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Pond plans for New Year
Does anyone have interesting pond plans for next year? Enlarging their
pond. Redoing it? New filters? Better predator protection? Anything? -- RM.... Frugal ponding since 1995. rec.ponder since late 1996. Zone 6. Middle TN USA ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö |
Pond plans for New Year
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"Reel McKoi" wrote: Does anyone have interesting pond plans for next year? Enlarging their pond. Redoing it? New filters? Better predator protection? Anything? Relandscaping mine in January. Bigger pump and filter. -- To reply by email, remove the word "space" |
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On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 11:24:07 CST, "Reel McKoi"
wrote: Does anyone have interesting pond plans for next year? Enlarging their pond. Redoing it? New filters? Better predator protection? Anything? Planning to reconfigure for a a bottom drain, a skimmer, and replumb in April/May. Might add a second waterfall as part of the redesign. Right now the pond is virtually dead as my pump died a few weeks ago and I've not bought a new one. Mike Patterson Please remove the spamtrap to email me. "I always wanted to be somebody...I should have been more specific..." - Lily Tomlin |
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Mike Patterson wrote:
Planning to reconfigure for a a bottom drain, a skimmer, and replumb in April/May. Might add a second waterfall as part of the redesign. Most of you that replied are changing and adding plumbing. For the novice that is now planning to get into the pond construction. What is the WORST decision you made when you built your pond(s)? The BEST? Chip |
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"Chip" wrote in message ... Mike Patterson wrote: Planning to reconfigure for a a bottom drain, a skimmer, and replumb in April/May. Might add a second waterfall as part of the redesign. Most of you that replied are changing and adding plumbing. For the novice that is now planning to get into the pond construction. What is the WORST decision you made when you built your pond(s)? The BEST? ================================== We didn't use a concrete berm at the start so the berm started to collapse after a few years. We finally had to pull the liners and redo the berms on both ponds. No small job. It now has a cement berm with rebar going deep in to the ground and bars in the concrete itself to prevent cracking or moving. -- RM.... Frugal ponding since 1995. rec.ponder since late 1996. Zone 6. Middle TN USA ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö |
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"Kurt" wrote in message ... Relandscaping mine in January. Bigger pump and filter. ================== I started some new landscaping last fall. Next spring there will be more flowers and less plain greenery. -- RM.... Frugal ponding since 1995. rec.ponder since late 1996. Zone 6. Middle TN USA ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö |
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Our tiny patio pond's filter pump died on Christmas Eve.
(five year old Hozelock Cyprio Titan 2000 on 24/7. That's what I call service :-) ) Yesterday I canniblised bits from a hefty waterfall pump and got the filter running again. This will see me through until 3rd January when the place I buy pumps from reopens I thought. Wrong ! This morning about two thirds of the water has gone. The pump was still running, so I think I have stupidly ripped the liner when replacing the pump. So it will prolly be a new pump, new liner, and frostbite for my new year. Peter "Reel McKoi" wrote in message ... Does anyone have interesting pond plans for next year? Enlarging their pond. Redoing it? New filters? Better predator protection? Anything? -- RM.... Frugal ponding since 1995. rec.ponder since late 1996. Zone 6. Middle TN USA ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö |
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"2pods" wrote in message ... Our tiny patio pond's filter pump died on Christmas Eve. (five year old Hozelock Cyprio Titan 2000 on 24/7. That's what I call service :-) ) Yesterday I canniblised bits from a hefty waterfall pump and got the filter running again. This will see me through until 3rd January when the place I buy pumps from reopens I thought. Wrong ! This morning about two thirds of the water has gone. The pump was still running, so I think I have stupidly ripped the liner when replacing the pump. =========================== What a bummer! You may be able to repair the liner if the hole or slit isn't too large. I saw tape somewhere for even larger tears in liners. -- RM.... Frugal ponding since 1995. rec.ponder since late 1996. Zone 6. Middle TN USA ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö |
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On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 20:48:46 CST, Chip wrote:
Most of you that replied are changing and adding plumbing. For the novice that is now planning to get into the pond construction. What is the WORST decision you made when you built your pond(s)? The BEST? Chip If I knew then what I know now my koi pond would have been one big pond with bottom drain(s). Even though it is pretty as is, I would like to have more gallons for my fish. I've had to sell a lot of fish due to them growing. The current koi pond now has a vacuum bottom drain & skimmer added after the fact. I also think I would have saved/spent more money and put in vortex filters. My DIY filter is fine, doesn't require a lot of maintenance, but it would be so nice to just pull a gate valve to drain and hose down, rather than what I currently do. There is a big difference agility-wise between the ages of 41 and 53 so I've found out. At least I won't be doing the demon pond next summer so that will save my back for my own yard work. The lily pond was done after I was a little smarter, why it was put in with a bottom drain and skimmer thru the liner. Even if it took 6 years to finally get the filter connected. ;-) ~ jan ------------ Zone 7a, SE Washington State Ponds: www.jjspond.us |
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On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 10:14:23 CST, "2pods" wrote:
Our tiny patio pond's filter pump died on Christmas Eve. (five year old Hozelock Cyprio Titan 2000 on 24/7. That's what I call service :-) ) Yesterday I canniblised bits from a hefty waterfall pump and got the filter running again. This will see me through until 3rd January when the place I buy pumps from reopens I thought. Wrong ! This morning about two thirds of the water has gone. The pump was still running, so I think I have stupidly ripped the liner when replacing the pump. So it will prolly be a new pump, new liner, and frostbite for my new year. Is this a fountain where the wind could have blown the water out? ~ jan ------------ Zone 7a, SE Washington State Ponds: www.jjspond.us |
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Finishing mine. main digging is done, need to slope bottom for bottom drain,
level perimeter for footings. Pour footings, build block walls 5ft high, install TPR's, skimmer. Dig a hole for a 400 gallon settling chamber, dig filter pit, put liner in hole & fill. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Retired Shop Rat: 14,647 days in a GM plant. Speak softly and carry a loaded .45 Lifetime member; Vast Right Wing Conspiricy Web Site: www.destarr.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - |
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"Reel McKoi" wrote:
Does anyone have interesting pond plans for next year? Enlarging their pond. Redoing it? New filters? Better predator protection? Anything? Yep. I currently limp along with a 5000 Gallon pond. Adding a nearby building. Adding a 400 Sq ft deck by the stream and canyon/cave wall. landscaping to add in 12ft by 15ft planter. May add another pond in the spring. |
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On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 20:48:46 CST, Chip wrote:
Mike Patterson wrote: Planning to reconfigure for a a bottom drain, a skimmer, and replumb in April/May. Might add a second waterfall as part of the redesign. Most of you that replied are changing and adding plumbing. For the novice that is now planning to get into the pond construction. What is the WORST decision you made when you built your pond(s)? The BEST? Chip Worst decision? Not to wait, save up the $$, take the time to do it right and incorporate the bottom drain and skimmer in the first place. I had the design right, but I got impatient. Mike Mike Patterson Please remove the spamtrap to email me. "I always wanted to be somebody...I should have been more specific..." - Lily Tomlin |
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"~ jan" wrote in message
... On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 10:14:23 CST, "2pods" wrote: Our tiny patio pond's filter pump died on Christmas Eve. (five year old Hozelock Cyprio Titan 2000 on 24/7. That's what I call So it will prolly be a new pump, new liner, and frostbite for my new year. Is this a fountain where the wind could have blown the water out? ~ jan ------------ Zone 7a, SE Washington State Ponds: www.jjspond.us No, it was a pressurised filter return (pond is about 8' x 4'), but it seems its either the black ribbed hose cracked, or the filter itself, so I've taken the pump out, refilled and added dechlor. Fish seem happy so far touches wood/ Hopefully this will see them OK until the January pump appears. peter |
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Since that new rubbermade tub cracked, yet another year I'll have to try to
come up with a decent filter system. The pond is overstocked, so I'll have to sell of some of the larger fish to the local pet shop again. I'll, really getting quite tired of having to rebuild a filter every single year, and living in the boondocks makes it hard to find hardware to cobble one up at a reasonable price. I'll try the farmer's supply store, and see if I can find something with a cover, but i also think I want something I can put a drain in teh bottom of, with a line so I can just hose it off from opening the lid, rather then taking the mess apart to clean it every week or so. Since the water visibility has been so bad the last year or so, the pond is becomming more work then it's worth. -- Gareee (Gary Tabar Jr.) |
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"Gareee©" wrote in message ... I'll try the farmer's supply store, and see if I can find something with a cover, but i also think I want something I can put a drain in teh bottom of, with a line so I can just hose it off from opening the lid, rather then taking the mess apart to clean it every week or so. This is what I'm seriously considering. I'm sick to death of cleaning the Tetra barrel type filters 5 or 6 times a month. It's a nasty smelly job. I may just turn the settling tank into a filter since is has a drain and can be hosed out. Only problem is the filter pads would still need to be hosed off. I would also need a second settling-tank-turned-filter for the smaller 800g pond. Also, every spring now we have to drain the ponds to remove all the fry and sludge from the bottom. It takes an entire weekend. And now the area is so flooded with pond quality koi you can't even give them away. Since the water visibility has been so bad the last year or so, the pond is becomming more work then it's worth. That's how we're starting to feel and now we have the GBH problem. In our early 60s, it's getting to be a lot of unwelcome work. A chore instead of a pleasure. -- RM.... Frugal ponding since 1995. rec.ponder since late 1996. Zone 6. Middle TN USA ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö |
Pond plans for New Year
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"Gareee©" wrote: Since that new rubbermade tub cracked, yet another year I'll have to try to come up with a decent filter system. The pond is overstocked, so I'll have to sell of some of the larger fish to the local pet shop again. I'll, really getting quite tired of having to rebuild a filter every single year, and living in the boondocks makes it hard to find hardware to cobble one up at a reasonable price. I'll try the farmer's supply store, and see if I can find something with a cover, but i also think I want something I can put a drain in teh bottom of, with a line so I can just hose it off from opening the lid, rather then taking the mess apart to clean it every week or so. Since the water visibility has been so bad the last year or so, the pond is becomming more work then it's worth. How about making a raised earthen container and just using pond liner? This is how I'm doing my next filter. -- To reply by email, remove the word "space" |
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"Kurt" wrote in message
How about making a raised earthen container and just using pond liner? This is how I'm doing my next filter. How do you have it planned? I suppose you could use the outflow as a small waterfall, and maybe cover it with a big piece of plywood? I don't mind doing the work, if it saves work down the road, but for the last 3 years it seems I'm building endless filters that either aren't big enough, or fail after a month or so. -- Gareee (Gary Tabar Jr.) |
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On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 18:06:31 CST, Kurt
wrote: How about making a raised earthen container and just using pond liner? This is how I'm doing my next filter. Sounds interesting! I have an above ground retaining wall stone with liner I plan to use for plant filter, or veggie-filter, but I don't have as good an experience as others with plants for filtering. The bottom of such tanks always collect mulm. What filtering devices/media do you plan to use in such a tank? -- Hal Middle Georgia, Zone 8 http://tinyurl.com/2fxzcb |
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Hal wrote: On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 18:06:31 CST, Kurt wrote: How about making a raised earthen container and just using pond liner? This is how I'm doing my next filter. Sounds interesting! I have an above ground retaining wall stone with liner I plan to use for plant filter, or veggie-filter, but I don't have as good an experience as others with plants for filtering. The bottom of such tanks always collect mulm. What filtering devices/media do you plan to use in such a tank? I was thinking about it being one big veggie filter with lots of Hyacinth, etc. Water enters and leaves on top. My last one wasn't covered - just looked like a small pond. -- To reply by email, remove the word "space" |
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well... now posts are being deleted right away. 4/5 were the big red X and I couldnt
download the bodies. Ingrid |
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I started the construction of my pond so late in the season, the local nursery didn't have a good selection of plants, so In the spring, I'll be landscaping my pond and finishing it. I'll also finish my water fall (cascade). |
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On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 20:34:30 CST, Kurt
wrote: I was thinking about it being one big veggie filter with lots of Hyacinth, etc. Water enters and leaves on top. My last one wasn't covered - just looked like a small pond. Sounds good! I hope you have the results you want. I like plants and keep trying to have a plant pond with clear water and no debris on the bottom, but so far it is a plan that includes a shop vac once in a while. Some people get by with once a year cleaning, I'm still looking for that. -- Hal Middle Georgia, Zone 8 http://tinyurl.com/2fxzcb |
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Reel McKoi wrote:
Does anyone have interesting pond plans for next year? Enlarging their pond. Redoing it? New filters? Better predator protection? Anything? I can't do any serious pond construction until we get our water well in, but I do plan on getting the top soil completely removed this next year and the low side built up so that the over flow goes the direction I want it. -- + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Chris Barnes AOL IM: CNBarnes Yahoo IM: chrisnbarnes "Usenet really is all about standing around and hitting the ground with clubs, on a spot where many years earlier a dead horse lay." |
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Kurt wrote:
I was thinking about it being one big veggie filter with lots of Hyacinth, etc. Water enters and leaves on top. My last one wasn't covered - just looked like a small pond. I have seen several plans for a veggie filter that have the dirty water enter from the bottom through a distributed piping system and usually through a gravel bed and then exit the top. Is this overkill or even better filtering? Chip |
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Chip wrote:
Kurt wrote: I was thinking about it being one big veggie filter with lots of Hyacinth, etc. Water enters and leaves on top. My last one wasn't covered - just looked like a small pond. I have seen several plans for a veggie filter that have the dirty water enter from the bottom through a distributed piping system and usually through a gravel bed and then exit the top. Is this overkill or even better filtering? I have always liked upflow filters. It reduces compaction of the gravel bed. I wouldn't usually put gravel in a veggie filter though. If you have enough vegetation, then the gravel just gets completely wrapped up in the roots, making removing excess plants more difficult (getting a spade into it without piercing the liner is practically impossible). -- derek |
A few new directions here, besides the usual new ponds being built to grow out tropical waterlilies to full size and make small special purpose ponds... for seedling plants, lotus, shaded, quarantine and disinfection etc...
Last years drought reminds me to go back to some of the smaller clay ponds and line them. It takes too much water to keep those functioning through a drought :::doh::: Regards, andy http://www.members.aol.com/abdavisnc/swglist.html http://community.webshots.com/user/adavisus http://s93.photobucket.com/albums/l42/adavisus/ |
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Hey Andy,
Glad to *see* you! k :-) |
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Where have I been? doh, probably paddling on a pond Nice to see some pleasant pond oriented activity, indeedy Regards, andy http://www.members.aol.com/abdavisnc/swglist.html http://s93.photobucket.com/albums/l42/adavisus/ |
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exactly. I agree. not only that, but the veggie roots will grow thick enough to
filter everything anyway. Ingrid On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 12:35:07 CST, Derek Broughton wrote: I wouldn't usually put gravel in a veggie filter though. If you have enough vegetation, then the gravel just gets completely wrapped up in the roots, making removing excess plants more difficult (getting a spade into it without piercing the liner is practically impossible). |
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