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potato & tomato soup
Timothy Horrigan schreef
Potato plants only rarely produce fruit but it does happen on occasion (e.g., in NH this summer, which had exceptionally low rainfall.) The fruits look like tomato fruits. They are (probably) not edible. + + + For the record (repeat): potato fruits are not edible, nor are those of most wild tomatos + + + (The leaves and stems of the potato are not edible, hence the fruit is unlikely to be edible either.) + + + This is invalid reasoning. If a plant has a choice, stem and leafs are as inedible as possible, since a plant likes to keep as much of its green parts intact as it can. When plants have noticeable fruits these are usually edible and are almost certainly so when they are red. Otherwise dispersal by animals would not work. Curiously it happens that Atropa bella-donna (same family) has black fruits, edible to birds and some mammals put poisonous to humans, children being especially at risk, the more so since the fruit somewhat resembles a cherry. PvR |
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potato & tomato soup
Timothy Horrigan schreef
Potato plants only rarely produce fruit but it does happen on occasion (e.g., in NH this summer, which had exceptionally low rainfall.) The fruits look like tomato fruits. They are (probably) not edible. + + + P van Rijckevorsel wrote: For the record (repeat): potato fruits are not edible, nor are those of most wild tomatos =============== Beverly Erlebacher schreef They are apparently quite toxic. Kay Lancaster, who used to post here a lot more when she was Kay Klier and lived in the midwest, used to do forensic botany -- hospitals called her in to examine the vomitus of people poisoned by eating plant materials in hopes of identifying them in order to determine effective treatment. I remember one case she reported of a very ill patient who had had the brilliant idea of eating potato fruits because they resembled little tomatoes. I assume they are especially dangerous in that they are not too bitter to eat. + + + (The leaves and stems of the potato are not edible, hence the fruit is unlikely to be edible either.) + + + This is invalid reasoning. If a plant has a choice, stem and leafs are as inedible as possible, since a plant likes to keep as much of its green parts intact as it can. ================== Plants are not out there for your benefit. While the nightshade family is well known for the toxicity of many of its members, there are a few species in Africa and India whose leaves are eaten as potherbs. And a family as apparently innocuous as the Umbelliferae (or whatever it is these days) + + + Still Umbelliferae, although the "allowed alternative" of Apiaceae is gaining hand over hand in botany texts + + + full of tasty veggies and herbs like celery, dill, parsley, carrots, fennel, etc, includes poison hemlock of which a really small amount can kill an adult. And while many seeds of this family are used as flavourings (dill, caraway, anise, cumin, cariander and many more), carrot seeds can cause miscarriage. So while assuming something is dangerous to eat is a safe strategy, reasoning about what is safe to eat can be a dangerous one. + + + Quite, there is a lot of trial and error involved. Both the existing food crops and the knowledge of what is safe and useful to gather from the wild represent quite an investment of human effort. + + + When plants have noticeable fruits these are usually edible and are almost certainly so when they are red. Otherwise dispersal by animals would not work. Curiously it happens that Atropa bella-donna (same family) has black fruits, edible to birds and some mammals put poisonous to humans, children being especially at risk, the more so since the fruit somewhat resembles a cherry. + + + Lots of other nightshades have bright colored fruits to attract birds but toxins or feeding deterrents to repel mammals, hot peppers being a prime example. And a lot of feeding-deterrents that plants make to fend off insects and other herbivores please us enough that we've domesticated these plants to flavour our food as herbs and spices, or as vegetables. |
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potato & tomato soup
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Erlebacher writes And a family as apparently innocuous as the Umbelliferae (or whatever it is these days) full of tasty veggies and herbs like celery, dill, parsley, carrots, fennel, etc, includes poison hemlock of which a really small amount can kill an adult. And while many seeds of this family are used as flavourings (dill, caraway, anise, cumin, cariander and many more), carrot seeds can cause miscarriage. I never thought of Umbelliferae as innocuous; at a guess it contains 2 of the 3 most toxic plants in the British flora (hemlock and water dropwort; the 3rd would be deadly nightshade). -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
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