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GrlIntrpted 27-09-2004 12:04 AM

Phal. violacea 'Malaysia' major problem
 
As you can see this seedling is on it's last legs (photo under the same
subject in abpo. It had another leaf that yellowed and fell off. All this
yellowing occured in about one week's time. It was planted in regular
orchid mix (which is what I use on all my phals), and it was in the tree
fern fiber pot. It is kept a bit shadier than the belina but is subject to
the same temperatures. All the other Phals (species) are doing fantastic
this one is dying. But is it really dying? the roots look healthy to me,
and no sign of rot, any idea? is it salvagable? is that a word?....

Help is greatly appreciated,
Mariana




Burr Nelson 30-09-2004 05:07 AM

Mariana, I visited a greenhouse yesterday and told the lady how nice the
place was but that I saw a couple of orchids that looked a little rough,
she said, I know, they die down then come back next year or whatever.
So hey, it might be a hybrid or something, don't throw it out til you
find out for sure. Good luck


Burr Nelson 30-09-2004 05:07 AM

Mariana, I visited a greenhouse yesterday and told the lady how nice the
place was but that I saw a couple of orchids that looked a little rough,
she said, I know, they die down then come back next year or whatever.
So hey, it might be a hybrid or something, don't throw it out til you
find out for sure. Good luck


J Fortuna 30-09-2004 12:58 PM

Burr,
I have never heard of any Phal loosing it's leaves in the winter and then
coming back in the spring. Is there such a Phal?
I know of Dendrobiums that do that sort of thing, but not of any Phals,
Which does not mean that there isn't such a thing -- I just have not heard
about it yet, have you?
Joanna

"Burr Nelson" wrote in message
...
Mariana, I visited a greenhouse yesterday and told the lady how nice the
place was but that I saw a couple of orchids that looked a little rough,
she said, I know, they die down then come back next year or whatever.
So hey, it might be a hybrid or something, don't throw it out til you
find out for sure. Good luck




Rob Halgren 30-09-2004 02:11 PM

J Fortuna wrote:

Burr,
I have never heard of any Phal loosing it's leaves in the winter and then
coming back in the spring. Is there such a Phal?
I know of Dendrobiums that do that sort of thing, but not of any Phals,
Which does not mean that there isn't such a thing -- I just have not heard
about it yet, have you?



Violacea isn't deciduous... Lowii, lobbii, parishii I think can be
deciduous (or not, if grown warn all the time).

Rob

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Rob Halgren 30-09-2004 02:11 PM

J Fortuna wrote:

Burr,
I have never heard of any Phal loosing it's leaves in the winter and then
coming back in the spring. Is there such a Phal?
I know of Dendrobiums that do that sort of thing, but not of any Phals,
Which does not mean that there isn't such a thing -- I just have not heard
about it yet, have you?



Violacea isn't deciduous... Lowii, lobbii, parishii I think can be
deciduous (or not, if grown warn all the time).

Rob

--
Rob's Rules: http://www.msu.edu/~halgren
1) There is always room for one more orchid
2) There is always room for two more orchids
2a. See rule 1
3) When one has insufficient credit to purchase
more orchids, obtain more credit
LittlefrogFarm is open - e-mail me for a list )

J. Del Col 30-09-2004 06:10 PM

(Burr Nelson) wrote in message ...
Mariana, I visited a greenhouse yesterday and told the lady how nice the
place was but that I saw a couple of orchids that looked a little rough,
she said, I know, they die down then come back next year or whatever....



Healthy Phals don't "die down." Some orchids are deciduous, but Phals aren't.


J. Del Col

Ray 30-09-2004 09:59 PM

Actually, some of the Chinese species are - or can be. P. honghensis, for
example.

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"J. Del Col" wrote in message
...
(Burr Nelson) wrote in message
...
Mariana, I visited a greenhouse yesterday and told the lady how nice the
place was but that I saw a couple of orchids that looked a little rough,
she said, I know, they die down then come back next year or whatever....



Healthy Phals don't "die down." Some orchids are deciduous, but Phals
aren't.


J. Del Col




GrlIntrpted 30-09-2004 10:18 PM


"J Fortuna" wrote in message
news:SxS6d.310$lf2.117@trnddc09...
Burr,
I have never heard of any Phal loosing it's leaves in the winter and then
coming back in the spring. Is there such a Phal?


Yes :)

I know of Dendrobiums that do that sort of thing, but not of any Phals,
Which does not mean that there isn't such a thing -- I just have not heard
about it yet, have you?


Phal wilsoni
Phal lowii
Phal lobbii
Phal parishii

And I'm certain a few more.

Mariana





Burr Nelson 01-10-2004 04:48 AM

Well now that you mentioned it, no. BUT! I also have a phal. that
is part something else, Doritaenopsis. It is very healthy now. I can't
see what's causing the problem with one phal. and not all of them. But
like you said phals. don't usually do this. Burr


J. Del Col 03-10-2004 04:32 PM

"Ray" wrote in message ...
Actually, some of the Chinese species are - or can be. P. honghensis, for
example.

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!
.
"J. Del Col" wrote in message
...
(Burr Nelson) wrote in message
...
Mariana, I visited a greenhouse yesterday and told the lady how nice the
place was but that I saw a couple of orchids that looked a little rough,
she said, I know, they die down then come back next year or whatever....



Healthy Phals don't "die down." Some orchids are deciduous, but Phals
aren't.



So -that's- what's going on with one of mine, and I thought it was scale.
(insert annoying emoticon here).

Interesting to know that some Phals shed leaves on purpose.
Another fact to be filed away.


J. Del Col


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