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Hi sbb!

We have an unknown plant growing with our cactus. Can you id it?

http://bksys.at/bernhard/img/x14/-gallery.html?sbb

Thanks, Bernhard, Elke

Your plant is not a cactus. Its a Euphorbia.

The weed is some sort of Acacia. The bipinnate foliage is the juvenille
form.

http://farrer.riv.csu.edu.au/ASGAP/acacia.html


"Bernhard Kuemel" wrote in message
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Hi sbb!

We have an unknown plant growing with our cactus. Can you id it?

http://bksys.at/bernhard/img/x14/-gallery.html?sbb

Thanks, Bernhard, Elke

In article , Bernhard Kuemel wrote:
We have an unknown plant growing with our cactus. Can you id it?

Looks like a Mimosa (mimosa pudica). Do the leaves curl up when you touch
them?

Roger

Roger Whitehead wrote:
In article , Bernhard Kuemel wrote:

We have an unknown plant growing with our cactus. Can you id it?

Looks like a Mimosa (mimosa pudica). Do the leaves curl up when you touch
them?

Nope.

Bernhard

You lack imagination, Roger.

Its already too big to be Mimosa pudica and the bipinnate foliage is too
large.

Like I already said, the weed is some sort of Acacia. The bipinnate foliage
is the juvenille form.

http://farrer.riv.csu.edu.au/ASGAP/acacia.html

Also the other plant is not a cactus. Its a Euphorbia.



"Roger Whitehead" wrote in message
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In article , Bernhard Kuemel wrote:
We have an unknown plant growing with our cactus. Can you id it?

Looks like a Mimosa (mimosa pudica). Do the leaves curl up when you touch
them?

Roger

Can't help, then.

Roger

We have an unknown plant growing with our cactus. Can you id it?

It looks like some kind of Acacia. Give it more light to get less stringy
growth. You won't be able to tell the species until it blooms. Look up Acacia
to see if it matches. Does it have any thorns?
Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"When you come to a fork in the road, take it." Yogi Berra

"Cereus-validus." wrote in
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"Roger Whitehead" wrote in message
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In article , Bernhard Kuemel wrote:
We have an unknown plant growing with our cactus. Can you id
it?

Looks like a Mimosa (mimosa pudica). Do the leaves curl up when
you touch them?

Roger




You lack imagination, Roger.

Its already too big to be Mimosa pudica and the bipinnate foliage
is too large.

Like I already said, the weed is some sort of Acacia. The
bipinnate foliage is the juvenille form.

http://farrer.riv.csu.edu.au/ASGAP/acacia.html

Also the other plant is not a cactus. Its a Euphorbia.


Doesn't look like any of the acacias I have seen around here. They
tend to be rather spiny. Of course, there are many Acacias that
aren't.

The poster is in Austria, so I wouldn't expect any of the Australian
Wattles, but if the plant was obtained from a nursery (prolly, it is
grafted), who knows what may have been growing there to drop seeds
into their stock.

To me it looks like Silk Tree, Albizzia julibrissin.

http://www.vialattea.net/esperti/bio/mimosa/

But it may be a Caesalpinia as well.

Sean

It could any one of a number of Acacia or Acacia relatives. The seedling is
a bit etiolated and with atypical juvenile foliage.

He never said where he got his "cactus" which is actually a Euphorbia.

BTW, you can't graft Fabaceae onto Euphorbia.


"Sean Houtman" wrote in message
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"Cereus-validus." wrote in
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"Roger Whitehead" wrote in message
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In article , Bernhard Kuemel wrote:
We have an unknown plant growing with our cactus. Can you id
it?

Looks like a Mimosa (mimosa pudica). Do the leaves curl up when
you touch them?

Roger




You lack imagination, Roger.

Its already too big to be Mimosa pudica and the bipinnate foliage
is too large.

Like I already said, the weed is some sort of Acacia. The
bipinnate foliage is the juvenille form.

http://farrer.riv.csu.edu.au/ASGAP/acacia.html

Also the other plant is not a cactus. Its a Euphorbia.


Doesn't look like any of the acacias I have seen around here. They
tend to be rather spiny. Of course, there are many Acacias that
aren't.

The poster is in Austria, so I wouldn't expect any of the Australian
Wattles, but if the plant was obtained from a nursery (prolly, it is
grafted), who knows what may have been growing there to drop seeds
into their stock.

To me it looks like Silk Tree, Albizzia julibrissin.

http://www.vialattea.net/esperti/bio/mimosa/

But it may be a Caesalpinia as well.

Sean

The weed is some sort of Acacia. The bipinnate foliage is the juvenile form.


Huh? I thought some acacias were always bipinnate. I have a bonsai grove of
sweet acacia, A. farnesiana. Some of the trees are about 5 years old. They have
never been anything but bipinnate.
I looked at some pictures on the Web. Photos of A. farnesiana, and some USDA
drawings of several acacias, all show bipinnate foliage.
Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"When you come to a fork in the road, take it." Yogi Berra

Did you actually use the link and see for yourself or are you just letting
your fingers do the wondering?

Here we go again, just in case you missed it the first time.

http://farrer.riv.csu.edu.au/ASGAP/acacia.html


"Iris Cohen" wrote in message
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The weed is some sort of Acacia. The bipinnate foliage is the juvenile
form.


Huh? I thought some acacias were always bipinnate. I have a bonsai grove
of
sweet acacia, A. farnesiana. Some of the trees are about 5 years old. They
have
never been anything but bipinnate.
I looked at some pictures on the Web. Photos of A. farnesiana, and some
USDA
drawings of several acacias, all show bipinnate foliage.
Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"When you come to a fork in the road, take it." Yogi Berra

Cereus-validus... schreef
Did you actually use the link and see for yourself or are you just letting
your fingers do the wondering?

******
You mean where it says:
"A few species, such as the well-known "Cootamundra wattle" (A.baileyana)
and "Mudgee wattle" (A.spectabilis), retain the compound, fern-like leaves
throughout their lives."

Question: did you read it? Or for that matter know anything about Acacia?
PvR

Oh sure Rinkytink, we all know that YOU are intimately familiar with all the
tree Acacias that are found in that dry veld of the Netherlands.

That is when you are not busy wrestling with lions, tigers and rogue
elephants in your underwear!!!

The point was that the website does mention Acacia species that retain
bipinnate foliage in their adult state.

When do you think you will attain an adult state, if ever?


"P van Rijckevorsel" wrote in message
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Cereus-validus... schreef
Did you actually use the link and see for yourself or are you just
letting
your fingers do the wondering?

******
You mean where it says:
"A few species, such as the well-known "Cootamundra wattle" (A.baileyana)
and "Mudgee wattle" (A.spectabilis), retain the compound, fern-like leaves
throughout their lives."

Question: did you read it? Or for that matter know anything about Acacia?
PvR

ts already too big to be Mimosa pudica and the bipinnate foliage is too
large.

I agree. Sir, where did you get your Euphorbia? That may give us a clue as
which acacia you have.

Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"When you come to a fork in the road, take it." Yogi Berra

Dear Lady Iris!

Iris Cohen wrote:
ts already too big to be Mimosa pudica and the bipinnate foliage is too
large.

I agree. Sir,

Umm, I'm not sure, if I am a Sir :)

where did you get your Euphorbia?

The daughter of my girlfriend brougt it home. I'll ask her. Ok,
it is from a "Holland Blumenmarkt" (a brand name for a plant
supermarket, literally "Holland Flowermarket").

That may give us a clue as which acacia you have.

I'm fine with knowing it's an acacia. But we can explore this
further if you like.

It looks like some kind of Acacia. Give it more light to get less stringy
growth. You won't be able to tell the species until it blooms. Look up Acacia
to see if it matches.

That was nice, suggesting more light rather than calling it a
weed. If we keep the plants together, would the acacia kill the
euphorbia? Since we won't probably move the pot to a brighter
spot, we thought of separating the plants. The acacia roots have
come long out of the inner pot hole and are now in the water in
the outer pot. We'd probably have to break the inner pot and drop
the soil of both plants roots to separate them. Does that sound
risky?

Does it have any thorns?

Actually, yes. There are some at some forks. They are soft yet.
On top of some forks there are nectar drops. One had a honey like
consistency and another one dried out.
On http://bksys.at/bernhard/img/x14/-gallery.html there are closeups.

Thanks everyone for your help.

Bernhard