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J Fortuna 15-09-2004 11:41 PM

Paph new spike versus new leaf
 
How can one tell whether a Paph is starting a new spike or growing a new
leaf?

The reason why I am asking is: I mail ordered a Paph malipoense in-spike. It
got delivered today, with a note stating that it is just starting a new
spike in the new growth. It looks like a new leaf to me. But then I
remembered that my very first Paph also looked like it was going to have a
new leaf before I left for vacation, and when I came back it had a new
spike. So I am willing to accept that this _may_ be a new spike even though
it looks like a leaf ... But I would like to know whether there is a way to
know for sure whether this is a spike or just another leaf. Is there
something that I can look for to tell? Is this something that people who
have been around Paphs long enough just know? Or is it an educated guess,
based on the number of leaves for example?

What I would like to know in part is, whether or not I may have been ripped
off, since the plant was sold to me as "in-spike", and I may not have bought
it if it had been listed as "blooming size" but not in spike. I am willing
to give it the benefit of a doubt that it may be in spike, but it really
looks to me like it is just "in-leaf".

Joanna (who can already tell a Phal spike from an aerial root very early on,
but alas still has much more to learn about Paphs)



TQPL 16-09-2004 12:38 AM

Hi Joanna,

If you give it time all will be revealed.
However if you are impatient the following might
help.

Flower buds are generally fatter so they should
feel 'thicker' in the growth.

You might be able to shine a torch behind the
growth and look through the leaves to see the
outline of the flower bud. The pigmentation on
P.malipoense might prove a bit of a problem as
this works better for the strap leafed plants.

Hope this helps.
Hope it is a flower.

Flower bud formation is not simply a factor of the
number of leaves.
With regards
Alan








"J Fortuna" wrote
in message news:ky32d.6786$lX.202@trnddc04...
How can one tell whether a Paph is starting a

new spike or growing a new
leaf?

The reason why I am asking is: I mail ordered a

Paph malipoense in-spike. It
got delivered today, with a note stating that it

is just starting a new
spike in the new growth. It looks like a new

leaf to me. But then I
remembered that my very first Paph also looked

like it was going to have a
new leaf before I left for vacation, and when I

came back it had a new
spike. So I am willing to accept that this _may_

be a new spike even though
it looks like a leaf ... But I would like to

know whether there is a way to
know for sure whether this is a spike or just

another leaf. Is there
something that I can look for to tell? Is this

something that people who
have been around Paphs long enough just know? Or

is it an educated guess,
based on the number of leaves for example?

What I would like to know in part is, whether or

not I may have been ripped
off, since the plant was sold to me as

"in-spike", and I may not have bought
it if it had been listed as "blooming size" but

not in spike. I am willing
to give it the benefit of a doubt that it may be

in spike, but it really
looks to me like it is just "in-leaf".

Joanna (who can already tell a Phal spike from

an aerial root very early on,
but alas still has much more to learn about

Paphs)





TQPL 16-09-2004 12:38 AM

Hi Joanna,

If you give it time all will be revealed.
However if you are impatient the following might
help.

Flower buds are generally fatter so they should
feel 'thicker' in the growth.

You might be able to shine a torch behind the
growth and look through the leaves to see the
outline of the flower bud. The pigmentation on
P.malipoense might prove a bit of a problem as
this works better for the strap leafed plants.

Hope this helps.
Hope it is a flower.

Flower bud formation is not simply a factor of the
number of leaves.
With regards
Alan








"J Fortuna" wrote
in message news:ky32d.6786$lX.202@trnddc04...
How can one tell whether a Paph is starting a

new spike or growing a new
leaf?

The reason why I am asking is: I mail ordered a

Paph malipoense in-spike. It
got delivered today, with a note stating that it

is just starting a new
spike in the new growth. It looks like a new

leaf to me. But then I
remembered that my very first Paph also looked

like it was going to have a
new leaf before I left for vacation, and when I

came back it had a new
spike. So I am willing to accept that this _may_

be a new spike even though
it looks like a leaf ... But I would like to

know whether there is a way to
know for sure whether this is a spike or just

another leaf. Is there
something that I can look for to tell? Is this

something that people who
have been around Paphs long enough just know? Or

is it an educated guess,
based on the number of leaves for example?

What I would like to know in part is, whether or

not I may have been ripped
off, since the plant was sold to me as

"in-spike", and I may not have bought
it if it had been listed as "blooming size" but

not in spike. I am willing
to give it the benefit of a doubt that it may be

in spike, but it really
looks to me like it is just "in-leaf".

Joanna (who can already tell a Phal spike from

an aerial root very early on,
but alas still has much more to learn about

Paphs)





TRAINMAN9 16-09-2004 03:18 PM

What I would like to know in part is, whether or not I may have been ripped
off, since the plant was sold to me as "in-spike",

Did you pay more for the plant? If so and it is not in spike perhaps you might
feel like you were ripped off. If you feel that you did not get what you
expected why not contact the seller and arrange to send the plant back.

I may not have bought
it if it had been listed as "blooming size" but not in spike.


If you wanted this particular species why would you have not purchased it just
because it was not in spike but was of blooming size.

Buying a plant in spike or bud does not guarantee that it will bloom. The buds
and spikes can be damaged in shipping regardless of how well they are packaged.
I don't know of any orchid supplier selling mail order or shipping plants that
would guarantee the blooms on a plant.




TRAINMAN9 16-09-2004 03:18 PM

What I would like to know in part is, whether or not I may have been ripped
off, since the plant was sold to me as "in-spike",

Did you pay more for the plant? If so and it is not in spike perhaps you might
feel like you were ripped off. If you feel that you did not get what you
expected why not contact the seller and arrange to send the plant back.

I may not have bought
it if it had been listed as "blooming size" but not in spike.


If you wanted this particular species why would you have not purchased it just
because it was not in spike but was of blooming size.

Buying a plant in spike or bud does not guarantee that it will bloom. The buds
and spikes can be damaged in shipping regardless of how well they are packaged.
I don't know of any orchid supplier selling mail order or shipping plants that
would guarantee the blooms on a plant.




J Fortuna 16-09-2004 11:56 PM


You know how sometimes one posts a post to a newsgroup and then wishes one
had not posted it or wishes one had phrased it differently? Well that's how
I felt yesterday. I shouldn't have said this:

"TRAINMAN9" wrote in message
...
What I would like to know in part is, whether or not I may have been

ripped
off, since the plant was sold to me as "in-spike",

Did you pay more for the plant? If so and it is not in spike perhaps you

might
feel like you were ripped off. If you feel that you did not get what you
expected why not contact the seller and arrange to send the plant back.


In my defense I sent the post off at a time when I was not fully
decompressed from worked yet, and so I was grumpy, and that influenced how I
phrased this. The grumpiness though was not the fault of the paph or the
vendor it came from. No, I did not pay more because of the in-spike. Even
though I have seen that some vendors do sell plants in spike for more money
than blooming size, but this plant was not bought from one of them. And I
have absolutely no intention of returning the plant. It's one of mine now,
and I will watch it like a mother hen every day checking out that spike or
leaf to see whether I can tell which it is over time. :-)

If you wanted this particular species why would you have not purchased it

just
because it was not in spike but was of blooming size.

Buying a plant in spike or bud does not guarantee that it will bloom. The

buds
and spikes can be damaged in shipping regardless of how well they are

packaged.
I don't know of any orchid supplier selling mail order or shipping plants

that
would guarantee the blooms on a plant.


I am already comfortable enough with Phals to buy them blooming size or even
near-blooming size because I have had Phals spike and rebloom for me enough
times for me to believe that they will do so again. But I am still too new
to Paphs (bought my first Paph in January), and thus I am still uncertain
about my Paph growing skill. That first Paph that I purchased in January has
already rebloomed for me. But still. Rationally I know that if Phals like it
in my environment, Paphs should too. I also know that in-spike does not
guarantee blooming -- if nothing else my cochleanthes amazonica has taught
me that. Rationally I know therefore that I ought to be as comfortable about
buying a Paph in-spike as buying it blooming size. But who said that I am
fully rational???

The only rational thing in my defense is that I am an impatient person, and
I have already heard that paph malipoense spikes for a long time and that
that's an understatement. This does not change the fact that I am very glad
to have this plant in my collection now, and I am still very excited about
it, and looking forward to it blooming eventually. However, if this is a new
leaf and not a new spike after all, then I will not only have to wait for
the spike to develop but for it to actually start a new spike, so my
wait-time will be longer, and I will have to be more patient for an even
longer amount of time. Ok, so maybe that's not exactly "rational" but hey,
I'm a woman, we are not supposed to be fully rational, right?

Joanna



J Fortuna 16-09-2004 11:56 PM


You know how sometimes one posts a post to a newsgroup and then wishes one
had not posted it or wishes one had phrased it differently? Well that's how
I felt yesterday. I shouldn't have said this:

"TRAINMAN9" wrote in message
...
What I would like to know in part is, whether or not I may have been

ripped
off, since the plant was sold to me as "in-spike",

Did you pay more for the plant? If so and it is not in spike perhaps you

might
feel like you were ripped off. If you feel that you did not get what you
expected why not contact the seller and arrange to send the plant back.


In my defense I sent the post off at a time when I was not fully
decompressed from worked yet, and so I was grumpy, and that influenced how I
phrased this. The grumpiness though was not the fault of the paph or the
vendor it came from. No, I did not pay more because of the in-spike. Even
though I have seen that some vendors do sell plants in spike for more money
than blooming size, but this plant was not bought from one of them. And I
have absolutely no intention of returning the plant. It's one of mine now,
and I will watch it like a mother hen every day checking out that spike or
leaf to see whether I can tell which it is over time. :-)

If you wanted this particular species why would you have not purchased it

just
because it was not in spike but was of blooming size.

Buying a plant in spike or bud does not guarantee that it will bloom. The

buds
and spikes can be damaged in shipping regardless of how well they are

packaged.
I don't know of any orchid supplier selling mail order or shipping plants

that
would guarantee the blooms on a plant.


I am already comfortable enough with Phals to buy them blooming size or even
near-blooming size because I have had Phals spike and rebloom for me enough
times for me to believe that they will do so again. But I am still too new
to Paphs (bought my first Paph in January), and thus I am still uncertain
about my Paph growing skill. That first Paph that I purchased in January has
already rebloomed for me. But still. Rationally I know that if Phals like it
in my environment, Paphs should too. I also know that in-spike does not
guarantee blooming -- if nothing else my cochleanthes amazonica has taught
me that. Rationally I know therefore that I ought to be as comfortable about
buying a Paph in-spike as buying it blooming size. But who said that I am
fully rational???

The only rational thing in my defense is that I am an impatient person, and
I have already heard that paph malipoense spikes for a long time and that
that's an understatement. This does not change the fact that I am very glad
to have this plant in my collection now, and I am still very excited about
it, and looking forward to it blooming eventually. However, if this is a new
leaf and not a new spike after all, then I will not only have to wait for
the spike to develop but for it to actually start a new spike, so my
wait-time will be longer, and I will have to be more patient for an even
longer amount of time. Ok, so maybe that's not exactly "rational" but hey,
I'm a woman, we are not supposed to be fully rational, right?

Joanna



Steve 17-09-2004 04:53 AM



J Fortuna wrote:
How can one tell whether a Paph is starting a new spike or growing a new
leaf?........................................


Joanna, I have a suggestion that may or may not help. I have a Paph
callosum that I have bloomed a dozen times at least. I can always tell
when that one is getting ready to bloom. Paphs always grow their leaves
in alternating directions. You know, left-right-left-right. When I look
down into that callosum and it appears that it is going to grow 2
consecutive leaves in the same direction, that's a flower bud every time.
I have other Paphs that I have bloomed once or twice so far. Some of
those are harder to tell. Sometimes the bud is symmetrical so that it
doesn't seem to curve either left or right.
I don't yet have a malipoense so I can't say how it behaves. Look at
that spike/new leaf. If If it has a curve that looks like it would go
the same direction as the last leaf, then I would bet it isn't just a
leaf. If the shape looks like a leaf that will go off in the opposite
direction, then it probably IS a leaf. If you can't tell, hope for the
best and, (dare I say it?) be patient. :-)

Steve

Steve 17-09-2004 04:53 AM



J Fortuna wrote:
How can one tell whether a Paph is starting a new spike or growing a new
leaf?........................................


Joanna, I have a suggestion that may or may not help. I have a Paph
callosum that I have bloomed a dozen times at least. I can always tell
when that one is getting ready to bloom. Paphs always grow their leaves
in alternating directions. You know, left-right-left-right. When I look
down into that callosum and it appears that it is going to grow 2
consecutive leaves in the same direction, that's a flower bud every time.
I have other Paphs that I have bloomed once or twice so far. Some of
those are harder to tell. Sometimes the bud is symmetrical so that it
doesn't seem to curve either left or right.
I don't yet have a malipoense so I can't say how it behaves. Look at
that spike/new leaf. If If it has a curve that looks like it would go
the same direction as the last leaf, then I would bet it isn't just a
leaf. If the shape looks like a leaf that will go off in the opposite
direction, then it probably IS a leaf. If you can't tell, hope for the
best and, (dare I say it?) be patient. :-)

Steve

J Fortuna 19-09-2004 01:45 PM

It's a spike!
Today when I held it up to look at it in the light I noticed that if one
looks into that leaf under a certain angle in the right light, one can see
there is a bud in there. :-)

By the way, in response to Steve's suggestion: the leaf looked to me as
though it would go in the alternate direction not the same direction as the
previous one. But I can definitely see a bud in there.

Thank you all.
Joanna

"TQPL" wrote in message
...
Hi Joanna,

If you give it time all will be revealed.
However if you are impatient the following might
help.

Flower buds are generally fatter so they should
feel 'thicker' in the growth.

You might be able to shine a torch behind the
growth and look through the leaves to see the
outline of the flower bud. The pigmentation on
P.malipoense might prove a bit of a problem as
this works better for the strap leafed plants.

Hope this helps.
Hope it is a flower.

Flower bud formation is not simply a factor of the
number of leaves.
With regards
Alan








"J Fortuna" wrote
in message news:ky32d.6786$lX.202@trnddc04...
How can one tell whether a Paph is starting a

new spike or growing a new
leaf?

The reason why I am asking is: I mail ordered a

Paph malipoense in-spike. It
got delivered today, with a note stating that it

is just starting a new
spike in the new growth. It looks like a new

leaf to me. But then I
remembered that my very first Paph also looked

like it was going to have a
new leaf before I left for vacation, and when I

came back it had a new
spike. So I am willing to accept that this _may_

be a new spike even though
it looks like a leaf ... But I would like to

know whether there is a way to
know for sure whether this is a spike or just

another leaf. Is there
something that I can look for to tell? Is this

something that people who
have been around Paphs long enough just know? Or

is it an educated guess,
based on the number of leaves for example?

What I would like to know in part is, whether or

not I may have been ripped
off, since the plant was sold to me as

"in-spike", and I may not have bought
it if it had been listed as "blooming size" but

not in spike. I am willing
to give it the benefit of a doubt that it may be

in spike, but it really
looks to me like it is just "in-leaf".

Joanna (who can already tell a Phal spike from

an aerial root very early on,
but alas still has much more to learn about

Paphs)







J Fortuna 19-09-2004 01:45 PM

It's a spike!
Today when I held it up to look at it in the light I noticed that if one
looks into that leaf under a certain angle in the right light, one can see
there is a bud in there. :-)

By the way, in response to Steve's suggestion: the leaf looked to me as
though it would go in the alternate direction not the same direction as the
previous one. But I can definitely see a bud in there.

Thank you all.
Joanna

"TQPL" wrote in message
...
Hi Joanna,

If you give it time all will be revealed.
However if you are impatient the following might
help.

Flower buds are generally fatter so they should
feel 'thicker' in the growth.

You might be able to shine a torch behind the
growth and look through the leaves to see the
outline of the flower bud. The pigmentation on
P.malipoense might prove a bit of a problem as
this works better for the strap leafed plants.

Hope this helps.
Hope it is a flower.

Flower bud formation is not simply a factor of the
number of leaves.
With regards
Alan








"J Fortuna" wrote
in message news:ky32d.6786$lX.202@trnddc04...
How can one tell whether a Paph is starting a

new spike or growing a new
leaf?

The reason why I am asking is: I mail ordered a

Paph malipoense in-spike. It
got delivered today, with a note stating that it

is just starting a new
spike in the new growth. It looks like a new

leaf to me. But then I
remembered that my very first Paph also looked

like it was going to have a
new leaf before I left for vacation, and when I

came back it had a new
spike. So I am willing to accept that this _may_

be a new spike even though
it looks like a leaf ... But I would like to

know whether there is a way to
know for sure whether this is a spike or just

another leaf. Is there
something that I can look for to tell? Is this

something that people who
have been around Paphs long enough just know? Or

is it an educated guess,
based on the number of leaves for example?

What I would like to know in part is, whether or

not I may have been ripped
off, since the plant was sold to me as

"in-spike", and I may not have bought
it if it had been listed as "blooming size" but

not in spike. I am willing
to give it the benefit of a doubt that it may be

in spike, but it really
looks to me like it is just "in-leaf".

Joanna (who can already tell a Phal spike from

an aerial root very early on,
but alas still has much more to learn about

Paphs)







Steve 19-09-2004 04:29 PM



J Fortuna wrote:
It's a spike!
Today when I held it up to look at it in the light I noticed that if one
looks into that leaf under a certain angle in the right light, one can see
there is a bud in there. :-)

By the way, in response to Steve's suggestion: the leaf looked to me as
though it would go in the alternate direction not the same direction as the
previous one. But I can definitely see a bud in there.

Thank you all.
Joanna


Very good and congratulations! Now I wonder how many months it will
torture you before it actually produces a flower?

Steve

Steve 19-09-2004 04:29 PM



J Fortuna wrote:
It's a spike!
Today when I held it up to look at it in the light I noticed that if one
looks into that leaf under a certain angle in the right light, one can see
there is a bud in there. :-)

By the way, in response to Steve's suggestion: the leaf looked to me as
though it would go in the alternate direction not the same direction as the
previous one. But I can definitely see a bud in there.

Thank you all.
Joanna


Very good and congratulations! Now I wonder how many months it will
torture you before it actually produces a flower?

Steve

TQPL 20-09-2004 10:17 PM

Woopeeeeeee,
Hope you take a pic for your records.
Alan

"J Fortuna" wrote
in message news:Dbf3d.348$C8.251@trnddc05...
It's a spike!
Today when I held it up to look at it in the

light I noticed that if one
looks into that leaf under a certain angle in

the right light, one can see
there is a bud in there. :-)




TQPL 20-09-2004 10:17 PM

Woopeeeeeee,
Hope you take a pic for your records.
Alan

"J Fortuna" wrote
in message news:Dbf3d.348$C8.251@trnddc05...
It's a spike!
Today when I held it up to look at it in the

light I noticed that if one
looks into that leaf under a certain angle in

the right light, one can see
there is a bud in there. :-)




Steve 10-12-2004 05:50 AM

OK Joanna, it's been nearly 3 months. What's the good word on the Paph.
malipoense bud? For some reason, I keep remembering you finding the
bud and I wonder how things are going. I had to go to the google
archives to find this post and I joined so I could reply to this old
thread.

Steve


J Fortuna 10-12-2004 01:13 PM

Steve,
It's doing very well. Thank you for asking. The spike is now 16 inches long,
and almost entirely straight upright with no staking needed so far. I love
the feel of the spike, it's hairy and the hairs are very soft -- very
petable. This is in stark contrast to the leaves which are very coarse
(almost sandpaper like), providing for interesting contrasts in texture.
It's bud until now consisted of two sepals (?) facing each other and bent
into canoe like shapes, but now the pouch is starting to form inside and it
is starting to pull the two other existing parts apart. I have been struck
by how pretty the bud looks even in it's earlier stages, one could almost
say that it's already in flower, and the flower will just keep changing with
time. Overall I enjoy the paph malipoense immensely, and would greatly
recommend this species to anyone interested. The advice given on this group,
that it's spiking period is so long, at first scared me, since I am
definitely not a patient person, but the thing is that it's not like it goes
a long time without progressing further, and so the activity of the spike
and bud keeps me entertained, and I don't mind one bit.
Joanna

"Steve" wrote in message
oups.com...
OK Joanna, it's been nearly 3 months. What's the good word on the Paph.
malipoense bud? For some reason, I keep remembering you finding the
bud and I wonder how things are going. I had to go to the google
archives to find this post and I joined so I could reply to this old
thread.

Steve




Steve 10-12-2004 02:44 PM

Great news. I'm glad you have been enjoying it and it sounds as if it is
getting pretty close to really opening.

I guess I have been reminded of your plant because I am watching buds
develop on two of my Paphs. My two are hybrids ands I'm sure they will
not make me wait so long to bloom. The buds look pretty big compared to
other Paphs I have flowered, even though they are only about an inch
above the leaves at the moment.

Steve


J Fortuna wrote:
Steve,
It's doing very well. Thank you for asking. The spike is now 16 inches long,
and almost entirely straight upright with no staking needed so far. I love
the feel of the spike, it's hairy and the hairs are very soft -- very
petable. This is in stark contrast to the leaves which are very coarse
(almost sandpaper like), providing for interesting contrasts in texture.
It's bud until now consisted of two sepals (?) facing each other and bent
into canoe like shapes, but now the pouch is starting to form inside and it
is starting to pull the two other existing parts apart. I have been struck
by how pretty the bud looks even in it's earlier stages, one could almost
say that it's already in flower, and the flower will just keep changing with
time. Overall I enjoy the paph malipoense immensely, and would greatly
recommend this species to anyone interested. The advice given on this group,
that it's spiking period is so long, at first scared me, since I am
definitely not a patient person, but the thing is that it's not like it goes
a long time without progressing further, and so the activity of the spike
and bud keeps me entertained, and I don't mind one bit.
Joanna

"Steve" wrote in message
oups.com...

OK Joanna, it's been nearly 3 months. What's the good word on the Paph.
malipoense bud? For some reason, I keep remembering you finding the
bud and I wonder how things are going. I had to go to the google
archives to find this post and I joined so I could reply to this old
thread.

Steve





Susan Erickson 10-12-2004 04:36 PM

On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 09:44:55 -0500, Steve
wrote:

Great news. I'm glad you have been enjoying it and it sounds as if it is
getting pretty close to really opening.

I guess I have been reminded of your plant because I am watching buds
develop on two of my Paphs. My two are hybrids ands I'm sure they will
not make me wait so long to bloom. The buds look pretty big compared to
other Paphs I have flowered, even though they are only about an inch
above the leaves at the moment.

Steve


I find paph malipoense fascinating but frustrating because we
grew so many hybrids first and I was used to their growth time.
Steve you are being as frustrating as mali by tantalizing us with
"hybrids" and not naming what is in spike. G GIVE.
SuE
http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php

Steve 10-12-2004 05:03 PM



Susan Erickson wrote:


........................................
...Steve you are being as frustrating as mali by tantalizing us with
"hybrids" and not naming what is in spike. G GIVE.
SuE
http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php


Ha! I would have to go look. ... Actually, I remember one: Paph.
Personality 'Courage' . The other one I have no idea at the moment.
Both are complex hybrids. These 2 are from a group of 12 plants that I
picked up cheap about a year ago from Baker and Chantry as they were
selling off their plants.
Rest assured that when they finally bloom, I will post the pictures on
ABPO complete with names.

Steve

Steve 30-12-2004 01:40 AM


Susan Erickson wrote:


........................................
...Steve you are being as frustrating as mali by tantalizing us with
"hybrids" and not naming what is in spike. G GIVE.
SuE
http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php



Ha! I would have to go look. ... Actually, I remember one: Paph.
Personality 'Courage' . The other one I have no idea at the moment.
Both are complex hybrids. These 2 are from a group of 12 plants that I
picked up cheap about a year ago from Baker and Chantry as they were
selling off their plants.
Rest assured that when they finally bloom, I will post the pictures on
ABPO complete with names.

Steve


It's a few weeks later now and the time is getting close. :-)
The buds are opening slowwwwwwwly. I keep going down to the basement to
look and there is barely any difference from the day before. I'm sure
the low temperatures down there make it happen even slower. Barely up to
70 when the lights are on.
'Courage' has taken the lead with the bud about half open but the other
one is starting to open too.

Steve

J Fortuna 31-12-2004 06:49 PM

Steve,
Glad to hear that your buds are opening as well (albeit slowly), my paph
malipoense has opened its bud noticeably more in the week that we were gone,
though it's still quite a while to flowering I think. It looks right now a
bit like it would really like to take a bite out of something. :-)
Happy New Year, and may buds continue to open merrily in the new year as
well.
Joanna

"Steve" wrote in message
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Susan Erickson wrote:


........................................
...Steve you are being as frustrating as mali by tantalizing us with
"hybrids" and not naming what is in spike. G GIVE.
SuE
http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php



Ha! I would have to go look. ... Actually, I remember one: Paph.
Personality 'Courage' . The other one I have no idea at the moment.
Both are complex hybrids. These 2 are from a group of 12 plants that I
picked up cheap about a year ago from Baker and Chantry as they were
selling off their plants.
Rest assured that when they finally bloom, I will post the pictures on
ABPO complete with names.

Steve


It's a few weeks later now and the time is getting close. :-)
The buds are opening slowwwwwwwly. I keep going down to the basement to
look and there is barely any difference from the day before. I'm sure
the low temperatures down there make it happen even slower. Barely up to
70 when the lights are on.
'Courage' has taken the lead with the bud about half open but the other
one is starting to open too.

Steve




salgud 17-01-2005 05:47 PM

I've been watching my paph spike for over 2 weeks now. The flower is
just starting to unfold (bear with me, I don't know all the correct
terms for the parts and the processes yet). I mentioned it in the
thread "first spike of first orchid". But I'm not finding the wait
uncomfortably agonizing. I'm loving the process. It's so exciting,
amazing, beautiful, etc. It's gotten to where if I even think about it,
I have to go look at it yet again, see in detail how it's progressed
since the last time I looked at it closely, or just look at it to
marvel in the beauty of it all. It probably helps that I'm 57, and a
lot mellower than I was even a few years ago. (Raising orchids is a far
cry from racing dirtbikes!) I'm probably also lucky that I didn't
notice it was spiking for a few weeks, so wasn't wondering what exactly
was going on. By the time I noticed it, the spike was a few inches long
(ok, so I'm not the most observant guy around). But now I'm just
enjoying it day by day!


salgud 17-01-2005 05:47 PM

I've been watching my paph spike for over 2 weeks now. The flower is
just starting to unfold (bear with me, I don't know all the correct
terms for the parts and the processes yet). I mentioned it in the
thread "first spike of first orchid". But I'm not finding the wait
uncomfortably agonizing. I'm loving the process. It's so exciting,
amazing, beautiful, etc. It's gotten to where if I even think about it,
I have to go look at it yet again, see in detail how it's progressed
since the last time I looked at it closely, or just look at it to
marvel in the beauty of it all. It probably helps that I'm 57, and a
lot mellower than I was even a few years ago. (Raising orchids is a far
cry from racing dirtbikes!) I'm probably also lucky that I didn't
notice it was spiking for a few weeks, so wasn't wondering what exactly
was going on. By the time I noticed it, the spike was a few inches long
(ok, so I'm not the most observant guy around). But now I'm just
enjoying it day by day!


john beasley 18-01-2005 07:05 PM

I hear you. I've been waiting for a Paph. venustum bud to develop for a
couple of months now. It is s-l-o-w-w-w going. But finally it is beginning
to get fatter and I hope I'll see a blossom in...well... I don't really
know. Luckily I have lots of other orchids to distract me.

What paph are you waiting for?

John :)

"salgud" wrote in message
ups.com...
I've been watching my paph spike for over 2 weeks now. The flower is
just starting to unfold (bear with me, I don't know all the correct
terms for the parts and the processes yet). I mentioned it in the
thread "first spike of first orchid". But I'm not finding the wait
uncomfortably agonizing. I'm loving the process. It's so exciting,
amazing, beautiful, etc. It's gotten to where if I even think about it,
I have to go look at it yet again, see in detail how it's progressed
since the last time I looked at it closely, or just look at it to
marvel in the beauty of it all. It probably helps that I'm 57, and a
lot mellower than I was even a few years ago. (Raising orchids is a far
cry from racing dirtbikes!) I'm probably also lucky that I didn't
notice it was spiking for a few weeks, so wasn't wondering what exactly
was going on. By the time I noticed it, the spike was a few inches long
(ok, so I'm not the most observant guy around). But now I'm just
enjoying it day by day!




salgud 22-01-2005 11:57 PM

Not sure, I think it's Suellen!
Seriously, I don't know that this means, but the label in the pot says,
"MTDM. bartley schwarz 'highland' am/aos". If that means anything to
you, I'd love to know. It also says "lots of red and white flowers"
Dave


wendy7 23-01-2005 02:04 AM

Hi Dave, I have not read all the threads or your original question but
for the record, Mtdm. is the abbreviation for Miltonidium which is
a cross of Miltonia & Oncidium I believe.
So this tag should read:-
Miltonidium Bartley Schwarz 'Highland' AM/AOS
If this tag is in your Paph pot then it is the wrong tag.

--
Cheers Wendy

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salgud wrote:
Not sure, I think it's Suellen!
Seriously, I don't know that this means, but the label in the pot
says, "MTDM. bartley schwarz 'highland' am/aos". If that means
anything to you, I'd love to know. It also says "lots of red and
white flowers" Dave




salgud 23-01-2005 05:50 PM

LOL! I think I'll stick with Suellen!



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