How to Hang Shade Cloth???
Hi Everyone,
I am putting the finishing touches on my gh before moving my orchids in to it. Shade Cloth.... what to do???? 1. Is it best to suspend the cloth so that it does not lay directly on the polycarbonate panels? 2. If so, can I get some ideas from some of you on how you achieved this? My gh is 15' X 16'. It has roof vents on each side (2' x 8') and they are opened by solar-powered vent openers that lift them a maximum of 12" high. It also has side vents on each side (same dimensions as roof vents). I am probably going to go with Aluminet shade cloth. 50 or 60% shading. Any one with experience with this type? Or, alternatively using white shade cloth. Any ideas would be appreciated! Lori Aptos, CA (SF Bay Area) |
How to Hang Shade Cloth???
It's is usually better to provide an air space between the cloth and the greenhouse cover to allow
the dissipation of the heat that builds up. That can be done by placing pvc pipe (or some other rod) at the roof-wall joins and at the peak, suspended about 6" or more above the glazing. However, if you're looking at Aluminet, the heat buildup is supposed to be far less of an issue, so may not need the spacing. -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! .. . . . . . . . . . . "Lori Siegmund" wrote in message om... Hi Everyone, I am putting the finishing touches on my gh before moving my orchids in to it. Shade Cloth.... what to do???? 1. Is it best to suspend the cloth so that it does not lay directly on the polycarbonate panels? 2. If so, can I get some ideas from some of you on how you achieved this? My gh is 15' X 16'. It has roof vents on each side (2' x 8') and they are opened by solar-powered vent openers that lift them a maximum of 12" high. It also has side vents on each side (same dimensions as roof vents). I am probably going to go with Aluminet shade cloth. 50 or 60% shading. Any one with experience with this type? Or, alternatively using white shade cloth. Any ideas would be appreciated! Lori Aptos, CA (SF Bay Area) |
How to Hang Shade Cloth???
On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 09:40:00 -0700, Lori Siegmund wrote
(in article ) : Hi Everyone, I am putting the finishing touches on my gh before moving my orchids in to it. Shade Cloth.... what to do???? 1. Is it best to suspend the cloth so that it does not lay directly on the polycarbonate panels? 2. If so, can I get some ideas from some of you on how you achieved this? Lori, I've lifted the shadecloth off the polycarbonate with a rig made from 3/4" PVC pipe and couplings, interrupting the pipe every 4' with a supportive foot. Tom Walnut Creek, CA To reply by e-mail, remove APPENDIX |
How to Hang Shade Cloth???
Tom, Ray, Doug,
Thank you for your input. Sounds like I am envisioning the same thing as all of you have described. An alternative that was proposed to me by a contractor friend was something like this: __________ | /\ | | / \ | | / \ | | | | | | | | | _____|_|____|_|________ The inner lines of this crude diagram is the gh. Bottom line is the ground. The two lines parallel the the sides of the greenhouse are metal poles (think flagpoles).There would be four metal poles (one cemented in to the ground in each corner of the gh. The height of the poles would be one foot above the roof peak of the gh. There would be metal cable connected between each of the poles at the top. The each side of the shade cloth would be attached a line of cable. If you were looking down from a very tall tree, the shade cloth would hang flat; suspended over the gh like this: ___________ | | | | | | | | |_________| Essentially, this is constructing a shade structure around the gh. I suppose I could then hang panels to shade the sides of the gh from the same cable that is helping to suspend each side of the top panel above the gh. Have any of you seen this done? It sound extravagant and more expensive to do than the other options presented by this forum. Also, Tom (from Walnut Creek, CA) do you leave your shade cloth in place all year around? What type of gh do you maintain (cool, intermediate, warm) and what type of orchids are you growing? Thanks! Lori Siegmund tbell wrote in message ... On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 09:40:00 -0700, Lori Siegmund wrote (in article ) : Hi Everyone, I am putting the finishing touches on my gh before moving my orchids in to it. Shade Cloth.... what to do???? 1. Is it best to suspend the cloth so that it does not lay directly on the polycarbonate panels? 2. If so, can I get some ideas from some of you on how you achieved this? Lori, I've lifted the shadecloth off the polycarbonate with a rig made from 3/4" PVC pipe and couplings, interrupting the pipe every 4' with a supportive foot. Tom Walnut Creek, CA To reply by e-mail, remove APPENDIX |
How to Hang Shade Cloth???
Hi Lori, I have my shade cloth structure set up like this but it covers my
entire back yard. Just remember to check the suns direction as the shade from the shade cloth doesn't always cover the area that you have the structure.??? Hope this makes sense? -- Cheers Wendy Remove PETERPAN for email reply Lori Siegmund wrote: Tom, Ray, Doug, Thank you for your input. Sounds like I am envisioning the same thing as all of you have described. An alternative that was proposed to me by a contractor friend was something like this: __________ | /\ | | / \ | | / \ | | | | | | | | | _____|_|____|_|________ The inner lines of this crude diagram is the gh. Bottom line is the ground. The two lines parallel the the sides of the greenhouse are metal poles (think flagpoles).There would be four metal poles (one cemented in to the ground in each corner of the gh. The height of the poles would be one foot above the roof peak of the gh. There would be metal cable connected between each of the poles at the top. The each side of the shade cloth would be attached a line of cable. If you were looking down from a very tall tree, the shade cloth would hang flat; suspended over the gh like this: ___________ | | | | | | | | |_________| Essentially, this is constructing a shade structure around the gh. I suppose I could then hang panels to shade the sides of the gh from the same cable that is helping to suspend each side of the top panel above the gh. Have any of you seen this done? It sound extravagant and more expensive to do than the other options presented by this forum. Also, Tom (from Walnut Creek, CA) do you leave your shade cloth in place all year around? What type of gh do you maintain (cool, intermediate, warm) and what type of orchids are you growing? Thanks! Lori Siegmund tbell wrote in message ... On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 09:40:00 -0700, Lori Siegmund wrote (in article ) : Hi Everyone, I am putting the finishing touches on my gh before moving my orchids in to it. Shade Cloth.... what to do???? 1. Is it best to suspend the cloth so that it does not lay directly on the polycarbonate panels? 2. If so, can I get some ideas from some of you on how you achieved this? Lori, I've lifted the shadecloth off the polycarbonate with a rig made from 3/4" PVC pipe and couplings, interrupting the pipe every 4' with a supportive foot. Tom Walnut Creek, CA To reply by e-mail, remove APPENDIX |
How to Hang Shade Cloth???
Do the same thing with PVC pipe - and fittings - it will cost less...
Run a 3 inch in diameter pipe on the ground - at the end of the pipes put "T" fittings facing up - On the ends of the "T" fittings that are not needed for more length put clean out plugs. In the verticals of the "T" put in standard 3 inch pipe If you have to go more than one pipe length high use an "X" or "T" fitting to allow you to tie the verticals together. When you are high enough At the top use a "X" or a "T" fitting to again tie them together and to allow another short pipe to run up to a standard 90 degree elbow. Run pipe across the top of the green house. Hang your shade cloth from it. As you build the frame, fill it with water - this will add the weight that you need to keep the wind and the weather from moving it. PVC is cheaper than metal, cuts with a hand saw and can be force fit without glue. If you plan to leave it up year round - then glue the daylights out of the frame - since mine has to come down in the winter (Michigan) - it is not glued at all. I have to add some water every couple of weeks. DO NOT add enough water to fill the pipes that cross the top of the greenhouse - the sag is something you do not want to see. Doug In article , (Lori Siegmund) wrote: Tom, Ray, Doug, Thank you for your input. Sounds like I am envisioning the same thing as all of you have described. An alternative that was proposed to me by a contractor friend was something like this: __________ | /\ | | / \ | | / \ | | | | | | | | | _____|_|____|_|________ The inner lines of this crude diagram is the gh. Bottom line is the ground. The two lines parallel the the sides of the greenhouse are metal poles (think flagpoles).There would be four metal poles (one cemented in to the ground in each corner of the gh. The height of the poles would be one foot above the roof peak of the gh. There would be metal cable connected between each of the poles at the top. The each side of the shade cloth would be attached a line of cable. If you were looking down from a very tall tree, the shade cloth would hang flat; suspended over the gh like this: ___________ | | | | | | | | |_________| Essentially, this is constructing a shade structure around the gh. I suppose I could then hang panels to shade the sides of the gh from the same cable that is helping to suspend each side of the top panel above the gh. Have any of you seen this done? It sound extravagant and more expensive to do than the other options presented by this forum. Also, Tom (from Walnut Creek, CA) do you leave your shade cloth in place all year around? What type of gh do you maintain (cool, intermediate, warm) and what type of orchids are you growing? Thanks! Lori Siegmund |
How to Hang Shade Cloth???
On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 12:29:04 -0700, Lori Siegmund wrote
(in article ) : Lori - Your approach sounds very reasonable. In Walnut Creek, where the ambient nocturnal low in Winter is in the 30's or 40's F, and the diurnal high in Summer is most often between 90 and 110š F, my little 8 x 10 GH is almost always between 50š and 90š. I cover the roof and coved sides with 60% shadecloth from late May through October, heat during the Winter nights with a thermostatically controlled, 1500 Watt electric fan heater, cool during Summer days with a thermostatically controlled exhaust fan, and keep the humidity at 60-70% with a gravel floor and a very good misting system. I had one devastating experience with a power failure while I was away during an October hot spell, but have otherwise had pretty good luck with Catts, Laelias, Dens, Oncs, Brassias, an ascoscenda, an angraecum, and in the shady section (under a nearby orange tree), have a young Phrag and an Aeranthis. Hope this is helpful. Tom Walnut Creek, CA To reply by e-mail, remove APPENDIX |
How to Hang Shade Cloth???
Tom, Wendy, Doug...
Thank you so much for taking the time to share the details of your experience with shade cloth and how to hang. I am going to start pricing the materials for the shade cloth frame and will let you know what I end up with! I was hoping to have "orchid occupancy" in that gh by June 1.... looks like it will be July 1 or shortly thereafter. If only I didn't work full time.... it would get done so much faster! But then, how would I pay for it all.... right???? Lori |
How to Hang Shade Cloth???
Lori,
Those with experience with shadecloth,not me, may offer some input on the possibility of the cable, if you use it, fraying the cloth. If you go with cable consider running it through plastic pipe or a hose. Bob "Lori Siegmund" wrote in message om... Tom, Wendy, Doug... Thank you so much for taking the time to share the details of your experience with shade cloth and how to hang. I am going to start pricing the materials for the shade cloth frame and will let you know what I end up with! I was hoping to have "orchid occupancy" in that gh by June 1.... looks like it will be July 1 or shortly thereafter. If only I didn't work full time.... it would get done so much faster! But then, how would I pay for it all.... right???? Lori |
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