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Buying fish on line
Has anyone ever bought Fish on line? I asked someone this one time and I
was told "would you buy a cat in a sack? Then why would you buy fish on line?" (I realized this is comparing apples to oranges but I understood his point.) IF you did buy on line, can you tell me about it and where you purchased from? Thanks |
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Peter Pan wrote:
Has anyone ever bought Fish on line? I asked someone this one time and I was told "would you buy a cat in a sack? Then why would you buy fish on line?" (I realized this is comparing apples to oranges but I understood his point.) IF you did buy on line, can you tell me about it and where you purchased from? Thanks On the TFA mailing list there is a relatively new business by an old hand at fish who breeds WONDERFUL angelfish who ships. http://angelfishgardens.com/ Chip |
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"Peter Pan" wrote in message ... Has anyone ever bought Fish on line? I asked someone this one time and I was told "would you buy a cat in a sack? Then why would you buy fish on line?" (I realized this is comparing apples to oranges but I understood his point.) IF you did buy on line, can you tell me about it and where you purchased from? Thanks ====================== To me that's like buying a pig-in-a-poke. I want to SEE the fish before I buy it, especially koi or Shubunkins to make sure the color is deep and true, the body shape is pleasing, the finnage is perfect etc. -- RM.... Frugal ponding since 1995. rec.ponder since late 1996. Zone 6. Middle TN USA ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö |
Buying fish on line
Peter Pan wrote:
Has anyone ever bought Fish on line? I asked someone this one time and I was told "would you buy a cat in a sack? Then why would you buy fish on line?" (I realized this is comparing apples to oranges but I understood his point.) IF you did buy on line, can you tell me about it and where you purchased from? Thanks Can you mix one type of koi with another? |
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"Peter Pan" wrote in message . .. Peter Pan wrote: Has anyone ever bought Fish on line? I asked someone this one time and I was told "would you buy a cat in a sack? Then why would you buy fish on line?" (I realized this is comparing apples to oranges but I understood his point.) IF you did buy on line, can you tell me about it and where you purchased from? Thanks Can you mix one type of koi with another? ==================================== Not if you want to breed a certain type. They also get along with goldfish and rosy reds. -- RM.... Frugal ponding since 1995. rec.ponder since late 1996. Zone 6. Middle TN USA ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö |
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"Reel McKoi" wrote: "Peter Pan" wrote in message ... Has anyone ever bought Fish on line? I asked someone this one time and I was told "would you buy a cat in a sack? Then why would you buy fish on line?" (I realized this is comparing apples to oranges but I understood his point.) IF you did buy on line, can you tell me about it and where you purchased from? Thanks ====================== To me that's like buying a pig-in-a-poke. I want to SEE the fish before I buy it, especially koi or Shubunkins to make sure the color is deep and true, the body shape is pleasing, the finnage is perfect etc. Here is a link to a large koi farm out here in California. http://koifarm.com -- To reply by email, remove the word "space" |
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I once purchased a butterfly koi from Lilypons 11-12 years ago. That's when
shipping wasn't too outrageous. I got this guy at the smallest size they sold at the time. I still have that fish today, and it is one of the nicest healthiest (knock on wood) fish in the pond. It has the most gorgeous fins of any butterfly I've yet to see, and I didn't even get to see a picture of it. ~ jan ------------ Zone 7a, SE Washington State Ponds: www.jjspond.us |
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"Kurt" wrote in message ... In article , "Reel McKoi" wrote: To me that's like buying a pig-in-a-poke. I want to SEE the fish before I buy it, especially koi or Shubunkins to make sure the color is deep and true, the body shape is pleasing, the finnage is perfect etc. Here is a link to a large koi farm out here in California. http://koifarm.com ============================= That's a bit far for me to travel. :-) -- RM.... Frugal ponding since 1995. rec.ponder since late 1996. Zone 6. Middle TN USA ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö |
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Here is a link to a large koi farm out here in California. http://koifarm.com ============================= That's a bit far for me to travel. :-) I thought you were interesting in selling not buying now days? ~ jan ------------ Zone 7a, SE Washington State Ponds: www.jjspond.us |
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"~ jan" wrote in message ... Here is a link to a large koi farm out here in California. http://koifarm.com ============================= That's a bit far for me to travel. :-) I thought you were interesting in selling not buying now days? ~ jan ------------ Zone 7a, SE Washington State Ponds: www.jjspond.us =============================== I'm not interested in buying. I just unloaded over 200 young koi. I just opined that buying fish sight-unseen is something I wouldn't do. -- RM.... Frugal ponding since 1995. rec.ponder since late 1996. Zone 6. Middle TN USA ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö |
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sure. not good to mix GF with koi. But if you got the space get a few Orfes....
they provide birth control. Ingrid On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 23:42:49 EDT, Peter Pan wrote: Can you mix one type of koi with another? |
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Yes, there are a few places they can even show you a picture (more expensive ones).
Brett's koi is one place. http://www.brettsfishfarm.com/ On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 16:35:43 EDT, Peter Pan wrote: Has anyone ever bought Fish on line? I asked someone this one time and I was told "would you buy a cat in a sack? Then why would you buy fish on line?" (I realized this is comparing apples to oranges but I understood his point.) IF you did buy on line, can you tell me about it and where you purchased from? Thanks |
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On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:12:28 EDT, Chip wrote:
wrote: sure. not good to mix GF with koi. Can you explain in more detail,why? I have seen lots of ponds with koi and GF. They are not breeding for sale, just for the pleasure of seeing different types of fish. Chip In certain incidences it can be disastrous. GF are always sexually on, whereas koi are twice a year at most. GF males aren't always understanding and will still harass the female koi even when she has no eggs to give. IME, it is comet GF, not the fancier varieties that are the biggest problem. ~ jan ------------ Zone 7a, SE Washington State Ponds: www.jjspond.us |
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"~ jan" wrote in message ... In certain incidences it can be disastrous. GF are always sexually on, whereas koi are twice a year at most. GF males aren't always understanding and will still harass the female koi even when she has no eggs to give. IME, it is comet GF, not the fancier varieties that are the biggest problem. ~ jan ========================= I've not had this experience Jan. My male goldfish ignored the female koi. Once the water warms in early summer the male GF are no longer interested in the females. The GF bred in spring mainly whereas the koi spaw several times over the spring and summer. Maybe the location makes a difference. -- RM.... Frugal ponding since 1995. rec.ponder since late 1996. Zone 6. Middle TN USA ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö |
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they breed and produce crap hybrids. in addition, it complicates treatment of
disease in the pond. Ingrid On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:12:28 EDT, Chip wrote: wrote: sure. not good to mix GF with koi. Can you explain in more detail,why? I have seen lots of ponds with koi and GF. They are not breeding for sale, just for the pleasure of seeing different types of fish. Chip |
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"Reel McKoi" wrote: "Kurt" wrote in message ... In article , "Reel McKoi" wrote: To me that's like buying a pig-in-a-poke. I want to SEE the fish before I buy it, especially koi or Shubunkins to make sure the color is deep and true, the body shape is pleasing, the finnage is perfect etc. Here is a link to a large koi farm out here in California. http://koifarm.com ============================= That's a bit far for me to travel. :-) The point was that they ship, and do it well. -- To reply by email, remove the word "space" |
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~ jan wrote: On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:12:28 EDT, Chip wrote: wrote: sure. not good to mix GF with koi. Can you explain in more detail,why? I have seen lots of ponds with koi and GF. They are not breeding for sale, just for the pleasure of seeing different types of fish. Chip In certain incidences it can be disastrous. GF are always sexually on, whereas koi are twice a year at most. GF males aren't always understanding and will still harass the female koi even when she has no eggs to give. IME, it is comet GF, not the fancier varieties that are the biggest problem. ~ jan My GF are usually only this time of y.ear. No Viagra in my pond rest of year -- To reply by email, remove the word "space" |
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On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 22:29:59 EDT, Kurt wrote:
My GF are usually only this time of y.ear. No Viagra in my pond rest of year I could be mistaken. After the comets killed a female koi, that wasn't even old enough to breed, I removed them all. I did have a large shubunkin in the pond for years and never had trouble with it. Carol, I'm surprised you mix your koi & GF since you were selling the babies as koi. Perhaps I misunderstand, since that is what we were talking about? I guess I'll be learning more now that I have a designated GF only pond, as I was under the impression GF would breed all season long. ~ jan ------------ Zone 7a, SE Washington State Ponds: www.jjspond.us |
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"~ jan" wrote in message ... Carol, I'm surprised you mix your koi & GF since you were selling the babies as koi. I haven't had GF with the koi in several years. The GF I have are all behind the house in 720g above ground tanks. I never sold baby GF or hybrids as koi fry. It's easy to tell the difference between koi and GF fry, even at an early age. Perhaps I misunderstand, since that is what we were talking about? I don't recall a thread about selling baby GF as being koi?!?! I do see a thread about GF harassing female koi and added that I did not have that problem in my ponds. When my GF were in the ponds with the koi they both spawned with their own kind. I saw no cross-breeding. I guess I'll be learning more now that I have a designated GF only pond, as I was under the impression GF would breed all season long. ~ jan Mine didn't. Once the water became warm all GF breeding ceased. The koi bred on into the summer. -- RM.... Frugal ponding since 1995. rec.ponder since late 1996. Zone 6. Middle TN USA ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö |
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wrote in message . com... they breed and produce crap hybrids. in addition, it complicates treatment of disease in the pond. Ingrid ===================== That was not my experience. The didn't even spawn at the same time. -- RM.... Frugal ponding since 1995. rec.ponder since late 1996. Zone 6. Middle TN USA ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö |
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On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 09:32:14 EDT, "Reel McKoi"
wrote: I don't recall a thread about selling baby GF as being koi?!?! I do see a thread about GF harassing female koi and added that I did not have that problem in my ponds. Well then, wouldn't you say you don't have a problem because you don't have GF & koi together? That's what where this thread kind of headed, with a question about mixing fish. Nothing about selling hybrids. When my GF were in the ponds with the koi they both spawned with their own kind. I saw no cross-breeding. Interesting and very unusual, imho. Mine didn't. Once the water became warm all GF breeding ceased. The koi bred on into the summer. Interesting, and again very unusual from both my experience, others I've talked with and stuff I've read. ~ jan ------------ Zone 7a, SE Washington State Ponds: www.jjspond.us |
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My brief experience with GF was that they would breed with any female put
in the pond that was gravid... or even appeared to be gravid (full of eggs). I'll be watching my GF pond, but I suspected once the females are spawned that will be that, but if I were to put a new fish in, the males would chase it if it appeared to be full of eggs. I have noticed lots of nudging thru the summer with them, and when they've been brought in to the tanks in the winter. My koi, otoh, are spring only, if that. JME, YMMV, ~ jan ------------ Zone 7a, SE Washington State Ponds: www.jjspond.us |
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"~ jan" wrote in message ... On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 09:32:14 EDT, "Reel McKoi" wrote: I don't recall a thread about selling baby GF as being koi?!?! I do see a thread about GF harassing female koi and added that I did not have that problem in my ponds. Well then, wouldn't you say you don't have a problem because you don't have GF & koi together? At one time they were together as you must surely remember. That's what where this thread kind of headed, with a question about mixing fish. Nothing about selling hybrids. I see. When my GF were in the ponds with the koi they both spawned with their own kind. I saw no cross-breeding. Interesting and very unusual, imho. Perhaps but that's what we observed. Mine didn't. Once the water became warm all GF breeding ceased. The koi bred on into the summer. Interesting, and again very unusual from both my experience, others I've talked with and stuff I've read. ~ jan Yes, interesting indeed. Should I assume they all have my pond conditions and live in my geographical area? -- RM.... Frugal ponding since 1995. rec.ponder since late 1996. Zone 6. Middle TN USA ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö |
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