thyselves. I may spoke thusly again later. |
Paph kolopakingii var alba?
On May 16, 11:29 am, "K Barrett" wrote:
Al, lest you mistake my intention. My 'Ditto" was in thinking that if ever such a wonderful plant ever came into my hands I wouldn't understand its significance. I'd think something stupid like 'oh! what happened to the color?' and put it on the next raffle table, only to find I'd let a truly wonderful and potentially lucrative possibility slip (once again) through my fingers. K Barrett wrote in message ups.com... On May 15, 9:11 pm, "Ray B" wrote: Al has thusly spoke: "Handled correctly, that sale might pay for a few semesters of college." ...which, of course, I could REALLY use. I suspect, however, that if such an ephemeral creature ever appears, I probably won't think much of its worth and will get rid of it in a manner that will make it the recipient's good fortune, not mine. Well I did spoke thusly and I am going to spoke thusly again ;-) I had to think of its worth. I have no other means of support. I think of the worth of all of the plants I sell. I think the people who pay for those are getting good fortune for the price too. And I think the people who chose to keep their money in their pocket know where their fortune lies or lays, whatever... I also think of the expenses of keeping them around. I like growing orchids. Selling them is a necessity. They don't have to be rare. In fact considering how this alba made me feel just having it around I probably would rather just grow and sell the other kind. There are people who think I should have held out for 4 or 5 times what I sold it for and I can not even imagine that. There may even be people who would pay that much, some of them didn't get to me fast enough, apparenly. I feel I got fair value and good fortune for my plant and I think those who bought it feel the same way. I think those who would pay 4 to 5 times more will also pay for the names of the people I sold it to, if they can't figure it out. But do remember i have that list now, and there is no reason you shouldn't think of its worth that I can think of if you find such a plant in a wholesale coffin from hawaii. It sure can't happen often. I wouldn't sell it to you. I will give it to you freely. speak amongsth thyselves. I may spoke thusly again later.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I was/am playing. I thought Ray was/am playing too. I did understand your ditto...something about not knowing the iron was hot yet and failing to strike... ....FWIW, Al is being way over-stimulated by the events of the week and may have gotten his anteenaa all tangled up in the low hanging branches of this thread and look all silly in the process as he flails around. Try not to laugh or get angry if he smacks around while trying to free himself. |
Paph kolopakingii var alba?
wrote in message ups.com... There are people who think I should have held out for 4 or 5 times what I sold it for and I can not even imagine that. There may even be people who would pay that much, some of them didn't get to me fast enough, apparenly. I feel I got fair value and good fortune for my plant and I think those who bought it feel the same way. I think those who would pay 4 to 5 times more will also pay for the names of the people I sold it to, if they can't figure it out. Everything we sell was priced too cheap, unless of course it did not sell and then it was priced too high. Congrats. Pat |
Paph kolopakingii var alba?
Now THOSE are the most poignant philosophical words I've ever heard!
You have done well, Cricket. -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! "Pat Brennan" wrote in message g.com... Everything we sell was priced too cheap, unless of course it did not sell and then it was priced too high. Congrats. Pat |
Paph kolopakingii var alba?
I believe the preference is simply one of those "different strokes" things.
I also believe that none of us here would give a rodent's patoot if you HAD held out for the many-multiplier payment level; I only know I would not have been in the mix. I probably would have bee jealous, though (of your situation, not the buyer's). -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! wrote in message ups.com... On May 15, 9:11 pm, "Ray B" wrote: Al has thusly spoke: "Handled correctly, that sale might pay for a few semesters of college." ...which, of course, I could REALLY use. I suspect, however, that if such an ephemeral creature ever appears, I probably won't think much of its worth and will get rid of it in a manner that will make it the recipient's good fortune, not mine. Well I did spoke thusly and I am going to spoke thusly again ;-) I had to think of its worth. I have no other means of support. I think of the worth of all of the plants I sell. I think the people who pay for those are getting good fortune for the price too. And I think the people who chose to keep their money in their pocket know where their fortune lies or lays, whatever... I also think of the expenses of keeping them around. I like growing orchids. Selling them is a necessity. They don't have to be rare. In fact considering how this alba made me feel just having it around I probably would rather just grow and sell the other kind. There are people who think I should have held out for 4 or 5 times what I sold it for and I can not even imagine that. There may even be people who would pay that much, some of them didn't get to me fast enough, apparenly. I feel I got fair value and good fortune for my plant and I think those who bought it feel the same way. I think those who would pay 4 to 5 times more will also pay for the names of the people I sold it to, if they can't figure it out. But do remember i have that list now, and there is no reason you shouldn't think of its worth that I can think of if you find such a plant in a wholesale coffin from hawaii. It sure can't happen often. I wouldn't sell it to you. I will give it to you freely. speak amongsth thyselves. I may spoke thusly again later. |
Paph kolopakingii var alba?
On May 16, 10:16 pm, "Ray B" wrote:
I believe the preference is simply one of those "different strokes" things. I also believe that none of us here would give a rodent's patoot if you HAD held out for the many-multiplier payment level; I only know I would not have been in the mix. I probably would have bee jealous, though (of your situation, not the buyer's). -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids -www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! At least one person would have cared if I had held out a bit longer...if you count me then two. ...but its done. People always ask me to point out the most valuable or expensive plant in my greenhouse. It was intersting to watch the customers walk though over the weekend. Nobody really noiced it sitting there. A few real collectors (people who come in often and have a varity of different plants numbering above 50) or so, didn't even seem that interested. One of the guys kind of wondered away while I was telling him what I thought it was and how unusual it was; he left happy with a budded division of Bulbophyllum trigonosepalum 'Doggy Doo' CHM/AOS which I promised him smelled like dog crap. (I couldn't find this CHM in wildcat) |
Paph kolopakingii var alba?
Somewhere I remember some guy saying his plants were like lotto
tickets......most of the time he has a pocket full of slips of paper. Me thinks the guy finally hit the lotto! Congratulations..... BTW....I'd rather be lucky than good. |
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