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Shell91 11-09-2003 03:10 AM

Dendrobium
 
Well I went and did it. I went to Lowe's and they had a 4" dendrobium which
did not have the fancy pot the rest had so it was half price and a 10"
community pot which had one bloom left (also half price) so I bought them.
I noticed the community pot has at least 2 new plants coming up and looks
very healthy to me. The 4" also looks healthy. I will post some pictures
as soon as I get them uploaded from my camera. Any opinions and advice is
welcome.

I figured I would just jump in with both feet :)

Shell



Shell91 11-09-2003 04:03 AM

Dendrobium
 
The community pot is Dendrobium Ceaser Jac according to the tag I found
partially burried in the side.

Question: do I need to re-pot these or are they ok for now?

Shell


"Shell91" wrote in message
. ..
Well I went and did it. I went to Lowe's and they had a 4" dendrobium

which
did not have the fancy pot the rest had so it was half price and a 10"
community pot which had one bloom left (also half price) so I bought them.
I noticed the community pot has at least 2 new plants coming up and looks
very healthy to me. The 4" also looks healthy. I will post some pictures
as soon as I get them uploaded from my camera. Any opinions and advice is
welcome.

I figured I would just jump in with both feet :)

Shell





Gene Schurg 11-09-2003 12:32 PM

Dendrobium
 
Shell,

I doubt that is is a community pot from Lowes. Look closely...are you sure
its not one plant that has numerous pseudobulbs? Many of the smaller
dendrobiums will fill a pot with small pseudobulbs and to a casual observer
would look like a compot.

If you divide it up you may have to wait several years before you see
flowers again. If it was my plant I would check the medium for rot and
consider leaving grow for a while in the current pot.

Good Growing,
Gene





"Shell91" wrote in message
. ..
The community pot is Dendrobium Ceaser Jac according to the tag I found
partially burried in the side.

Question: do I need to re-pot these or are they ok for now?

Shell


"Shell91" wrote in message
. ..
Well I went and did it. I went to Lowe's and they had a 4" dendrobium

which
did not have the fancy pot the rest had so it was half price and a 10"
community pot which had one bloom left (also half price) so I bought

them.
I noticed the community pot has at least 2 new plants coming up and

looks
very healthy to me. The 4" also looks healthy. I will post some

pictures
as soon as I get them uploaded from my camera. Any opinions and advice

is
welcome.

I figured I would just jump in with both feet :)

Shell







Shell 11-09-2003 01:12 PM

Dendrobium
 
It's possible it isn't a community pot, I am pretty new at this and
I'm not sure how to tell. The pot does have three of the clips used
for holding the orchid in the pot. I plan to let it dry out a good
bit since it rained on the orchid before I got it and then check the
potting medium to make sure it's ok. If it needs it I will re-pot in
the same pot but I don't want to divide it until it fills thw pot a
good deal more. There are some pictures on the
alt.binaries.pictures.orchids newsgroup

Shell

On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 11:31:29 GMT, "Gene Schurg"
wrote:

Shell,

I doubt that is is a community pot from Lowes. Look closely...are you sure
its not one plant that has numerous pseudobulbs? Many of the smaller
dendrobiums will fill a pot with small pseudobulbs and to a casual observer
would look like a compot.

If you divide it up you may have to wait several years before you see
flowers again. If it was my plant I would check the medium for rot and
consider leaving grow for a while in the current pot.

Good Growing,
Gene





"Shell91" wrote in message
...
The community pot is Dendrobium Ceaser Jac according to the tag I found
partially burried in the side.

Question: do I need to re-pot these or are they ok for now?

Shell


"Shell91" wrote in message
. ..
Well I went and did it. I went to Lowe's and they had a 4" dendrobium

which
did not have the fancy pot the rest had so it was half price and a 10"
community pot which had one bloom left (also half price) so I bought

them.
I noticed the community pot has at least 2 new plants coming up and

looks
very healthy to me. The 4" also looks healthy. I will post some

pictures
as soon as I get them uploaded from my camera. Any opinions and advice

is
welcome.

I figured I would just jump in with both feet :)

Shell







Diana Kulaga 11-09-2003 10:18 PM

Dendrobium
 
Shell,

I saw your photos in abpo before I read your post here. Did respond over
there, but from what I see of the plants, they are normal Dends. A
community pot contains seedlings that have been grown in flask; the next
step after compot is individual pots. You won't find blooming in a compot,
as the plants are too young. As to dividing the plants you have, I wouldn't
just yet. When dividing, it's a good idea to give each division 4
pseudobulbs (the canes are the pseudobulbs in this case).

Take care.

Diana



Shell91 12-09-2003 01:51 AM

Dendrobium
 
Thanks for the information, I think I will leave them as they are and just
re-pot into rock of some kind. I don't want to divide until absolutely
necessary since I have ne idea how to go about that. I definitely want to
get rid of the sphagnum moss in the small pot though so it will get a new
and better pot the same size as the one it's now in. Lowe's also had a
gorgeous paph that I am going to go see if it's still there and get it too
:)

Shell


"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
.net...
Shell,

I saw your photos in abpo before I read your post here. Did respond over
there, but from what I see of the plants, they are normal Dends. A
community pot contains seedlings that have been grown in flask; the next
step after compot is individual pots. You won't find blooming in a

compot,
as the plants are too young. As to dividing the plants you have, I

wouldn't
just yet. When dividing, it's a good idea to give each division 4
pseudobulbs (the canes are the pseudobulbs in this case).

Take care.

Diana





Gene Schurg 12-09-2003 02:39 AM

Dendrobium
 
Shell,

Be careful buying discount plants. Often they have sat on the shelves for a
long time in less than perfect conditions.

You would be better served buying healthy unbloomed plants from a reputable
orchid grower. If there is something special that you can't find somewhere
else then go for it....but....for common generic plants it's not worth the
work.

Good Growing,
Gene




"Shell91" wrote in message
. ..
Thanks for the information, I think I will leave them as they are and just
re-pot into rock of some kind. I don't want to divide until absolutely
necessary since I have ne idea how to go about that. I definitely want to
get rid of the sphagnum moss in the small pot though so it will get a new
and better pot the same size as the one it's now in. Lowe's also had a
gorgeous paph that I am going to go see if it's still there and get it too
:)

Shell


"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
.net...
Shell,

I saw your photos in abpo before I read your post here. Did respond

over
there, but from what I see of the plants, they are normal Dends. A
community pot contains seedlings that have been grown in flask; the

next
step after compot is individual pots. You won't find blooming in a

compot,
as the plants are too young. As to dividing the plants you have, I

wouldn't
just yet. When dividing, it's a good idea to give each division 4
pseudobulbs (the canes are the pseudobulbs in this case).

Take care.

Diana







Diana Kulaga 12-09-2003 03:21 AM

Dendrobium
 
Oh, Gene, he's hooked! No amount of good advice will help! Another one
bites the dust.

Diana

"Gene Schurg" wrote in message
nk.net...
Shell,

Be careful buying discount plants. Often they have sat on the shelves for

a
long time in less than perfect conditions.

You would be better served buying healthy unbloomed plants from a

reputable
orchid grower. If there is something special that you can't find

somewhere
else then go for it....but....for common generic plants it's not worth the
work.

Good Growing,
Gene




"Shell91" wrote in message
. ..
Thanks for the information, I think I will leave them as they are and

just
re-pot into rock of some kind. I don't want to divide until absolutely
necessary since I have ne idea how to go about that. I definitely want

to
get rid of the sphagnum moss in the small pot though so it will get a

new
and better pot the same size as the one it's now in. Lowe's also had a
gorgeous paph that I am going to go see if it's still there and get it

too
:)

Shell


"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
.net...
Shell,

I saw your photos in abpo before I read your post here. Did respond

over
there, but from what I see of the plants, they are normal Dends. A
community pot contains seedlings that have been grown in flask; the

next
step after compot is individual pots. You won't find blooming in a

compot,
as the plants are too young. As to dividing the plants you have, I

wouldn't
just yet. When dividing, it's a good idea to give each division 4
pseudobulbs (the canes are the pseudobulbs in this case).

Take care.

Diana









Diana Kulaga 12-09-2003 03:29 AM

Dendrobium
 
Oh, Gene, he's hooked! No amount of good advice will help! Another one
bites the dust.

Diana

"Gene Schurg" wrote in message
nk.net...
Shell,

Be careful buying discount plants. Often they have sat on the shelves for

a
long time in less than perfect conditions.

You would be better served buying healthy unbloomed plants from a

reputable
orchid grower. If there is something special that you can't find

somewhere
else then go for it....but....for common generic plants it's not worth the
work.

Good Growing,
Gene




"Shell91" wrote in message
. ..
Thanks for the information, I think I will leave them as they are and

just
re-pot into rock of some kind. I don't want to divide until absolutely
necessary since I have ne idea how to go about that. I definitely want

to
get rid of the sphagnum moss in the small pot though so it will get a

new
and better pot the same size as the one it's now in. Lowe's also had a
gorgeous paph that I am going to go see if it's still there and get it

too
:)

Shell


"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
.net...
Shell,

I saw your photos in abpo before I read your post here. Did respond

over
there, but from what I see of the plants, they are normal Dends. A
community pot contains seedlings that have been grown in flask; the

next
step after compot is individual pots. You won't find blooming in a

compot,
as the plants are too young. As to dividing the plants you have, I

wouldn't
just yet. When dividing, it's a good idea to give each division 4
pseudobulbs (the canes are the pseudobulbs in this case).

Take care.

Diana









Shell91 12-09-2003 06:57 AM

Dendrobium
 
LOL actually it's she but who's keeping track?

Shell


"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
.net...
Oh, Gene, he's hooked! No amount of good advice will help! Another one
bites the dust.

Diana

"Gene Schurg" wrote in message
nk.net...
Shell,

Be careful buying discount plants. Often they have sat on the shelves

for
a
long time in less than perfect conditions.

You would be better served buying healthy unbloomed plants from a

reputable
orchid grower. If there is something special that you can't find

somewhere
else then go for it....but....for common generic plants it's not worth

the
work.

Good Growing,
Gene




"Shell91" wrote in message
. ..
Thanks for the information, I think I will leave them as they are and

just
re-pot into rock of some kind. I don't want to divide until

absolutely
necessary since I have ne idea how to go about that. I definitely

want
to
get rid of the sphagnum moss in the small pot though so it will get a

new
and better pot the same size as the one it's now in. Lowe's also had

a
gorgeous paph that I am going to go see if it's still there and get it

too
:)

Shell


"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
.net...
Shell,

I saw your photos in abpo before I read your post here. Did respond

over
there, but from what I see of the plants, they are normal Dends. A
community pot contains seedlings that have been grown in flask; the

next
step after compot is individual pots. You won't find blooming in a
compot,
as the plants are too young. As to dividing the plants you have, I
wouldn't
just yet. When dividing, it's a good idea to give each division 4
pseudobulbs (the canes are the pseudobulbs in this case).

Take care.

Diana











Shell91 12-09-2003 06:57 AM

Dendrobium
 
These looked very healthy to me and I do love a bargain so...what can I say?
:)

Shell


"Gene Schurg" wrote in message
nk.net...
Shell,

Be careful buying discount plants. Often they have sat on the shelves for

a
long time in less than perfect conditions.

You would be better served buying healthy unbloomed plants from a

reputable
orchid grower. If there is something special that you can't find

somewhere
else then go for it....but....for common generic plants it's not worth the
work.

Good Growing,
Gene




"Shell91" wrote in message
. ..
Thanks for the information, I think I will leave them as they are and

just
re-pot into rock of some kind. I don't want to divide until absolutely
necessary since I have ne idea how to go about that. I definitely want

to
get rid of the sphagnum moss in the small pot though so it will get a

new
and better pot the same size as the one it's now in. Lowe's also had a
gorgeous paph that I am going to go see if it's still there and get it

too
:)

Shell


"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
.net...
Shell,

I saw your photos in abpo before I read your post here. Did respond

over
there, but from what I see of the plants, they are normal Dends. A
community pot contains seedlings that have been grown in flask; the

next
step after compot is individual pots. You won't find blooming in a

compot,
as the plants are too young. As to dividing the plants you have, I

wouldn't
just yet. When dividing, it's a good idea to give each division 4
pseudobulbs (the canes are the pseudobulbs in this case).

Take care.

Diana









Diana Kulaga 13-09-2003 02:02 AM

Dendrobium
 
Sorry, She Shell!

Diana



Shell91 13-09-2003 08:12 AM

Dendrobium
 
No problem :)
Shell


"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
nk.net...
Sorry, She Shell!

Diana





Gene Schurg 13-09-2003 02:32 PM

Dendrobium
 
but does....

She, Shell, sells sea shells by the sea shore?

I couldn't resist!
Gene




"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
nk.net...
Sorry, She Shell!

Diana





Wendy 13-09-2003 03:42 PM

Dendrobium
 
(((LOL))) You guys are so funny....Welcome to the group Shell, we aren't
always like this
I think it's the moon?
I often wonder why people with such pretty names use nick names?
Cheers Wendy (who has a sister that uses Mich)

"Gene Schurg" wrote in message
nk.net...
but does....

She, Shell, sells sea shells by the sea shore?

I couldn't resist!
Gene




"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
nk.net...
Sorry, She Shell!

Diana







Shell91 13-09-2003 04:22 PM

Dendrobium
 
LOL at least you didn't quote the old Beatles song "Michelle" People have
been doing that to me ever since that song came out and they all think
they're being orriginal :)

Shell

And I just collect shells I don't sell them :)


"Gene Schurg" wrote in message
nk.net...
but does....

She, Shell, sells sea shells by the sea shore?

I couldn't resist!
Gene




"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
nk.net...
Sorry, She Shell!

Diana







Shell91 13-09-2003 04:22 PM

Dendrobium
 
Hmmm, maybe it's sniffing too many orchids? ...NAH :)

Shell


"Wendy" wrote in message
news:RXF8b.127917$kP.47526@fed1read03...
(((LOL))) You guys are so funny....Welcome to the group Shell, we aren't
always like this
I think it's the moon?
I often wonder why people with such pretty names use nick names?
Cheers Wendy (who has a sister that uses Mich)

"Gene Schurg" wrote in message
nk.net...
but does....

She, Shell, sells sea shells by the sea shore?

I couldn't resist!
Gene




"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
nk.net...
Sorry, She Shell!

Diana









Ray 13-09-2003 05:42 PM

Dendrobium
 
My wife is a "Michele," too (note the "correct" spelling with one "L"), and
she just loves the Beatles song. Oh, she's "Chele" instead of "Shell."

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

.. . . . . . . . . . .
"Shell91" wrote in message
. ..
LOL at least you didn't quote the old Beatles song "Michelle" People have
been doing that to me ever since that song came out and they all think
they're being orriginal :)

Shell

And I just collect shells I don't sell them :)


"Gene Schurg" wrote in message
nk.net...
but does....

She, Shell, sells sea shells by the sea shore?

I couldn't resist!
Gene




"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
nk.net...
Sorry, She Shell!

Diana









Shell91 13-09-2003 06:12 PM

Dendrobium
 
HA :) One "L's" Unite :) I can't count the times I've been called Michael or
Mitchel, even in high school and college when I most obviously was not a guy

Shell


"Ray" wrote in message
...
My wife is a "Michele," too (note the "correct" spelling with one "L"),

and
she just loves the Beatles song. Oh, she's "Chele" instead of "Shell."

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

. . . . . . . . . . .
"Shell91" wrote in message
. ..
LOL at least you didn't quote the old Beatles song "Michelle" People

have
been doing that to me ever since that song came out and they all think
they're being orriginal :)

Shell

And I just collect shells I don't sell them :)


"Gene Schurg" wrote in message
nk.net...
but does....

She, Shell, sells sea shells by the sea shore?

I couldn't resist!
Gene




"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
nk.net...
Sorry, She Shell!

Diana











Diana Kulaga 13-09-2003 10:02 PM

Dendrobium
 
I knew you'd do it, Gene. Someone had to........

Diana


"Gene Schurg" wrote in message
nk.net...
but does....

She, Shell, sells sea shells by the sea shore?

I couldn't resist!
Gene




"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
nk.net...
Sorry, She Shell!

Diana







Diana Kulaga 13-09-2003 10:02 PM

Dendrobium
 
You guys are so funny....Welcome to the group Shell, we aren't always like
this I think it's the moon?

We're not?

As to nicknames, at one time I felt like having one, and said so to a guy
pal. He said "Okay, Vito". I still owe him for that one!

Diana (Who has a sister named Michelle, thank you very much, don't dare call
her by anything else. She's also bossy, but I love her anyway.)



mg 14-09-2003 05:02 PM

Dendrobium
 
Having just seen the movie 'Adaptation' two nights ago, Shell's comment
was pretty funny. For those that haven't seen it, the rare ghost orchid
turns out to be the source of a heroin-like drug, which John LaRouche
has figured out how to cultivate.


Shell91 wrote:
Hmmm, maybe it's sniffing too many orchids? ...NAH :)

Shell


"Wendy" wrote in message
news:RXF8b.127917$kP.47526@fed1read03...

(((LOL))) You guys are so funny....Welcome to the group Shell, we aren't
always like this
I think it's the moon?
I often wonder why people with such pretty names use nick names?
Cheers Wendy (who has a sister that uses Mich)

"Gene Schurg" wrote in message
link.net...

but does....

She, Shell, sells sea shells by the sea shore?

I couldn't resist!
Gene




"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
hlink.net...

Sorry, She Shell!

Diana









Susan Erickson 15-09-2003 02:22 AM

Dendrobium
 
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 05:34:57 GMT, "Shell91"
wrote:

These looked very healthy to me and I do love a bargain so...what can I say?
:)

Shell


Don"t let him get to you.
We have all done it. How else would we know it is not usually
worth the effort and time. G
SuE
http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php

Gene Schurg 15-09-2003 01:12 PM

Dendrobium
 
Guilty!

I started with lots of clearance plants. They do have a purpose. I use
them as give away plants for the office or neighbors. I figure that all
they want is the bloom and don't care about the breeding.

On the other side, you do have to be careful that you buy plants that match
your ability and culture. I have a couple of cymbidiums that were a "good
buy" that I have never been able to rebloom because the summer is hot and I
don't have a good cool place to over winter them. Now that the greenhouse
is full of stuff I love the cymbidiums are in danger of not coming in at all
this winter.

Another thing I've found is that Home Depot plants are expensive....even
when marked to 1/2 price. You could get a better quality plant from Al or
Ray from their websites that would would see blooms more often than nursing
a tired shelf worn plant.

Good Growing,
Gene




"Susan Erickson" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 05:34:57 GMT, "Shell91"
wrote:

These looked very healthy to me and I do love a bargain so...what can I

say?
:)

Shell


Don"t let him get to you.
We have all done it. How else would we know it is not usually
worth the effort and time. G
SuE
http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php




Susan Erickson 15-09-2003 03:02 PM

Dendrobium
 
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 12:09:41 GMT, "Gene Schurg"
wrote:

Guilty!
your ability and culture. I have a couple of cymbidiums that were a "good
buy" that I have never been able to rebloom because the summer is hot and I
don't have a good cool place to over winter them. Now that the greenhouse
is full of stuff I love the cymbidiums are in danger of not coming in at all
this winter.
Good Growing,
Gene


Gene -
Leave them out until you have snow on them. Do protect them
from killing frost, but not too well. YOu want the cold to hit.
I had a friend who watered in the afternoon with ice chips in an
attempt to get the chill into one that was too large to move
easily.

Get creative. Cool them at night and you might keep them longer.
Or ship them to our CA. contingent that seems to grow and bloom
everything.

SuE
http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php

dd 15-09-2003 09:43 PM

Dendrobium
 
I agree. As a newbie, I've found that clearance plants and free plants
have their purpose too: They're good for experimenting. For instance,
I've bought or accepted unfamiliar species to see how they would do in
my environment--if one flourishes, I buy more; if not, I don't. I've
also used these surplus plants as "lab rats" to see how tolerant my
other orchids might be of an insecticide, or a different growing
location indoors/outdoors, or a different watering method, or a new
media--like Prime Agra (a rousing success).

Now that I've started running out of room, I'm thinning out my
collection and giving some of the surplus plants to newbies who have
less experience than I do. They're happy and I don't feel wasteful.
BTW, for reasons that I don't understand, it's always the plants that I
care least about that seem to do the best--like the oncidiums with
rather drab flowers that bloom their heads off.


In article k.net,
Gene Schurg wrote:

Guilty!

I started with lots of clearance plants. They do have a purpose. I use
them as give away plants for the office or neighbors. I figure that all
they want is the bloom and don't care about the breeding.

On the other side, you do have to be careful that you buy plants that match
your ability and culture. I have a couple of cymbidiums that were a "good
buy" that I have never been able to rebloom because the summer is hot and I
don't have a good cool place to over winter them. Now that the greenhouse
is full of stuff I love the cymbidiums are in danger of not coming in at all
this winter.

Another thing I've found is that Home Depot plants are expensive....even
when marked to 1/2 price. You could get a better quality plant from Al or
Ray from their websites that would would see blooms more often than nursing
a tired shelf worn plant.

Good Growing,
Gene




"Susan Erickson" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 05:34:57 GMT, "Shell91"
wrote:

These looked very healthy to me and I do love a bargain so...what can I

say?
:)

Shell


Don"t let him get to you.
We have all done it. How else would we know it is not usually
worth the effort and time. G
SuE
http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php





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