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Boystrup Pb, ann,... 06-06-2003 08:44 PM

Sad news, good news and questions all in one message
 
First the sad news.
* Today my first ever Bulbophyllum died. Leaving me only one which doesn't
seem to want to grow
* Secondly I am about to become an uncle. That's the good news. I think!!!!
Most children seem afraid of mee because I so big. (hight 1,93m.)

Now to the questions:
*I bought 2 paph's this week: A paph. King Arthur and a paph grattrixianum.
I bought them for just ?17.
For some time now I have been making a file and looking for pictures of my
orchids to but in it until I can make my own pic's. Using books, asking
permision on the net, friends ...
But I can't find one of these 2 plants, so if anyone could help me please???
I'm not going to publisch anything, I just use the file to look up what the
flowers look like, pests they've had...

* Also I fell in love with an orchid last Christmas. A thelymitra variegata
208 and 199 from Australia. If there has ever been an orchid with a perfect
colour it must be a Thelymitra. If I could just live in Australia!!!!!
I found the pic's on the orchid mall. Now ever sinds I have contacted
several growers in Europe and one in Australia. But none of them has ever
had or seen this orchid. Please if anyone knows were I might be able to find
one without braking any laws, tell me, please, please, please.

To end this with a piece of advice to all the men out there. An orchid is
like a great woman. Beauty on the outside and the inside, and when you find
the perfect one, you can never let them go.

Peter




K Barrett 07-06-2003 04:22 AM

Sad news, good news and questions all in one message
 
The secret to bulbophyllums is to remember that they have roots with very
little velamen on them. Velamen traps and holds the day's moisture for the
plant to use at a later time. Hence Bulbophyllums need/want more of a daily
introduction to water than something like a Cattleya would. Cattleyas - for
example - can take some drying out because the velamen traps and holds
moisture, like a sponge. Think of it this way. If velamen was an anatomical
feature equivalent to breasts, Bulbophyllums would be Twiggy and Cattleyas
would be Jane Mansfield (or insert the name of whatever heroin-chic model
currently in vogue and Anna-Nicole Smith). So you can visualize how
deficient in velamen poor Bulbophyllums are. You gotta keep most of these
babies evenly moist, but still with air to the roots. A difficult balancing
act indeed. If your remaining Bulbophyllum doesn't want to grow for you try
a bit more water, try to make sure it stays above 60F at night and try a
*bit* more light (as for Cattleyas).

K Barrett

"Boystrup Pb, ann,..." wrote in message
.be...
First the sad news.
* Today my first ever Bulbophyllum died. Leaving me only one which doesn't
seem to want to grow
* Secondly I am about to become an uncle. That's the good news. I

think!!!!
Most children seem afraid of mee because I so big. (hight 1,93m.)

Now to the questions:
*I bought 2 paph's this week: A paph. King Arthur and a paph

grattrixianum.
I bought them for just ?17.
For some time now I have been making a file and looking for pictures of my
orchids to but in it until I can make my own pic's. Using books, asking
permision on the net, friends ...
But I can't find one of these 2 plants, so if anyone could help me

please???
I'm not going to publisch anything, I just use the file to look up what

the
flowers look like, pests they've had...

* Also I fell in love with an orchid last Christmas. A thelymitra

variegata
208 and 199 from Australia. If there has ever been an orchid with a

perfect
colour it must be a Thelymitra. If I could just live in Australia!!!!!
I found the pic's on the orchid mall. Now ever sinds I have contacted
several growers in Europe and one in Australia. But none of them has ever
had or seen this orchid. Please if anyone knows were I might be able to

find
one without braking any laws, tell me, please, please, please.

To end this with a piece of advice to all the men out there. An orchid is
like a great woman. Beauty on the outside and the inside, and when you

find
the perfect one, you can never let them go.

Peter






sneff 07-06-2003 04:22 AM

Sad news, good news and questions all in one message
 

"K Barrett" wrote in message
news:eD9Ea.890048$Zo.202493@sccrnsc03...
The secret to bulbophyllums is to remember that they have roots with very
little velamen on them. Velamen traps and holds the day's moisture for the
plant to use at a later time. Hence Bulbophyllums need/want more of a

daily
introduction to water than something like a Cattleya would. Cattleyas -

for
example - can take some drying out because the velamen traps and holds
moisture, like a sponge. Think of it this way. If velamen was an

anatomical
feature equivalent to breasts, Bulbophyllums would be Twiggy and

Cattleyas
would be Jane Mansfield (or insert the name of whatever heroin-chic model
currently in vogue and Anna-Nicole Smith). So you can visualize how
deficient in velamen poor Bulbophyllums are. You gotta keep most of these
babies evenly moist, but still with air to the roots. A difficult

balancing
act indeed. If your remaining Bulbophyllum doesn't want to grow for you

try
a bit more water, try to make sure it stays above 60F at night and try a
*bit* more light (as for Cattleyas).

K Barrett



K Barrett,

I found your "anatomical feature equivalent to breasts" analogy just
absolutely fascinating, and at first - it made perfect sense to me. Things
started to fall apart for me when you compared Cattleyas to Jane Mansfield,
and Bulbophyllums to Twiggy. You see, I've always salivated over Jane's
fulsome, milk-fed figure - but I don't care for Cattleyas. On the other
hand - Bulbophyllum's startling blooms have always enticed me just as much
as Twiggy's threadbare frame left me cold. I feel all topsy-turvy, and even
more confused than before.

Perhaps if I get that old Jane Mansfield super-8 reel out of the cupboard it
will make things a tiny bit clearer.

END tongue in cheek

Matthew.



K Barrett 07-06-2003 05:32 PM

Sad news, good news and questions all in one message
 
"sneff" wrote in message
...

"K Barrett" wrote in message
news:eD9Ea.890048$Zo.202493@sccrnsc03...
The secret to bulbophyllums is to remember that they have roots with

very
little velamen on them. Velamen traps and holds the day's moisture for

the
plant to use at a later time. Hence Bulbophyllums need/want more of a

daily
introduction to water than something like a Cattleya would. Cattleyas -

for
example - can take some drying out because the velamen traps and holds
moisture, like a sponge. Think of it this way. If velamen was an

anatomical
feature equivalent to breasts, Bulbophyllums would be Twiggy and

Cattleyas
would be Jane Mansfield (or insert the name of whatever heroin-chic

model
currently in vogue and Anna-Nicole Smith). So you can visualize how
deficient in velamen poor Bulbophyllums are. You gotta keep most of

these
babies evenly moist, but still with air to the roots. A difficult

balancing
act indeed. If your remaining Bulbophyllum doesn't want to grow for you

try
a bit more water, try to make sure it stays above 60F at night and try a
*bit* more light (as for Cattleyas).

K Barrett



K Barrett,

I found your "anatomical feature equivalent to breasts" analogy just
absolutely fascinating, and at first - it made perfect sense to me. Things
started to fall apart for me when you compared Cattleyas to Jane

Mansfield,
and Bulbophyllums to Twiggy. You see, I've always salivated over Jane's
fulsome, milk-fed figure - but I don't care for Cattleyas. On the other
hand - Bulbophyllum's startling blooms have always enticed me just as much
as Twiggy's threadbare frame left me cold. I feel all topsy-turvy, and

even
more confused than before.

Perhaps if I get that old Jane Mansfield super-8 reel out of the cupboard

it
will make things a tiny bit clearer.

END tongue in cheek

Matthew.



Or you could watch her daughter on the US TV show 'Law and Order: Special
Victims Unit'. The show's producers usually show her wearing clingy T-shirt
type blouses under her jacket. I'd say she's somewhere between a Cattleya
and a Bulbophyllum. [*G*]

K Barrett



Dewitt 07-06-2003 05:44 PM

Sad news, good news and questions all in one message
 
On Sat, 07 Jun 2003 16:27:42 GMT, "K Barrett"
wrote:

Or you could watch her daughter on the US TV show 'Law and Order: Special
Victims Unit'. The show's producers usually show her wearing clingy T-shirt
type blouses under her jacket. I'd say she's somewhere between a Cattleya
and a Bulbophyllum. [*G*]

K Barrett


Hmmm. . . wonder if velamen implants would help bulbos. . .

deg

Wendy 07-06-2003 08:20 PM

Sad news, good news and questions all in one message
 

"Dewitt" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 07 Jun 2003 16:27:42 GMT, "K Barrett"
wrote:

Or you could watch her daughter on the US TV show 'Law and Order: Special
Victims Unit'. The show's producers usually show her wearing clingy

T-shirt
type blouses under her jacket. I'd say she's somewhere between a Cattleya
and a Bulbophyllum. [*G*]

K Barrett


Hmmm. . . wonder if velamen implants would help bulbos. . .

deg

(((LOL))) Such a sense of humour, Cheers Wendy



Diana Kulaga 07-06-2003 10:44 PM

Sad news, good news and questions all in one message
 
I love it.......Kathy, you're a gem. Bulbos are to boobs as Catts are to
???

LOL

Diana

"Wendy" wrote in message
news:pNqEa.63467$MJ5.46011@fed1read03...

"Dewitt" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 07 Jun 2003 16:27:42 GMT, "K Barrett"
wrote:

Or you could watch her daughter on the US TV show 'Law and Order:

Special
Victims Unit'. The show's producers usually show her wearing clingy

T-shirt
type blouses under her jacket. I'd say she's somewhere between a

Cattleya
and a Bulbophyllum. [*G*]

K Barrett


Hmmm. . . wonder if velamen implants would help bulbos. . .

deg

(((LOL))) Such a sense of humour, Cheers Wendy






K Barrett 08-06-2003 05:08 PM

Sad news, good news and questions all in one message
 
"Dewitt" wrote in message
...

Hmmm. . . wonder if velamen implants would help bulbos. . .

deg


Now *there's* a reason for gene splicing!! No more of these attempts to make
blue Phals!! Give us meaty Bulbos!!

K Barrett



Boystrup Pb, ann,... 08-06-2003 10:44 PM

Sad news, good news and questions all in one message
 
It has been a stimulating conversation so far. But what about the other
quetions? Are they also going to be compared with the female beauty or lack
off natural beauty.
Sencondly, Wendy what does "Lol" Mean. I have seen you use it a couple of
times and I'm curious.
Peter
"K Barrett" schreef in bericht
news:F6JEa.65220$d51.126100@sccrnsc01...
"Dewitt" wrote in message
...

Hmmm. . . wonder if velamen implants would help bulbos. . .

deg


Now *there's* a reason for gene splicing!! No more of these attempts to

make
blue Phals!! Give us meaty Bulbos!!

K Barrett





Diana Kulaga 08-06-2003 11:08 PM

Sad news, good news and questions all in one message
 
Peter,

LOL means 'laughing out loud' in netspeak.

Diana

"Boystrup Pb, ann,..." wrote in message
.be...
It has been a stimulating conversation so far. But what about the other
quetions? Are they also going to be compared with the female beauty or

lack
off natural beauty.
Sencondly, Wendy what does "Lol" Mean. I have seen you use it a couple of
times and I'm curious.
Peter
"K Barrett" schreef in bericht
news:F6JEa.65220$d51.126100@sccrnsc01...
"Dewitt" wrote in message
...

Hmmm. . . wonder if velamen implants would help bulbos. . .

deg


Now *there's* a reason for gene splicing!! No more of these attempts to

make
blue Phals!! Give us meaty Bulbos!!

K Barrett








Jerry Hoffmeister 09-06-2003 03:20 AM

Sad news, good news and questions all in one message
 
I had to giggle at this analogy... thinking about how incredibly complex the
anatomy you're talking about REALLY is. As a breastfeeding consultant, and
wife to an orchidist on this group (Jerry) I would like to point out that
big breasts, in a non-nursing woman (or any other lactating female) are a
consequence of the quantity and proportion of FAT in the breast. Or of
silicone, in the case of my sister in law. The fact that Anna-Nicole has
huge boobs doesn't mean that she has greater milk (or water) storage
capacity than a flat-chested woman. The question is whether A-N or Twiggy
get pregnant, how well does their body build up the glands that produce and
transport milk (the human parallel to velamen??) Cheers! ;) Betsy

"K Barrett" wrote in message
news:eD9Ea.890048$Zo.202493@sccrnsc03...
The secret to bulbophyllums is to remember that they have roots with very
little velamen on them. Velamen traps and holds the day's moisture for the
plant to use at a later time. Hence Bulbophyllums need/want more of a

daily
introduction to water than something like a Cattleya would. Cattleyas -

for
example - can take some drying out because the velamen traps and holds
moisture, like a sponge. Think of it this way. If velamen was an

anatomical
feature equivalent to breasts, Bulbophyllums would be Twiggy and

Cattleyas
would be Jane Mansfield (or insert the name of whatever heroin-chic model
currently in vogue and Anna-Nicole Smith). So you can visualize how
deficient in velamen poor Bulbophyllums are. You gotta keep most of these
babies evenly moist, but still with air to the roots. A difficult

balancing
act indeed. If your remaining Bulbophyllum doesn't want to grow for you

try
a bit more water, try to make sure it stays above 60F at night and try a
*bit* more light (as for Cattleyas).

K Barrett

"Boystrup Pb, ann,..." wrote in message
.be...
First the sad news.
* Today my first ever Bulbophyllum died. Leaving me only one which

doesn't
seem to want to grow
* Secondly I am about to become an uncle. That's the good news. I

think!!!!
Most children seem afraid of mee because I so big. (hight 1,93m.)

Now to the questions:
*I bought 2 paph's this week: A paph. King Arthur and a paph

grattrixianum.
I bought them for just ?17.
For some time now I have been making a file and looking for pictures of

my
orchids to but in it until I can make my own pic's. Using books, asking
permision on the net, friends ...
But I can't find one of these 2 plants, so if anyone could help me

please???
I'm not going to publisch anything, I just use the file to look up what

the
flowers look like, pests they've had...

* Also I fell in love with an orchid last Christmas. A thelymitra

variegata
208 and 199 from Australia. If there has ever been an orchid with a

perfect
colour it must be a Thelymitra. If I could just live in Australia!!!!!
I found the pic's on the orchid mall. Now ever sinds I have contacted
several growers in Europe and one in Australia. But none of them has

ever
had or seen this orchid. Please if anyone knows were I might be able to

find
one without braking any laws, tell me, please, please, please.

To end this with a piece of advice to all the men out there. An orchid

is
like a great woman. Beauty on the outside and the inside, and when you

find
the perfect one, you can never let them go.

Peter








Ray @ First Rays Orchids 09-06-2003 11:20 AM

Sad news, good news and questions all in one message
 
Finally! A subject I can really get into!

My Mom told me I stopped nursing at two weeks, which probably explains my
obsession and desire to make up for lost time!

Besides, it's the pseudobulbs that are the primary water-storage vehicles in
sympodial plants, so I'd say a more accurate, if less humorous - way to
explain the velamen thickness variation is related to the whole structure of
the plant, and the conditions they might naturally grow in. I like to think
of velamen as a means of moisture "capture and short-term storage," while
bulbs are for longer-term storage.

The bulbophyllum, having pseudobulbs, doesn't need to grab as much moisture
every time it's wetted, as it already has some stored. The vanda, on the
other hand, doesn't have pseudobulbs, so needs a better way to grab what it
can.

Sounds like and interesting experiment - grow bulbos in a lower-moisture
environment and see if the velamen gets thicker.
--

Ray Barkalow First Rays Orchids
http://www.firstrays.com
Secure Online Ordering & Lots of Free Info!


"Jerry Hoffmeister" wrote in message
news:Z5SEa.1180356$S_4.1205365@rwcrnsc53...
I had to giggle at this analogy... thinking about how incredibly complex

the
anatomy you're talking about REALLY is. As a breastfeeding consultant, and
wife to an orchidist on this group (Jerry) I would like to point out that
big breasts, in a non-nursing woman (or any other lactating female) are a
consequence of the quantity and proportion of FAT in the breast. Or of
silicone, in the case of my sister in law. The fact that Anna-Nicole has
huge boobs doesn't mean that she has greater milk (or water) storage
capacity than a flat-chested woman. The question is whether A-N or Twiggy
get pregnant, how well does their body build up the glands that produce

and
transport milk (the human parallel to velamen??) Cheers! ;) Betsy

"K Barrett" wrote in message
news:eD9Ea.890048$Zo.202493@sccrnsc03...
The secret to bulbophyllums is to remember that they have roots with

very
little velamen on them. Velamen traps and holds the day's moisture for

the
plant to use at a later time. Hence Bulbophyllums need/want more of a

daily
introduction to water than something like a Cattleya would. Cattleyas -

for
example - can take some drying out because the velamen traps and holds
moisture, like a sponge. Think of it this way. If velamen was an

anatomical
feature equivalent to breasts, Bulbophyllums would be Twiggy and

Cattleyas
would be Jane Mansfield (or insert the name of whatever heroin-chic

model
currently in vogue and Anna-Nicole Smith). So you can visualize how
deficient in velamen poor Bulbophyllums are. You gotta keep most of

these
babies evenly moist, but still with air to the roots. A difficult

balancing
act indeed. If your remaining Bulbophyllum doesn't want to grow for you

try
a bit more water, try to make sure it stays above 60F at night and try a
*bit* more light (as for Cattleyas).

K Barrett

"Boystrup Pb, ann,..." wrote in message
.be...
First the sad news.
* Today my first ever Bulbophyllum died. Leaving me only one which

doesn't
seem to want to grow
* Secondly I am about to become an uncle. That's the good news. I

think!!!!
Most children seem afraid of mee because I so big. (hight 1,93m.)

Now to the questions:
*I bought 2 paph's this week: A paph. King Arthur and a paph

grattrixianum.
I bought them for just ?17.
For some time now I have been making a file and looking for pictures

of
my
orchids to but in it until I can make my own pic's. Using books,

asking
permision on the net, friends ...
But I can't find one of these 2 plants, so if anyone could help me

please???
I'm not going to publisch anything, I just use the file to look up

what
the
flowers look like, pests they've had...

* Also I fell in love with an orchid last Christmas. A thelymitra

variegata
208 and 199 from Australia. If there has ever been an orchid with a

perfect
colour it must be a Thelymitra. If I could just live in Australia!!!!!
I found the pic's on the orchid mall. Now ever sinds I have contacted
several growers in Europe and one in Australia. But none of them has

ever
had or seen this orchid. Please if anyone knows were I might be able

to
find
one without braking any laws, tell me, please, please, please.

To end this with a piece of advice to all the men out there. An orchid

is
like a great woman. Beauty on the outside and the inside, and when you

find
the perfect one, you can never let them go.

Peter










Wendy 09-06-2003 01:56 PM

Sad news, good news and questions all in one message
 
Hello again Peter, I would like to get back to your questions.
For picture research, try using Google & click on images but you must have
the correct spelling.
Paphiopedilum KingArthur
http://hjem.get2net.dk/arne_larsen1/...r%2072-18w.jpg
Paphiopedilum gratrixianum
There are lots of photos.
Does your Bulbophyllum have another name?
You have Akerne-orchids in Belgium you could probably get culture info from
them.
Also Botanical Gardens of Belgium on the net.
Hope this helps.
Cheers Wendy

"Boystrup Pb, ann,..." wrote in message
.be...
First the sad news.
* Today my first ever Bulbophyllum died. Leaving me only one which doesn't
seem to want to grow
* Secondly I am about to become an uncle. That's the good news. I

think!!!!
Most children seem afraid of mee because I so big. (hight 1,93m.)

Now to the questions:
*I bought 2 paph's this week: A paph. King Arthur and a paph

grattrixianum.
I bought them for just ?17.
For some time now I have been making a file and looking for pictures of my
orchids to but in it until I can make my own pic's. Using books, asking
permision on the net, friends ...
But I can't find one of these 2 plants, so if anyone could help me

please???
I'm not going to publisch anything, I just use the file to look up what

the
flowers look like, pests they've had...

* Also I fell in love with an orchid last Christmas. A thelymitra

variegata
208 and 199 from Australia. If there has ever been an orchid with a

perfect
colour it must be a Thelymitra. If I could just live in Australia!!!!!
I found the pic's on the orchid mall. Now ever sinds I have contacted
several growers in Europe and one in Australia. But none of them has ever
had or seen this orchid. Please if anyone knows were I might be able to

find
one without braking any laws, tell me, please, please, please.

To end this with a piece of advice to all the men out there. An orchid is
like a great woman. Beauty on the outside and the inside, and when you

find
the perfect one, you can never let them go.

Peter






K Barrett 09-06-2003 04:44 PM

Sad news, good news and questions all in one message
 
Trust me, I've done this experiment several times already and have
reproduced my results each time, the plants just die! No increase in velamen
at all!

K Barrett

"Ray @ First Rays Orchids" wrote in message
...

Sounds like and interesting experiment - grow bulbos in a lower-moisture
environment and see if the velamen gets thicker.
--





K Barrett 09-06-2003 04:44 PM

Sad news, good news and questions all in one message
 
AAck!! silicon implants for bulbos.... the mind boggles! Next they'll be
wanting collagen injections so their little lips will waver better in the
breeze!

K Barrett

"Jerry Hoffmeister" wrote in message
news:Z5SEa.1180356$S_4.1205365@rwcrnsc53...
I had to giggle at this analogy... thinking about how incredibly complex

the
anatomy you're talking about REALLY is. As a breastfeeding consultant, and
wife to an orchidist on this group (Jerry) I would like to point out that
big breasts, in a non-nursing woman (or any other lactating female) are a
consequence of the quantity and proportion of FAT in the breast. Or of
silicone, in the case of my sister in law. The fact that Anna-Nicole has
huge boobs doesn't mean that she has greater milk (or water) storage
capacity than a flat-chested woman. The question is whether A-N or Twiggy
get pregnant, how well does their body build up the glands that produce

and
transport milk (the human parallel to velamen??) Cheers! ;) Betsy






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