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K Barrett 30-03-2008 06:50 PM

Orchid Inventory
 
Marilyn Light (North American chair of the Orchid Specialist Group) used to
give OrchidSafari chats on the idea of orchid conservation vis a vis
hobbyist's orchid collections. Or to put it another way, since habitat is
being lost our collections just may wind up housing important plants, maybe
even one's no longer found in the wild. You may or may not agree with that
idea but one of the things Marilyn used to stress was to keep and maintain a
list of all your orchids, hybrids included, because some just might become
important.

Lo and behold, my mentor did keep a list of her orchids. More importantly
she *maintained* the list! Dang, she even input purchases made just a few
days before she died. (The woman was compulsive, *G*.) I can't tell you
how easy it has been for her family to figure out what's in the GH. It only
took a day to figure out what's still extant in her collection. Way more
easy than the daunting task of cataloging what's in her library and potting
shed.

So, while Marilyn Light might have had some lofty goal, thinking that a list
of what's in the GH could conserve orchids in the wild, in reality its made
one facet of my mentor's heir's lives real easy. People here have mentioned
their orchid databases, some that even include flowering records. *Kudos to
you all!* I never really was 'together' enough to make a list of my
orchids, much less keep it current but now I'm considering it and including
my library's books, too. I figure my heirs deserve a clue as to what's
worthwhile in all the crap they may want to dump or sell on eBay.

K Barrett



Kenni Judd 30-03-2008 07:54 PM

Orchid Inventory
 
K: that's a purpose few like to consider, which is unfortunate, because
sooner or later, it will happen to all of us ...

We get several calls a year, from folks seeking to sell such collections
after the actual grower has passed on. If they had that type of inventory
listing to send out, they'd generate a lot more interest.

The other issue, of course, is prompt action, which it sounds like it's also
happening in your case. Without the grower or someone taking at least
minimal care, the value can decrease rapidly. Kudos to Marilyn. Kenni

"K Barrett" wrote in message
. ..
Marilyn Light (North American chair of the Orchid Specialist Group) used
to give OrchidSafari chats on the idea of orchid conservation vis a vis
hobbyist's orchid collections. SNIP Lo and behold, my mentor did keep a
list of her orchids. More importantly she *maintained* the list! Dang,
she even input purchases made just a few days before she died. (The woman
was compulsive, *G*.) I can't tell you how easy it has been for her
family to figure out what's in the GH. It only took a day to figure out
what's still extant in her collection. Way more easy than the daunting
task of cataloging what's in her library and potting shed.

So, while Marilyn Light might have had some lofty goal, thinking that a
list of what's in the GH could conserve orchids in the wild, in reality
its made one facet of my mentor's heir's lives real easy. SNIP




Diana Kulaga[_5_] 30-03-2008 08:18 PM

Orchid Inventory
 
Okay, you have laid on the guilt, Kathy. I used to have an up to date list,
complete with hyperlinks. It went away. I'll do it again. Promise. Right
after I get done repotting.....

All joking aside, you've put forth a very good reason for having
comprehensive records, and you kind of lit a fire under my butt.

Diana

"Kenni Judd" wrote in message
. ..
K: that's a purpose few like to consider, which is unfortunate, because
sooner or later, it will happen to all of us ...

We get several calls a year, from folks seeking to sell such collections
after the actual grower has passed on. If they had that type of inventory
listing to send out, they'd generate a lot more interest.

The other issue, of course, is prompt action, which it sounds like it's
also happening in your case. Without the grower or someone taking at
least minimal care, the value can decrease rapidly. Kudos to Marilyn.
Kenni

"K Barrett" wrote in message
. ..
Marilyn Light (North American chair of the Orchid Specialist Group) used
to give OrchidSafari chats on the idea of orchid conservation vis a vis
hobbyist's orchid collections. SNIP Lo and behold, my mentor did keep
a list of her orchids. More importantly she *maintained* the list! Dang,
she even input purchases made just a few days before she died. (The
woman was compulsive, *G*.) I can't tell you how easy it has been for
her family to figure out what's in the GH. It only took a day to figure
out what's still extant in her collection. Way more easy than the
daunting task of cataloging what's in her library and potting shed.

So, while Marilyn Light might have had some lofty goal, thinking that a
list of what's in the GH could conserve orchids in the wild, in reality
its made one facet of my mentor's heir's lives real easy. SNIP






K Barrett 31-03-2008 02:48 AM

Orchid Inventory
 
No guilt intended, Diana. Just be sure to keep the laptop dry in teh gh (or
inyour case the lanai. Actually I can see you out there sipping sweet tea
and typing away on the computer (long extention cord) while your husband
does the hard work of digging the labels out of the pots.

K
"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
.. .
Okay, you have laid on the guilt, Kathy. I used to have an up to date
list, complete with hyperlinks. It went away. I'll do it again. Promise.
Right after I get done repotting.....

All joking aside, you've put forth a very good reason for having
comprehensive records, and you kind of lit a fire under my butt.

Diana

"Kenni Judd" wrote in message
. ..
K: that's a purpose few like to consider, which is unfortunate, because
sooner or later, it will happen to all of us ...

We get several calls a year, from folks seeking to sell such collections
after the actual grower has passed on. If they had that type of
inventory listing to send out, they'd generate a lot more interest.

The other issue, of course, is prompt action, which it sounds like it's
also happening in your case. Without the grower or someone taking at
least minimal care, the value can decrease rapidly. Kudos to Marilyn.
Kenni

"K Barrett" wrote in message
. ..
Marilyn Light (North American chair of the Orchid Specialist Group) used
to give OrchidSafari chats on the idea of orchid conservation vis a vis
hobbyist's orchid collections. SNIP Lo and behold, my mentor did keep
a list of her orchids. More importantly she *maintained* the list!
Dang, she even input purchases made just a few days before she died.
(The woman was compulsive, *G*.) I can't tell you how easy it has been
for her family to figure out what's in the GH. It only took a day to
figure out what's still extant in her collection. Way more easy than
the daunting task of cataloging what's in her library and potting shed.

So, while Marilyn Light might have had some lofty goal, thinking that a
list of what's in the GH could conserve orchids in the wild, in reality
its made one facet of my mentor's heir's lives real easy. SNIP








Dave Gillingham 31-03-2008 09:01 AM

Orchid Inventory
 
Kathy, there's another use as well as the unpleasant long term consideration. It
helps no end in tracking repotting & other treatment needs. I also try to
record *where* each plant is in my collection now. That's after searching &
swearing, trying to find a particular plant (or many) that my database says
should be repotted.

And, while I don't keep it all as up to date as I should, I do ensure that each
purchase, loss, repot, and position on shelf is recorded.

For repotting, I find it far easier to sort the database by repot date than to
work my way through the entire collection looking for the date of last repot on
each tag.


On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 10:50:55 -0700, "K Barrett" wrote:

Marilyn Light (North American chair of the Orchid Specialist Group) used to
give OrchidSafari chats on the idea of orchid conservation vis a vis
hobbyist's orchid collections. Or to put it another way, since habitat is
being lost our collections just may wind up housing important plants, maybe
even one's no longer found in the wild. You may or may not agree with that
idea but one of the things Marilyn used to stress was to keep and maintain a
list of all your orchids, hybrids included, because some just might become
important.

Lo and behold, my mentor did keep a list of her orchids. More importantly
she *maintained* the list! Dang, she even input purchases made just a few
days before she died. (The woman was compulsive, *G*.) I can't tell you
how easy it has been for her family to figure out what's in the GH. It only
took a day to figure out what's still extant in her collection. Way more
easy than the daunting task of cataloging what's in her library and potting
shed.

So, while Marilyn Light might have had some lofty goal, thinking that a list
of what's in the GH could conserve orchids in the wild, in reality its made
one facet of my mentor's heir's lives real easy. People here have mentioned
their orchid databases, some that even include flowering records. *Kudos to
you all!* I never really was 'together' enough to make a list of my
orchids, much less keep it current but now I'm considering it and including
my library's books, too. I figure my heirs deserve a clue as to what's
worthwhile in all the crap they may want to dump or sell on eBay.

K Barrett

Dave Gillingham
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[email protected] 31-03-2008 02:59 PM

Orchid Inventory
 
i never planned on keeping track of the weeds--until a friend of mine
gave me a nice little blank book for xmas one year. i thought, "what
am i going to do with *this*?" and then said "ah ha..."

i note acqusition of the plant (name, nursery, brief description),
when it dies, or when i give it away, when it gets a registered name,
and if i win anything on it. (once, so far. :) repotting dates are on
plant tags in the pots.

however, i only have about 3 dozen plants, so it's all very casual. :)

but good points about the conservation issue....

--j_a

K Barrett 31-03-2008 04:27 PM

Orchid Inventory
 
I wound up re-entering a lot of names just so I could search the database
easier. For example plants were listed as Blc, brassolaeliocattleya and
every spelling in between. A computer genius I'm not but I learned
consistency isn't a hobgoblin of small minds where databases are concerned,
*G*. I wish she had recorded when each plant exited out of the collection.
What initially looked like over 1000 plants on paper wound up being about
300 or so in real life. So far. We still have the outdoor plants to do.
But again, it should be easy to mark who's present and accounted for..

K Barrett

"Dave Gillingham" wrote in message
...
Kathy, there's another use as well as the unpleasant long term
consideration. It
helps no end in tracking repotting & other treatment needs. I also try to
record *where* each plant is in my collection now. That's after searching
&
swearing, trying to find a particular plant (or many) that my database
says
should be repotted.

And, while I don't keep it all as up to date as I should, I do ensure that
each
purchase, loss, repot, and position on shelf is recorded.

For repotting, I find it far easier to sort the database by repot date
than to
work my way through the entire collection looking for the date of last
repot on
each tag.


On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 10:50:55 -0700, "K Barrett"
wrote:

Marilyn Light (North American chair of the Orchid Specialist Group) used
to
give OrchidSafari chats on the idea of orchid conservation vis a vis
hobbyist's orchid collections. Or to put it another way, since habitat is
being lost our collections just may wind up housing important plants,
maybe
even one's no longer found in the wild. You may or may not agree with
that
idea but one of the things Marilyn used to stress was to keep and maintain
a
list of all your orchids, hybrids included, because some just might become
important.

Lo and behold, my mentor did keep a list of her orchids. More importantly
she *maintained* the list! Dang, she even input purchases made just a few
days before she died. (The woman was compulsive, *G*.) I can't tell you
how easy it has been for her family to figure out what's in the GH. It
only
took a day to figure out what's still extant in her collection. Way more
easy than the daunting task of cataloging what's in her library and
potting
shed.

So, while Marilyn Light might have had some lofty goal, thinking that a
list
of what's in the GH could conserve orchids in the wild, in reality its
made
one facet of my mentor's heir's lives real easy. People here have
mentioned
their orchid databases, some that even include flowering records. *Kudos
to
you all!* I never really was 'together' enough to make a list of my
orchids, much less keep it current but now I'm considering it and
including
my library's books, too. I figure my heirs deserve a clue as to what's
worthwhile in all the crap they may want to dump or sell on eBay.

K Barrett

Dave Gillingham
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K Barrett 31-03-2008 04:36 PM

Orchid Inventory
 
"tenman" wrote in message
...
Dave Gillingham wrote:
Kathy, there's another use as well as the unpleasant long term
consideration. It
helps no end in tracking repotting & other treatment needs. I also try
to
record *where* each plant is in my collection now. That's after
searching &
swearing, trying to find a particular plant (or many) that my database
says
should be repotted.

And, while I don't keep it all as up to date as I should, I do ensure
that each
purchase, loss, repot, and position on shelf is recorded.

For repotting, I find it far easier to sort the database by repot date
than to
work my way through the entire collection looking for the date of last
repot on
each tag.


You people need to get jobs! :) Having a library background, I used to be
a thorough record-keeper and very much enjoyed the process. Now I'm lucky
to find time for a rushed unenjoyable job of watering often enough to keep
the plants alive. Where do you folks find the time for this sort of thing?


Well, that was my opinion, too. As you know I rarely have time to water
either. 'Let 'em wait another week' is my motto. My life is go to work, go
home, go to work, go home. I crash on the sofa with the remote and nowadays
I'm in bed by 8:30pm. I tell you, life sucks sometimes. But my friend's
husband (not an orchid person) said that he wanted to be sure her collection
lived. He said he'd watch people walk out of shows with orchid purchases
that he *knew* were just going to die becasue no one knew how to care for
it. He doesn't want that to happen to her collection. She loved those
plants. So we're getting them appropriate homes, once we figure out what's
there. Hence the list. Hence my gratitude that my friend was meticulous.

K (the underwaterer) Barrett



K Barrett 31-03-2008 04:38 PM

Orchid Inventory
 
wrote in message
...
i never planned on keeping track of the weeds--until a friend of mine
gave me a nice little blank book for xmas one year. i thought, "what
am i going to do with *this*?" and then said "ah ha..."

i note acqusition of the plant (name, nursery, brief description),
when it dies, or when i give it away, when it gets a registered name,
and if i win anything on it. (once, so far. :) repotting dates are on
plant tags in the pots.

however, i only have about 3 dozen plants, so it's all very casual. :)

but good points about the conservation issue....

--j_a


It took me a long time to learn not to get more plants than I could take
care of in a reasonable span of time. I probably have too many for my life
right now but of course I can't get rid of *any* of them! So learn from my
mistake. Keep your collection controlled, *G*!

K Barrett



[email protected] 31-03-2008 04:59 PM

Orchid Inventory
 
On Mar 31, 11:38*am, "K Barrett" wrote:

It took me a long time to learn not to get more plants than I could take
care of in a reasonable span of time. *I probably have too many for my life
right now but of course I can't get rid of *any* of them! *So learn from my
mistake. *Keep your collection controlled, *G*!


it's all in terms of "what will fit on the windowseat?" ;)

but then i have issues like:

went to repot the little encyclia chochleata (from a 2 inch pot into a
yogurt cup); discovered there were *2* plants in there. so now i have
the 2 inch pot AND the yogurt cup.

got a couple sale dens at kensington several yrs ago; they were about
a foot tall. they are now taking over the kitchen. one is about to
bloom on 2 spikes off a 3 foot cane. :( (but they're so *cute* when
they're little-!)

one of our club members brings in plants covered with keikis to
repot. we end up going home with little bitty plants. some straggle
along--and then there's one like the nobile-type den that may end up
taking over the kitchen one day. :(

so far it still only takes a couple hours once a week to water them
all in a leisurely fashion; i top off a few in the middle of the
week. this is about as many as i want to handle at the moment. (damn
this full time job anyway....)

--j_a


Ray B 31-03-2008 10:26 PM

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Wrong, wrong, WRONG!!!!!

You must learn to use technology to allow you to take care of many more
plants than you could by hand!

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info!


"K Barrett" wrote
It took me a long time to learn not to get more plants than I could take
care of in a reasonable span of time. I probably have too many for my
life right now but of course I can't get rid of *any* of them! So learn
from my mistake. Keep your collection controlled, *G*!




[email protected] 31-03-2008 10:30 PM

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On Mar 31, 5:26*pm, "Ray B" wrote:
Wrong, wrong, WRONG!!!!!

You must learn to use technology to allow you to take care of many more
plants than you could by hand!



hee!

--j_a


Diana Kulaga[_5_] 01-04-2008 12:36 AM

Orchid Inventory
 
So, what does everyone use for this purpose? I had an Excel spreadsheet.
With it, I could add hyperlinks, sort, etc. But I'm hearing you guys talk
about data bases.

Which do you use?

Diana

"K Barrett" wrote in message
. ..
I wound up re-entering a lot of names just so I could search the database
easier. For example plants were listed as Blc, brassolaeliocattleya and
every spelling in between. A computer genius I'm not but I learned
consistency isn't a hobgoblin of small minds where databases are concerned,
*G*. I wish she had recorded when each plant exited out of the collection.
What initially looked like over 1000 plants on paper wound up being about
300 or so in real life. So far. We still have the outdoor plants to do.
But again, it should be easy to mark who's present and accounted for..

K Barrett

"Dave Gillingham" wrote in message
...
Kathy, there's another use as well as the unpleasant long term
consideration. It
helps no end in tracking repotting & other treatment needs. I also try
to
record *where* each plant is in my collection now. That's after
searching &
swearing, trying to find a particular plant (or many) that my database
says
should be repotted.

And, while I don't keep it all as up to date as I should, I do ensure
that each
purchase, loss, repot, and position on shelf is recorded.

For repotting, I find it far easier to sort the database by repot date
than to
work my way through the entire collection looking for the date of last
repot on
each tag.


On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 10:50:55 -0700, "K Barrett"
wrote:

Marilyn Light (North American chair of the Orchid Specialist Group) used
to
give OrchidSafari chats on the idea of orchid conservation vis a vis
hobbyist's orchid collections. Or to put it another way, since habitat
is
being lost our collections just may wind up housing important plants,
maybe
even one's no longer found in the wild. You may or may not agree with
that
idea but one of the things Marilyn used to stress was to keep and
maintain a
list of all your orchids, hybrids included, because some just might
become
important.

Lo and behold, my mentor did keep a list of her orchids. More importantly
she *maintained* the list! Dang, she even input purchases made just a
few
days before she died. (The woman was compulsive, *G*.) I can't tell you
how easy it has been for her family to figure out what's in the GH. It
only
took a day to figure out what's still extant in her collection. Way more
easy than the daunting task of cataloging what's in her library and
potting
shed.

So, while Marilyn Light might have had some lofty goal, thinking that a
list
of what's in the GH could conserve orchids in the wild, in reality its
made
one facet of my mentor's heir's lives real easy. People here have
mentioned
their orchid databases, some that even include flowering records. *Kudos
to
you all!* I never really was 'together' enough to make a list of my
orchids, much less keep it current but now I'm considering it and
including
my library's books, too. I figure my heirs deserve a clue as to what's
worthwhile in all the crap they may want to dump or sell on eBay.

K Barrett

Dave Gillingham
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wendy7 01-04-2008 03:12 AM

Orchid Inventory
 
I use MS Office Access 2007 & Access 97 before upgrading to the new OS
Vista.
I also toyed with the DB that ProfPam built "EverythingOrchid" but not sure
if she is still selling it. It was
really fancy with lots of various tables & reports etc. I can get her info
if anyone is interested.
Cheers Wendy


"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
...
So, what does everyone use for this purpose? I had an Excel spreadsheet.
With it, I could add hyperlinks, sort, etc. But I'm hearing you guys talk
about data bases.

Which do you use?

Diana

"K Barrett" wrote in message
. ..
I wound up re-entering a lot of names just so I could search the database
easier. For example plants were listed as Blc, brassolaeliocattleya and
every spelling in between. A computer genius I'm not but I learned
consistency isn't a hobgoblin of small minds where databases are
concerned, *G*. I wish she had recorded when each plant exited out of the
collection. What initially looked like over 1000 plants on paper wound up
being about 300 or so in real life. So far. We still have the outdoor
plants to do. But again, it should be easy to mark who's present and
accounted for..

K Barrett

"Dave Gillingham" wrote in message
...
Kathy, there's another use as well as the unpleasant long term
consideration. It
helps no end in tracking repotting & other treatment needs. I also try
to
record *where* each plant is in my collection now. That's after
searching &
swearing, trying to find a particular plant (or many) that my database
says
should be repotted.

And, while I don't keep it all as up to date as I should, I do ensure
that each
purchase, loss, repot, and position on shelf is recorded.

For repotting, I find it far easier to sort the database by repot date
than to
work my way through the entire collection looking for the date of last
repot on
each tag.


On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 10:50:55 -0700, "K Barrett"
wrote:

Marilyn Light (North American chair of the Orchid Specialist Group) used
to
give OrchidSafari chats on the idea of orchid conservation vis a vis
hobbyist's orchid collections. Or to put it another way, since habitat
is
being lost our collections just may wind up housing important plants,
maybe
even one's no longer found in the wild. You may or may not agree with
that
idea but one of the things Marilyn used to stress was to keep and
maintain a
list of all your orchids, hybrids included, because some just might
become
important.

Lo and behold, my mentor did keep a list of her orchids. More
importantly
she *maintained* the list! Dang, she even input purchases made just a
few
days before she died. (The woman was compulsive, *G*.) I can't tell
you
how easy it has been for her family to figure out what's in the GH. It
only
took a day to figure out what's still extant in her collection. Way
more
easy than the daunting task of cataloging what's in her library and
potting
shed.

So, while Marilyn Light might have had some lofty goal, thinking that a
list
of what's in the GH could conserve orchids in the wild, in reality its
made
one facet of my mentor's heir's lives real easy. People here have
mentioned
their orchid databases, some that even include flowering records.
*Kudos to
you all!* I never really was 'together' enough to make a list of my
orchids, much less keep it current but now I'm considering it and
including
my library's books, too. I figure my heirs deserve a clue as to what's
worthwhile in all the crap they may want to dump or sell on eBay.

K Barrett

Dave Gillingham
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K Barrett 01-04-2008 06:03 AM

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Heck I was just going to use Excel....

K


"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
...
So, what does everyone use for this purpose? I had an Excel spreadsheet.
With it, I could add hyperlinks, sort, etc. But I'm hearing you guys talk
about data bases.

Which do you use?

Diana

"K Barrett" wrote in message
. ..
I wound up re-entering a lot of names just so I could search the database
easier. For example plants were listed as Blc, brassolaeliocattleya and
every spelling in between. A computer genius I'm not but I learned
consistency isn't a hobgoblin of small minds where databases are
concerned, *G*. I wish she had recorded when each plant exited out of the
collection. What initially looked like over 1000 plants on paper wound up
being about 300 or so in real life. So far. We still have the outdoor
plants to do. But again, it should be easy to mark who's present and
accounted for..

K Barrett

"Dave Gillingham" wrote in message
...
Kathy, there's another use as well as the unpleasant long term
consideration. It
helps no end in tracking repotting & other treatment needs. I also try
to
record *where* each plant is in my collection now. That's after
searching &
swearing, trying to find a particular plant (or many) that my database
says
should be repotted.

And, while I don't keep it all as up to date as I should, I do ensure
that each
purchase, loss, repot, and position on shelf is recorded.

For repotting, I find it far easier to sort the database by repot date
than to
work my way through the entire collection looking for the date of last
repot on
each tag.


On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 10:50:55 -0700, "K Barrett"
wrote:

Marilyn Light (North American chair of the Orchid Specialist Group) used
to
give OrchidSafari chats on the idea of orchid conservation vis a vis
hobbyist's orchid collections. Or to put it another way, since habitat
is
being lost our collections just may wind up housing important plants,
maybe
even one's no longer found in the wild. You may or may not agree with
that
idea but one of the things Marilyn used to stress was to keep and
maintain a
list of all your orchids, hybrids included, because some just might
become
important.

Lo and behold, my mentor did keep a list of her orchids. More
importantly
she *maintained* the list! Dang, she even input purchases made just a
few
days before she died. (The woman was compulsive, *G*.) I can't tell
you
how easy it has been for her family to figure out what's in the GH. It
only
took a day to figure out what's still extant in her collection. Way
more
easy than the daunting task of cataloging what's in her library and
potting
shed.

So, while Marilyn Light might have had some lofty goal, thinking that a
list
of what's in the GH could conserve orchids in the wild, in reality its
made
one facet of my mentor's heir's lives real easy. People here have
mentioned
their orchid databases, some that even include flowering records.
*Kudos to
you all!* I never really was 'together' enough to make a list of my
orchids, much less keep it current but now I'm considering it and
including
my library's books, too. I figure my heirs deserve a clue as to what's
worthwhile in all the crap they may want to dump or sell on eBay.

K Barrett

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K Barrett 01-04-2008 06:09 AM

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[hands covering ears] Must. Not. Listen.

K*G*Barrett

"Ray B" wrote in message
news:jGcIj.4041$s27.3393@trnddc02...
Wrong, wrong, WRONG!!!!!

You must learn to use technology to allow you to take care of many more
plants than you could by hand!

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info!


"K Barrett" wrote
It took me a long time to learn not to get more plants than I could take
care of in a reasonable span of time. I probably have too many for my
life right now but of course I can't get rid of *any* of them! So learn
from my mistake. Keep your collection controlled, *G*!






Dave Gillingham 01-04-2008 12:19 PM

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Setting up the database (I use a spreadsheet) takes time. Once set up, the time
in updating is trivial compared with the time to repot - & saves heaps of time
subsequently. I'll post a small part of mine on abpo as one example. When you
look at it, the blank entries for shelf information are those that will be
repotted this spring, & so have not yet been entered. I only started including
shelf info at last year's repot.


On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 08:27:05 -0700, "K Barrett" wrote:

I wound up re-entering a lot of names just so I could search the database
easier. For example plants were listed as Blc, brassolaeliocattleya and
every spelling in between. A computer genius I'm not but I learned
consistency isn't a hobgoblin of small minds where databases are concerned,
*G*. I wish she had recorded when each plant exited out of the collection.
What initially looked like over 1000 plants on paper wound up being about
300 or so in real life. So far. We still have the outdoor plants to do.
But again, it should be easy to mark who's present and accounted for..

K Barrett

"Dave Gillingham" wrote in message
.. .
Kathy, there's another use as well as the unpleasant long term
consideration. It
helps no end in tracking repotting & other treatment needs. I also try to
record *where* each plant is in my collection now. That's after searching
&
swearing, trying to find a particular plant (or many) that my database
says
should be repotted.

And, while I don't keep it all as up to date as I should, I do ensure that
each
purchase, loss, repot, and position on shelf is recorded.

For repotting, I find it far easier to sort the database by repot date
than to
work my way through the entire collection looking for the date of last
repot on
each tag.


On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 10:50:55 -0700, "K Barrett"
wrote:

Marilyn Light (North American chair of the Orchid Specialist Group) used
to
give OrchidSafari chats on the idea of orchid conservation vis a vis
hobbyist's orchid collections. Or to put it another way, since habitat is
being lost our collections just may wind up housing important plants,
maybe
even one's no longer found in the wild. You may or may not agree with
that
idea but one of the things Marilyn used to stress was to keep and maintain
a
list of all your orchids, hybrids included, because some just might become
important.

Lo and behold, my mentor did keep a list of her orchids. More importantly
she *maintained* the list! Dang, she even input purchases made just a few
days before she died. (The woman was compulsive, *G*.) I can't tell you
how easy it has been for her family to figure out what's in the GH. It
only
took a day to figure out what's still extant in her collection. Way more
easy than the daunting task of cataloging what's in her library and
potting
shed.

So, while Marilyn Light might have had some lofty goal, thinking that a
list
of what's in the GH could conserve orchids in the wild, in reality its
made
one facet of my mentor's heir's lives real easy. People here have
mentioned
their orchid databases, some that even include flowering records. *Kudos
to
you all!* I never really was 'together' enough to make a list of my
orchids, much less keep it current but now I'm considering it and
including
my library's books, too. I figure my heirs deserve a clue as to what's
worthwhile in all the crap they may want to dump or sell on eBay.

K Barrett

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Robert Lorenzini 01-04-2008 04:07 PM

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On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 19:36:10 -0400, Diana Kulaga wrote:
So, what does everyone use for this purpose? I had an Excel spreadsheet.
With it, I could add hyperlinks, sort, etc. But I'm hearing you guys talk
about data bases.


I'm a linux wennie and I found a cataloging program called tellico. It
has the ability to output HTML and I had some web space I was not
using so I put my collection online. The name of my boat is Stormy
Petrel so I called it the "Stormy Petrel Collection" for grins. I'm
way behind on the pictures but if you click on plant link and then
the pic you get full size.

www.llorenzini.com

Bob

Diana Kulaga[_5_] 01-04-2008 08:22 PM

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Interesting stuff. Bob's log is great, but it looks like a lot of set up
work. The one I was keeping was similar to what Dave does. A few columns
differ, but that's to be expected.

Okay. Back to Excel, and off we go.

Diana

"Dave Gillingham" wrote in message
...
Setting up the database (I use a spreadsheet) takes time. Once set up,
the time
in updating is trivial compared with the time to repot - & saves heaps of
time
subsequently. I'll post a small part of mine on abpo as one example.
When you
look at it, the blank entries for shelf information are those that will be
repotted this spring, & so have not yet been entered. I only started
including
shelf info at last year's repot.


On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 08:27:05 -0700, "K Barrett"
wrote:

I wound up re-entering a lot of names just so I could search the database
easier. For example plants were listed as Blc, brassolaeliocattleya and
every spelling in between. A computer genius I'm not but I learned
consistency isn't a hobgoblin of small minds where databases are
concerned,
*G*. I wish she had recorded when each plant exited out of the
collection.
What initially looked like over 1000 plants on paper wound up being about
300 or so in real life. So far. We still have the outdoor plants to do.
But again, it should be easy to mark who's present and accounted for..

K Barrett

"Dave Gillingham" wrote in message
. ..
Kathy, there's another use as well as the unpleasant long term
consideration. It
helps no end in tracking repotting & other treatment needs. I also try
to
record *where* each plant is in my collection now. That's after
searching
&
swearing, trying to find a particular plant (or many) that my database
says
should be repotted.

And, while I don't keep it all as up to date as I should, I do ensure
that
each
purchase, loss, repot, and position on shelf is recorded.

For repotting, I find it far easier to sort the database by repot date
than to
work my way through the entire collection looking for the date of last
repot on
each tag.


On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 10:50:55 -0700, "K Barrett"
wrote:

Marilyn Light (North American chair of the Orchid Specialist Group) used
to
give OrchidSafari chats on the idea of orchid conservation vis a vis
hobbyist's orchid collections. Or to put it another way, since habitat
is
being lost our collections just may wind up housing important plants,
maybe
even one's no longer found in the wild. You may or may not agree with
that
idea but one of the things Marilyn used to stress was to keep and
maintain
a
list of all your orchids, hybrids included, because some just might
become
important.

Lo and behold, my mentor did keep a list of her orchids. More
importantly
she *maintained* the list! Dang, she even input purchases made just a
few
days before she died. (The woman was compulsive, *G*.) I can't tell
you
how easy it has been for her family to figure out what's in the GH. It
only
took a day to figure out what's still extant in her collection. Way
more
easy than the daunting task of cataloging what's in her library and
potting
shed.

So, while Marilyn Light might have had some lofty goal, thinking that a
list
of what's in the GH could conserve orchids in the wild, in reality its
made
one facet of my mentor's heir's lives real easy. People here have
mentioned
their orchid databases, some that even include flowering records.
*Kudos
to
you all!* I never really was 'together' enough to make a list of my
orchids, much less keep it current but now I'm considering it and
including
my library's books, too. I figure my heirs deserve a clue as to what's
worthwhile in all the crap they may want to dump or sell on eBay.

K Barrett

Dave Gillingham
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tbell 02-04-2008 01:41 AM

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On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:36:10 -0700, Diana Kulaga wrote
(in article ):

So, what does everyone use for this purpose? I had an Excel spreadsheet.
With it, I could add hyperlinks, sort, etc. But I'm hearing you guys talk
about data bases.

Which do you use?

Diana


Hey, Diana -
I know I'm in a small minority as a Mac user, but I've found it possible to
create very serviceable databases, first in Appleworks and more recently in a
cheap, independent program called iData3. I'm sure there are equivalent
programs for PC. Out of fear of Mick's wrath, I'll post a screen grab of one
orchid record on abpo.
Tom
Walnut Creek, CA
Nikon D200


Diana Kulaga[_5_] 02-04-2008 07:55 PM

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That looks interesting, Tom. I'll look into it.

Diana

"tbell" wrote in message
.com...
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:36:10 -0700, Diana Kulaga wrote
(in article ):

So, what does everyone use for this purpose? I had an Excel spreadsheet.
With it, I could add hyperlinks, sort, etc. But I'm hearing you guys talk
about data bases.

Which do you use?

Diana


Hey, Diana -
I know I'm in a small minority as a Mac user, but I've found it possible
to
create very serviceable databases, first in Appleworks and more recently
in a
cheap, independent program called iData3. I'm sure there are equivalent
programs for PC. Out of fear of Mick's wrath, I'll post a screen grab of
one
orchid record on abpo.
Tom
Walnut Creek, CA
Nikon D200




Dayton 03-04-2008 02:40 AM

Orchid Inventory
 
Also a Mac user and I set up a database in Filemaker Pro. You can easily
set up whatever you want from simple to complicated, including relating
records. I like it because you can include photos with each entry so
that when a tag or label goes missing it's possible to relabel it.

tbell wrote:
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:36:10 -0700, Diana Kulaga wrote
(in article ):


So, what does everyone use for this purpose? I had an Excel spreadsheet.
With it, I could add hyperlinks, sort, etc. But I'm hearing you guys talk
about data bases.

Which do you use?

Diana



Hey, Diana -
I know I'm in a small minority as a Mac user, but I've found it possible to
create very serviceable databases, first in Appleworks and more recently in a
cheap, independent program called iData3. I'm sure there are equivalent
programs for PC. Out of fear of Mick's wrath, I'll post a screen grab of one
orchid record on abpo.
Tom
Walnut Creek, CA
Nikon D200


Aaron Hicks 04-04-2008 07:25 PM

Orchid Inventory
 
I don't use anything to track potted plants, but I have a
custom-built database for the lab. It got to the point where paper wasn't
good enough, so now the Access database keeps it all straight.

For the uninitiated: Excel and other spreadsheets are "flat"
databases, although it is possible to tie things together if needs be-
with a bit of programming. Access and other relational databases have a
lot more power, if needed. For example, Excel could give you a nice
breakdown of the average pot size (if someone wanted that information for
some weird reason) of all your cattleyas. A relational database would be
more useful if one needed to produce a list of all plants belonging to
cattleya species starting with the letter "m" that were last repotted more
than 16 months ago.

In my case, I could have a list generated on command of all flasks
still on the shelves after X number of days- along with the shelf
location, and container identification. At the end of the day, I could
(and do) get an average age of containers on the shelves, and a standard
deviation of that age. Helps keep things fresh, you see.

A little tip: Open Office has a free (as in beer) office suite
that mimics that of Microsoft's, including its own database program and
spreadsheet. Lots of power there. And it's all free.

The address in the header is bogus. Send no email there.

-AJHicks
Chandler, AZ



K Barrett 05-04-2008 04:25 PM

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Thanks for the idea of Open Office, Aaron. How ya been, boy? Seedbank
keeping you busy? Saw the new book. Congrats! Hope its selling well.

K Barrett

"Aaron Hicks" wrote in message
...
I don't use anything to track potted plants, but I have a
custom-built database for the lab. It got to the point where paper wasn't
good enough, so now the Access database keeps it all straight.

For the uninitiated: Excel and other spreadsheets are "flat"
databases, although it is possible to tie things together if needs be-
with a bit of programming. Access and other relational databases have a
lot more power, if needed. For example, Excel could give you a nice
breakdown of the average pot size (if someone wanted that information for
some weird reason) of all your cattleyas. A relational database would be
more useful if one needed to produce a list of all plants belonging to
cattleya species starting with the letter "m" that were last repotted more
than 16 months ago.

In my case, I could have a list generated on command of all flasks
still on the shelves after X number of days- along with the shelf
location, and container identification. At the end of the day, I could
(and do) get an average age of containers on the shelves, and a standard
deviation of that age. Helps keep things fresh, you see.

A little tip: Open Office has a free (as in beer) office suite
that mimics that of Microsoft's, including its own database program and
spreadsheet. Lots of power there. And it's all free.

The address in the header is bogus. Send no email there.

-AJHicks
Chandler, AZ





Aaron Hicks 06-04-2008 09:08 AM

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Ya gotta love Open Office. It's really slick. Two years ago, I did
a presentation at the National Fire Academy (unrelated to orchids,
unsurprisingly), and used Open Office's "Impress," the equivalent of Power
Point. It meshed flawlessly. I was a little concerned about trying it out,
untested, but didn't have any option. Worked great.

The Seedbank is doing well; there's a spring lull in orders, but
it'll pick back up again soon. Seedling sales will be in full swing within
a month. Then it's back to writing, making more flasks, and cranking out
more seed orders in the fall. It's amazing how cyclical it is.

Third book sold out of its first printing in 3-4 months. I was
surprised how well it sold. Now working on second edition of my first
book, and another text- again, entirely unrelated to orchids, but on the
same thing I lectured about at the National Fire Academy. And the
occasional feature in The Orchid Review. And for those that missed it, the
bit on Spiranthes delitescens in the Orchid Digest last summer- there'll
be another one coming up before too long on another species, provided they
find it sufficiently intriguing.

Too many irons, not enough fire!

The address in the header is bogus. Send no email there.

-AJHicks
Chandler, AZ



Sue Erickson 28-04-2008 05:37 PM

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Ok -
I am late to the party -- but I lost my C drive in the middle of
March, which is not good for a Tax Accountant. I just got Agent,
GigaNews and You All back yesterday.

John and I use Access.
Advantages beyond the normal sort and print functions:
1. table for proper spellings and abbreviations of genus
I too suffer Kath's problem
2. table for vendors names, addresses, email, website, phone etc
nice to know where to go back or who to avoid
all link to THE list of plants.

The plant list sorts like Bobs with a click so I can look at or print
all the Catts or in our case it is usually all the Paphs and Phrags
to take shopping.

The ability to post pix in the database is there - the pix just made
it too big so now it is just a x box to say the pix is in the web
file.

I found taking the laptop out for inventory did not work. We were at
the point of getting a scanner the same label printer will print
barcodes for numbers. We had a number set that included the vendor
number as well as the plants number in the database.

John found a ThinkDB at one time that allowed access to be reduced to
PalmPDA sized database and it was very helpful during shopping trips.
It is so disconcerting to fall in love with a new plant only to get
home and find the reason your in love is because you already have 2.
G If you only learned to re-bloom them, you would have known.

I use colored tags for repot - this year is blue, last is yellow.
Anything in yellow needs it... anything in blue should be fresh.
I don't do updates well except for deaths, sales, purchases.
We are way - way behind on the photos and well be completely revamping
the gh this summer - the Phrags are taking over the west bench and all
plants in the way have to go.

Anyone got a good fern control. I don't know where they came from
except the staghorn but at least 3 ferns are making my gh home and
causing havoc with all things orchid.

SuE
http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/orchids


On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 15:22:39 -0400, "Diana Kulaga"
wrote:
Okay. Back to Excel, and off we go.

Diana


K Barrett 28-04-2008 10:06 PM

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What will you be revamping in the GH?

K Barrett


"Sue Erickson" wrote in message
...
Ok -
I am late to the party -- but I lost my C drive in the middle of
March, which is not good for a Tax Accountant. I just got Agent,
GigaNews and You All back yesterday.

John and I use Access.
Advantages beyond the normal sort and print functions:
1. table for proper spellings and abbreviations of genus
I too suffer Kath's problem
2. table for vendors names, addresses, email, website, phone etc
nice to know where to go back or who to avoid
all link to THE list of plants.

The plant list sorts like Bobs with a click so I can look at or print
all the Catts or in our case it is usually all the Paphs and Phrags
to take shopping.

The ability to post pix in the database is there - the pix just made
it too big so now it is just a x box to say the pix is in the web
file.

I found taking the laptop out for inventory did not work. We were at
the point of getting a scanner the same label printer will print
barcodes for numbers. We had a number set that included the vendor
number as well as the plants number in the database.

John found a ThinkDB at one time that allowed access to be reduced to
PalmPDA sized database and it was very helpful during shopping trips.
It is so disconcerting to fall in love with a new plant only to get
home and find the reason your in love is because you already have 2.
G If you only learned to re-bloom them, you would have known.

I use colored tags for repot - this year is blue, last is yellow.
Anything in yellow needs it... anything in blue should be fresh.
I don't do updates well except for deaths, sales, purchases.
We are way - way behind on the photos and well be completely revamping
the gh this summer - the Phrags are taking over the west bench and all
plants in the way have to go.

Anyone got a good fern control. I don't know where they came from
except the staghorn but at least 3 ferns are making my gh home and
causing havoc with all things orchid.

SuE
http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/orchids


On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 15:22:39 -0400, "Diana Kulaga"
wrote:
Okay. Back to Excel, and off we go.

Diana





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