Digital Camera Question
 

All,

Our digital Kodak 260 is now way behind the curve, and we're considering a
new one. Frank did a bunch of research and found the Panasonic DMC-FZ10K
Lumix. 4 mp, zoom up to 12x, and an optical image stabilizer, among other
features. It's priced around $600, which makes puts it in reasonable range
for us.

Anyone familiar with this camera? I'm sure that if we wanted to spend a
fortune there are better ones available, but we'd like to stay in this
range. I'm particularly interested in getting detail so I can photograph
some of the smaller orchids.

Any thoughts welcome.

Diana

Digital Camera Question
 

I'm not familiar with this cmera but it sounds like a good deal to me. If
you're looking to do extreme closeups check and see what the minimum
distance lens to object is. I have a Umax Power Cam 3660 that I got on eBay
for right at $300. It will go up to 6mp and has all sorts of settings that
I'm still learning. Regular pictures are set at 3.5mp I think and I can get
within 4 inches of an object for extreme closeups.

The higher the mega pixel the better the quality should you ever want to
have really large prints made of your pictures.

Now if I coud just figure out a way keep my hands from shaking when I'm
trying to take a picture :)

I really like my digital camera but I still prefer my telephoto lenses and
35mm Pentax that's about 25 years old. I just wish film developing wasn't
so expensive.

Shell


"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
hlink.net...
All,

Our digital Kodak 260 is now way behind the curve, and we're considering a
new one. Frank did a bunch of research and found the Panasonic DMC-FZ10K
Lumix. 4 mp, zoom up to 12x, and an optical image stabilizer, among other
features. It's priced around $600, which makes puts it in reasonable
range
for us.

Anyone familiar with this camera? I'm sure that if we wanted to spend a
fortune there are better ones available, but we'd like to stay in this
range. I'm particularly interested in getting detail so I can photograph
some of the smaller orchids.

Any thoughts welcome.

Diana

Digital Camera Question
 

I'm not familiar with this cmera but it sounds like a good deal to me. If
you're looking to do extreme closeups check and see what the minimum
distance lens to object is. I have a Umax Power Cam 3660 that I got on eBay
for right at $300. It will go up to 6mp and has all sorts of settings that
I'm still learning. Regular pictures are set at 3.5mp I think and I can get
within 4 inches of an object for extreme closeups.

The higher the mega pixel the better the quality should you ever want to
have really large prints made of your pictures.

Now if I coud just figure out a way keep my hands from shaking when I'm
trying to take a picture :)

I really like my digital camera but I still prefer my telephoto lenses and
35mm Pentax that's about 25 years old. I just wish film developing wasn't
so expensive.

Shell


"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
hlink.net...
All,

Our digital Kodak 260 is now way behind the curve, and we're considering a
new one. Frank did a bunch of research and found the Panasonic DMC-FZ10K
Lumix. 4 mp, zoom up to 12x, and an optical image stabilizer, among other
features. It's priced around $600, which makes puts it in reasonable
range
for us.

Anyone familiar with this camera? I'm sure that if we wanted to spend a
fortune there are better ones available, but we'd like to stay in this
range. I'm particularly interested in getting detail so I can photograph
some of the smaller orchids.

Any thoughts welcome.

Diana

Digital Camera Question
 

I'm not familiar with this cmera but it sounds like a good deal to me. If
you're looking to do extreme closeups check and see what the minimum
distance lens to object is. I have a Umax Power Cam 3660 that I got on eBay
for right at $300. It will go up to 6mp and has all sorts of settings that
I'm still learning. Regular pictures are set at 3.5mp I think and I can get
within 4 inches of an object for extreme closeups.

The higher the mega pixel the better the quality should you ever want to
have really large prints made of your pictures.

Now if I coud just figure out a way keep my hands from shaking when I'm
trying to take a picture :)

I really like my digital camera but I still prefer my telephoto lenses and
35mm Pentax that's about 25 years old. I just wish film developing wasn't
so expensive.

Shell


"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
hlink.net...
All,

Our digital Kodak 260 is now way behind the curve, and we're considering a
new one. Frank did a bunch of research and found the Panasonic DMC-FZ10K
Lumix. 4 mp, zoom up to 12x, and an optical image stabilizer, among other
features. It's priced around $600, which makes puts it in reasonable
range
for us.

Anyone familiar with this camera? I'm sure that if we wanted to spend a
fortune there are better ones available, but we'd like to stay in this
range. I'm particularly interested in getting detail so I can photograph
some of the smaller orchids.

Any thoughts welcome.

Diana

Digital Camera Question
 

I'm not familiar with this cmera but it sounds like a good deal to me. If
you're looking to do extreme closeups check and see what the minimum
distance lens to object is. I have a Umax Power Cam 3660 that I got on eBay
for right at $300. It will go up to 6mp and has all sorts of settings that
I'm still learning. Regular pictures are set at 3.5mp I think and I can get
within 4 inches of an object for extreme closeups.

The higher the mega pixel the better the quality should you ever want to
have really large prints made of your pictures.

Now if I coud just figure out a way keep my hands from shaking when I'm
trying to take a picture :)

I really like my digital camera but I still prefer my telephoto lenses and
35mm Pentax that's about 25 years old. I just wish film developing wasn't
so expensive.

Shell


"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
hlink.net...
All,

Our digital Kodak 260 is now way behind the curve, and we're considering a
new one. Frank did a bunch of research and found the Panasonic DMC-FZ10K
Lumix. 4 mp, zoom up to 12x, and an optical image stabilizer, among other
features. It's priced around $600, which makes puts it in reasonable
range
for us.

Anyone familiar with this camera? I'm sure that if we wanted to spend a
fortune there are better ones available, but we'd like to stay in this
range. I'm particularly interested in getting detail so I can photograph
some of the smaller orchids.

Any thoughts welcome.

Diana

Digital Camera Question
 

"Diana Kulaga" writes:
range. I'm particularly interested in getting detail so I can photograph
some of the smaller orchids.

Then you are interested in the optics. What can the optics do in
close-range situations? I have a separate macro button on my digital
camera. You may want to have something similar.

For big prints of an extremely nice flower you want a high
resolution. I have a 4 Mpixel camera. That goes up to about double the
area of the regular prints you get from a 35mm film, then you start
seeing pixels clearly in the print. 10MP or more is needed to do full
A4 prints in good quality.

Also check the price of the memory solutions. How much does it cost to
buy extra storage for this camera compared to others? Digital cameras
are usually equipped with a joke of a storage chip. You will, sooner
or later, buy more storage. If this costs you double the amount you
saved compared to a little more pricey model, then you have still
spent more money than if you had bought the pricier camera with the
less expensive storage.

Geir

Digital Camera Question
 

"Diana Kulaga" writes:
range. I'm particularly interested in getting detail so I can photograph
some of the smaller orchids.

Then you are interested in the optics. What can the optics do in
close-range situations? I have a separate macro button on my digital
camera. You may want to have something similar.

For big prints of an extremely nice flower you want a high
resolution. I have a 4 Mpixel camera. That goes up to about double the
area of the regular prints you get from a 35mm film, then you start
seeing pixels clearly in the print. 10MP or more is needed to do full
A4 prints in good quality.

Also check the price of the memory solutions. How much does it cost to
buy extra storage for this camera compared to others? Digital cameras
are usually equipped with a joke of a storage chip. You will, sooner
or later, buy more storage. If this costs you double the amount you
saved compared to a little more pricey model, then you have still
spent more money than if you had bought the pricier camera with the
less expensive storage.

Geir

Digital Camera Question
 

"Diana Kulaga" writes:
range. I'm particularly interested in getting detail so I can photograph
some of the smaller orchids.

Then you are interested in the optics. What can the optics do in
close-range situations? I have a separate macro button on my digital
camera. You may want to have something similar.

For big prints of an extremely nice flower you want a high
resolution. I have a 4 Mpixel camera. That goes up to about double the
area of the regular prints you get from a 35mm film, then you start
seeing pixels clearly in the print. 10MP or more is needed to do full
A4 prints in good quality.

Also check the price of the memory solutions. How much does it cost to
buy extra storage for this camera compared to others? Digital cameras
are usually equipped with a joke of a storage chip. You will, sooner
or later, buy more storage. If this costs you double the amount you
saved compared to a little more pricey model, then you have still
spent more money than if you had bought the pricier camera with the
less expensive storage.

Geir

Digital Camera Question
 

Diana -
I'm not familiar with that one either, though I'd have to ask how much
of that 12x zoom is optical? If that represents 4x optical and 3x digital,
the digital multiplier isn't really useful when it comes to closeups.
I asked for help from the group, too, and came up with either the Sony
F717 or the Nikon Coolpix 5700. I'm very pleased with the latter, which I
bought from an internet dealer for $721 after a $100 mfr.'s rebate. It has a
5 mp sensor and an 8x optical zoom. I have found it a more complex system to
learn than the Sony, but have no other complaints.
Tom
Walnut Creek, CA, USA
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From: "Diana Kulaga"
Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net
Reply-To: "Diana Kulaga"
Newsgroups: rec.gardens.orchids
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:24:10 GMT
Subject: Digital Camera Question

All,

Our digital Kodak 260 is now way behind the curve, and we're considering a
new one. Frank did a bunch of research and found the Panasonic DMC-FZ10K
Lumix. 4 mp, zoom up to 12x, and an optical image stabilizer, among other
features. It's priced around $600, which makes puts it in reasonable range
for us.

Anyone familiar with this camera? I'm sure that if we wanted to spend a
fortune there are better ones available, but we'd like to stay in this
range. I'm particularly interested in getting detail so I can photograph
some of the smaller orchids.

Any thoughts welcome.

Diana

Digital Camera Question
 

Diana -
I'm not familiar with that one either, though I'd have to ask how much
of that 12x zoom is optical? If that represents 4x optical and 3x digital,
the digital multiplier isn't really useful when it comes to closeups.
I asked for help from the group, too, and came up with either the Sony
F717 or the Nikon Coolpix 5700. I'm very pleased with the latter, which I
bought from an internet dealer for $721 after a $100 mfr.'s rebate. It has a
5 mp sensor and an 8x optical zoom. I have found it a more complex system to
learn than the Sony, but have no other complaints.
Tom
Walnut Creek, CA, USA
(To reply by e-mail, remove APPENDIX)

From: "Diana Kulaga"
Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net
Reply-To: "Diana Kulaga"
Newsgroups: rec.gardens.orchids
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:24:10 GMT
Subject: Digital Camera Question

All,

Our digital Kodak 260 is now way behind the curve, and we're considering a
new one. Frank did a bunch of research and found the Panasonic DMC-FZ10K
Lumix. 4 mp, zoom up to 12x, and an optical image stabilizer, among other
features. It's priced around $600, which makes puts it in reasonable range
for us.

Anyone familiar with this camera? I'm sure that if we wanted to spend a
fortune there are better ones available, but we'd like to stay in this
range. I'm particularly interested in getting detail so I can photograph
some of the smaller orchids.

Any thoughts welcome.

Diana

Digital Camera Question
 

Did you compare its pictures side by side with other cameras (and even your
old one) on the 'Amazing Comparometer? Why anyone would consider a purchase
and *not* look at actual images the camera produces is beyond me.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM

You'll thank me later.

K Barrett

"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
hlink.net...
All,

Our digital Kodak 260 is now way behind the curve, and we're considering a
new one. Frank did a bunch of research and found the Panasonic DMC-FZ10K
Lumix. 4 mp, zoom up to 12x, and an optical image stabilizer, among other
features. It's priced around $600, which makes puts it in reasonable
range
for us.

Anyone familiar with this camera? I'm sure that if we wanted to spend a
fortune there are better ones available, but we'd like to stay in this
range. I'm particularly interested in getting detail so I can photograph
some of the smaller orchids.

Any thoughts welcome.

Diana

Digital Camera Question
 

Look out for the optical & digital ,optical is actually the photo you viewed
& took ,all digital is basically the image zoomed.The higher the optical
lens the better!Also remember that higher mpix wont always give you the
better quality pic.K Barrett is right before you buy look at the quality of
the pics,you will be supprised!
kenty
"K Barrett" wrote in message
news:ZoUxb.147124$Dw6.611358@attbi_s02...
Did you compare its pictures side by side with other cameras (and even
your
old one) on the 'Amazing Comparometer? Why anyone would consider a
purchase
and *not* look at actual images the camera produces is beyond me.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM

You'll thank me later.

K Barrett

"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
hlink.net...
All,

Our digital Kodak 260 is now way behind the curve, and we're considering
a
new one. Frank did a bunch of research and found the Panasonic
DMC-FZ10K
Lumix. 4 mp, zoom up to 12x, and an optical image stabilizer, among
other
features. It's priced around $600, which makes puts it in reasonable
range
for us.

Anyone familiar with this camera? I'm sure that if we wanted to spend a
fortune there are better ones available, but we'd like to stay in this
range. I'm particularly interested in getting detail so I can
photograph
some of the smaller orchids.

Any thoughts welcome.

Diana

Digital Camera Question
 

I heard that the pentax optio 555 is really great. Lets u take really close
macro shots and 3D shots too.


Jon
"kenty ;-)" wrote in message
...
Look out for the optical & digital ,optical is actually the photo you
viewed
& took ,all digital is basically the image zoomed.The higher the optical
lens the better!Also remember that higher mpix wont always give you the
better quality pic.K Barrett is right before you buy look at the quality
of
the pics,you will be supprised!
kenty
"K Barrett" wrote in message
news:ZoUxb.147124$Dw6.611358@attbi_s02...
Did you compare its pictures side by side with other cameras (and even
your
old one) on the 'Amazing Comparometer? Why anyone would consider a
purchase
and *not* look at actual images the camera produces is beyond me.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM

You'll thank me later.

K Barrett

"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
hlink.net...
All,

Our digital Kodak 260 is now way behind the curve, and we're
considering
a
new one. Frank did a bunch of research and found the Panasonic
DMC-FZ10K
Lumix. 4 mp, zoom up to 12x, and an optical image stabilizer, among
other
features. It's priced around $600, which makes puts it in reasonable
range
for us.

Anyone familiar with this camera? I'm sure that if we wanted to spend
a
fortune there are better ones available, but we'd like to stay in this
range. I'm particularly interested in getting detail so I can
photograph
some of the smaller orchids.

Any thoughts welcome.

Diana

Digital Camera Question
 

Thanks, everyone. Now some responses from me:

Now if I coud just figure out a way keep my hands from shaking when I'm
trying to take a picture :)

That's why we like the idea of the optical image stabilizer!

Then you are interested in the optics. What can the optics do in
close-range situations? I have a separate macro button on my digital
camera. You may want to have something similar.

The camera in question has a macro button, along with a bunch of other
optional modes. Or, it can be used as simply point and shoot.

Also check the price of the memory solutions. How much does it cost to
buy extra storage for this camera compared to others? Digital cameras
are usually equipped with a joke of a storage chip

Yeah, I know. Frank checked, and the cost is not prohibitive.

I'm not familiar with that one either, though I'd have to ask how much
of that 12x zoom is optical? If that represents 4x optical and 3x digital,
the digital multiplier isn't really useful when it comes to closeups.

Actually, I underestimated the zoom. The 12x is all optical. Capability
with digital is 36x. Sounds great.

Did you compare its pictures side by side with other cameras (and even your
old one) on the 'Amazing Comparometer? Why anyone would consider a purchase
and *not* look at actual images the camera produces is beyond me.

Thanks for that URL; I was not aware of it. However, this camera isn't up
there yet. Not surprising, since it just came out in October. Frank found
a couple of places where he could view photos taken with it. Pretty grand,
especially compared to our old one, which is 6 or 7 years old.

Look out for the optical & digital ,optical is actually the photo you
viewed
& took ,all digital is basically the image zoomed.The higher the optical
lens the better!Also remember that higher mpix wont always give you the
better quality pic.

It has 4 mp; see above for optical specs.

I heard that the pentax optio 555 is really great. Lets u take really close
macro shots and 3D shots too.

I checked that out as you suggested. It's a neat one, too.

To sum up on my end, as Frank did more checking he found that this model is
jumping off the shelves. Based on what I've seen, I'm not surprised. As I
said originally, I know there are better cameras out there, but we can't
justify the prices. Especially since we need to upgrade one of our
computers, too. My laptop is fine, but our IBM needs replacing. You do the
numbers!

Thanks again, everyone. RGO came through as usual.

Diana

Digital Camera Question
 

Sounds like a really nice camera :)

Shell


"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
hlink.net...
Thanks, everyone. Now some responses from me:

Now if I coud just figure out a way keep my hands from shaking when I'm
trying to take a picture :)

That's why we like the idea of the optical image stabilizer!

Then you are interested in the optics. What can the optics do in
close-range situations? I have a separate macro button on my digital
camera. You may want to have something similar.

The camera in question has a macro button, along with a bunch of other
optional modes. Or, it can be used as simply point and shoot.

Also check the price of the memory solutions. How much does it cost to
buy extra storage for this camera compared to others? Digital cameras
are usually equipped with a joke of a storage chip

Yeah, I know. Frank checked, and the cost is not prohibitive.

I'm not familiar with that one either, though I'd have to ask how much
of that 12x zoom is optical? If that represents 4x optical and 3x digital,
the digital multiplier isn't really useful when it comes to closeups.

Actually, I underestimated the zoom. The 12x is all optical. Capability
with digital is 36x. Sounds great.

Did you compare its pictures side by side with other cameras (and even
your
old one) on the 'Amazing Comparometer? Why anyone would consider a
purchase
and *not* look at actual images the camera produces is beyond me.

Thanks for that URL; I was not aware of it. However, this camera isn't
up
there yet. Not surprising, since it just came out in October. Frank
found
a couple of places where he could view photos taken with it. Pretty
grand,
especially compared to our old one, which is 6 or 7 years old.

Look out for the optical & digital ,optical is actually the photo you
viewed
& took ,all digital is basically the image zoomed.The higher the optical
lens the better!Also remember that higher mpix wont always give you the
better quality pic.

It has 4 mp; see above for optical specs.

I heard that the pentax optio 555 is really great. Lets u take really
close
macro shots and 3D shots too.

I checked that out as you suggested. It's a neat one, too.

To sum up on my end, as Frank did more checking he found that this model
is
jumping off the shelves. Based on what I've seen, I'm not surprised. As
I
said originally, I know there are better cameras out there, but we can't
justify the prices. Especially since we need to upgrade one of our
computers, too. My laptop is fine, but our IBM needs replacing. You do
the
numbers!

Thanks again, everyone. RGO came through as usual.

Diana

Digital Camera Question
 

As the former store manager for a large camera chain and a digital
camera user let me give you some insight. If you intend to do a lot of
close up work then you need to be concerned with the "macro"
capabilities of the camera AND the ability to "manually focus" the
camera.The ability to use a "cable release" with the camera is
critical because it eliminates the hand shake factor.You also must put
the camera on a tripod when doing macro work. This being said my
camera of choice( and the one I own) is the Minolta Dimage 7i Ilove it
and it gives me all the features of a SLR camera (except changeable
lenses, has great zoom, and the ability to use macro with the lens set
to either wide angle or telephoto ( most cameras anly allow macro with
lens set to telephoto). It is 5 MP, allows you to add external flash,
take a cable release and allows manual focus. Hope this helps.

Larry

Digital Camera Question
 

Ditto what Larry says about macro. and the ability to manually focus.

K Barrett

"larry flink" wrote in message
om...
As the former store manager for a large camera chain and a digital
camera user let me give you some insight. If you intend to do a lot of
close up work then you need to be concerned with the "macro"
capabilities of the camera AND the ability to "manually focus" the
camera.The ability to use a "cable release" with the camera is
critical because it eliminates the hand shake factor.You also must put
the camera on a tripod when doing macro work. This being said my
camera of choice( and the one I own) is the Minolta Dimage 7i Ilove it
and it gives me all the features of a SLR camera (except changeable
lenses, has great zoom, and the ability to use macro with the lens set
to either wide angle or telephoto ( most cameras anly allow macro with
lens set to telephoto). It is 5 MP, allows you to add external flash,
take a cable release and allows manual focus. Hope this helps.

Larry

Digital Camera Question
 

Got it. This camera has both, plus the optical stabilizer, which
compensates for the "hand shakes". As for the tripod, we use that when
looking for closeups.

Thanks!

Diana

"K Barrett" wrote in message
news:94qyb.172532$Dw6.666403@attbi_s02...
Ditto what Larry says about macro. and the ability to manually focus.

K Barrett

"larry flink" wrote in message
om...
As the former store manager for a large camera chain and a digital
camera user let me give you some insight. If you intend to do a lot of
close up work then you need to be concerned with the "macro"
capabilities of the camera AND the ability to "manually focus" the
camera.The ability to use a "cable release" with the camera is
critical because it eliminates the hand shake factor.You also must put
the camera on a tripod when doing macro work. This being said my
camera of choice( and the one I own) is the Minolta Dimage 7i Ilove it
and it gives me all the features of a SLR camera (except changeable
lenses, has great zoom, and the ability to use macro with the lens set
to either wide angle or telephoto ( most cameras anly allow macro with
lens set to telephoto). It is 5 MP, allows you to add external flash,
take a cable release and allows manual focus. Hope this helps.

Larry

Digital Camera Question
 

The price does sound reasonable but I think you can get the Olympus C-5050
for around that price.

It is a much better camera and the super macro function is awesome.


"Shell" wrote in message
m...
I'm not familiar with this cmera but it sounds like a good deal to me. If
you're looking to do extreme closeups check and see what the minimum
distance lens to object is. I have a Umax Power Cam 3660 that I got on
eBay
for right at $300. It will go up to 6mp and has all sorts of settings
that
I'm still learning. Regular pictures are set at 3.5mp I think and I can
get
within 4 inches of an object for extreme closeups.

The higher the mega pixel the better the quality should you ever want to
have really large prints made of your pictures.

Now if I coud just figure out a way keep my hands from shaking when I'm
trying to take a picture :)

I really like my digital camera but I still prefer my telephoto lenses and
35mm Pentax that's about 25 years old. I just wish film developing wasn't
so expensive.

Shell


"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
hlink.net...
All,

Our digital Kodak 260 is now way behind the curve, and we're considering
a
new one. Frank did a bunch of research and found the Panasonic
DMC-FZ10K
Lumix. 4 mp, zoom up to 12x, and an optical image stabilizer, among
other
features. It's priced around $600, which makes puts it in reasonable
range
for us.

Anyone familiar with this camera? I'm sure that if we wanted to spend a
fortune there are better ones available, but we'd like to stay in this
range. I'm particularly interested in getting detail so I can
photograph
some of the smaller orchids.

Any thoughts welcome.

Diana

Digital Camera Question
 

On 30 Nov 2003 03:44:24 -0800, (larry flink) wrote in
Message-Id: :

The ability to use a "cable release" with the camera is
critical because it eliminates the hand shake factor.

The use of a remote control in place of a cable release is acceptable
or even better at reducing shake blur.

Digital Camera Question
 

On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:26:58 +1100, "Bolero"
wrote in Message-Id: :

super macro function is awesome

How close will the Olympus C-5050 focus in macro mode?

Digital Camera Question
 

This Comparometer is fun! I entered the
Canon EOS-1Ds .......$7169.00
& the
Sony CyberShot DSC-F828 .......$980.00 (new)

Now with my old eyes, my monitor & very little photography knowledge,
I hardly see any difference?

I would rather have the cheaper camera & use the $$ on my orchids! *g*
--
Cheers Wendy
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"K Barrett" wrote in message
news:ZoUxb.147124$Dw6.611358@attbi_s02...
Did you compare its pictures side by side with other cameras (and even
your
old one) on the 'Amazing Comparometer? Why anyone would consider a
purchase
and *not* look at actual images the camera produces is beyond me.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM

You'll thank me later.

K Barrett

"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
hlink.net...
All,

Our digital Kodak 260 is now way behind the curve, and we're considering
a
new one. Frank did a bunch of research and found the Panasonic
DMC-FZ10K
Lumix. 4 mp, zoom up to 12x, and an optical image stabilizer, among
other
features. It's priced around $600, which makes puts it in reasonable
range
for us.

Anyone familiar with this camera? I'm sure that if we wanted to spend a
fortune there are better ones available, but we'd like to stay in this
range. I'm particularly interested in getting detail so I can
photograph
some of the smaller orchids.

Any thoughts welcome.

Diana

Digital Camera Question
 

It saved me from making a bad mistake.

K

"Wendy" wrote in message
news:YNJyb.43612$m24.18257@fed1read02...
This Comparometer is fun! I entered the
Canon EOS-1Ds .......$7169.00
& the
Sony CyberShot DSC-F828 .......$980.00 (new)

Now with my old eyes, my monitor & very little photography knowledge,
I hardly see any difference?

I would rather have the cheaper camera & use the $$ on my orchids! *g*
--
Cheers Wendy
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"K Barrett" wrote in message
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Did you compare its pictures side by side with other cameras (and even
your
old one) on the 'Amazing Comparometer? Why anyone would consider a
purchase
and *not* look at actual images the camera produces is beyond me.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM

You'll thank me later.

K Barrett

"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
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All,

Our digital Kodak 260 is now way behind the curve, and we're
considering
a
new one. Frank did a bunch of research and found the Panasonic
DMC-FZ10K
Lumix. 4 mp, zoom up to 12x, and an optical image stabilizer, among
other
features. It's priced around $600, which makes puts it in reasonable
range
for us.

Anyone familiar with this camera? I'm sure that if we wanted to spend
a
fortune there are better ones available, but we'd like to stay in this
range. I'm particularly interested in getting detail so I can
photograph
some of the smaller orchids.

Any thoughts welcome.

Diana

Digital Camera Question
 

Good eyes or bad eyes, you're seeing the image on a computer monitor, which
drastically degrades the quality.

If you plan on only PC displays, don't waste your money. If you plan on
printing and/or enlarging, it's a whole different matter.

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

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"Wendy" wrote in message
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This Comparometer is fun! I entered the
Canon EOS-1Ds .......$7169.00
& the
Sony CyberShot DSC-F828 .......$980.00 (new)

Now with my old eyes, my monitor & very little photography knowledge,
I hardly see any difference?

I would rather have the cheaper camera & use the $$ on my orchids! *g*
--
Cheers Wendy
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"K Barrett" wrote in message
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Did you compare its pictures side by side with other cameras (and even
your
old one) on the 'Amazing Comparometer? Why anyone would consider a
purchase
and *not* look at actual images the camera produces is beyond me.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM

You'll thank me later.

K Barrett

"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
hlink.net...
All,

Our digital Kodak 260 is now way behind the curve, and we're
considering
a
new one. Frank did a bunch of research and found the Panasonic
DMC-FZ10K
Lumix. 4 mp, zoom up to 12x, and an optical image stabilizer, among
other
features. It's priced around $600, which makes puts it in reasonable
range
for us.

Anyone familiar with this camera? I'm sure that if we wanted to spend
a
fortune there are better ones available, but we'd like to stay in this
range. I'm particularly interested in getting detail so I can
photograph
some of the smaller orchids.

Any thoughts welcome.

Diana

Digital Camera Question
 

All the digicams I have seen have far less *usable* stop range than
film. 160 Film has about 8 stops and CCDs have half that. On shots
with high contrast (sunlight & shadow), the distortion (what they call
"pixel blooming") is downright ugly. Also low light noise is ugly too
during long exposures. I use analog film for these shots. Something to
be aware of. If the picture is to be low contrast then digital is great.


George

Digital Camera Question
 

Larry Dighera wrote in message . ..
On 30 Nov 2003 03:44:24 -0800, (larry flink) wrote in
Message-Id: :

The ability to use a "cable release" with the camera is
critical because it eliminates the hand shake factor.

The use of a remote control in place of a cable release is acceptable
or even better at reducing shake blur.

that is true except that most remote controls are "infrared" and must
be used from in front of the camera in order for the sensors to
communicate to each other. That is hard to do if you are working close
up.

Larry

Digital Camera Question
 

It's considered to be "Super Macro" mode and the quality is better than a
lot of digital slr's.

The distance I don't exactly recall but I know someone who uses SLR's
professionally but uses the Olympus C-5050 when he needs to use a macro
function.

It has to be the best standard type macro on the market........if that's
important to you and let's face it......if you grow orchids then it is
important.

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:26:58 +1100, "Bolero"
wrote in Message-Id: :

super macro function is awesome

How close will the Olympus C-5050 focus in macro mode?

Digital Camera Question
 

The point that digital pictures display differently between computers or
over the web is a given, Ray. The reason for digital images is to be
transported and stored electronically. No one is saying digital images are
better than film.

Within Wendy's 'closed system' of her computer, her monitor and her eyes
(aged or not), she CAN see a difference amongst digital images produced by
various digital cameras.

That's the point.

Consumers can be taught digital quality and purchase the best quality they
can afford, and that's why I like the Amazing Comparometer. You learn what
constitutes a decent image within your closed system and apply that
knowledge to your next purchase. Sort of like wine tasting. If you think
screw tops is all that's out there then yes, a fine wine is wasted on your
palate. If you think one audio system sounds pretty much like another, then
yes, stick with your boom box. If you think one automobile is pretty much
like another then stay with your Toyota. You'll be happy.

K Barrett

"Ray" wrote in message
...
Good eyes or bad eyes, you're seeing the image on a computer monitor,
which
drastically degrades the quality.

If you plan on only PC displays, don't waste your money. If you plan on
printing and/or enlarging, it's a whole different matter.

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

. . . . . . . . . . .
"Wendy" wrote in message
news:YNJyb.43612$m24.18257@fed1read02...
This Comparometer is fun! I entered the
Canon EOS-1Ds .......$7169.00
& the
Sony CyberShot DSC-F828 .......$980.00 (new)

Now with my old eyes, my monitor & very little photography knowledge,
I hardly see any difference?

I would rather have the cheaper camera & use the $$ on my orchids! *g*
--
Cheers Wendy
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"K Barrett" wrote in message
news:ZoUxb.147124$Dw6.611358@attbi_s02...
Did you compare its pictures side by side with other cameras (and even
your
old one) on the 'Amazing Comparometer? Why anyone would consider a
purchase
and *not* look at actual images the camera produces is beyond me.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM

You'll thank me later.

K Barrett

"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
hlink.net...
All,

Our digital Kodak 260 is now way behind the curve, and we're
considering
a
new one. Frank did a bunch of research and found the Panasonic
DMC-FZ10K
Lumix. 4 mp, zoom up to 12x, and an optical image stabilizer, among
other
features. It's priced around $600, which makes puts it in
reasonable
range
for us.

Anyone familiar with this camera? I'm sure that if we wanted to
spend
a
fortune there are better ones available, but we'd like to stay in
this
range. I'm particularly interested in getting detail so I can
photograph
some of the smaller orchids.

Any thoughts welcome.

Diana