I'm putting together a piece on how orchids are named, or should I say the
way the names are written, and need some examples of natural hybrids, both
inter-species and intergeneric.

I believe that Paph X wellesleyanum (concolor x godefroyae) is an
inter-specific example, but I can't think of any intergenerics.

Anyone know any good examples?

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

.. . . . . . . . . . .

Straight out of "The Handbook on Orchid Nomenclature and Registration" 4th
edition 1993
Page 4 under The names of Natural Hybrids of Orchids
there are two examples cited:

"x Laeliocattleya leeana 'Picardy' is the cultivar name of a cultivar of the
natural intergeneric hybrid between Cattleya loddigesii and Laelia pumila"

"x Dactyglossum mixtum (Dactylorhiza fuchsii x Coeloglossum viride)"

I think, somewhere in this book is a paragraph explaining which name takes
precedence, the artificial grex name or natural hybrid name, depending on
when the plant in question was identified as a natural hybrid versus when it
was registered as an artificial hybrid, but I can't find it.

"Ray" wrote in message
...
I'm putting together a piece on how orchids are named, or should I say the
way the names are written, and need some examples of natural hybrids, both
inter-species and intergeneric.

I believe that Paph X wellesleyanum (concolor x godefroyae) is an
inter-specific example, but I can't think of any intergenerics.

Anyone know any good examples?

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

. . . . . . . . . . .

Straight out of "The Handbook on Orchid Nomenclature and Registration" 4th
edition 1993
Page 4 under The names of Natural Hybrids of Orchids
there are two examples cited:

"x Laeliocattleya leeana 'Picardy' is the cultivar name of a cultivar of the
natural intergeneric hybrid between Cattleya loddigesii and Laelia pumila"

"x Dactyglossum mixtum (Dactylorhiza fuchsii x Coeloglossum viride)"

I think, somewhere in this book is a paragraph explaining which name takes
precedence, the artificial grex name or natural hybrid name, depending on
when the plant in question was identified as a natural hybrid versus when it
was registered as an artificial hybrid, but I can't find it.

"Ray" wrote in message
...
I'm putting together a piece on how orchids are named, or should I say the
way the names are written, and need some examples of natural hybrids, both
inter-species and intergeneric.

I believe that Paph X wellesleyanum (concolor x godefroyae) is an
inter-specific example, but I can't think of any intergenerics.

Anyone know any good examples?

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

. . . . . . . . . . .

Straight out of "The Handbook on Orchid Nomenclature and Registration" 4th
edition 1993
Page 4 under The names of Natural Hybrids of Orchids
there are two examples cited:

"x Laeliocattleya leeana 'Picardy' is the cultivar name of a cultivar of the
natural intergeneric hybrid between Cattleya loddigesii and Laelia pumila"

"x Dactyglossum mixtum (Dactylorhiza fuchsii x Coeloglossum viride)"

I think, somewhere in this book is a paragraph explaining which name takes
precedence, the artificial grex name or natural hybrid name, depending on
when the plant in question was identified as a natural hybrid versus when it
was registered as an artificial hybrid, but I can't find it.

"Ray" wrote in message
...
I'm putting together a piece on how orchids are named, or should I say the
way the names are written, and need some examples of natural hybrids, both
inter-species and intergeneric.

I believe that Paph X wellesleyanum (concolor x godefroyae) is an
inter-specific example, but I can't think of any intergenerics.

Anyone know any good examples?

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

. . . . . . . . . . .

Thanks, Al.

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

.. . . . . . . . . . .
"Al" wrote in message
...
Straight out of "The Handbook on Orchid Nomenclature and Registration" 4th
edition 1993
Page 4 under The names of Natural Hybrids of Orchids
there are two examples cited:

"x Laeliocattleya leeana 'Picardy' is the cultivar name of a cultivar of
the
natural intergeneric hybrid between Cattleya loddigesii and Laelia pumila"

"x Dactyglossum mixtum (Dactylorhiza fuchsii x Coeloglossum viride)"

I think, somewhere in this book is a paragraph explaining which name takes
precedence, the artificial grex name or natural hybrid name, depending on
when the plant in question was identified as a natural hybrid versus when
it
was registered as an artificial hybrid, but I can't find it.

"Ray" wrote in message
...
I'm putting together a piece on how orchids are named, or should I say
the
way the names are written, and need some examples of natural hybrids,
both
inter-species and intergeneric.

I believe that Paph X wellesleyanum (concolor x godefroyae) is an
inter-specific example, but I can't think of any intergenerics.

Anyone know any good examples?

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

. . . . . . . . . . .

PS. The book also says "In horticultural orchid literature the
multiplication sign in front of 'hybrid-generic names' is usually omitted in
both natural and artificial intergeneric hybrids." I suppose they are
pointing out by this that this would not be true in botanical literature.

"Ray" wrote in message
...
Thanks, Al.

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

. . . . . . . . . . .
"Al" wrote in message
...
Straight out of "The Handbook on Orchid Nomenclature and Registration"
4th
edition 1993
Page 4 under The names of Natural Hybrids of Orchids
there are two examples cited:

"x Laeliocattleya leeana 'Picardy' is the cultivar name of a cultivar of
the
natural intergeneric hybrid between Cattleya loddigesii and Laelia
pumila"

"x Dactyglossum mixtum (Dactylorhiza fuchsii x Coeloglossum viride)"

I think, somewhere in this book is a paragraph explaining which name
takes
precedence, the artificial grex name or natural hybrid name, depending
on
when the plant in question was identified as a natural hybrid versus
when
it
was registered as an artificial hybrid, but I can't find it.

"Ray" wrote in message
...
I'm putting together a piece on how orchids are named, or should I say
the
way the names are written, and need some examples of natural hybrids,
both
inter-species and intergeneric.

I believe that Paph X wellesleyanum (concolor x godefroyae) is an
inter-specific example, but I can't think of any intergenerics.

Anyone know any good examples?

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

. . . . . . . . . . .

Straight out of "The Handbook on Orchid Nomenclature and Registration" 4th
edition 1993
Page 4 under The names of Natural Hybrids of Orchids
there are two examples cited:

"x Laeliocattleya leeana 'Picardy' is the cultivar name of a cultivar of the
natural intergeneric hybrid between Cattleya loddigesii and Laelia pumila"

"x Dactyglossum mixtum (Dactylorhiza fuchsii x Coeloglossum viride)"

I think, somewhere in this book is a paragraph explaining which name takes
precedence, the artificial grex name or natural hybrid name, depending on
when the plant in question was identified as a natural hybrid versus when it
was registered as an artificial hybrid, but I can't find it.

"Ray" wrote in message
...
I'm putting together a piece on how orchids are named, or should I say the
way the names are written, and need some examples of natural hybrids, both
inter-species and intergeneric.

I believe that Paph X wellesleyanum (concolor x godefroyae) is an
inter-specific example, but I can't think of any intergenerics.

Anyone know any good examples?

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

. . . . . . . . . . .

Thanks, Al.

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

.. . . . . . . . . . .
"Al" wrote in message
...
Straight out of "The Handbook on Orchid Nomenclature and Registration" 4th
edition 1993
Page 4 under The names of Natural Hybrids of Orchids
there are two examples cited:

"x Laeliocattleya leeana 'Picardy' is the cultivar name of a cultivar of
the
natural intergeneric hybrid between Cattleya loddigesii and Laelia pumila"

"x Dactyglossum mixtum (Dactylorhiza fuchsii x Coeloglossum viride)"

I think, somewhere in this book is a paragraph explaining which name takes
precedence, the artificial grex name or natural hybrid name, depending on
when the plant in question was identified as a natural hybrid versus when
it
was registered as an artificial hybrid, but I can't find it.

"Ray" wrote in message
...
I'm putting together a piece on how orchids are named, or should I say
the
way the names are written, and need some examples of natural hybrids,
both
inter-species and intergeneric.

I believe that Paph X wellesleyanum (concolor x godefroyae) is an
inter-specific example, but I can't think of any intergenerics.

Anyone know any good examples?

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

. . . . . . . . . . .

Thanks, Al.

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

.. . . . . . . . . . .
"Al" wrote in message
...
Straight out of "The Handbook on Orchid Nomenclature and Registration" 4th
edition 1993
Page 4 under The names of Natural Hybrids of Orchids
there are two examples cited:

"x Laeliocattleya leeana 'Picardy' is the cultivar name of a cultivar of
the
natural intergeneric hybrid between Cattleya loddigesii and Laelia pumila"

"x Dactyglossum mixtum (Dactylorhiza fuchsii x Coeloglossum viride)"

I think, somewhere in this book is a paragraph explaining which name takes
precedence, the artificial grex name or natural hybrid name, depending on
when the plant in question was identified as a natural hybrid versus when
it
was registered as an artificial hybrid, but I can't find it.

"Ray" wrote in message
...
I'm putting together a piece on how orchids are named, or should I say
the
way the names are written, and need some examples of natural hybrids,
both
inter-species and intergeneric.

I believe that Paph X wellesleyanum (concolor x godefroyae) is an
inter-specific example, but I can't think of any intergenerics.

Anyone know any good examples?

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

. . . . . . . . . . .

PS. The book also says "In horticultural orchid literature the
multiplication sign in front of 'hybrid-generic names' is usually omitted in
both natural and artificial intergeneric hybrids." I suppose they are
pointing out by this that this would not be true in botanical literature.

"Ray" wrote in message
...
Thanks, Al.

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

. . . . . . . . . . .
"Al" wrote in message
...
Straight out of "The Handbook on Orchid Nomenclature and Registration"
4th
edition 1993
Page 4 under The names of Natural Hybrids of Orchids
there are two examples cited:

"x Laeliocattleya leeana 'Picardy' is the cultivar name of a cultivar of
the
natural intergeneric hybrid between Cattleya loddigesii and Laelia
pumila"

"x Dactyglossum mixtum (Dactylorhiza fuchsii x Coeloglossum viride)"

I think, somewhere in this book is a paragraph explaining which name
takes
precedence, the artificial grex name or natural hybrid name, depending
on
when the plant in question was identified as a natural hybrid versus
when
it
was registered as an artificial hybrid, but I can't find it.

"Ray" wrote in message
...
I'm putting together a piece on how orchids are named, or should I say
the
way the names are written, and need some examples of natural hybrids,
both
inter-species and intergeneric.

I believe that Paph X wellesleyanum (concolor x godefroyae) is an
inter-specific example, but I can't think of any intergenerics.

Anyone know any good examples?

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

. . . . . . . . . . .

PS. The book also says "In horticultural orchid literature the
multiplication sign in front of 'hybrid-generic names' is usually omitted in
both natural and artificial intergeneric hybrids." I suppose they are
pointing out by this that this would not be true in botanical literature.

"Ray" wrote in message
...
Thanks, Al.

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

. . . . . . . . . . .
"Al" wrote in message
...
Straight out of "The Handbook on Orchid Nomenclature and Registration"
4th
edition 1993
Page 4 under The names of Natural Hybrids of Orchids
there are two examples cited:

"x Laeliocattleya leeana 'Picardy' is the cultivar name of a cultivar of
the
natural intergeneric hybrid between Cattleya loddigesii and Laelia
pumila"

"x Dactyglossum mixtum (Dactylorhiza fuchsii x Coeloglossum viride)"

I think, somewhere in this book is a paragraph explaining which name
takes
precedence, the artificial grex name or natural hybrid name, depending
on
when the plant in question was identified as a natural hybrid versus
when
it
was registered as an artificial hybrid, but I can't find it.

"Ray" wrote in message
...
I'm putting together a piece on how orchids are named, or should I say
the
way the names are written, and need some examples of natural hybrids,
both
inter-species and intergeneric.

I believe that Paph X wellesleyanum (concolor x godefroyae) is an
inter-specific example, but I can't think of any intergenerics.

Anyone know any good examples?

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

. . . . . . . . . . .

Ray wrote:

I'm putting together a piece on how orchids are named, or should I say the
way the names are written, and need some examples of natural hybrids, both
inter-species and intergeneric.

I believe that Paph X wellesleyanum (concolor x godefroyae) is an
inter-specific example, but I can't think of any intergenerics.

Anyone know any good examples?



I don't know if it is formally codified, but I have seen natural hybrids
written as (for example)

Paph. x Fanaticum (or x fanaticum)
Milt. x Bluntii (or x bluntii)
Catt. x Guatamalensis

etc (If you look, you will find some intergeneric laelia x catt natural
hybrids, like Lc xElegans.

However, the 'x' seems to be reserved for naturally occuring
populations, and if the cross is made on purpose, I've seen people
remove the 'x'. Or name it something else altogether, which doesn't
sound right.

Rob

--
Rob's Rules: http://www.msu.edu/~halgren
1) There is always room for one more orchid
2) There is always room for two more orchids
2a. See rule 1
3) When one has insufficient credit to purchase
more orchids, obtain more credit

Ray wrote:

I'm putting together a piece on how orchids are named, or should I say the
way the names are written, and need some examples of natural hybrids, both
inter-species and intergeneric.

I believe that Paph X wellesleyanum (concolor x godefroyae) is an
inter-specific example, but I can't think of any intergenerics.

Anyone know any good examples?



I don't know if it is formally codified, but I have seen natural hybrids
written as (for example)

Paph. x Fanaticum (or x fanaticum)
Milt. x Bluntii (or x bluntii)
Catt. x Guatamalensis

etc (If you look, you will find some intergeneric laelia x catt natural
hybrids, like Lc xElegans.

However, the 'x' seems to be reserved for naturally occuring
populations, and if the cross is made on purpose, I've seen people
remove the 'x'. Or name it something else altogether, which doesn't
sound right.

Rob

--
Rob's Rules: http://www.msu.edu/~halgren
1) There is always room for one more orchid
2) There is always room for two more orchids
2a. See rule 1
3) When one has insufficient credit to purchase
more orchids, obtain more credit

Ray wrote:

I'm putting together a piece on how orchids are named, or should I say the
way the names are written, and need some examples of natural hybrids, both
inter-species and intergeneric.

I believe that Paph X wellesleyanum (concolor x godefroyae) is an
inter-specific example, but I can't think of any intergenerics.

Anyone know any good examples?



I don't know if it is formally codified, but I have seen natural hybrids
written as (for example)

Paph. x Fanaticum (or x fanaticum)
Milt. x Bluntii (or x bluntii)
Catt. x Guatamalensis

etc (If you look, you will find some intergeneric laelia x catt natural
hybrids, like Lc xElegans.

However, the 'x' seems to be reserved for naturally occuring
populations, and if the cross is made on purpose, I've seen people
remove the 'x'. Or name it something else altogether, which doesn't
sound right.

Rob

--
Rob's Rules: http://www.msu.edu/~halgren
1) There is always room for one more orchid
2) There is always room for two more orchids
2a. See rule 1
3) When one has insufficient credit to purchase
more orchids, obtain more credit

Ray wrote:

I'm putting together a piece on how orchids are named, or should I say the
way the names are written, and need some examples of natural hybrids, both
inter-species and intergeneric.

I believe that Paph X wellesleyanum (concolor x godefroyae) is an
inter-specific example, but I can't think of any intergenerics.

Anyone know any good examples?



I don't know if it is formally codified, but I have seen natural hybrids
written as (for example)

Paph. x Fanaticum (or x fanaticum)
Milt. x Bluntii (or x bluntii)
Catt. x Guatamalensis

etc (If you look, you will find some intergeneric laelia x catt natural
hybrids, like Lc xElegans.

However, the 'x' seems to be reserved for naturally occuring
populations, and if the cross is made on purpose, I've seen people
remove the 'x'. Or name it something else altogether, which doesn't
sound right.

Rob

--
Rob's Rules: http://www.msu.edu/~halgren
1) There is always room for one more orchid
2) There is always room for two more orchids
2a. See rule 1
3) When one has insufficient credit to purchase
more orchids, obtain more credit