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swim learning 26-04-2003 01:27 PM

Plant and one snake identification
 
Kindly help me identify the 14 plants and one snake from Singapore
whose photographs are at http://www.yahoo.com/shahswim.

Jie-san Laushi 26-04-2003 01:27 PM

Plant and one snake identification
 
whose photographs are at http://www.yahoo.com/shahswim.


Sorry, all I got was Yahoo saying the page was not found.

Jie-san Laushi

Huodau lau, xuedau lau, hai you sanfen xue bulai
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swim learning 26-04-2003 01:27 PM

Plant and one snake identification
 
I made a mistake. The photos are actually at:

http://photos.yahoo.com/shahswim

(swim learning) wrote in message . com...
Kindly help me identify the 14 plants and one snake from Singapore
whose photographs are at
http://www.yahoo.com/shahswim.

Beverly Erlebacher 26-04-2003 01:27 PM

Plant and one snake identification
 
In article ,
swim learning wrote:
I made a mistake. The photos are actually at:

http://photos.yahoo.com/shahswim

(swim learning) wrote in message . com...
Kindly help me identify the 14 plants and one snake from Singapore
whose photographs are at http://www.yahoo.com/shahswim.


Nice pictures. I'd guess that #5 is a Platycerium fern, but I'm no
expert.

As for that beautiful green snake, ask on sci.bio.herp.



mel turner 26-04-2003 01:27 PM

Plant and one snake identification
 
In article ,
wrote...

I made a mistake. The photos are actually at:

http://photos.yahoo.com/shahswim

#1 looks like Brassaia [Shefflera] actinophylla [Araliaceae],
which is Australian but has lots of relatives. Was it cultivated
or wild?

#2 may be Morinda
http://www.naturia.per.sg/buloh/plants/morinda.htm

#3 -- Don't know. A big sedge?

#4 -- don't know.

#5 Staghorn fern, Platycerium sp. [possibly the commonly cultivated P.
bifurcatum.]

#6 Looks like Allamanda cathartica
http://www.apsssnet.com/skl/project/flower/tropicf1.htm

#7 Erythrina sp.

#8 It's a large coarse species of maidenhair fern, genus Adiantum.
Adiantum trapeziforme rings a bell as being one such, but no doubt
there are others.

#9. Mussaenda? the white bracts look distinctive. Compa
http://www.desert-tropicals.com/Plan...hrophylla.html

#10. It's a palm, Johannesteijsmannia sp.

#11. Plumeria rubra [Frangipani]

#12 Myrtaceae of some sort?

#13 Mussaenda sp. [Rubiaceae]
http://www.biologie.uni-hamburg.de/b...2/musaenda.htm
[Similar to #9, but pink?]

#14 Bignoniaceae

#15 It's an Asian vine snake [genus Ahaetulla]. e.g., see
http://zoltantakacs.com/zt/pw/sn/s06.shtml
Rear-fanged, arboreal lizard eaters, [but harmless to people], very
similar in appearance and way of life to the tropical American vine
snakes of the genus Oxybelis [a neat case of convergent evolution in
distantly-related snakes]

Hope that helps.

cheers


P van Rijckevorsel 26-04-2003 01:27 PM

Plant and one snake identification
 
wrote...
I made a mistake. The photos are actually at:

http://photos.yahoo.com/shahswim

mel turner schreef
#4 -- don't know.

For all I can see here it might be coffee?

#7 Erythrina sp.

Don't think so, it looks like the other one, with a name like lobster's claw
or something like it

PvR




Jie-san Laushi 26-04-2003 01:27 PM

Plant and one snake identification
 
I'd guess that #5 is a Platycerium fern, but I'm no
expert.


#5 IS a Platycerium fern -- which species, I cannot say.

Jie-san Laushi

Huodau lau, xuedau lau, hai you sanfen xue bulai
_____________________________________________
to email: eliminate redundancy

swim learning 26-04-2003 01:27 PM

Plant and one snake identification
 
(mel turner) wrote in message ...
In article ,
wrote...

I made a mistake. The photos are actually at:

http://photos.yahoo.com/shahswim


#11. Plumeria rubra [Frangipani]


Thanks a lot for the valuable comments. I thought Frangipani had white
flowers. The plant in photo 11 has pink-ish flowers. Moreover, the
leaves are not as thick and leathery as the white Frangipani tree.

swim learning 26-04-2003 01:27 PM

Plant and one snake identification
 
(mel turner) wrote in message ...
In article ,
wrote...

I made a mistake. The photos are actually at:

http://photos.yahoo.com/shahswim

#1 looks like Brassaia [Shefflera] actinophylla [Araliaceae],
which is Australian but has lots of relatives. Was it cultivated
or wild?



I found the tree on the road side. My understanding is that a lot of
the trees in Singapore are deliberately cultivated to make a
"beautiful Singapore". Moreover, there are many imported species,
though, the overall effect is a visual feast.

P van Rijckevorsel 26-04-2003 01:27 PM

Plant and one snake identification
 
wrote...
I made a mistake. The photos are actually at:
http://photos.yahoo.com/shahswim

(mel turner) wrote

#11. Plumeria rubra [Frangipani]


swim learning
Thanks a lot for the valuable comments. I thought Frangipani had white

flowers. The plant in photo 11 has pink-ish flowers. Moreover, the leaves
are not as thick and leathery as the white Frangipani tree.

+ + +
Well it is not called Plumeria rubra for nothing!

http://www.dipbot.unict.it/orto/0970-1.html

PvR



mel turner 26-04-2003 01:27 PM

Plant and one snake identification
 
In article , wrote...

wrote...
I made a mistake. The photos are actually at:

http://photos.yahoo.com/shahswim

mel turner schreef
#4 -- don't know.


For all I can see here it might be coffee?


Okay, sure. That's as likely an ID as any, but few
details are visible in the photo.

#7 Erythrina sp.


Don't think so,


Well, you may be right, of course. Certainly _some_ common
Erythrina species do look quite different from this one,
but the photo reminded me especially of Erythrina crista-galli:

http://www.californiagardens.com/Pla...ista_galli.htm
http://www.plantsofperfection.com/Pl...sta-galli.html
http://botit.botany.wisc.edu:16080/c...eae/Erythrina/
http://www.csdl.tamu.edu/FLORA/imaxxfab.htm

it looks like the other one, with a name like lobster's claw
or something like it


Clianthus? I think those are shrubby climbers

http://www.oystercoveseeds.com/pages/clianth_puni.htm
http://botit.botany.wisc.edu:16080/i...eae/Clianthus/
http://www.botanyworld.com/clianthus.html
http://www.thompsonandmorgan.com/see...ct_4110_1.html

with very different foliage from that shown in the photo
[which instead strongly resembles Erythrina's]

regards


mel turner 26-04-2003 01:27 PM

Plant and one snake identification
 
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In article ,
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I made a mistake. The photos are actually at:

http://photos.yahoo.com/shahswim


#1 looks like Brassaia [Shefflera] actinophylla [Araliaceae],


This ID looks confirmed. Compa
http://mgonline.com/scheffleraf04.jpg

which is Australian but has lots of relatives. Was it cultivated
or wild?


I found the tree on the road side. My understanding is that a lot of
the trees in Singapore are deliberately cultivated to make a
"beautiful Singapore". Moreover, there are many imported species,
though, the overall effect is a visual feast.


Sure.
Anyway, Shefflera [or Brassaia] actinophylla is a very popular
houseplant that can become an invasive exotic tree in [sub]tropical
areas such as south Florida.

http://mgonline.com/schefflera.html

cheers




P van Rijckevorsel 26-04-2003 01:27 PM

Plant and one snake identification
 
wrote...
I made a mistake. The photos are actually at:
http://photos.yahoo.com/shahswim

mel turner schreef
#4 -- don't know.

===
For all I can see here it might be coffee?

===
Okay, sure. That's as likely an ID as any, but few

details are visible in the photo.
+ + +
Yes it is just an educated guess. Could be something else entirely. Still,
coffee is betting with the odds?
+ + +
===
#7 Erythrina sp.

===
Don't think so,

===
Well, you may be right, of course. Certainly _some_ common
Erythrina species do look quite different from this one,
but the photo reminded me especially of Erythrina crista-galli:

http://www.californiagardens.com/Pla...ista_galli.htm
http://www.plantsofperfection.com/Pl..._crista-galli.
html
http://botit.botany.wisc.edu:16080/c...ophyta/Magnoli
opsida/Rosidae/Fabaceae/Erythrina/
http://www.csdl.tamu.edu/FLORA/imaxxfab.htm

it looks like the other one, with a name like lobster's claw

or something like it

Clianthus? I think those are shrubby climbers


http://www.oystercoveseeds.com/pages/clianth_puni.htm
http://botit.botany.wisc.edu:16080/i...gnoliopsida/Ro
sidae/Fabaceae/Clianthus/
http://www.botanyworld.com/clianthus.html
http://www.thompsonandmorgan.com/see...ct_4110_1.html

with very different foliage from that shown in the photo

[which instead strongly resembles Erythrina's]

regards

+ + +
You build a pretty good case. Likely you are right. However the picture does
not really allow certainty if the leaf and the flowers belong together, and
could be clearer as to flower shape (or color).

Erythrina crista-galli is certainly the best know species.

On another note: this is an interesting species since most Erythrina species
in South America are bird pollinated (two groups of Erythrina; two groups of
birds). Erythrina crista-galli occurs so far south that tropical birds don't
follow, and is bee pollinated.
PvR



c.mcculloch 26-04-2003 01:27 PM

Plant and one snake identification
 
I suppose you have been to the Botanic Gardens? Even if you can't spot what
you are looking for, it is very likely that some of the staff could - and
would -help you if you take your original photographs.

Colin

"swim learning" wrote in message
om...
I made a mistake. The photos are actually at:

http://photos.yahoo.com/shahswim

(swim learning) wrote in message

. com...
Kindly help me identify the 14 plants and one snake from Singapore
whose photographs are at
http://www.yahoo.com/shahswim.



mel turner 26-04-2003 01:27 PM

Plant and one snake identification
 
In article ,
wrote...
[snip]

#15 It's an Asian vine snake [genus Ahaetulla]. e.g., see


http://zoltantakacs.com/zt/pw/sn/s06.shtml

Rear-fanged, arboreal lizard eaters, [but harmless to people], very
similar in appearance and way of life to the tropical American vine
snakes of the genus Oxybelis [a neat case of convergent evolution in
distantly-related snakes]


Illustrating this point further, compare your beastie:

http://www.ecologyasia.com/Vertebrat...whip-snake.htm
http://www.szgdocent.org/cc/c-whip.htm

vs.the superficially [and ecologically] similar American forms:

http://www.photovault.com/Link/Anima...VineSnake.html
[clearly it's the green O. fulgidus, not O. aeneus as labeled]
http://www.fathom.com/media/features...snake2_LG.html
http://www.reptile-gardens.com/repti...ry/photo8.html

http://www.arachnophiliac.com/burrow...vine_snake.jpg
http://www.pitt.edu/~mcs2/herp/snake.pics/O_aeneus.jpg [odd that these two
are poorly focussed]

http://www.fathom.com/feature/122594/1/969

cheers



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