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Mihai Cartoaje schreef
A possible explanation of the lower quality of most hybrids is if bad genes are recessive, so alleles (hope I'm using the word correctly) of hybrids would contain two recessive bad genes. Maybe the bad genes shall be weeded out by further selection. + + + The other way about. A gene is a particular area of DNA with a certain function. An allele is one of several possible variants of the gene, so selection (natural or artificial) eliminates 'bad' alleles, not 'bad' genes. You cannot select for genes, and if you manage to do so anyway there is a fair chance you get a new species (as this would mean altering the scope of the genome). BTW, it is very anthropocentric to speak of alleles being 'bad' or 'good'. Mostly alleles just are, and are advantageous or not depending on circumstance. Of course, colloquially genes are referred to in the reverse of the true situation. Hope this clarifies it, PvR If this is less than crystal clear, just use a book, any decent book! |
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Mihai Cartoaje schreef
A possible explanation of the lower quality of most hybrids is if bad genes are recessive, so alleles (hope I'm using the word correctly) of hybrids would contain two recessive bad genes. Maybe the bad genes shall be weeded out by further selection. + + + The other way about. A gene is a particular area of DNA with a certain function. An allele is one of several possible variants of the gene, so selection (natural or artificial) eliminates 'bad' alleles, not 'bad' genes. You cannot select for genes, and if you manage to do so anyway there is a fair chance you get a new species (as this would mean altering the scope of the genome). BTW, it is very anthropocentric to speak of alleles being 'bad' or 'good'. Mostly alleles just are, and are advantageous or not depending on circumstance. Of course, colloquially genes are referred to in the reverse of the true situation. Hope this clarifies it, PvR If this is less than crystal clear, just use a book, any decent book! |
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I was counting on the 10 to 20 Celsius degrees of extra cold resistance
seedlings have. BRBR Seedlings are not likely to have any more cold resistance than their parents. Actually, for harsh climates, the usual practice is to graft the desirable cultivar onto a very hardy rootstock. This is done with a wide variety of fruit trees and ornamental plants. Apple trees prefer sexual reproduction. Did they tell you this? I assure you the apple tree does not care whether it is a seedling, cutting, or graft, as long as it has enough water, sun, nutrients, & favorable temperatures. The only difference is that a seedling will take ten or 20 years to bear fruit, while a cutting or graft will start bearing very quickly. Iris, Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40 "If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming train." Robert Lowell (1917-1977) |
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"P van Rijckevorsel" wrote in message .. .
The other way about. A gene is a particular area of DNA with a certain function. An allele is one of several possible variants of the gene, so selection (natural or artificial) eliminates 'bad' alleles, not 'bad' genes. I have researched in a biology book. Two genes might be alleles, or they might not be alleles. |
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"P van Rijckevorsel" wrote in message .. .
The other way about. A gene is a particular area of DNA with a certain Those are loci. |
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Give this dude a cigar!!!
He actually read a book!!!! Believe it or not, there's a lot more where that one came from. The place is called a library. Check it out. "Mihai Cartoaje" wrote in message m... "P van Rijckevorsel" wrote in message .. . The other way about. A gene is a particular area of DNA with a certain function. An allele is one of several possible variants of the gene, so selection (natural or artificial) eliminates 'bad' alleles, not 'bad' genes. I have researched in a biology book. Two genes might be alleles, or they might not be alleles. |
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Give this dude a cigar!!!
He actually read a book!!!! Believe it or not, there's a lot more where that one came from. The place is called a library. Check it out. "Mihai Cartoaje" wrote in message m... "P van Rijckevorsel" wrote in message .. . The other way about. A gene is a particular area of DNA with a certain function. An allele is one of several possible variants of the gene, so selection (natural or artificial) eliminates 'bad' alleles, not 'bad' genes. I have researched in a biology book. Two genes might be alleles, or they might not be alleles. |
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"P van Rijckevorsel" wrote
The other way about. A gene is a particular area of DNA with a certain function. An allele is one of several possible variants of the gene, so selection (natural or artificial) eliminates 'bad' alleles, not 'bad' genes. Mihai Cartoaje schreef I have researched in a biology book. Two genes might be alleles, or they might not be alleles. + + + No. You either have a bad book (not sure if they exist) or you read wrong. Try a new book. PvR |
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"P van Rijckevorsel" wrote
The other way about. A gene is a particular area of DNA with a certain function Mihai Cartoaje schreef Those are loci. + + + No, a gene is a functional unit. A locus is (as the word says) the place (of the gene) on a chromosome. PvR |
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"P van Rijckevorsel" wrote
The other way about. A gene is a particular area of DNA with a certain function. An allele is one of several possible variants of the gene, so selection (natural or artificial) eliminates 'bad' alleles, not 'bad' genes. Mihai Cartoaje schreef I have researched in a biology book. Two genes might be alleles, or they might not be alleles. + + + No. You either have a bad book (not sure if they exist) or you read wrong. Try a new book. PvR |
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"P van Rijckevorsel" wrote
The other way about. A gene is a particular area of DNA with a certain function Mihai Cartoaje schreef Those are loci. + + + No, a gene is a functional unit. A locus is (as the word says) the place (of the gene) on a chromosome. PvR |
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"P van Rijckevorsel" wrote in message ...
No. You either have a bad book (not sure if they exist) or you read wrong. Try a new book. Solomon, Eldra Pearl, et al. Biology. 3rd edition. Sunders, Forth Worth, 1993. Page 233: "If genes occupy the same locus on each of a pair of chromosomes, they are said to be alleles." They use the expression "not allelic" otherwise. I understand "allele" as "sister", except for genes. |
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"P van Rijckevorsel" wrote in message ...
No. You either have a bad book (not sure if they exist) or you read wrong. Try a new book. Solomon, Eldra Pearl, et al. Biology. 3rd edition. Sunders, Forth Worth, 1993. Page 233: "If genes occupy the same locus on each of a pair of chromosomes, they are said to be alleles." They use the expression "not allelic" otherwise. I understand "allele" as "sister", except for genes. |
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