Best paint for deck by pond?
 

Phyllis and I painted our deck with a Home Depot Behr deck paint five
or so years ago. The paint was to last 3-5 years. It has,
basically. We will repaint this year. We have found a HD paint with
a 10 year deck guarantee and 25 years on vertical walls. We have used
solid colors as they protect the wood better.

Ten years seems good to us! Has anyone suggestions or comments about
these or other stains?

Jim

Best paint for deck by pond?
 

Come on deck painters!

Jim

Best paint for deck by pond?
 

Phyllis and Jim wrote:
Come on deck painters!

Jim


Haven't a clue but I'm eargerly waiting on you getting an answer as the
new pond will be right up to the deck and I'll have the same problem.

Gill

Best paint for deck by pond?
 

I was not happy with Behr paint from HD. we used deck paint from
Menards and it is going on 8 years not a flake anywhere. Ingrid

On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 22:42:12 CST, Phyllis and Jim
wrote:

Phyllis and I painted our deck with a Home Depot Behr deck paint five
or so years ago. The paint was to last 3-5 years. It has,
basically. We will repaint this year. We have found a HD paint with
a 10 year deck guarantee and 25 years on vertical walls. We have used
solid colors as they protect the wood better.

Ten years seems good to us! Has anyone suggestions or comments about
these or other stains?

Jim

Best paint for deck by pond?
 

Thanks for the feedback. Learning from other people's experience
beats doing all the experiments myself!

Jim

Best paint for deck by pond?
 

Phyllis and Jim wrote:

Come on deck painters!

Not me... I'm a weathered wood guy :-)
--
derek

Best paint for deck by pond?
 

Weathered wood in southern sun and humidity...disaster. Even
'treatment' only stops mildew etc. It does not protect from sun and
degeration. Must be that (very) northern climate....

We had bare wood in Syracuse...

Jim

Best paint for deck by pond?
 

Phyllis and Jim wrote:

Weathered wood in southern sun and humidity...disaster. Even
'treatment' only stops mildew etc. It does not protect from sun and
degeration. Must be that (very) northern climate....

We had bare wood in Syracuse...

Sun ? Who gets sun :-( I did mention that the irises just finished
blooming, didn't I. It's been a miserable summer, so far. At least, it
hasn't been a disastrous one, as it has been for so many others.
--
derek

Best paint for deck by pond?
 

Derek Broughton wrote:
Phyllis and Jim wrote:


Weathered wood in southern sun and humidity...disaster. Even
'treatment' only stops mildew etc. It does not protect from sun and
degeration. Must be that (very) northern climate....

We had bare wood in Syracuse...


Sun ? Who gets sun :-( I did mention that the irises just finished
blooming, didn't I. It's been a miserable summer, so far. At least, it
hasn't been a disastrous one, as it has been for so many others.

Well we don't get sun either....at least not this year - last year we
had a drought.....our deck gets periously slippy if we don't do any
maintenance on it.....had a nice slide across it the other
day....prolonged water and frosts surely can only damage wood and there
has to be a limit to the length of time you can have "weathered wood"
and wood that needs replacing....

JMO

Gill

Best paint for deck by pond?
 

Gill Passman wrote:

Well we don't get sun either....at least not this year - last year we
had a drought.....our deck gets periously slippy if we don't do any
maintenance on it.....had a nice slide across it the other
day....prolonged water and frosts surely can only damage wood and there
has to be a limit to the length of time you can have "weathered wood"
and wood that needs replacing....

Sure, but it's not appreciably different to the time that painted wood will
last. Wood generally does pretty well as long as it's not exposed to water
over the long term. My last deck, which was treated but not painted, was
going fine for 13 years before we moved.
--
derek

Best paint for deck by pond?
 

On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 13:08:38 CST, Derek Broughton
wrote:

Phyllis and Jim wrote:

Come on deck painters!

Not me... I'm a weathered wood guy :-)
--
derek

I was given the understanding that paint isn't a good thing for
pressure treated wood, (That is what they sell for decking here.)
since it will seal moisture in as well as out, causing decay to set
up. I was told a penetrating stain would work much better.

Hal

Best paint for deck by pond?
 

Derek Broughton wrote:
Gill Passman wrote:


Well we don't get sun either....at least not this year - last year we
had a drought.....our deck gets periously slippy if we don't do any
maintenance on it.....had a nice slide across it the other
day....prolonged water and frosts surely can only damage wood and there
has to be a limit to the length of time you can have "weathered wood"
and wood that needs replacing....


Sure, but it's not appreciably different to the time that painted wood will
last. Wood generally does pretty well as long as it's not exposed to water
over the long term. My last deck, which was treated but not painted, was
going fine for 13 years before we moved.

Yeah, "treated" is what we are thinking of for ours. Do you know of a
pond friendly woodstain?

Cheers
Gill

Best paint for deck by pond?
 

I misspoke. Actually, we used a Behr deck stain that is a solid
color. It advertizes all manner of fillers to penetrate into and to
restore the wood. The deck is now 10 yrs old and shows no wear or
deterioration. The stain is only on the top surfaces (hard to paint
under a deck that is 1.5" off the old concrete). We used treated
wood. It seems to be doing very well.

Jim

Best paint for deck by pond?
 

Did you use 5/4 by six deck boards or 2 by six for the top?
Gale :~)

"Phyllis and Jim" wrote in message
ps.com...
I misspoke. Actually, we used a Behr deck stain that is a solid
color. It advertizes all manner of fillers to penetrate into and to
restore the wood. The deck is now 10 yrs old and shows no wear or
deterioration. The stain is only on the top surfaces (hard to paint
under a deck that is 1.5" off the old concrete). We used treated
wood. It seems to be doing very well.

Jim

Best paint for deck by pond?
 

We used 2x6 for the top and 2x8 for the joists, set at 24" intervals.
They are screwed down rather than nailed.

Jim

Best paint for deck by pond?
 

My deck is ~ 12 yrs old and I just replaced some of the top boards and 2 of
the 2X8 joists 5/4 X 6 top boards ( screwed down) I just wondered what the
life span is for pressured treated wood - I didn't think I would have to be
replacing them this soon
Gale :~)
"Phyllis and Jim" wrote in message
ups.com...
We used 2x6 for the top and 2x8 for the joists, set at 24" intervals.
They are screwed down rather than nailed.

Jim

Best paint for deck by pond?
 

I don't know about timber treatment standards in the us but a great deal of
the timber used here in New Zealand for building is pine, treated to
different levels depending on what you are using it for....

Our highest rating is H5, which is for timber in constant contact with the
ground (house piles, veranda posts that are embedded in concrete, or posts
for carports, fence posts etc) which meets the 50 year durability rating for
our building code.

Lower ratings are used for things not in contact with the ground such as
framing, fence palings etc.

Richard

"G Pearce" wrote in message
...
My deck is ~ 12 yrs old and I just replaced some of the top boards and 2
of
the 2X8 joists 5/4 X 6 top boards ( screwed down) I just wondered what the
life span is for pressured treated wood - I didn't think I would have to
be
replacing them this soon
Gale :~)
"Phyllis and Jim" wrote in message
ups.com...
We used 2x6 for the top and 2x8 for the joists, set at 24" intervals.
They are screwed down rather than nailed.

Jim

Best paint for deck by pond?
 

Here in MS, we have a top treatment that will stand in water for about
20 years. Many use it for docks. We did.

Jim

Best paint for deck by pond?
 

"Phyllis and Jim" wrote
Here in MS, we have a top treatment that will stand in water for about
20 years. Many use it for docks. We did.


I'm not sure that I would use it in contact with the pond itself. The copper
and boric acid compounds with which the wood is treated leaches out at high
levels at first and tapering off over time. Probably not the best thing for
a pond.

BTW: Such wood is "termite resistant", but not termite proof. If you're in
Mississippi, you probably know that. So any "guarantees" about such wood
lasting for decades is meaningless since the termites will destroy it long
before that. And here on the Gulf coast, termites are always a problem.


Michael
New Orleans, Louisiana USA
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Best paint for deck by pond?
 

Good points.

Probably not the best thing for
a pond.

We ran it in the acre pond. Little polution for a lot of water.



BTW: Such wood is "termite resistant", but not termite proof.

Yeah. We don't put it into the ground. Even our RR ties are
sometimes hit by the termites. With the dock, we set the ground-
contact posts with cone-up tops that we can see. At least we will
know if termites go after it.

Jim

Best paint for deck by pond?
 

"Phyllis and Jim" wrote in message
ups.com...
BTW: Such wood is "termite resistant", but not termite proof.

Yeah. We don't put it into the ground. Even our RR ties are
sometimes hit by the termites. With the dock, we set the ground-
contact posts with cone-up tops that we can see. At least we will
know if termites go after it.


A good idea. However, if I was concerned about the pond and termites, I
think I'd use concrete underground. Those heavy cardboard tubes filled with
concrete for footings are very good and not too expensive.


Michael
New Orleans, Louisiana USA
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Best paint for deck by pond?
 

We set the deck footings in concrete as well, with cone-shaped tops to
shed water and expose termites. Haven't had any as yet. A decade.

Jim