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amatol 28-05-2004 03:06 PM

Disa plants
 
Does anyone know of a source to purchase Disa plants in USA? Thanks, Dan



wendy7 28-05-2004 03:06 PM

Disa plants
 
Hi there Dan, I bought a couple of these without reading up on them.
They require special treatment & so I killed mine but did get them to bloom
the
first year.
Wally is super nice, helpful & had great plants.
http://corchard.home.comcast.net/
--
Cheers Wendy

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Eric Hunt 28-05-2004 06:02 PM

Disa plants
 
Dan,

http://www.disas.com/

is a good place to start reading up on Disas.

-Eric in SF

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tbell 29-05-2004 08:03 PM

Disa plants
 
On Fri, 28 May 2004 06:23:45 -0700, amatol wrote
(in article ):

Does anyone know of a source to purchase Disa plants in USA? Thanks, Dan


You might try the following link for further Disa links:
http://www.disas.com/links.htm.

Tom
Walnut Creek, CA
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profpam 30-05-2004 10:06 PM

Disa plants
 
Hi Wendy,

I, too, have had Disas bloom once then die. Conditions where they grow better
seems to be the more acidic water environment on the east coast -- more acidic
conditions vs. more alkalaid such as in southern California. I am also of the
assumption that unless the orchid is strong enough then do not allow it to go
ahead and bloom and in particular produce a pod. It seems that an orchid that
is about to die sometimes produces a bloom and subsequent pod as a means of
survival; so, in my estimation Bob Gordon of phalaenopsis fame is correct.

.. . . Pam
Everything Orchid Management System http://www.pe.net/~profpam/page3.html

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wendy7 wrote:

Hi there Dan, I bought a couple of these without reading up on them.
They require special treatment & so I killed mine but did get them to bloom
the
first year.
Wally is super nice, helpful & had great plants.
http://corchard.home.comcast.net/
--
Cheers Wendy

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tennis maynard 31-05-2004 02:05 AM

Disa plants
 
profpam wrote:

Hi Wendy,

I, too, have had Disas bloom once then die. Conditions where they grow better
seems to be the more acidic water environment on the east coast -- more acidic
conditions vs. more alkalaid such as in southern California. I am also of the
assumption that unless the orchid is strong enough then do not allow it to go
ahead and bloom and in particular produce a pod. It seems that an orchid that
is about to die sometimes produces a bloom and subsequent pod as a means of
survival; so, in my estimation Bob Gordon of phalaenopsis fame is correct.

. . . Pam


The problem with disas is we simply don't know them well enough. All the
experienced growers I've talked with say a plant either forms tubers
(and therefore continues to exist) or does not. No one really seems to
have a handle on why, yet. My beautiful white/pink disa which bloomed
last summer failed to produce tubers. So, when the current year's growth
dies, if there are no tubers, that's it for the plant. I'm on my fourth
round of growing Disas. The first three times I killed tham all. This
time, I have plants I got 2 years ago in the early spring still going,
and two bloomed last Chistmas as well. Absolutely pure water and low
root temps especially at night are essential. They are very
labor-intensive for me.


profpam 03-06-2004 12:06 AM

Disa plants
 
Yes, I agree with you regarding the tubers. I, too, have found this to be the case
in Disas. So, we actually need to make it one of the points in the growing of this
genus. Thanks, Tennis for calling this to my attention.

.. . . Pam
Everything Orchid Management System http://www.pe.net/~profpam/page3.html
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

tennis maynard wrote:

profpam wrote:

Hi Wendy,

I, too, have had Disas bloom once then die. Conditions where they grow better
seems to be the more acidic water environment on the east coast -- more acidic
conditions vs. more alkalaid such as in southern California. I am also of the
assumption that unless the orchid is strong enough then do not allow it to go
ahead and bloom and in particular produce a pod. It seems that an orchid that
is about to die sometimes produces a bloom and subsequent pod as a means of
survival; so, in my estimation Bob Gordon of phalaenopsis fame is correct.

. . . Pam


The problem with disas is we simply don't know them well enough. All the
experienced growers I've talked with say a plant either forms tubers
(and therefore continues to exist) or does not. No one really seems to
have a handle on why, yet. My beautiful white/pink disa which bloomed
last summer failed to produce tubers. So, when the current year's growth
dies, if there are no tubers, that's it for the plant. I'm on my fourth
round of growing Disas. The first three times I killed tham all. This
time, I have plants I got 2 years ago in the early spring still going,
and two bloomed last Chistmas as well. Absolutely pure water and low
root temps especially at night are essential. They are very
labor-intensive for me.



mg 30-07-2004 02:04 AM

Disa plants
 
Ray, any experience with Disas in semi-hydro?


tennis maynard wrote:
profpam wrote:

Hi Wendy,

I, too, have had Disas bloom once then die. Conditions where they grow
better
seems to be the more acidic water environment on the east coast --
more acidic
conditions vs. more alkalaid such as in southern California. I am
also of the
assumption that unless the orchid is strong enough then do not allow
it to go
ahead and bloom and in particular produce a pod. It seems that an
orchid that
is about to die sometimes produces a bloom and subsequent pod as a
means of
survival; so, in my estimation Bob Gordon of phalaenopsis fame is
correct.

. . . Pam



The problem with disas is we simply don't know them well enough. All the
experienced growers I've talked with say a plant either forms tubers
(and therefore continues to exist) or does not. No one really seems to
have a handle on why, yet. My beautiful white/pink disa which bloomed
last summer failed to produce tubers. So, when the current year's growth
dies, if there are no tubers, that's it for the plant. I'm on my fourth
round of growing Disas. The first three times I killed tham all. This
time, I have plants I got 2 years ago in the early spring still going,
and two bloomed last Chistmas as well. Absolutely pure water and low
root temps especially at night are essential. They are very
labor-intensive for me.



Ray 30-07-2004 11:27 AM

Disa plants
 
Nope. Never even grown them.

Judging by Ed Merkle's experience and postings, I don't see why it would be
an issue.

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!
..
"mg" wrote in message ...
Ray, any experience with Disas in semi-hydro?


tennis maynard wrote:
profpam wrote:

Hi Wendy,

I, too, have had Disas bloom once then die. Conditions where they grow
better
seems to be the more acidic water environment on the east coast --
more acidic
conditions vs. more alkalaid such as in southern California. I am
also of the
assumption that unless the orchid is strong enough then do not allow
it to go
ahead and bloom and in particular produce a pod. It seems that an
orchid that
is about to die sometimes produces a bloom and subsequent pod as a
means of
survival; so, in my estimation Bob Gordon of phalaenopsis fame is
correct.

. . . Pam



The problem with disas is we simply don't know them well enough. All the
experienced growers I've talked with say a plant either forms tubers
(and therefore continues to exist) or does not. No one really seems to
have a handle on why, yet. My beautiful white/pink disa which bloomed
last summer failed to produce tubers. So, when the current year's growth
dies, if there are no tubers, that's it for the plant. I'm on my fourth
round of growing Disas. The first three times I killed tham all. This
time, I have plants I got 2 years ago in the early spring still going,
and two bloomed last Chistmas as well. Absolutely pure water and low
root temps especially at night are essential. They are very
labor-intensive for me.






Ray 30-07-2004 11:27 AM

Disa plants
 
Nope. Never even grown them.

Judging by Ed Merkle's experience and postings, I don't see why it would be
an issue.

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!
..
"mg" wrote in message ...
Ray, any experience with Disas in semi-hydro?


tennis maynard wrote:
profpam wrote:

Hi Wendy,

I, too, have had Disas bloom once then die. Conditions where they grow
better
seems to be the more acidic water environment on the east coast --
more acidic
conditions vs. more alkalaid such as in southern California. I am
also of the
assumption that unless the orchid is strong enough then do not allow
it to go
ahead and bloom and in particular produce a pod. It seems that an
orchid that
is about to die sometimes produces a bloom and subsequent pod as a
means of
survival; so, in my estimation Bob Gordon of phalaenopsis fame is
correct.

. . . Pam



The problem with disas is we simply don't know them well enough. All the
experienced growers I've talked with say a plant either forms tubers
(and therefore continues to exist) or does not. No one really seems to
have a handle on why, yet. My beautiful white/pink disa which bloomed
last summer failed to produce tubers. So, when the current year's growth
dies, if there are no tubers, that's it for the plant. I'm on my fourth
round of growing Disas. The first three times I killed tham all. This
time, I have plants I got 2 years ago in the early spring still going,
and two bloomed last Chistmas as well. Absolutely pure water and low
root temps especially at night are essential. They are very
labor-intensive for me.






Susan Erickson 01-08-2004 04:27 AM

Disa plants
 
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 06:27:40 -0400, "Ray"
wrote:

Nope. Never even grown them.

Judging by Ed Merkle's experience and postings, I don't see why it would be
an issue.


The only thing I have ever heard about Dias plants is the NEED
for GOOD - Make that PURE water. They are fussy. But that was
back when people first were growing them. Maybe there is better
information out now.
SuE
http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php

Susan Erickson 01-08-2004 04:27 AM

Disa plants
 
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 06:27:40 -0400, "Ray"
wrote:

Nope. Never even grown them.

Judging by Ed Merkle's experience and postings, I don't see why it would be
an issue.


The only thing I have ever heard about Dias plants is the NEED
for GOOD - Make that PURE water. They are fussy. But that was
back when people first were growing them. Maybe there is better
information out now.
SuE
http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php

Hillevi P 02-08-2004 11:43 AM

Disa plants
 

"mg" skrev i meddelandet ...
Ray, any experience with Disas in semi-hydro?


tennis maynard wrote:
profpam wrote:

Hi Wendy,

I, too, have had Disas bloom once then die. Conditions where they grow
better
seems to be the more acidic water environment on the east coast --
more acidic
conditions vs. more alkalaid such as in southern California. I am
also of the
assumption that unless the orchid is strong enough then do not allow
it to go
ahead and bloom and in particular produce a pod. It seems that an
orchid that
is about to die sometimes produces a bloom and subsequent pod as a
means of
survival; so, in my estimation Bob Gordon of phalaenopsis fame is
correct.

. . . Pam



The problem with disas is we simply don't know them well enough. All the
experienced growers I've talked with say a plant either forms tubers
(and therefore continues to exist) or does not. No one really seems to
have a handle on why, yet. My beautiful white/pink disa which bloomed
last summer failed to produce tubers. So, when the current year's growth
dies, if there are no tubers, that's it for the plant. I'm on my fourth
round of growing Disas. The first three times I killed tham all. This
time, I have plants I got 2 years ago in the early spring still going,
and two bloomed last Chistmas as well. Absolutely pure water and low
root temps especially at night are essential. They are very
labor-intensive for me.



Some people in the swedish orchid society have tried growing Disas in
semi-hydro, experiencing that leca seems to be too "not-retentive" of water
(I'm going to ignore the grammar, etc in this post, and blame it on english
not being my mother tongue and me being tired =) ).

A danish guy posted on our messageboard, telling us about experiments
growing Disa in perlite and/or Greenmix. It had not worked, due (he
theorized) to the roots not getting enough oxygen.

I believe, or at least would like to try, to grow Disa in Diatomite. As it
holds water but is coarse enough to allow roots to get contact with air.
Maybe try with some similar but easier terrestrial first would be a good
idea?

//Hillevi



tennis maynard 02-08-2004 03:10 PM

Disa plants
 
Hillevi P wrote:
Some people in the swedish orchid society have tried growing Disas in
semi-hydro, experiencing that leca seems to be too "not-retentive" of water
(I'm going to ignore the grammar, etc in this post, and blame it on english
not being my mother tongue and me being tired =) ).

A danish guy posted on our messageboard, telling us about experiments
growing Disa in perlite and/or Greenmix. It had not worked, due (he
theorized) to the roots not getting enough oxygen.

I believe, or at least would like to try, to grow Disa in Diatomite. As it
holds water but is coarse enough to allow roots to get contact with air.
Maybe try with some similar but easier terrestrial first would be a good
idea?

//Hillevi


Actually, that sounds loke a good idea for disas. I would think they'd
have to be watered very often in diatomite, but I think the diatomite
would be a much closer match to their natural substrate than anything else.


tennis maynard 02-08-2004 03:10 PM

Disa plants
 
Hillevi P wrote:
Some people in the swedish orchid society have tried growing Disas in
semi-hydro, experiencing that leca seems to be too "not-retentive" of water
(I'm going to ignore the grammar, etc in this post, and blame it on english
not being my mother tongue and me being tired =) ).

A danish guy posted on our messageboard, telling us about experiments
growing Disa in perlite and/or Greenmix. It had not worked, due (he
theorized) to the roots not getting enough oxygen.

I believe, or at least would like to try, to grow Disa in Diatomite. As it
holds water but is coarse enough to allow roots to get contact with air.
Maybe try with some similar but easier terrestrial first would be a good
idea?

//Hillevi


Actually, that sounds loke a good idea for disas. I would think they'd
have to be watered very often in diatomite, but I think the diatomite
would be a much closer match to their natural substrate than anything else.



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