On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 19:06:46 CST, "M. Fricker"
wrote:

Derek Broughton wrote:

M. Fricker wrote:

"G Pearce" wrote:

In the 50's and 60's the TV dinners, or anything else for that matter,
was
coming from China - with virtually no enforced regulation, they can ship
us anything, including ingredients in and for our food, let alone our
pets

Check your history. Trade with china didn't start until after Nixon
recognized China in 1972 after cold relations since the communist
takeover in 1949.

While I have my doubts that TV dinners were coming from China, there
certainly _was_ trade with China. It's just that prior to Nixon's
recognition of the People's Republic, "China" meant Taiwan.

Only to Taiwanese. Several billion other people disagreed.


Yeah, but Taiwan was the _recognized_, as in officially, China for all
of U.S. legal purposes. Tagging of products was a legal purpose.

Frankly, any one with any sense and a map or an atlas disagreed with
the physical reality of Taiwan being China. But the political reality
of the U.S. insisted that mainland China didn't exist. Therefore our
laws could only recognize Taiwan as China. It was only one of the
major reality disconnects of the cold war era.
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Cyli wrote:

Yeah, but Taiwan was the _recognized_, as in officially, China for all
of U.S. legal purposes. Tagging of products was a legal purpose.

There was China and big China.

There were actually four China's during this period, the People's
Republic of China, the Republic of China, Hong Kong, and Macau. We
traded with three of them. Products from these three were tagged with
three different tags.

Population wise:
People's Republic of China: 1.3 billion (97.8%).
Republic of China: 0.023 billion (1.7%)
The former Hong Kong: 0.006 billion (.5%)
The former Macau: 0.0005 billion (.04%)

On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 13:59:55 CST, "M. Fricker"
wrote:

Cyli wrote:

Yeah, but Taiwan was the _recognized_, as in officially, China for all
of U.S. legal purposes. Tagging of products was a legal purpose.

There was China and big China.

There were actually four China's during this period, the People's
Republic of China, the Republic of China, Hong Kong, and Macau. We
traded with three of them. Products from these three were tagged with
three different tags.

Yes. I remember at least two of them.

Population wise:
People's Republic of China: 1.3 billion (97.8%).
Republic of China: 0.023 billion (1.7%)
The former Hong Kong: 0.006 billion (.5%)
The former Macau: 0.0005 billion (.04%)

Stuff from Hong Kong was labeled that way. "Made in Hong Kong", as I
recall it. I never saw anything that I can remember as being from
Macau.
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