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In the paper today was a story about fish food contaminated with melamine.
The story was about commercial fish farming, but it got me to wondering
how
much melamine I don't know about is in what I feed my fish.
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Fish and other pets aside, I wonder how much is in our food, the things that
we eat. We're sticking to fresh foods only. No more convenience foods that
contain all types of "additives."
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"Reel McKoi" wrote:

"San Diego Joe" wrote in message
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In the paper today was a story about fish food contaminated with melamine.
The story was about commercial fish farming, but it got me to wondering
how
much melamine I don't know about is in what I feed my fish.
============================
Fish and other pets aside, I wonder how much is in our food, the things that
we eat. We're sticking to fresh foods only. No more convenience foods that
contain all types of "additives."

How about those of us growing up in the 50s & 60s eating those TV
dinners?

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"Reel McKoi" wrote:

"San Diego Joe" wrote in message
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In the paper today was a story about fish food contaminated with
melamine.
The story was about commercial fish farming, but it got me to wondering
how
much melamine I don't know about is in what I feed my fish.
============================
Fish and other pets aside, I wonder how much is in our food, the things
that
we eat. We're sticking to fresh foods only. No more convenience foods
that
contain all types of "additives."

How about those of us growing up in the 50s & 60s eating those TV
dinners?
===============================
My parents never bought them but I heard they were pretty tasteless.
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RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
ISP: Hughes.net
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"Reel McKoi" wrote:

"Kurt" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Reel McKoi" wrote:

"San Diego Joe" wrote in message
...
In the paper today was a story about fish food contaminated with
melamine.
The story was about commercial fish farming, but it got me to wondering
how
much melamine I don't know about is in what I feed my fish.
============================
Fish and other pets aside, I wonder how much is in our food, the things
that
we eat. We're sticking to fresh foods only. No more convenience foods
that
contain all types of "additives."

How about those of us growing up in the 50s & 60s eating those TV
dinners?
===============================
My parents never bought them but I heard they were pretty tasteless.

I loved them, but we were guinea pigs for the emerging processed food
industry.
I shudder to think what was in some of that stuff.

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On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 11:45:40 CST, Kurt wrote:

How about those of us growing up in the 50s & 60s eating those TV
dinners?
===============================
My parents never bought them but I heard they were pretty tasteless.

I loved them, but we were guinea pigs for the emerging processed food
industry. I shudder to think what was in some of that stuff.

Loved them here also, actually miss them. They were probably filled with
real food, after all fake things hadn't become vogue yet.... Like
margarine, non-dairy coffee creamers, saccharine.... Unfortunately the
fried chicken was probably fried in lard, love it. Luckily I was raised on
wild pheasant, duck, trout, perch & cottontail for the most part, a TV
dinner was a treat. ;-) ~ jan
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Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

"~ jan" wrote:

On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 11:45:40 CST, Kurt wrote:

How about those of us growing up in the 50s & 60s eating those TV
dinners?
===============================
My parents never bought them but I heard they were pretty tasteless.

I loved them, but we were guinea pigs for the emerging processed food
industry. I shudder to think what was in some of that stuff.

Loved them here also, actually miss them. They were probably filled with
real food, after all fake things hadn't become vogue yet.... Like
margarine, non-dairy coffee creamers, saccharine.... Unfortunately the
fried chicken was probably fried in lard, love it. Luckily I was raised on
wild pheasant, duck, trout, perch & cottontail for the most part, a TV
dinner was a treat. ;-) ~ jan
------------
Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us


We STILL fry chicken in lard. (well, actually lard, peanut oil and a bit of
butter.)


San Diego Joe
4,000 - 5,000 Gallons.
Koi, Goldfish, and RES named Colombo.

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San Diego Joe wrote:

"~ jan" wrote:

On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 11:45:40 CST, Kurt wrote:

How about those of us growing up in the 50s & 60s eating those TV
dinners?
===============================
My parents never bought them but I heard they were pretty tasteless.

I loved them, but we were guinea pigs for the emerging processed food
industry. I shudder to think what was in some of that stuff.

Loved them here also, actually miss them. They were probably filled with
real food, after all fake things hadn't become vogue yet.... Like
margarine, non-dairy coffee creamers, saccharine.... Unfortunately the
fried chicken was probably fried in lard, love it. Luckily I was raised on
wild pheasant, duck, trout, perch & cottontail for the most part, a TV
dinner was a treat. ;-) ~ jan
------------
Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us


We STILL fry chicken in lard. (well, actually lard, peanut oil and a bit of
butter.)

Boy, that sounds great.

I'd take a few Lipitors in advance.

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"San Diego Joe" wrote in message
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We STILL fry chicken in lard. (well, actually lard, peanut oil and a bit
of
butter.)
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We stopped eating fried food when we learned how bad it is for you. It's
also fattening. We never ate much fried foods so don't really miss them.
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rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
ISP: Hughes.net
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~ jan wrote:

On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 11:45:40 CST, Kurt wrote:

How about those of us growing up in the 50s & 60s eating those TV
dinners?
===============================
My parents never bought them but I heard they were pretty tasteless.

I loved them, but we were guinea pigs for the emerging processed food
industry. I shudder to think what was in some of that stuff.

Loved them here also, actually miss them. They were probably filled with
real food, after all fake things hadn't become vogue yet.... Like
margarine, non-dairy coffee creamers, saccharine.... Unfortunately the
fried chicken was probably fried in lard, love it. Luckily I was raised on
wild pheasant, duck, trout, perch & cottontail for the most part, a TV
dinner was a treat. ;-) ~ jan
------------
Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

I lived for Hungry Man dinners...

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How about those of us growing up in the 50s & 60s eating those TV
dinners?

In the 50's and 60's the TV dinners, or anything else for that matter, was
coming from China - with virtually no enforced regulation, they can ship us
anything, including ingredients in and for our food, let alone our pets
Gale :~)

"G Pearce" wrote:

In the 50's and 60's the TV dinners, or anything else for that matter, was
coming from China - with virtually no enforced regulation, they can ship us
anything, including ingredients in and for our food, let alone our pets

Check your history. Trade with china didn't start until after Nixon
recognized China in 1972 after cold relations since the communist
takeover in 1949.

Perhaps you are thinking of Japan, but I don't know of any food products
that came from Japan in that period. Certainly not TV dinners. TV
Dinners were introduced by Swanson's of Nebraska in 1952. Japanese
cars didn't start coming in quantity until the 70's.

M. Fricker wrote:

"G Pearce" wrote:

In the 50's and 60's the TV dinners, or anything else for that matter,
was
coming from China - with virtually no enforced regulation, they can ship
us anything, including ingredients in and for our food, let alone our
pets

Check your history. Trade with china didn't start until after Nixon
recognized China in 1972 after cold relations since the communist
takeover in 1949.

While I have my doubts that TV dinners were coming from China, there
certainly _was_ trade with China. It's just that prior to Nixon's
recognition of the People's Republic, "China" meant Taiwan.
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moderators.

Derek Broughton wrote:

M. Fricker wrote:

"G Pearce" wrote:

In the 50's and 60's the TV dinners, or anything else for that matter,
was
coming from China - with virtually no enforced regulation, they can ship
us anything, including ingredients in and for our food, let alone our
pets

Check your history. Trade with china didn't start until after Nixon
recognized China in 1972 after cold relations since the communist
takeover in 1949.

While I have my doubts that TV dinners were coming from China, there
certainly _was_ trade with China. It's just that prior to Nixon's
recognition of the People's Republic, "China" meant Taiwan.

Only to Taiwanese. Several billion other people disagreed.

On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 19:06:46 CST, "M. Fricker"
wrote:

Derek Broughton wrote:

M. Fricker wrote:

"G Pearce" wrote:

In the 50's and 60's the TV dinners, or anything else for that matter,
was
coming from China - with virtually no enforced regulation, they can ship
us anything, including ingredients in and for our food, let alone our
pets

Check your history. Trade with china didn't start until after Nixon
recognized China in 1972 after cold relations since the communist
takeover in 1949.

While I have my doubts that TV dinners were coming from China, there
certainly _was_ trade with China. It's just that prior to Nixon's
recognition of the People's Republic, "China" meant Taiwan.

Only to Taiwanese. Several billion other people disagreed.


Yeah, but Taiwan was the _recognized_, as in officially, China for all
of U.S. legal purposes. Tagging of products was a legal purpose.

Frankly, any one with any sense and a map or an atlas disagreed with
the physical reality of Taiwan being China. But the political reality
of the U.S. insisted that mainland China didn't exist. Therefore our
laws could only recognize Taiwan as China. It was only one of the
major reality disconnects of the cold war era.
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Almost entirely harmless. Really.

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M. Fricker wrote:

Derek Broughton wrote:

M. Fricker wrote:

"G Pearce" wrote:

In the 50's and 60's the TV dinners, or anything else for that matter,
was
coming from China - with virtually no enforced regulation, they can
ship us anything, including ingredients in and for our food, let alone
our pets

Check your history. Trade with china didn't start until after Nixon
recognized China in 1972 after cold relations since the communist
takeover in 1949.

While I have my doubts that TV dinners were coming from China, there
certainly _was_ trade with China. It's just that prior to Nixon's
recognition of the People's Republic, "China" meant Taiwan.

Only to Taiwanese. Several billion other people disagreed.

Er, in the first place, there were just over a billion people in the
People's Republic of China at the time.

In the second, Taiwan ("Republic of China") held the seat for China in the
UN. Practically every non-communist country in the world recognized the
Taiwanese government as "China". That didn't change until _after_ Nixon
recognized the PRC government.
--
derek
- Unless otherwise noted, I speak for myself, not rec.ponds.moderated
moderators.