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betsyb 19-09-2004 02:33 AM

Old Den Nobile problem
 
I have a Den and am a bit concerned about withholding water and
fertilizer come next month. At present it has 5 keikis on one stem, none of
which seem large enuf to separate. Should I begin the winter cool down and
hold back on the water or remove the keikis and hope for the best?



Gene Schurg 19-09-2004 04:18 PM

Betsy,

What does the rest of the plant look like? Did it bloom last winter/spring?

The keikis form for a couple of reasons. Maybe you over fertilized it?
Maybe you didn't let it rest last winter?

If you want it to bloom you have to give it a rest cycle. I usually start
the "dry" period for my plants around mid-november. By then the days are
consistently cool and getting short. That seems to work in the DC area.
Your climate may be different.

If the plant is large and healthy otherwise I would recommend that you give
it a rest.

Good Growing,
Gene




"betsyb" wrote in message
...
I have a Den and am a bit concerned about withholding water and
fertilizer come next month. At present it has 5 keikis on one stem, none

of
which seem large enuf to separate. Should I begin the winter cool down and
hold back on the water or remove the keikis and hope for the best?





betsyb 19-09-2004 05:00 PM

I am in NJ and it had the recommended rest and fertilizer last fall into
late January. Apparently it wasn't getting enuf light and I have since
remidied that. It had a few flowers in the early spring but nothing but
keikis since. 15 and everyone has some!! There are five left and I was
wondering if I should remove them before late October?



"Gene Schurg" wrote in message
ink.net...
Betsy,

What does the rest of the plant look like? Did it bloom last

winter/spring?

The keikis form for a couple of reasons. Maybe you over fertilized it?
Maybe you didn't let it rest last winter?

If you want it to bloom you have to give it a rest cycle. I usually start
the "dry" period for my plants around mid-november. By then the days are
consistently cool and getting short. That seems to work in the DC area.
Your climate may be different.

If the plant is large and healthy otherwise I would recommend that you

give
it a rest.

Good Growing,
Gene




"betsyb" wrote in message
...
I have a Den and am a bit concerned about withholding water and
fertilizer come next month. At present it has 5 keikis on one stem, none

of
which seem large enuf to separate. Should I begin the winter cool down

and
hold back on the water or remove the keikis and hope for the best?







betsyb 19-09-2004 05:00 PM

I am in NJ and it had the recommended rest and fertilizer last fall into
late January. Apparently it wasn't getting enuf light and I have since
remidied that. It had a few flowers in the early spring but nothing but
keikis since. 15 and everyone has some!! There are five left and I was
wondering if I should remove them before late October?



"Gene Schurg" wrote in message
ink.net...
Betsy,

What does the rest of the plant look like? Did it bloom last

winter/spring?

The keikis form for a couple of reasons. Maybe you over fertilized it?
Maybe you didn't let it rest last winter?

If you want it to bloom you have to give it a rest cycle. I usually start
the "dry" period for my plants around mid-november. By then the days are
consistently cool and getting short. That seems to work in the DC area.
Your climate may be different.

If the plant is large and healthy otherwise I would recommend that you

give
it a rest.

Good Growing,
Gene




"betsyb" wrote in message
...
I have a Den and am a bit concerned about withholding water and
fertilizer come next month. At present it has 5 keikis on one stem, none

of
which seem large enuf to separate. Should I begin the winter cool down

and
hold back on the water or remove the keikis and hope for the best?







betsyb 19-09-2004 05:02 PM

Gene, look for your name in the Subject line on the binaries group?
"betsyb" wrote in message
...
I have a Den and am a bit concerned about withholding water and
fertilizer come next month. At present it has 5 keikis on one stem, none

of
which seem large enuf to separate. Should I begin the winter cool down and
hold back on the water or remove the keikis and hope for the best?





betsyb 19-09-2004 05:02 PM

Gene, look for your name in the Subject line on the binaries group?
"betsyb" wrote in message
...
I have a Den and am a bit concerned about withholding water and
fertilizer come next month. At present it has 5 keikis on one stem, none

of
which seem large enuf to separate. Should I begin the winter cool down and
hold back on the water or remove the keikis and hope for the best?





betsyb 19-09-2004 05:02 PM

Gene, look for your name in the Subject line on the binaries group?
"betsyb" wrote in message
...
I have a Den and am a bit concerned about withholding water and
fertilizer come next month. At present it has 5 keikis on one stem, none

of
which seem large enuf to separate. Should I begin the winter cool down and
hold back on the water or remove the keikis and hope for the best?





Gene Schurg 20-09-2004 12:05 AM

Betsy,

Well, more light would help with more flowers.

I'd leave the remaining keikies that are small on the plant and put it
through a rest period.

Did you get a lot of new canes this season? That is where the best blooms
will come from.

Good growing,
Gene




"betsyb" wrote in message
...
I have a Den and am a bit concerned about withholding water and
fertilizer come next month. At present it has 5 keikis on one stem, none

of
which seem large enuf to separate. Should I begin the winter cool down and
hold back on the water or remove the keikis and hope for the best?





Gene Schurg 20-09-2004 12:05 AM

Betsy,

Well, more light would help with more flowers.

I'd leave the remaining keikies that are small on the plant and put it
through a rest period.

Did you get a lot of new canes this season? That is where the best blooms
will come from.

Good growing,
Gene




"betsyb" wrote in message
...
I have a Den and am a bit concerned about withholding water and
fertilizer come next month. At present it has 5 keikis on one stem, none

of
which seem large enuf to separate. Should I begin the winter cool down and
hold back on the water or remove the keikis and hope for the best?





Gene Schurg 20-09-2004 12:05 AM

Betsy,

Well, more light would help with more flowers.

I'd leave the remaining keikies that are small on the plant and put it
through a rest period.

Did you get a lot of new canes this season? That is where the best blooms
will come from.

Good growing,
Gene




"betsyb" wrote in message
...
I have a Den and am a bit concerned about withholding water and
fertilizer come next month. At present it has 5 keikis on one stem, none

of
which seem large enuf to separate. Should I begin the winter cool down and
hold back on the water or remove the keikis and hope for the best?





wendy7 20-09-2004 01:34 AM

Good advice Gene but also doesn't a dying plant give off
keiki's as well? So I think Betsy should check out the mother plant's
root system.
--
Cheers Wendy

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Gene Schurg wrote:
Betsy,

Well, more light would help with more flowers.

I'd leave the remaining keikies that are small on the plant and put it
through a rest period.

Did you get a lot of new canes this season? That is where the best
blooms will come from.

Good growing,
Gene




"betsyb" wrote in message
...
I have a Den and am a bit concerned about withholding water and
fertilizer come next month. At present it has 5 keikis on one stem,
none of which seem large enuf to separate. Should I begin the winter
cool down and hold back on the water or remove the keikis and hope
for the best?




wendy7 20-09-2004 01:34 AM

Good advice Gene but also doesn't a dying plant give off
keiki's as well? So I think Betsy should check out the mother plant's
root system.
--
Cheers Wendy

Remove PETERPAN for email reply

Gene Schurg wrote:
Betsy,

Well, more light would help with more flowers.

I'd leave the remaining keikies that are small on the plant and put it
through a rest period.

Did you get a lot of new canes this season? That is where the best
blooms will come from.

Good growing,
Gene




"betsyb" wrote in message
...
I have a Den and am a bit concerned about withholding water and
fertilizer come next month. At present it has 5 keikis on one stem,
none of which seem large enuf to separate. Should I begin the winter
cool down and hold back on the water or remove the keikis and hope
for the best?




betsyb 20-09-2004 01:58 AM


"betsyb" wrote in message
...
I have a Den and am a bit concerned about withholding water and
fertilizer come next month. At present it has 5 keikis on one stem, none

of
which seem large enuf to separate. Should I begin the winter cool down and
hold back on the water or remove the keikis and hope for the best?

Tomorrow I will check her root system for any possible problems. Hope she is
alright. There are also about three new shoots coming from the base of the
plant.
Thanks to you both for the advice.



betsyb 20-09-2004 01:58 AM


"betsyb" wrote in message
...
I have a Den and am a bit concerned about withholding water and
fertilizer come next month. At present it has 5 keikis on one stem, none

of
which seem large enuf to separate. Should I begin the winter cool down and
hold back on the water or remove the keikis and hope for the best?

Tomorrow I will check her root system for any possible problems. Hope she is
alright. There are also about three new shoots coming from the base of the
plant.
Thanks to you both for the advice.




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