Humidity!
 

In article ,
Bolero wrote:
FIne for what?


Getting the air above winter-dry and making the orchid less
uncomfortable.

40% is below the ideal in any sense of the word.


Ideal, yes, "achievable by mere mortals who don't own a greenhouse", no.

Humidity trays don't work in my opinion either.


This is flatly untrue. One can reach %40 humidity given
humidity trays and some pebbles (which help with the surface
area that exposes the water).

--
-john

February 28 1997: Last day libraries could order catalogue cards
from the Library of Congress.

Humidity!
 

Again, didn't know I was dealing with people who couldn't grow outside and
that the question was targetted at only those people.

It is still less than ideal......

Are you saying that those that own a greenhouse are more than mere mortals?
I paid hardly anything for mine, but then again my climate allows for it.

"John M. Gamble" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Bolero wrote:
FIne for what?


Getting the air above winter-dry and making the orchid less
uncomfortable.

40% is below the ideal in any sense of the word.


Ideal, yes, "achievable by mere mortals who don't own a greenhouse", no.

Humidity trays don't work in my opinion either.


This is flatly untrue. One can reach %40 humidity given
humidity trays and some pebbles (which help with the surface
area that exposes the water).

--
-john

February 28 1997: Last day libraries could order catalogue cards
from the Library of Congress.

Humidity!
 

Again, didn't know I was dealing with people who couldn't grow outside and
that the question was targetted at only those people.

It is still less than ideal......

Are you saying that those that own a greenhouse are more than mere mortals?
I paid hardly anything for mine, but then again my climate allows for it.

"John M. Gamble" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Bolero wrote:
FIne for what?


Getting the air above winter-dry and making the orchid less
uncomfortable.

40% is below the ideal in any sense of the word.


Ideal, yes, "achievable by mere mortals who don't own a greenhouse", no.

Humidity trays don't work in my opinion either.


This is flatly untrue. One can reach %40 humidity given
humidity trays and some pebbles (which help with the surface
area that exposes the water).

--
-john

February 28 1997: Last day libraries could order catalogue cards
from the Library of Congress.

Humidity!
 

40% will probably be at the lower end of the scale, the humidity ,will
obviously rise at night.I grow in a loft on a largish tray with clay pebbles
for humidity,at the end of the day when the heating has been on humidity
falls to around 40/45% rising upto around 60% sometimes higher.I spray every
morning with a fine mist,which instantly raises the humidity & by the end of
the day the plants have dried off for the night .This is obviously harder to
do when you grow on a windowsill or similar.Humidity is hard to maintain
were ever you grow,once you know how low & high humidity gets in your
situation you tend to stop worrying about it & get on with your routine.
Happy New Year to Everyone:-)
Kenty
"Bolero" wrote in message
u...
Again, didn't know I was dealing with people who couldn't grow outside and
that the question was targetted at only those people.

It is still less than ideal......

Are you saying that those that own a greenhouse are more than mere
mortals?
I paid hardly anything for mine, but then again my climate allows for it.

"John M. Gamble" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Bolero wrote:
FIne for what?


Getting the air above winter-dry and making the orchid less
uncomfortable.

40% is below the ideal in any sense of the word.


Ideal, yes, "achievable by mere mortals who don't own a greenhouse", no.

Humidity trays don't work in my opinion either.


This is flatly untrue. One can reach %40 humidity given
humidity trays and some pebbles (which help with the surface
area that exposes the water).

--
-john

February 28 1997: Last day libraries could order catalogue cards
from the Library of Congress.

Humidity!
 

40% will probably be at the lower end of the scale, the humidity ,will
obviously rise at night.I grow in a loft on a largish tray with clay pebbles
for humidity,at the end of the day when the heating has been on humidity
falls to around 40/45% rising upto around 60% sometimes higher.I spray every
morning with a fine mist,which instantly raises the humidity & by the end of
the day the plants have dried off for the night .This is obviously harder to
do when you grow on a windowsill or similar.Humidity is hard to maintain
were ever you grow,once you know how low & high humidity gets in your
situation you tend to stop worrying about it & get on with your routine.
Happy New Year to Everyone:-)
Kenty
"Bolero" wrote in message
u...
Again, didn't know I was dealing with people who couldn't grow outside and
that the question was targetted at only those people.

It is still less than ideal......

Are you saying that those that own a greenhouse are more than mere
mortals?
I paid hardly anything for mine, but then again my climate allows for it.

"John M. Gamble" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Bolero wrote:
FIne for what?


Getting the air above winter-dry and making the orchid less
uncomfortable.

40% is below the ideal in any sense of the word.


Ideal, yes, "achievable by mere mortals who don't own a greenhouse", no.

Humidity trays don't work in my opinion either.


This is flatly untrue. One can reach %40 humidity given
humidity trays and some pebbles (which help with the surface
area that exposes the water).

--
-john

February 28 1997: Last day libraries could order catalogue cards
from the Library of Congress.

Humidity!
 

Good Point!

Happy New Year to you too.


"kenty ;-)" wrote in message
...
40% will probably be at the lower end of the scale, the humidity ,will
obviously rise at night.I grow in a loft on a largish tray with clay
pebbles
for humidity,at the end of the day when the heating has been on humidity
falls to around 40/45% rising upto around 60% sometimes higher.I spray
every
morning with a fine mist,which instantly raises the humidity & by the end
of
the day the plants have dried off for the night .This is obviously harder
to
do when you grow on a windowsill or similar.Humidity is hard to maintain
were ever you grow,once you know how low & high humidity gets in your
situation you tend to stop worrying about it & get on with your routine.
Happy New Year to Everyone:-)
Kenty
"Bolero" wrote in message
u...
Again, didn't know I was dealing with people who couldn't grow outside
and
that the question was targetted at only those people.

It is still less than ideal......

Are you saying that those that own a greenhouse are more than mere
mortals?
I paid hardly anything for mine, but then again my climate allows for
it.

"John M. Gamble" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Bolero wrote:
FIne for what?


Getting the air above winter-dry and making the orchid less
uncomfortable.

40% is below the ideal in any sense of the word.


Ideal, yes, "achievable by mere mortals who don't own a greenhouse",
no.

Humidity trays don't work in my opinion either.


This is flatly untrue. One can reach %40 humidity given
humidity trays and some pebbles (which help with the surface
area that exposes the water).

--
-john

February 28 1997: Last day libraries could order catalogue cards
from the Library of Congress.

Humidity!
 

Good Point!

Happy New Year to you too.


"kenty ;-)" wrote in message
...
40% will probably be at the lower end of the scale, the humidity ,will
obviously rise at night.I grow in a loft on a largish tray with clay
pebbles
for humidity,at the end of the day when the heating has been on humidity
falls to around 40/45% rising upto around 60% sometimes higher.I spray
every
morning with a fine mist,which instantly raises the humidity & by the end
of
the day the plants have dried off for the night .This is obviously harder
to
do when you grow on a windowsill or similar.Humidity is hard to maintain
were ever you grow,once you know how low & high humidity gets in your
situation you tend to stop worrying about it & get on with your routine.
Happy New Year to Everyone:-)
Kenty
"Bolero" wrote in message
u...
Again, didn't know I was dealing with people who couldn't grow outside
and
that the question was targetted at only those people.

It is still less than ideal......

Are you saying that those that own a greenhouse are more than mere
mortals?
I paid hardly anything for mine, but then again my climate allows for
it.

"John M. Gamble" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Bolero wrote:
FIne for what?


Getting the air above winter-dry and making the orchid less
uncomfortable.

40% is below the ideal in any sense of the word.


Ideal, yes, "achievable by mere mortals who don't own a greenhouse",
no.

Humidity trays don't work in my opinion either.


This is flatly untrue. One can reach %40 humidity given
humidity trays and some pebbles (which help with the surface
area that exposes the water).

--
-john

February 28 1997: Last day libraries could order catalogue cards
from the Library of Congress.

Humidity!
 

Thank you everyone!

I must say that I grow all my plant in S/H culture and I`m wondering if
humidity is an issue with that method of culture.

My pots are on wooden shelve with fluorescent light. During the day, the
humidity goes aroud 40 to 45 % and at night goes up to 55 %.
Should I be concerned? Should I put all my pots on trays with water knowing
they are already in S/H culture????

Thanks

Claude

Happy New Year to all!
Bonne et Heureuse Année à Tous!

Humidity!
 

Thank you everyone!

I must say that I grow all my plant in S/H culture and I`m wondering if
humidity is an issue with that method of culture.

My pots are on wooden shelve with fluorescent light. During the day, the
humidity goes aroud 40 to 45 % and at night goes up to 55 %.
Should I be concerned? Should I put all my pots on trays with water knowing
they are already in S/H culture????

Thanks

Claude

Happy New Year to all!
Bonne et Heureuse Année à Tous!

Humidity!
 

"Bolero" wrote in message
u...
I couldn't tell you what "home" growers get because in this country most
of
us grow our plants outside and try to maintain ideal conditions.

Oh, where are you from, Bolero?

Me, I dream of someday in the future owning a house with a garden and being
able to afford a greenhouse within commuting distance of Washington, DC (US)
/ Northern Virginia. For now, my orchids will have to be satisfied with 4
north-facing windows supplemented by grow lamps in a rented 1.5 bedroom
apartment. And they are doing well, not ideal, but well enough to be a great
joy in my life.

Happy New Year!
Joanna

Humidity!
 

"Bolero" wrote in message
u...
I couldn't tell you what "home" growers get because in this country most
of
us grow our plants outside and try to maintain ideal conditions.

Oh, where are you from, Bolero?

Me, I dream of someday in the future owning a house with a garden and being
able to afford a greenhouse within commuting distance of Washington, DC (US)
/ Northern Virginia. For now, my orchids will have to be satisfied with 4
north-facing windows supplemented by grow lamps in a rented 1.5 bedroom
apartment. And they are doing well, not ideal, but well enough to be a great
joy in my life.

Happy New Year!
Joanna

Humidity!
 

I for one will disagree with that.

The very best results are achieved with humidity above 60%, there is no way
you can achieve great results with 40%.

The plants will survive and may well flower but not as well as they can.

"J Fortuna" wrote in message
...

Most culture sheets for Phals (or Paphs) that I have seen say something
like
"humidity of 50% or higher is ideal". However, Phals are known for being
able to adapt to sub-ideal conditions (and even thrive in them), so I
would
think that 40% humidity is 'good enough' (or will anyone object to
that?).
One related thing that I have read is that good air movement becomes more
important with higher humidity.

Joanna

"Claude" wrote in message
. ..
Hello everyone!

What is the best percentage of humidity to grow Phal and Paph!

I just bought an hygrometer and it shows 40% of relative humidity. Is
this
good?


Thanks

Claude

P.S : Happy New year, Bonne Année

Humidity!
 

I wasn't replying on behalf of people growing on a window sill.

I will replying on behalf on what the plant would prefer to have.

The best growers I know maintain humidity in their green houses at 70% or
more for Phals or Paphs.

I couldn't tell you what "home" growers get because in this country most of
us grow our plants outside and try to maintain ideal conditions.

"J Fortuna" wrote in message
...
Sorry for unintentional double post, and I just noticed Boleros reply that
indead objects to my 'good enough' understanding. I would think that for
those of us who are growing Phals on windowsills at home and not in
greenhouses, achieving 70-80% humidity is not really an option. Has anyone
out there been living in a home in 70-80% humidity?

Joanna

"J Fortuna" wrote in message
...

Most culture sheets for Phals (or Paphs) that I have seen say something
like
"humidity of 50% or higher is ideal". However, Phals are known for being
able to adapt to sub-ideal conditions (and even thrive in them), so I
would
think that 40% humidity is 'good enough' (or will anyone object to
that?).
One related thing that I have read is that good air movement becomes
more
important with higher humidity.

Joanna

"Claude" wrote in message
. ..
Hello everyone!

What is the best percentage of humidity to grow Phal and Paph!

I just bought an hygrometer and it shows 40% of relative humidity. Is
this
good?


Thanks

Claude

P.S : Happy New year, Bonne Année

Humidity!
 

I for one will disagree with that.

The very best results are achieved with humidity above 60%, there is no way
you can achieve great results with 40%.

The plants will survive and may well flower but not as well as they can.

"J Fortuna" wrote in message
...

Most culture sheets for Phals (or Paphs) that I have seen say something
like
"humidity of 50% or higher is ideal". However, Phals are known for being
able to adapt to sub-ideal conditions (and even thrive in them), so I
would
think that 40% humidity is 'good enough' (or will anyone object to
that?).
One related thing that I have read is that good air movement becomes more
important with higher humidity.

Joanna

"Claude" wrote in message
. ..
Hello everyone!

What is the best percentage of humidity to grow Phal and Paph!

I just bought an hygrometer and it shows 40% of relative humidity. Is
this
good?


Thanks

Claude

P.S : Happy New year, Bonne Année

Humidity!
 

FIne for what?

40% is below the ideal in any sense of the word.

Humidity trays don't work in my opinion either.

"Tom Randy" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 16:20:05 -0500, Claude wrote:

Hello everyone!

What is the best percentage of humidity to grow Phal and Paph!

I just bought an hygrometer and it shows 40% of relative humidity. Is
this good?


Thanks

Claude

P.S : Happy New year, Bonne Année


It's fine, if you can go a little bit higher it would be slightly better.
A humidity tray or humidifier would help. 40 is fine however.