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GrlIntrpted 15-03-2004 11:39 PM

Disaster
 
[Deep breath....].... I woke up this morning to a major, MAJOR disaster. You
see, I grow orchids on window sills, almost every window in the house is
serving
as a home to orchids. At night, it takes me about an hour to move the
orchids
from the sills to their night spots [we close the shades for the night]. The
ones in my bedroom [Southern exposure] go under our bed :) [Our bed is 4
feet
off the floor]. Some go on the external staircase [It leads to the basement
from the side of the house; it goes down to the high 50'F's at night]. In
the
morning, I wake up an hour earlier so that I can place the orchids back on
to
the sills.

This morning, to my complete horror, I noticed rodent bite marks on two new
growths of a Laelia milleri. Laelia lobata took a severe hit as well, Catt
maxima which I just received from a friend suffered too. The bulbo's
took a big hit, on those they ate through the bulbs. I've already contacted
an exterminator he is going to show up tonight. Meanwhile, I feel awful, I
can
not believe that this could happen, just like that, never ever thought that
mice
go for orchids.....isn't vanilla the only edible orchid? :(

The very bummed,
Mariana




Eric Hunt 15-03-2004 11:39 PM

Disaster
 
Mariana,

That's terrible news.

We at OrchidMania deal with the critters every start of winter - they get
into the greenhouse when it gets colder in SF and do exactly what you
described.

Every year we buy a different brand of bait and it clears them out in a
week. Finding the mouse mummy carcasses all year long sux, though.

Good luck with the exterminator!

-Eric in SF

"GrlIntrpted" wrote in message
. net...
[Deep breath....].... I woke up this morning to a major, MAJOR disaster.

You
see, I grow orchids on window sills, almost every window in the house is
serving
as a home to orchids. At night, it takes me about an hour to move the
orchids
from the sills to their night spots [we close the shades for the night].

The
ones in my bedroom [Southern exposure] go under our bed :) [Our bed is 4
feet
off the floor]. Some go on the external staircase [It leads to the

basement
from the side of the house; it goes down to the high 50'F's at night]. In
the
morning, I wake up an hour earlier so that I can place the orchids back on
to
the sills.

This morning, to my complete horror, I noticed rodent bite marks on two

new
growths of a Laelia milleri. Laelia lobata took a severe hit as well, Catt
maxima which I just received from a friend suffered too. The bulbo's
took a big hit, on those they ate through the bulbs. I've already

contacted
an exterminator he is going to show up tonight. Meanwhile, I feel awful, I
can
not believe that this could happen, just like that, never ever thought

that
mice
go for orchids.....isn't vanilla the only edible orchid? :(

The very bummed,
Mariana






Eric Hunt 15-03-2004 11:39 PM

Disaster
 
Mariana,

That's terrible news.

We at OrchidMania deal with the critters every start of winter - they get
into the greenhouse when it gets colder in SF and do exactly what you
described.

Every year we buy a different brand of bait and it clears them out in a
week. Finding the mouse mummy carcasses all year long sux, though.

Good luck with the exterminator!

-Eric in SF

"GrlIntrpted" wrote in message
. net...
[Deep breath....].... I woke up this morning to a major, MAJOR disaster.

You
see, I grow orchids on window sills, almost every window in the house is
serving
as a home to orchids. At night, it takes me about an hour to move the
orchids
from the sills to their night spots [we close the shades for the night].

The
ones in my bedroom [Southern exposure] go under our bed :) [Our bed is 4
feet
off the floor]. Some go on the external staircase [It leads to the

basement
from the side of the house; it goes down to the high 50'F's at night]. In
the
morning, I wake up an hour earlier so that I can place the orchids back on
to
the sills.

This morning, to my complete horror, I noticed rodent bite marks on two

new
growths of a Laelia milleri. Laelia lobata took a severe hit as well, Catt
maxima which I just received from a friend suffered too. The bulbo's
took a big hit, on those they ate through the bulbs. I've already

contacted
an exterminator he is going to show up tonight. Meanwhile, I feel awful, I
can
not believe that this could happen, just like that, never ever thought

that
mice
go for orchids.....isn't vanilla the only edible orchid? :(

The very bummed,
Mariana






Eric Hunt 15-03-2004 11:39 PM

Disaster
 
Mariana,

That's terrible news.

We at OrchidMania deal with the critters every start of winter - they get
into the greenhouse when it gets colder in SF and do exactly what you
described.

Every year we buy a different brand of bait and it clears them out in a
week. Finding the mouse mummy carcasses all year long sux, though.

Good luck with the exterminator!

-Eric in SF

"GrlIntrpted" wrote in message
. net...
[Deep breath....].... I woke up this morning to a major, MAJOR disaster.

You
see, I grow orchids on window sills, almost every window in the house is
serving
as a home to orchids. At night, it takes me about an hour to move the
orchids
from the sills to their night spots [we close the shades for the night].

The
ones in my bedroom [Southern exposure] go under our bed :) [Our bed is 4
feet
off the floor]. Some go on the external staircase [It leads to the

basement
from the side of the house; it goes down to the high 50'F's at night]. In
the
morning, I wake up an hour earlier so that I can place the orchids back on
to
the sills.

This morning, to my complete horror, I noticed rodent bite marks on two

new
growths of a Laelia milleri. Laelia lobata took a severe hit as well, Catt
maxima which I just received from a friend suffered too. The bulbo's
took a big hit, on those they ate through the bulbs. I've already

contacted
an exterminator he is going to show up tonight. Meanwhile, I feel awful, I
can
not believe that this could happen, just like that, never ever thought

that
mice
go for orchids.....isn't vanilla the only edible orchid? :(

The very bummed,
Mariana






wendy7 15-03-2004 11:39 PM

Disaster
 
Xref: kermit rec.gardens.orchids:57072

Yikes!!!!! What a shame Mariana, I would have cried.
I wonder if those electric gizmos work, you plug them in & they put
out a high frequency noise & the rodents or critters leave?
Hope you get those little sh one t's sorted out!
Cheers Wendy

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GrlIntrpted wrote:
[Deep breath....].... I woke up this morning to a major, MAJOR
disaster. You see, I grow orchids on window sills, almost every
window in the house is serving
as a home to orchids. At night, it takes me about an hour to move the
orchids
from the sills to their night spots [we close the shades for the
night]. The ones in my bedroom [Southern exposure] go under our bed
:) [Our bed is 4 feet
off the floor]. Some go on the external staircase [It leads to the
basement from the side of the house; it goes down to the high 50'F's
at night]. In the
morning, I wake up an hour earlier so that I can place the orchids
back on to
the sills.

This morning, to my complete horror, I noticed rodent bite marks on
two new growths of a Laelia milleri. Laelia lobata took a severe hit
as well, Catt maxima which I just received from a friend suffered
too. The bulbo's
took a big hit, on those they ate through the bulbs. I've already
contacted an exterminator he is going to show up tonight. Meanwhile,
I feel awful, I can
not believe that this could happen, just like that, never ever
thought that mice
go for orchids.....isn't vanilla the only edible orchid? :(

The very bummed,
Mariana




wendy7 15-03-2004 11:39 PM

Disaster
 
Xref: kermit rec.gardens.orchids:57072

Yikes!!!!! What a shame Mariana, I would have cried.
I wonder if those electric gizmos work, you plug them in & they put
out a high frequency noise & the rodents or critters leave?
Hope you get those little sh one t's sorted out!
Cheers Wendy

Remove PETERPAN for email reply

GrlIntrpted wrote:
[Deep breath....].... I woke up this morning to a major, MAJOR
disaster. You see, I grow orchids on window sills, almost every
window in the house is serving
as a home to orchids. At night, it takes me about an hour to move the
orchids
from the sills to their night spots [we close the shades for the
night]. The ones in my bedroom [Southern exposure] go under our bed
:) [Our bed is 4 feet
off the floor]. Some go on the external staircase [It leads to the
basement from the side of the house; it goes down to the high 50'F's
at night]. In the
morning, I wake up an hour earlier so that I can place the orchids
back on to
the sills.

This morning, to my complete horror, I noticed rodent bite marks on
two new growths of a Laelia milleri. Laelia lobata took a severe hit
as well, Catt maxima which I just received from a friend suffered
too. The bulbo's
took a big hit, on those they ate through the bulbs. I've already
contacted an exterminator he is going to show up tonight. Meanwhile,
I feel awful, I can
not believe that this could happen, just like that, never ever
thought that mice
go for orchids.....isn't vanilla the only edible orchid? :(

The very bummed,
Mariana




wendy7 15-03-2004 11:39 PM

Disaster
 
Xref: kermit rec.gardens.orchids:57072

Yikes!!!!! What a shame Mariana, I would have cried.
I wonder if those electric gizmos work, you plug them in & they put
out a high frequency noise & the rodents or critters leave?
Hope you get those little sh one t's sorted out!
Cheers Wendy

Remove PETERPAN for email reply

GrlIntrpted wrote:
[Deep breath....].... I woke up this morning to a major, MAJOR
disaster. You see, I grow orchids on window sills, almost every
window in the house is serving
as a home to orchids. At night, it takes me about an hour to move the
orchids
from the sills to their night spots [we close the shades for the
night]. The ones in my bedroom [Southern exposure] go under our bed
:) [Our bed is 4 feet
off the floor]. Some go on the external staircase [It leads to the
basement from the side of the house; it goes down to the high 50'F's
at night]. In the
morning, I wake up an hour earlier so that I can place the orchids
back on to
the sills.

This morning, to my complete horror, I noticed rodent bite marks on
two new growths of a Laelia milleri. Laelia lobata took a severe hit
as well, Catt maxima which I just received from a friend suffered
too. The bulbo's
took a big hit, on those they ate through the bulbs. I've already
contacted an exterminator he is going to show up tonight. Meanwhile,
I feel awful, I can
not believe that this could happen, just like that, never ever
thought that mice
go for orchids.....isn't vanilla the only edible orchid? :(

The very bummed,
Mariana




GrlIntrpted 15-03-2004 11:40 PM

Disaster
 
I'm beyond crying...I just went through the orchids on the western side of
the house, and ALL the ones with the new growth have been damaged.
Interestingly, they spared the dendrobiums, some oncidiums as well as the
phals and paphs. They really went for the bulbos, pleurs, catts and
Laelias...I just hope that they wont die and will be able to restart a new
growth...

-M

"wendy7" wrote in message
news:s6p5c.9481$uh.3969@fed1read02...
Yikes!!!!! What a shame Mariana, I would have cried.
I wonder if those electric gizmos work, you plug them in & they put
out a high frequency noise & the rodents or critters leave?
Hope you get those little sh one t's sorted out!
Cheers Wendy

Remove PETERPAN for email reply

GrlIntrpted wrote:
[Deep breath....].... I woke up this morning to a major, MAJOR
disaster. You see, I grow orchids on window sills, almost every
window in the house is serving
as a home to orchids. At night, it takes me about an hour to move the
orchids
from the sills to their night spots [we close the shades for the
night]. The ones in my bedroom [Southern exposure] go under our bed
:) [Our bed is 4 feet
off the floor]. Some go on the external staircase [It leads to the
basement from the side of the house; it goes down to the high 50'F's
at night]. In the
morning, I wake up an hour earlier so that I can place the orchids
back on to
the sills.

This morning, to my complete horror, I noticed rodent bite marks on
two new growths of a Laelia milleri. Laelia lobata took a severe hit
as well, Catt maxima which I just received from a friend suffered
too. The bulbo's
took a big hit, on those they ate through the bulbs. I've already
contacted an exterminator he is going to show up tonight. Meanwhile,
I feel awful, I can
not believe that this could happen, just like that, never ever
thought that mice
go for orchids.....isn't vanilla the only edible orchid? :(

The very bummed,
Mariana






GrlIntrpted 15-03-2004 11:40 PM

Disaster
 
I'm beyond crying...I just went through the orchids on the western side of
the house, and ALL the ones with the new growth have been damaged.
Interestingly, they spared the dendrobiums, some oncidiums as well as the
phals and paphs. They really went for the bulbos, pleurs, catts and
Laelias...I just hope that they wont die and will be able to restart a new
growth...

-M

"wendy7" wrote in message
news:s6p5c.9481$uh.3969@fed1read02...
Yikes!!!!! What a shame Mariana, I would have cried.
I wonder if those electric gizmos work, you plug them in & they put
out a high frequency noise & the rodents or critters leave?
Hope you get those little sh one t's sorted out!
Cheers Wendy

Remove PETERPAN for email reply

GrlIntrpted wrote:
[Deep breath....].... I woke up this morning to a major, MAJOR
disaster. You see, I grow orchids on window sills, almost every
window in the house is serving
as a home to orchids. At night, it takes me about an hour to move the
orchids
from the sills to their night spots [we close the shades for the
night]. The ones in my bedroom [Southern exposure] go under our bed
:) [Our bed is 4 feet
off the floor]. Some go on the external staircase [It leads to the
basement from the side of the house; it goes down to the high 50'F's
at night]. In the
morning, I wake up an hour earlier so that I can place the orchids
back on to
the sills.

This morning, to my complete horror, I noticed rodent bite marks on
two new growths of a Laelia milleri. Laelia lobata took a severe hit
as well, Catt maxima which I just received from a friend suffered
too. The bulbo's
took a big hit, on those they ate through the bulbs. I've already
contacted an exterminator he is going to show up tonight. Meanwhile,
I feel awful, I can
not believe that this could happen, just like that, never ever
thought that mice
go for orchids.....isn't vanilla the only edible orchid? :(

The very bummed,
Mariana






GrlIntrpted 15-03-2004 11:40 PM

Disaster
 
I'm beyond crying...I just went through the orchids on the western side of
the house, and ALL the ones with the new growth have been damaged.
Interestingly, they spared the dendrobiums, some oncidiums as well as the
phals and paphs. They really went for the bulbos, pleurs, catts and
Laelias...I just hope that they wont die and will be able to restart a new
growth...

-M

"wendy7" wrote in message
news:s6p5c.9481$uh.3969@fed1read02...
Yikes!!!!! What a shame Mariana, I would have cried.
I wonder if those electric gizmos work, you plug them in & they put
out a high frequency noise & the rodents or critters leave?
Hope you get those little sh one t's sorted out!
Cheers Wendy

Remove PETERPAN for email reply

GrlIntrpted wrote:
[Deep breath....].... I woke up this morning to a major, MAJOR
disaster. You see, I grow orchids on window sills, almost every
window in the house is serving
as a home to orchids. At night, it takes me about an hour to move the
orchids
from the sills to their night spots [we close the shades for the
night]. The ones in my bedroom [Southern exposure] go under our bed
:) [Our bed is 4 feet
off the floor]. Some go on the external staircase [It leads to the
basement from the side of the house; it goes down to the high 50'F's
at night]. In the
morning, I wake up an hour earlier so that I can place the orchids
back on to
the sills.

This morning, to my complete horror, I noticed rodent bite marks on
two new growths of a Laelia milleri. Laelia lobata took a severe hit
as well, Catt maxima which I just received from a friend suffered
too. The bulbo's
took a big hit, on those they ate through the bulbs. I've already
contacted an exterminator he is going to show up tonight. Meanwhile,
I feel awful, I can
not believe that this could happen, just like that, never ever
thought that mice
go for orchids.....isn't vanilla the only edible orchid? :(

The very bummed,
Mariana






Geir Harris Hedemark 16-03-2004 12:29 AM

Disaster
 
"GrlIntrpted" writes:
not believe that this could happen, just like that, never ever
thought that mice go for orchids.....isn't vanilla the only edible
orchid? :(


You can only hope.

Geir

Geir Harris Hedemark 16-03-2004 12:34 AM

Disaster
 
"GrlIntrpted" writes:
not believe that this could happen, just like that, never ever
thought that mice go for orchids.....isn't vanilla the only edible
orchid? :(


You can only hope.

Geir

Geir Harris Hedemark 16-03-2004 01:22 AM

Disaster
 
"GrlIntrpted" writes:
not believe that this could happen, just like that, never ever
thought that mice go for orchids.....isn't vanilla the only edible
orchid? :(


You can only hope.

Geir

Bob Walsh 16-03-2004 05:12 AM

Disaster
 
I tried the electronic gizmo. It did not work.

Bob

"wendy7" wrote in message
news:s6p5c.9481$uh.3969@fed1read02...
Yikes!!!!! What a shame Mariana, I would have cried.
I wonder if those electric gizmos work, you plug them in & they put
out a high frequency noise & the rodents or critters leave?
Hope you get those little sh one t's sorted out!
Cheers Wendy

Remove PETERPAN for email reply

GrlIntrpted wrote:
[Deep breath....].... I woke up this morning to a major, MAJOR
disaster. You see, I grow orchids on window sills, almost every
window in the house is serving
as a home to orchids. At night, it takes me about an hour to move the
orchids
from the sills to their night spots [we close the shades for the
night]. The ones in my bedroom [Southern exposure] go under our bed
:) [Our bed is 4 feet
off the floor]. Some go on the external staircase [It leads to the
basement from the side of the house; it goes down to the high 50'F's
at night]. In the
morning, I wake up an hour earlier so that I can place the orchids
back on to
the sills.

This morning, to my complete horror, I noticed rodent bite marks on
two new growths of a Laelia milleri. Laelia lobata took a severe hit
as well, Catt maxima which I just received from a friend suffered
too. The bulbo's
took a big hit, on those they ate through the bulbs. I've already
contacted an exterminator he is going to show up tonight. Meanwhile,
I feel awful, I can
not believe that this could happen, just like that, never ever
thought that mice
go for orchids.....isn't vanilla the only edible orchid? :(

The very bummed,
Mariana






J. Del Col 16-03-2004 01:33 PM

Disaster
 
"wendy7" wrote in message news:s6p5c.9481$uh.3969@fed1read02...
Yikes!!!!! What a shame Mariana, I would have cried.
I wonder if those electric gizmos work, you plug them in & they put
out a high frequency noise & the rodents or critters leave?


These "gizmos" are a fraud. They catch more suckers than mice.


J. Del Col

TRAINMAN9 16-03-2004 01:34 PM

Disaster
 
I tried the electronic gizmo. It did not work.

Bob


I have one in the greenhouse and it seems to work sometimes but not others. It
did rid the greenhouse of most crickets but the chipmonks seem to ignor it.

TRAINMAN9 16-03-2004 01:34 PM

Disaster
 
I also had to build a cage out of coated wire to protect my cymbidium when it
spike up. That was the only way to protect it. After it flowers I take it down.

Bob Walsh 16-03-2004 05:23 PM

Disaster
 
I got to thinking (rare for me some would say) last night about your pest
control service. If what they did was to place bait or poison for the mice
rather than traps you may have serious problems for a few more days. Many of
the chemicals that are used for mice cause internal bleeding that greatly
increases their thirst. If nothing else is around for quenching their thirst
some nice juicy young shoots from some orchids will suffice.
I don't have a solution other than to suggest maybe setting some jar lids
full of water along the walls for them to drink. The poison will still get
them if they take the bait.

Bob

"Geir Harris Hedemark" wrote in message
...
"GrlIntrpted" writes:
not believe that this could happen, just like that, never ever
thought that mice go for orchids.....isn't vanilla the only edible
orchid? :(


You can only hope.

Geir




Bob Walsh 16-03-2004 05:48 PM

Disaster
 
I got to thinking (rare for me some would say) last night about your pest
control service. If what they did was to place bait or poison for the mice
rather than traps you may have serious problems for a few more days. Many of
the chemicals that are used for mice cause internal bleeding that greatly
increases their thirst. If nothing else is around for quenching their thirst
some nice juicy young shoots from some orchids will suffice.
I don't have a solution other than to suggest maybe setting some jar lids
full of water along the walls for them to drink. The poison will still get
them if they take the bait.

Bob

"Geir Harris Hedemark" wrote in message
...
"GrlIntrpted" writes:
not believe that this could happen, just like that, never ever
thought that mice go for orchids.....isn't vanilla the only edible
orchid? :(


You can only hope.

Geir




Bob Walsh 16-03-2004 05:54 PM

Disaster
 
I got to thinking (rare for me some would say) last night about your pest
control service. If what they did was to place bait or poison for the mice
rather than traps you may have serious problems for a few more days. Many of
the chemicals that are used for mice cause internal bleeding that greatly
increases their thirst. If nothing else is around for quenching their thirst
some nice juicy young shoots from some orchids will suffice.
I don't have a solution other than to suggest maybe setting some jar lids
full of water along the walls for them to drink. The poison will still get
them if they take the bait.

Bob

"Geir Harris Hedemark" wrote in message
...
"GrlIntrpted" writes:
not believe that this could happen, just like that, never ever
thought that mice go for orchids.....isn't vanilla the only edible
orchid? :(


You can only hope.

Geir




Rob Halgren 16-03-2004 06:02 PM

Disaster
 
Bob Walsh wrote:

I got to thinking (rare for me some would say) last night about your pest
control service. If what they did was to place bait or poison for the mice
rather than traps you may have serious problems for a few more days. Many of
the chemicals that are used for mice cause internal bleeding that greatly
increases their thirst. If nothing else is around for quenching their thirst
some nice juicy young shoots from some orchids will suffice.
I don't have a solution other than to suggest maybe setting some jar lids
full of water along the walls for them to drink. The poison will still get
them if they take the bait.




There is something to be said for the old 'snap' traps. Sure, it is
a little gross to clean them up, but is it any more disgusting than
finding rotting rodent carcasses under the dishwasher?

Anyway, the technology is established, the traps are cheap, and it
is probably more humane. Would you rather die from a quick 'snap' or a
long painful death by internal bleeding? I'd rather get hit on the head...

You can get the traps at any hardware store. I hear that peanut
butter is good bait. Or you could use tender young orchid shoots,
maybe... *grin*

Another thing that gets rid of rodents is cats. The feline kind.
Even if they aren't hunting cats (they have to learn how to kill from
their mother, but they are born knowing how to stalk), they still scare
off rodents. Probably the smell, or the chasing, or something. Then
you have to worry about your cats chewing on your catts, of course.
Believe it or not, they can be trained. Maybe you can borrow a kitty
for a few weeks.

Rob

--
Rob's Rules: http://www.msu.edu/~halgren
1) There is always room for one more orchid
2) There is always room for two more orchids
2a. See rule 1
3) When one has insufficient credit to purchase
more orchids, obtain more credit

Rob Halgren 16-03-2004 06:34 PM

Disaster
 
Bob Walsh wrote:

I got to thinking (rare for me some would say) last night about your pest
control service. If what they did was to place bait or poison for the mice
rather than traps you may have serious problems for a few more days. Many of
the chemicals that are used for mice cause internal bleeding that greatly
increases their thirst. If nothing else is around for quenching their thirst
some nice juicy young shoots from some orchids will suffice.
I don't have a solution other than to suggest maybe setting some jar lids
full of water along the walls for them to drink. The poison will still get
them if they take the bait.




There is something to be said for the old 'snap' traps. Sure, it is
a little gross to clean them up, but is it any more disgusting than
finding rotting rodent carcasses under the dishwasher?

Anyway, the technology is established, the traps are cheap, and it
is probably more humane. Would you rather die from a quick 'snap' or a
long painful death by internal bleeding? I'd rather get hit on the head...

You can get the traps at any hardware store. I hear that peanut
butter is good bait. Or you could use tender young orchid shoots,
maybe... *grin*

Another thing that gets rid of rodents is cats. The feline kind.
Even if they aren't hunting cats (they have to learn how to kill from
their mother, but they are born knowing how to stalk), they still scare
off rodents. Probably the smell, or the chasing, or something. Then
you have to worry about your cats chewing on your catts, of course.
Believe it or not, they can be trained. Maybe you can borrow a kitty
for a few weeks.

Rob

--
Rob's Rules: http://www.msu.edu/~halgren
1) There is always room for one more orchid
2) There is always room for two more orchids
2a. See rule 1
3) When one has insufficient credit to purchase
more orchids, obtain more credit

Rob Halgren 16-03-2004 07:14 PM

Disaster
 
Bob Walsh wrote:

I got to thinking (rare for me some would say) last night about your pest
control service. If what they did was to place bait or poison for the mice
rather than traps you may have serious problems for a few more days. Many of
the chemicals that are used for mice cause internal bleeding that greatly
increases their thirst. If nothing else is around for quenching their thirst
some nice juicy young shoots from some orchids will suffice.
I don't have a solution other than to suggest maybe setting some jar lids
full of water along the walls for them to drink. The poison will still get
them if they take the bait.




There is something to be said for the old 'snap' traps. Sure, it is
a little gross to clean them up, but is it any more disgusting than
finding rotting rodent carcasses under the dishwasher?

Anyway, the technology is established, the traps are cheap, and it
is probably more humane. Would you rather die from a quick 'snap' or a
long painful death by internal bleeding? I'd rather get hit on the head...

You can get the traps at any hardware store. I hear that peanut
butter is good bait. Or you could use tender young orchid shoots,
maybe... *grin*

Another thing that gets rid of rodents is cats. The feline kind.
Even if they aren't hunting cats (they have to learn how to kill from
their mother, but they are born knowing how to stalk), they still scare
off rodents. Probably the smell, or the chasing, or something. Then
you have to worry about your cats chewing on your catts, of course.
Believe it or not, they can be trained. Maybe you can borrow a kitty
for a few weeks.

Rob

--
Rob's Rules: http://www.msu.edu/~halgren
1) There is always room for one more orchid
2) There is always room for two more orchids
2a. See rule 1
3) When one has insufficient credit to purchase
more orchids, obtain more credit

Rob Halgren 16-03-2004 07:23 PM

Disaster
 
Bob Walsh wrote:

I got to thinking (rare for me some would say) last night about your pest
control service. If what they did was to place bait or poison for the mice
rather than traps you may have serious problems for a few more days. Many of
the chemicals that are used for mice cause internal bleeding that greatly
increases their thirst. If nothing else is around for quenching their thirst
some nice juicy young shoots from some orchids will suffice.
I don't have a solution other than to suggest maybe setting some jar lids
full of water along the walls for them to drink. The poison will still get
them if they take the bait.




There is something to be said for the old 'snap' traps. Sure, it is
a little gross to clean them up, but is it any more disgusting than
finding rotting rodent carcasses under the dishwasher?

Anyway, the technology is established, the traps are cheap, and it
is probably more humane. Would you rather die from a quick 'snap' or a
long painful death by internal bleeding? I'd rather get hit on the head...

You can get the traps at any hardware store. I hear that peanut
butter is good bait. Or you could use tender young orchid shoots,
maybe... *grin*

Another thing that gets rid of rodents is cats. The feline kind.
Even if they aren't hunting cats (they have to learn how to kill from
their mother, but they are born knowing how to stalk), they still scare
off rodents. Probably the smell, or the chasing, or something. Then
you have to worry about your cats chewing on your catts, of course.
Believe it or not, they can be trained. Maybe you can borrow a kitty
for a few weeks.

Rob

--
Rob's Rules: http://www.msu.edu/~halgren
1) There is always room for one more orchid
2) There is always room for two more orchids
2a. See rule 1
3) When one has insufficient credit to purchase
more orchids, obtain more credit

Rob Halgren 16-03-2004 07:24 PM

Disaster
 
Bob Walsh wrote:

I got to thinking (rare for me some would say) last night about your pest
control service. If what they did was to place bait or poison for the mice
rather than traps you may have serious problems for a few more days. Many of
the chemicals that are used for mice cause internal bleeding that greatly
increases their thirst. If nothing else is around for quenching their thirst
some nice juicy young shoots from some orchids will suffice.
I don't have a solution other than to suggest maybe setting some jar lids
full of water along the walls for them to drink. The poison will still get
them if they take the bait.




There is something to be said for the old 'snap' traps. Sure, it is
a little gross to clean them up, but is it any more disgusting than
finding rotting rodent carcasses under the dishwasher?

Anyway, the technology is established, the traps are cheap, and it
is probably more humane. Would you rather die from a quick 'snap' or a
long painful death by internal bleeding? I'd rather get hit on the head...

You can get the traps at any hardware store. I hear that peanut
butter is good bait. Or you could use tender young orchid shoots,
maybe... *grin*

Another thing that gets rid of rodents is cats. The feline kind.
Even if they aren't hunting cats (they have to learn how to kill from
their mother, but they are born knowing how to stalk), they still scare
off rodents. Probably the smell, or the chasing, or something. Then
you have to worry about your cats chewing on your catts, of course.
Believe it or not, they can be trained. Maybe you can borrow a kitty
for a few weeks.

Rob

--
Rob's Rules: http://www.msu.edu/~halgren
1) There is always room for one more orchid
2) There is always room for two more orchids
2a. See rule 1
3) When one has insufficient credit to purchase
more orchids, obtain more credit

Rob Halgren 16-03-2004 07:55 PM

Disaster
 
Bob Walsh wrote:

I got to thinking (rare for me some would say) last night about your pest
control service. If what they did was to place bait or poison for the mice
rather than traps you may have serious problems for a few more days. Many of
the chemicals that are used for mice cause internal bleeding that greatly
increases their thirst. If nothing else is around for quenching their thirst
some nice juicy young shoots from some orchids will suffice.
I don't have a solution other than to suggest maybe setting some jar lids
full of water along the walls for them to drink. The poison will still get
them if they take the bait.




There is something to be said for the old 'snap' traps. Sure, it is
a little gross to clean them up, but is it any more disgusting than
finding rotting rodent carcasses under the dishwasher?

Anyway, the technology is established, the traps are cheap, and it
is probably more humane. Would you rather die from a quick 'snap' or a
long painful death by internal bleeding? I'd rather get hit on the head...

You can get the traps at any hardware store. I hear that peanut
butter is good bait. Or you could use tender young orchid shoots,
maybe... *grin*

Another thing that gets rid of rodents is cats. The feline kind.
Even if they aren't hunting cats (they have to learn how to kill from
their mother, but they are born knowing how to stalk), they still scare
off rodents. Probably the smell, or the chasing, or something. Then
you have to worry about your cats chewing on your catts, of course.
Believe it or not, they can be trained. Maybe you can borrow a kitty
for a few weeks.

Rob

--
Rob's Rules: http://www.msu.edu/~halgren
1) There is always room for one more orchid
2) There is always room for two more orchids
2a. See rule 1
3) When one has insufficient credit to purchase
more orchids, obtain more credit

Rob Halgren 16-03-2004 07:55 PM

Disaster
 
Bob Walsh wrote:

I got to thinking (rare for me some would say) last night about your pest
control service. If what they did was to place bait or poison for the mice
rather than traps you may have serious problems for a few more days. Many of
the chemicals that are used for mice cause internal bleeding that greatly
increases their thirst. If nothing else is around for quenching their thirst
some nice juicy young shoots from some orchids will suffice.
I don't have a solution other than to suggest maybe setting some jar lids
full of water along the walls for them to drink. The poison will still get
them if they take the bait.




There is something to be said for the old 'snap' traps. Sure, it is
a little gross to clean them up, but is it any more disgusting than
finding rotting rodent carcasses under the dishwasher?

Anyway, the technology is established, the traps are cheap, and it
is probably more humane. Would you rather die from a quick 'snap' or a
long painful death by internal bleeding? I'd rather get hit on the head...

You can get the traps at any hardware store. I hear that peanut
butter is good bait. Or you could use tender young orchid shoots,
maybe... *grin*

Another thing that gets rid of rodents is cats. The feline kind.
Even if they aren't hunting cats (they have to learn how to kill from
their mother, but they are born knowing how to stalk), they still scare
off rodents. Probably the smell, or the chasing, or something. Then
you have to worry about your cats chewing on your catts, of course.
Believe it or not, they can be trained. Maybe you can borrow a kitty
for a few weeks.

Rob

--
Rob's Rules: http://www.msu.edu/~halgren
1) There is always room for one more orchid
2) There is always room for two more orchids
2a. See rule 1
3) When one has insufficient credit to purchase
more orchids, obtain more credit

Rob Halgren 16-03-2004 08:24 PM

Disaster
 
Bob Walsh wrote:

I got to thinking (rare for me some would say) last night about your pest
control service. If what they did was to place bait or poison for the mice
rather than traps you may have serious problems for a few more days. Many of
the chemicals that are used for mice cause internal bleeding that greatly
increases their thirst. If nothing else is around for quenching their thirst
some nice juicy young shoots from some orchids will suffice.
I don't have a solution other than to suggest maybe setting some jar lids
full of water along the walls for them to drink. The poison will still get
them if they take the bait.




There is something to be said for the old 'snap' traps. Sure, it is
a little gross to clean them up, but is it any more disgusting than
finding rotting rodent carcasses under the dishwasher?

Anyway, the technology is established, the traps are cheap, and it
is probably more humane. Would you rather die from a quick 'snap' or a
long painful death by internal bleeding? I'd rather get hit on the head...

You can get the traps at any hardware store. I hear that peanut
butter is good bait. Or you could use tender young orchid shoots,
maybe... *grin*

Another thing that gets rid of rodents is cats. The feline kind.
Even if they aren't hunting cats (they have to learn how to kill from
their mother, but they are born knowing how to stalk), they still scare
off rodents. Probably the smell, or the chasing, or something. Then
you have to worry about your cats chewing on your catts, of course.
Believe it or not, they can be trained. Maybe you can borrow a kitty
for a few weeks.

Rob

--
Rob's Rules: http://www.msu.edu/~halgren
1) There is always room for one more orchid
2) There is always room for two more orchids
2a. See rule 1
3) When one has insufficient credit to purchase
more orchids, obtain more credit

GrlIntrpted 16-03-2004 10:00 PM

Disaster
 
The exterminator was here, and he set up bait "stations". They also dusted
the plumbing pipes. The exterminator warned us about the extra activity
that we might see after the treatment. To protect the plants he suggested
to outsmart the rodents by moving them to high areas or different areas from
where their normal spot is. I've done just that, and indeed the plants went
unharmed (though I did cover the orchids with a thin material too!).

Hopefully this will settle and the mice will be gone!

Mariana

"Bob Walsh" wrote in message
news:0KF5c.25327$J05.169478@attbi_s01...
I got to thinking (rare for me some would say) last night about your pest
control service. If what they did was to place bait or poison for the mice
rather than traps you may have serious problems for a few more days. Many

of
the chemicals that are used for mice cause internal bleeding that greatly
increases their thirst. If nothing else is around for quenching their

thirst
some nice juicy young shoots from some orchids will suffice.
I don't have a solution other than to suggest maybe setting some jar lids
full of water along the walls for them to drink. The poison will still get
them if they take the bait.

Bob

"Geir Harris Hedemark" wrote in message
...
"GrlIntrpted" writes:
not believe that this could happen, just like that, never ever
thought that mice go for orchids.....isn't vanilla the only edible
orchid? :(


You can only hope.

Geir






GrlIntrpted 16-03-2004 10:00 PM

Disaster
 
The exterminator was here, and he set up bait "stations". They also dusted
the plumbing pipes. The exterminator warned us about the extra activity
that we might see after the treatment. To protect the plants he suggested
to outsmart the rodents by moving them to high areas or different areas from
where their normal spot is. I've done just that, and indeed the plants went
unharmed (though I did cover the orchids with a thin material too!).

Hopefully this will settle and the mice will be gone!

Mariana

"Bob Walsh" wrote in message
news:0KF5c.25327$J05.169478@attbi_s01...
I got to thinking (rare for me some would say) last night about your pest
control service. If what they did was to place bait or poison for the mice
rather than traps you may have serious problems for a few more days. Many

of
the chemicals that are used for mice cause internal bleeding that greatly
increases their thirst. If nothing else is around for quenching their

thirst
some nice juicy young shoots from some orchids will suffice.
I don't have a solution other than to suggest maybe setting some jar lids
full of water along the walls for them to drink. The poison will still get
them if they take the bait.

Bob

"Geir Harris Hedemark" wrote in message
...
"GrlIntrpted" writes:
not believe that this could happen, just like that, never ever
thought that mice go for orchids.....isn't vanilla the only edible
orchid? :(


You can only hope.

Geir






GrlIntrpted 16-03-2004 11:29 PM

Disaster
 
The exterminator was here, and he set up bait "stations". They also dusted
the plumbing pipes. The exterminator warned us about the extra activity
that we might see after the treatment. To protect the plants he suggested
to outsmart the rodents by moving them to high areas or different areas from
where their normal spot is. I've done just that, and indeed the plants went
unharmed (though I did cover the orchids with a thin material too!).

Hopefully this will settle and the mice will be gone!

Mariana

"Bob Walsh" wrote in message
news:0KF5c.25327$J05.169478@attbi_s01...
I got to thinking (rare for me some would say) last night about your pest
control service. If what they did was to place bait or poison for the mice
rather than traps you may have serious problems for a few more days. Many

of
the chemicals that are used for mice cause internal bleeding that greatly
increases their thirst. If nothing else is around for quenching their

thirst
some nice juicy young shoots from some orchids will suffice.
I don't have a solution other than to suggest maybe setting some jar lids
full of water along the walls for them to drink. The poison will still get
them if they take the bait.

Bob

"Geir Harris Hedemark" wrote in message
...
"GrlIntrpted" writes:
not believe that this could happen, just like that, never ever
thought that mice go for orchids.....isn't vanilla the only edible
orchid? :(


You can only hope.

Geir






GrlIntrpted 16-03-2004 11:29 PM

Disaster
 
The exterminator was here, and he set up bait "stations". They also dusted
the plumbing pipes. The exterminator warned us about the extra activity
that we might see after the treatment. To protect the plants he suggested
to outsmart the rodents by moving them to high areas or different areas from
where their normal spot is. I've done just that, and indeed the plants went
unharmed (though I did cover the orchids with a thin material too!).

Hopefully this will settle and the mice will be gone!

Mariana

"Bob Walsh" wrote in message
news:0KF5c.25327$J05.169478@attbi_s01...
I got to thinking (rare for me some would say) last night about your pest
control service. If what they did was to place bait or poison for the mice
rather than traps you may have serious problems for a few more days. Many

of
the chemicals that are used for mice cause internal bleeding that greatly
increases their thirst. If nothing else is around for quenching their

thirst
some nice juicy young shoots from some orchids will suffice.
I don't have a solution other than to suggest maybe setting some jar lids
full of water along the walls for them to drink. The poison will still get
them if they take the bait.

Bob

"Geir Harris Hedemark" wrote in message
...
"GrlIntrpted" writes:
not believe that this could happen, just like that, never ever
thought that mice go for orchids.....isn't vanilla the only edible
orchid? :(


You can only hope.

Geir






GrlIntrpted 16-03-2004 11:30 PM

Disaster
 

Anyway, the technology is established, the traps are cheap, and it
is probably more humane. Would you rather die from a quick 'snap' or a
long painful death by internal bleeding? I'd rather get hit on the

head...

After they damaged my orchids, you honestly think I care how they go?


Another thing that gets rid of rodents is cats. The feline kind.
Even if they aren't hunting cats (they have to learn how to kill from
their mother, but they are born knowing how to stalk), they still scare
off rodents. Probably the smell, or the chasing, or something. Then
you have to worry about your cats chewing on your catts, of course.
Believe it or not, they can be trained. Maybe you can borrow a kitty
for a few weeks.


I would (even though I dislike cats), but I have two dogs in the house.

Mariana




GrlIntrpted 16-03-2004 11:30 PM

Disaster
 

Anyway, the technology is established, the traps are cheap, and it
is probably more humane. Would you rather die from a quick 'snap' or a
long painful death by internal bleeding? I'd rather get hit on the

head...

After they damaged my orchids, you honestly think I care how they go?


Another thing that gets rid of rodents is cats. The feline kind.
Even if they aren't hunting cats (they have to learn how to kill from
their mother, but they are born knowing how to stalk), they still scare
off rodents. Probably the smell, or the chasing, or something. Then
you have to worry about your cats chewing on your catts, of course.
Believe it or not, they can be trained. Maybe you can borrow a kitty
for a few weeks.


I would (even though I dislike cats), but I have two dogs in the house.

Mariana




Mark Fraser 16-03-2004 11:30 PM

Disaster
 
I don't know why, but rodents seem perversely attracted to
bulbophyllums. I saw what rats did to a BIG plant of Bulbophyllum
fleitcherianum(? not sure on the name)at the Australian National Botanic
Gardens in Canberra. Pseudobulbs the size of oranges and leaves a metre
long were just what the little monsters were after... and as for what
mice do to stanhopea flowers... the horror...the teethmarks...

At home our defence is an old fashioned one: two irascible cats.


Mark Fraser 16-03-2004 11:30 PM

Disaster
 
I don't know why, but rodents seem perversely attracted to
bulbophyllums. I saw what rats did to a BIG plant of Bulbophyllum
fleitcherianum(? not sure on the name)at the Australian National Botanic
Gardens in Canberra. Pseudobulbs the size of oranges and leaves a metre
long were just what the little monsters were after... and as for what
mice do to stanhopea flowers... the horror...the teethmarks...

At home our defence is an old fashioned one: two irascible cats.


RPM1 17-03-2004 11:31 AM

Disaster
 
"Rob Halgren"
There is something to be said for the old 'snap' traps.


Absolutely!

Sure, it is
a little gross to clean them up, but is it any more disgusting than
finding rotting rodent carcasses under the dishwasher?


Or =not= finding them as they bubble, rot and stink
between the walls somewhere for the next 3 months!
No thanks. Just a quick whack and done! The traps
are cheap enough to be disposable if cleaning them
out is too icky.

Ruth CM




RPM1 17-03-2004 11:31 AM

Disaster
 
"Rob Halgren"
There is something to be said for the old 'snap' traps.


Absolutely!

Sure, it is
a little gross to clean them up, but is it any more disgusting than
finding rotting rodent carcasses under the dishwasher?


Or =not= finding them as they bubble, rot and stink
between the walls somewhere for the next 3 months!
No thanks. Just a quick whack and done! The traps
are cheap enough to be disposable if cleaning them
out is too icky.

Ruth CM




RPM1 17-03-2004 11:35 AM

Disaster
 
"Rob Halgren"
There is something to be said for the old 'snap' traps.


Absolutely!

Sure, it is
a little gross to clean them up, but is it any more disgusting than
finding rotting rodent carcasses under the dishwasher?


Or =not= finding them as they bubble, rot and stink
between the walls somewhere for the next 3 months!
No thanks. Just a quick whack and done! The traps
are cheap enough to be disposable if cleaning them
out is too icky.

Ruth CM




theoneflasehaddock 17-03-2004 06:05 PM

Disaster
 
Subject: Disaster
From: "GrlIntrpted"
Date: 3/16/2004 3:25 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:


Anyway, the technology is established, the traps are cheap, and it
is probably more humane. Would you rather die from a quick 'snap' or a
long painful death by internal bleeding? I'd rather get hit on the

head...

After they damaged my orchids, you honestly think I care how they go?


Another thing that gets rid of rodents is cats. The feline kind.
Even if they aren't hunting cats (they have to learn how to kill from
their mother, but they are born knowing how to stalk), they still scare
off rodents. Probably the smell, or the chasing, or something. Then
you have to worry about your cats chewing on your catts, of course.
Believe it or not, they can be trained. Maybe you can borrow a kitty
for a few weeks.


I would (even though I dislike cats), but I have two dogs in the house.


Damn, then you'll have to be sure they don't get the bait, or eat the poisoned
rodents as well.

-

theoneflasehaddock


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