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Edmond Cormier 26-12-2004 11:24 PM

aeroponics
 
In gro-op[ supply store we see more and more aeroponic systems. Has anybody
experimented growing orchids aeroponically?
Ed Cormier



Ray 26-12-2004 11:56 PM

If you grow vandas, you already do - more-or-less!

Aeroponics is just no medium, mechanical support for the plant, and
watering feeding by misting - just the way I grow vandas. I'll post a
photo at abpo.

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"Edmond Cormier" wrote in message
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In gro-op[ supply store we see more and more aeroponic systems. Has
anybody experimented growing orchids aeroponically?
Ed Cormier




keith ;-\) 27-12-2004 09:00 AM

Ray ,do you water and feed them everyday.I have just yesterday took vanda
coerulea from its basket & hung it with wire.I have a 5 litre mister i use
to water/feed vandaeceous,i have been using water/feed then when empty just
rain water then back to the water / feed and so on.

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Thanks Keith,England,UK.
"Ray" wrote in message
...
If you grow vandas, you already do - more-or-less!

Aeroponics is just no medium, mechanical support for the plant, and
watering feeding by misting - just the way I grow vandas. I'll post a
photo at abpo.

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!
.
"Edmond Cormier" wrote in message
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In gro-op[ supply store we see more and more aeroponic systems. Has
anybody experimented growing orchids aeroponically?
Ed Cormier






Ray 27-12-2004 10:10 AM

Not every day, especially in winter, but close to it.

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"keith ;-)" wrote in message
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Ray ,do you water and feed them everyday.I have just yesterday took
vanda
coerulea from its basket & hung it with wire.I have a 5 litre
mister i use
to water/feed vandaeceous,i have been using water/feed then when
empty just
rain water then back to the water / feed and so on.

--
Thanks Keith,England,UK.
"Ray" wrote in message
...
If you grow vandas, you already do - more-or-less!

Aeroponics is just no medium, mechanical support for the plant, and
watering feeding by misting - just the way I grow vandas. I'll
post a
photo at abpo.

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!
.
"Edmond Cormier" wrote in message
news:kKHzd.596100$%k.225865@pd7tw2no...
In gro-op[ supply store we see more and more aeroponic systems.
Has
anybody experimented growing orchids aeroponically?
Ed Cormier








wendy7 27-12-2004 02:46 PM

I found this url which explains but it looks much like hydorponics to me?
http://www.biocontrols.com/aero6.html

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Cheers Wendy

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Edmond Cormier wrote:
In gro-op[ supply store we see more and more aeroponic systems. Has
anybody experimented growing orchids aeroponically?
Ed Cormier




Ray 27-12-2004 03:09 PM

There are lots of ways to "do" hydroponics, with- and without inert
media.

Aeroponics is simply a term that indicates that the plant is suspended
in mid-air and its roots are misted with nutrients. Another, similar
methodology is the nutrient film technique (NFT) in which the plants
are suspended in mid-air, but there is a constant supply of nutrient
solution fed by a pump onto the suspension tray, and when it "leaks"
down, it forms a very thin film of solution on the roots. A further
variant is the "ebb and flow" method in which the nutrient solution is
pumped into the tray surrounding the root system on a periodic basis,
and then drains away.

If one adds an inert medium to provide the plant with mechanical
support, the three most common "mass planting" techniques involve
supplying the nutrient solution via either the "ebb and flow"
methodology or by periodic overhead sprays, or that in which a
constant, shallow depth of solution is recirculated through the
medium-holding tray and the capillary action of the medium does the
rest.

That last example is the closest thing to the technique I dubbed
"semi-hydroponics" - the single pot of inert medium with independent
reservoir that is manually watered - with the "semi-" added to
differentiate it from pumps, large trays or benches and a common
reservoir.
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Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!
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"wendy7" wrote in message
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I found this url which explains but it looks much like hydorponics to
me?
http://www.biocontrols.com/aero6.html

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Cheers Wendy

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Edmond Cormier wrote:
In gro-op[ supply store we see more and more aeroponic systems.
Has
anybody experimented growing orchids aeroponically?
Ed Cormier






Drbob92031 29-12-2004 01:46 PM

I found this url which explains but it looks much like hydorponics to me?

.HI Wendy;

I visited the URL and yes, it is very similar to hydroponics except that there
appears to be more exacting control of the density (misting) and duration of
the water and fertilization cycle.
drbob...Delray Beach, FL.

wendy7 29-12-2004 04:05 PM

Yes Bob and very, very expensive too!!

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Cheers Wendy

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Drbob92031 wrote:
I found this url which explains but it looks much like hydorponics
to me?


.HI Wendy;

I visited the URL and yes, it is very similar to hydroponics except
that there appears to be more exacting control of the density
(misting) and duration of the water and fertilization cycle.
drbob...Delray Beach, FL.




NOOK 31-12-2004 02:57 AM

When I was a wild and crazy youngster going to Devry we used to grow
(tomatoes, yeh that's the ticket) in a closet with what you can now
find called a bubbler. Very simple to setup and maintain. Have never
tried it with orchids but have used it for vegatables on the deck a
few years ago.
Basic 5 gall bucket nutr. mix in bottom, airstone or good air pump in
mix to splash it up. Plant root ball without soil or mix in mesh pot
stuck in lid hanging above liquid. bubbles pop up and fert. roots,
plant growes like a beast. Just add liquid once a week and Change
nutr. mix every couple of weeks.

dude
There are lots of ways to "do" hydroponics, with- and without inert
media.

Aeroponics is simply a term that indicates that the plant is suspended
in mid-air and its roots are misted with nutrients. Another, similar
methodology is the nutrient film technique (NFT) in which the plants
are suspended in mid-air, but there is a constant supply of nutrient
solution fed by a pump onto the suspension tray, and when it "leaks"
down, it forms a very thin film of solution on the roots. A further
variant is the "ebb and flow" method in which the nutrient solution is
pumped into the tray surrounding the root system on a periodic basis,
and then drains away.

If one adds an inert medium to provide the plant with mechanical
support, the three most common "mass planting" techniques involve
supplying the nutrient solution via either the "ebb and flow"
methodology or by periodic overhead sprays, or that in which a
constant, shallow depth of solution is recirculated through the
medium-holding tray and the capillary action of the medium does the
rest.

That last example is the closest thing to the technique I dubbed
"semi-hydroponics" - the single pot of inert medium with independent
reservoir that is manually watered - with the "semi-" added to
differentiate it from pumps, large trays or benches and a common
reservoir.



Drbob92031 05-01-2005 01:29 PM

Sounds like I am reinventing the wheel.
Bob

Ray 05-01-2005 02:05 PM

Naaahhh. Just "discovering" stuff for the first time for you!

I've been growing orchids for over 30 years, and I still "discover"
stuff all the time, especially when discussing stuff with others
online.

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Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!
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"Drbob92031" wrote in message
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Sounds like I am reinventing the wheel.
Bob




QuickGrow South 18-01-2005 10:40 PM


"Edmond Cormier" wrote in message
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In gro-op[ supply store we see more and more aeroponic systems. Has
anybody experimented growing orchids aeroponically?
Ed Cormier


I have grown many orchid aeroponiclly with outstanding sucess. I have had
Zygo's bloom 4 times in one year! The root growth is explosive and with
such a large and healthy root system the top growth is also unbelivable. I
have mostly use the "Pipe Dreams" system. Onc. integenerics will explode a 3
1/2" basket in about 6
Mo. my last Onc. integeneric to bloom had 250+ flowers at the same time( 2
bulbs 2 spikes /bulb). Of course that plant has no label! same plant had 98
flowers on its single spike on previous bloom. I grew a Neo. falcata from 1
large fan with 2 offsets into 8 fans with about 15 offsets in 18 Mo. The
biggest secret is to keep the water cool 65F.



Ray 19-01-2005 01:30 AM

I never would have guessed that "Quick Grow would be a "distributor of
indoor gardening products."

Unless you want to actually contribute, keep such thoughts to
yourself.

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Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!
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"Edmond Cormier" wrote in message
news:kKHzd.596100$%k.225865@pd7tw2no...
In gro-op[ supply store we see more and more aeroponic systems.
Has anybody experimented growing orchids aeroponically?
Ed Cormier


I have grown many orchid aeroponiclly with outstanding sucess. I
have had Zygo's bloom 4 times in one year! The root growth is
explosive and with such a large and healthy root system the top
growth is also unbelivable. I have mostly use the "Pipe Dreams"
system. Onc. integenerics will explode a 3 1/2" basket in about 6
Mo. my last Onc. integeneric to bloom had 250+ flowers at the same
time( 2 bulbs 2 spikes /bulb). Of course that plant has no label!
same plant had 98 flowers on its single spike on previous bloom. I
grew a Neo. falcata from 1 large fan with 2 offsets into 8 fans with
about 15 offsets in 18 Mo. The biggest secret is to keep the water
cool 65F.





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