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Natural Hybrids Help Needed
I'm putting together a piece on how orchids are named, or should I say the
way the names are written, and need some examples of natural hybrids, both inter-species and intergeneric. I believe that Paph X wellesleyanum (concolor x godefroyae) is an inter-specific example, but I can't think of any intergenerics. Anyone know any good examples? -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! .. . . . . . . . . . . |
Natural Hybrids Help Needed
Straight out of "The Handbook on Orchid Nomenclature and Registration" 4th
edition 1993 Page 4 under The names of Natural Hybrids of Orchids there are two examples cited: "x Laeliocattleya leeana 'Picardy' is the cultivar name of a cultivar of the natural intergeneric hybrid between Cattleya loddigesii and Laelia pumila" "x Dactyglossum mixtum (Dactylorhiza fuchsii x Coeloglossum viride)" I think, somewhere in this book is a paragraph explaining which name takes precedence, the artificial grex name or natural hybrid name, depending on when the plant in question was identified as a natural hybrid versus when it was registered as an artificial hybrid, but I can't find it. "Ray" wrote in message ... I'm putting together a piece on how orchids are named, or should I say the way the names are written, and need some examples of natural hybrids, both inter-species and intergeneric. I believe that Paph X wellesleyanum (concolor x godefroyae) is an inter-specific example, but I can't think of any intergenerics. Anyone know any good examples? -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! . . . . . . . . . . . |
Natural Hybrids Help Needed
Straight out of "The Handbook on Orchid Nomenclature and Registration" 4th
edition 1993 Page 4 under The names of Natural Hybrids of Orchids there are two examples cited: "x Laeliocattleya leeana 'Picardy' is the cultivar name of a cultivar of the natural intergeneric hybrid between Cattleya loddigesii and Laelia pumila" "x Dactyglossum mixtum (Dactylorhiza fuchsii x Coeloglossum viride)" I think, somewhere in this book is a paragraph explaining which name takes precedence, the artificial grex name or natural hybrid name, depending on when the plant in question was identified as a natural hybrid versus when it was registered as an artificial hybrid, but I can't find it. "Ray" wrote in message ... I'm putting together a piece on how orchids are named, or should I say the way the names are written, and need some examples of natural hybrids, both inter-species and intergeneric. I believe that Paph X wellesleyanum (concolor x godefroyae) is an inter-specific example, but I can't think of any intergenerics. Anyone know any good examples? -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! . . . . . . . . . . . |
Natural Hybrids Help Needed
Straight out of "The Handbook on Orchid Nomenclature and Registration" 4th
edition 1993 Page 4 under The names of Natural Hybrids of Orchids there are two examples cited: "x Laeliocattleya leeana 'Picardy' is the cultivar name of a cultivar of the natural intergeneric hybrid between Cattleya loddigesii and Laelia pumila" "x Dactyglossum mixtum (Dactylorhiza fuchsii x Coeloglossum viride)" I think, somewhere in this book is a paragraph explaining which name takes precedence, the artificial grex name or natural hybrid name, depending on when the plant in question was identified as a natural hybrid versus when it was registered as an artificial hybrid, but I can't find it. "Ray" wrote in message ... I'm putting together a piece on how orchids are named, or should I say the way the names are written, and need some examples of natural hybrids, both inter-species and intergeneric. I believe that Paph X wellesleyanum (concolor x godefroyae) is an inter-specific example, but I can't think of any intergenerics. Anyone know any good examples? -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! . . . . . . . . . . . |
Natural Hybrids Help Needed
Thanks, Al.
-- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! .. . . . . . . . . . . "Al" wrote in message ... Straight out of "The Handbook on Orchid Nomenclature and Registration" 4th edition 1993 Page 4 under The names of Natural Hybrids of Orchids there are two examples cited: "x Laeliocattleya leeana 'Picardy' is the cultivar name of a cultivar of the natural intergeneric hybrid between Cattleya loddigesii and Laelia pumila" "x Dactyglossum mixtum (Dactylorhiza fuchsii x Coeloglossum viride)" I think, somewhere in this book is a paragraph explaining which name takes precedence, the artificial grex name or natural hybrid name, depending on when the plant in question was identified as a natural hybrid versus when it was registered as an artificial hybrid, but I can't find it. "Ray" wrote in message ... I'm putting together a piece on how orchids are named, or should I say the way the names are written, and need some examples of natural hybrids, both inter-species and intergeneric. I believe that Paph X wellesleyanum (concolor x godefroyae) is an inter-specific example, but I can't think of any intergenerics. Anyone know any good examples? -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! . . . . . . . . . . . |
Natural Hybrids Help Needed
PS. The book also says "In horticultural orchid literature the
multiplication sign in front of 'hybrid-generic names' is usually omitted in both natural and artificial intergeneric hybrids." I suppose they are pointing out by this that this would not be true in botanical literature. "Ray" wrote in message ... Thanks, Al. -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! . . . . . . . . . . . "Al" wrote in message ... Straight out of "The Handbook on Orchid Nomenclature and Registration" 4th edition 1993 Page 4 under The names of Natural Hybrids of Orchids there are two examples cited: "x Laeliocattleya leeana 'Picardy' is the cultivar name of a cultivar of the natural intergeneric hybrid between Cattleya loddigesii and Laelia pumila" "x Dactyglossum mixtum (Dactylorhiza fuchsii x Coeloglossum viride)" I think, somewhere in this book is a paragraph explaining which name takes precedence, the artificial grex name or natural hybrid name, depending on when the plant in question was identified as a natural hybrid versus when it was registered as an artificial hybrid, but I can't find it. "Ray" wrote in message ... I'm putting together a piece on how orchids are named, or should I say the way the names are written, and need some examples of natural hybrids, both inter-species and intergeneric. I believe that Paph X wellesleyanum (concolor x godefroyae) is an inter-specific example, but I can't think of any intergenerics. Anyone know any good examples? -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! . . . . . . . . . . . |
Natural Hybrids Help Needed
Straight out of "The Handbook on Orchid Nomenclature and Registration" 4th
edition 1993 Page 4 under The names of Natural Hybrids of Orchids there are two examples cited: "x Laeliocattleya leeana 'Picardy' is the cultivar name of a cultivar of the natural intergeneric hybrid between Cattleya loddigesii and Laelia pumila" "x Dactyglossum mixtum (Dactylorhiza fuchsii x Coeloglossum viride)" I think, somewhere in this book is a paragraph explaining which name takes precedence, the artificial grex name or natural hybrid name, depending on when the plant in question was identified as a natural hybrid versus when it was registered as an artificial hybrid, but I can't find it. "Ray" wrote in message ... I'm putting together a piece on how orchids are named, or should I say the way the names are written, and need some examples of natural hybrids, both inter-species and intergeneric. I believe that Paph X wellesleyanum (concolor x godefroyae) is an inter-specific example, but I can't think of any intergenerics. Anyone know any good examples? -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! . . . . . . . . . . . |
Natural Hybrids Help Needed
Thanks, Al.
-- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! .. . . . . . . . . . . "Al" wrote in message ... Straight out of "The Handbook on Orchid Nomenclature and Registration" 4th edition 1993 Page 4 under The names of Natural Hybrids of Orchids there are two examples cited: "x Laeliocattleya leeana 'Picardy' is the cultivar name of a cultivar of the natural intergeneric hybrid between Cattleya loddigesii and Laelia pumila" "x Dactyglossum mixtum (Dactylorhiza fuchsii x Coeloglossum viride)" I think, somewhere in this book is a paragraph explaining which name takes precedence, the artificial grex name or natural hybrid name, depending on when the plant in question was identified as a natural hybrid versus when it was registered as an artificial hybrid, but I can't find it. "Ray" wrote in message ... I'm putting together a piece on how orchids are named, or should I say the way the names are written, and need some examples of natural hybrids, both inter-species and intergeneric. I believe that Paph X wellesleyanum (concolor x godefroyae) is an inter-specific example, but I can't think of any intergenerics. Anyone know any good examples? -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! . . . . . . . . . . . |
Natural Hybrids Help Needed
Thanks, Al.
-- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! .. . . . . . . . . . . "Al" wrote in message ... Straight out of "The Handbook on Orchid Nomenclature and Registration" 4th edition 1993 Page 4 under The names of Natural Hybrids of Orchids there are two examples cited: "x Laeliocattleya leeana 'Picardy' is the cultivar name of a cultivar of the natural intergeneric hybrid between Cattleya loddigesii and Laelia pumila" "x Dactyglossum mixtum (Dactylorhiza fuchsii x Coeloglossum viride)" I think, somewhere in this book is a paragraph explaining which name takes precedence, the artificial grex name or natural hybrid name, depending on when the plant in question was identified as a natural hybrid versus when it was registered as an artificial hybrid, but I can't find it. "Ray" wrote in message ... I'm putting together a piece on how orchids are named, or should I say the way the names are written, and need some examples of natural hybrids, both inter-species and intergeneric. I believe that Paph X wellesleyanum (concolor x godefroyae) is an inter-specific example, but I can't think of any intergenerics. Anyone know any good examples? -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! . . . . . . . . . . . |
Natural Hybrids Help Needed
PS. The book also says "In horticultural orchid literature the
multiplication sign in front of 'hybrid-generic names' is usually omitted in both natural and artificial intergeneric hybrids." I suppose they are pointing out by this that this would not be true in botanical literature. "Ray" wrote in message ... Thanks, Al. -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! . . . . . . . . . . . "Al" wrote in message ... Straight out of "The Handbook on Orchid Nomenclature and Registration" 4th edition 1993 Page 4 under The names of Natural Hybrids of Orchids there are two examples cited: "x Laeliocattleya leeana 'Picardy' is the cultivar name of a cultivar of the natural intergeneric hybrid between Cattleya loddigesii and Laelia pumila" "x Dactyglossum mixtum (Dactylorhiza fuchsii x Coeloglossum viride)" I think, somewhere in this book is a paragraph explaining which name takes precedence, the artificial grex name or natural hybrid name, depending on when the plant in question was identified as a natural hybrid versus when it was registered as an artificial hybrid, but I can't find it. "Ray" wrote in message ... I'm putting together a piece on how orchids are named, or should I say the way the names are written, and need some examples of natural hybrids, both inter-species and intergeneric. I believe that Paph X wellesleyanum (concolor x godefroyae) is an inter-specific example, but I can't think of any intergenerics. Anyone know any good examples? -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! . . . . . . . . . . . |
Natural Hybrids Help Needed
PS. The book also says "In horticultural orchid literature the
multiplication sign in front of 'hybrid-generic names' is usually omitted in both natural and artificial intergeneric hybrids." I suppose they are pointing out by this that this would not be true in botanical literature. "Ray" wrote in message ... Thanks, Al. -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! . . . . . . . . . . . "Al" wrote in message ... Straight out of "The Handbook on Orchid Nomenclature and Registration" 4th edition 1993 Page 4 under The names of Natural Hybrids of Orchids there are two examples cited: "x Laeliocattleya leeana 'Picardy' is the cultivar name of a cultivar of the natural intergeneric hybrid between Cattleya loddigesii and Laelia pumila" "x Dactyglossum mixtum (Dactylorhiza fuchsii x Coeloglossum viride)" I think, somewhere in this book is a paragraph explaining which name takes precedence, the artificial grex name or natural hybrid name, depending on when the plant in question was identified as a natural hybrid versus when it was registered as an artificial hybrid, but I can't find it. "Ray" wrote in message ... I'm putting together a piece on how orchids are named, or should I say the way the names are written, and need some examples of natural hybrids, both inter-species and intergeneric. I believe that Paph X wellesleyanum (concolor x godefroyae) is an inter-specific example, but I can't think of any intergenerics. Anyone know any good examples? -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! . . . . . . . . . . . |
Natural Hybrids Help Needed
Ray wrote:
I'm putting together a piece on how orchids are named, or should I say the way the names are written, and need some examples of natural hybrids, both inter-species and intergeneric. I believe that Paph X wellesleyanum (concolor x godefroyae) is an inter-specific example, but I can't think of any intergenerics. Anyone know any good examples? I don't know if it is formally codified, but I have seen natural hybrids written as (for example) Paph. x Fanaticum (or x fanaticum) Milt. x Bluntii (or x bluntii) Catt. x Guatamalensis etc (If you look, you will find some intergeneric laelia x catt natural hybrids, like Lc xElegans. However, the 'x' seems to be reserved for naturally occuring populations, and if the cross is made on purpose, I've seen people remove the 'x'. Or name it something else altogether, which doesn't sound right. Rob -- Rob's Rules: http://www.msu.edu/~halgren 1) There is always room for one more orchid 2) There is always room for two more orchids 2a. See rule 1 3) When one has insufficient credit to purchase more orchids, obtain more credit |
Natural Hybrids Help Needed
Ray wrote:
I'm putting together a piece on how orchids are named, or should I say the way the names are written, and need some examples of natural hybrids, both inter-species and intergeneric. I believe that Paph X wellesleyanum (concolor x godefroyae) is an inter-specific example, but I can't think of any intergenerics. Anyone know any good examples? I don't know if it is formally codified, but I have seen natural hybrids written as (for example) Paph. x Fanaticum (or x fanaticum) Milt. x Bluntii (or x bluntii) Catt. x Guatamalensis etc (If you look, you will find some intergeneric laelia x catt natural hybrids, like Lc xElegans. However, the 'x' seems to be reserved for naturally occuring populations, and if the cross is made on purpose, I've seen people remove the 'x'. Or name it something else altogether, which doesn't sound right. Rob -- Rob's Rules: http://www.msu.edu/~halgren 1) There is always room for one more orchid 2) There is always room for two more orchids 2a. See rule 1 3) When one has insufficient credit to purchase more orchids, obtain more credit |
Natural Hybrids Help Needed
Ray wrote:
I'm putting together a piece on how orchids are named, or should I say the way the names are written, and need some examples of natural hybrids, both inter-species and intergeneric. I believe that Paph X wellesleyanum (concolor x godefroyae) is an inter-specific example, but I can't think of any intergenerics. Anyone know any good examples? I don't know if it is formally codified, but I have seen natural hybrids written as (for example) Paph. x Fanaticum (or x fanaticum) Milt. x Bluntii (or x bluntii) Catt. x Guatamalensis etc (If you look, you will find some intergeneric laelia x catt natural hybrids, like Lc xElegans. However, the 'x' seems to be reserved for naturally occuring populations, and if the cross is made on purpose, I've seen people remove the 'x'. Or name it something else altogether, which doesn't sound right. Rob -- Rob's Rules: http://www.msu.edu/~halgren 1) There is always room for one more orchid 2) There is always room for two more orchids 2a. See rule 1 3) When one has insufficient credit to purchase more orchids, obtain more credit |
Natural Hybrids Help Needed
Ray wrote:
I'm putting together a piece on how orchids are named, or should I say the way the names are written, and need some examples of natural hybrids, both inter-species and intergeneric. I believe that Paph X wellesleyanum (concolor x godefroyae) is an inter-specific example, but I can't think of any intergenerics. Anyone know any good examples? I don't know if it is formally codified, but I have seen natural hybrids written as (for example) Paph. x Fanaticum (or x fanaticum) Milt. x Bluntii (or x bluntii) Catt. x Guatamalensis etc (If you look, you will find some intergeneric laelia x catt natural hybrids, like Lc xElegans. However, the 'x' seems to be reserved for naturally occuring populations, and if the cross is made on purpose, I've seen people remove the 'x'. Or name it something else altogether, which doesn't sound right. Rob -- Rob's Rules: http://www.msu.edu/~halgren 1) There is always room for one more orchid 2) There is always room for two more orchids 2a. See rule 1 3) When one has insufficient credit to purchase more orchids, obtain more credit |
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